"You Should Be Ashamed... NOT!"

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from the heart of the Texas Hill Country.

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And we are excited to be with you today.

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It is Sunday afternoon.

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We've decided to move our recording times to Sunday,

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but we are living up in a down world.

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Hello Annette.

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Hello.

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How are you doing today?

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It's been a great weekend.

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It has been phenomenal.

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We've got to talk about our weekend.

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And we've got a topic that we're going to talk about today

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that we're hoping and believing

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that it's going to really help some people today

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because this is something that everybody I know

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labors under this to a degree.

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And what's the topic?

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Shame.

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Shame. Shame on you.

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Did you ever get that when you were a kid?

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Shame on you.

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Do you ever get it as an adult?

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Occasionally.

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Probably.

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Probably.

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We all have for sure.

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But we also want to let you know that Chevy is with us

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and he is in true form.

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He has crashed out on Dame Annette's lap.

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And he got so this is how it's funny.

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So this is episode 15.

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And since we started doing this,

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the first couple of times he'd come in,

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he'd want to get in our laps.

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And we were like, no, no.

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And then we gave in, which we always do to Chevy.

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And now he, when he sees me start setting up

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for the podcast, he gets super excited.

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He knows what's about to happen.

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He literally, so I have to move some chairs around.

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I give you my office chair.

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Then I go get your little tiny chair.

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Because I need a bigger chair for Chevy.

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Right.

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That's exactly right.

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And so anytime I start moving stuff

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and he sees that I'm like moving the microphones,

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it's like, he's just like super excited.

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So he's probably the most excited person in the world

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about this podcast right now.

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So he's our number one fan.

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And because he loves getting up in Annette's lap

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and then crashing out.

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He's just completely.

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Except I felt bad.

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My watch just got caught on his tail

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and pulled out a ton of hair.

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Caught by hair.

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I feel so bad.

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But you know what?

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He didn't even make a move.

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I'm like, really?

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If it were me, I would be.

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Screaming.

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Helping, yes.

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He's unfazed.

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Nothing bothers this dog.

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This is the coolest dog.

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Funny.

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He's Mr. Chill.

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So we've had a huge week.

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I mean, we came off of Easter in last week's podcast,

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which was number 14.

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We talked about Easter.

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We had a huge Easter weekend.

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And wow, we did three services.

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Had a ton of people.

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It was packed.

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But we were just buzzing

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because we were so thankful for what God's up to.

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Now, since then, we had a night of worship.

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So tell them what a night of worship is.

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I love night of worship.

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Night of worship is where we come together.

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We invite anybody who wants to come from the area.

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They don't have to be attenders of our church or members.

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And we just have a night of worship.

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It's about an hour and a half straight worship.

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And in the middle of that time, we have baptisms.

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And we had 14.

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We had planned on 10.

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And we ended up with 14.

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And it was beautiful.

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It was mainly adults, only a couple of children.

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And it was shocking.

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It was beautiful.

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And for those of you listening who maybe this is newer

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to you because I have noticed some of the comments,

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particularly on Fountain.

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That's where we get a lot of feedback.

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Have been, hey, thanks for doing the podcast.

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It's helping me return to my faith,

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which is uber encouraging for us.

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Why we do this really?

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So we want to see people come home.

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We want to bring life.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And kind of erase some of the darkness of religion

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and rules and laws.

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I don't like the word religion at all.

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I know.

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It's a bad connotation.

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It conjures up bad things.

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Just like if we were to say government.

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Ooh, wait.

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Let's not go there.

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I got the heebies when I said that.

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Yeah, I need to clear the room.

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So same thing with religion.

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And people have had bad experiences in churches

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because churches are made up of people.

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And we're all imperfect people.

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A running joke of ministers is that being a pastor

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would be amazing.

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If it weren't for people.

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I don't agree with that though.

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No, because we love people.

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I told my church this morning,

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we pastor a church called Bridge Church

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in Fredericksburg, Texas.

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And it's just a thriving, it's alive.

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It's just so alive with God's presence and spirit

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and love.

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And I told the church I'd give you a group hug

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if I could right now.

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You know you're opening up your arms

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while you're talking.

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Like people can see you and they can't see you.

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Oh, you mean right now?

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Yes.

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Well, I have to act out or I can't talk.

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When you're a communicator,

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you communicate with your body and your mouth.

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Well, that's true.

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So even when I'm talking on a podcast.

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So you're doing it for me.

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Your hands are moving also quite dramatically.

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Not like you.

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You actually did a hug.

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It's like give three feet, three feet space

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or somebody's gonna get hurt.

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But yeah, I put my arms out.

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I would give everybody a hug.

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We love what we get to do.

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But the culture we've tried to create

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and we feel like God has led us down this path

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is a culture of grace.

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It's a culture of mercy, a culture of love and life.

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And I'm just a, I'm a no stinking thinking kind of guy.

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In fact, there's a reason why the title of this podcast

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is living up in a down world, right?

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Right.

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It's because that's our attitude

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that no matter what's happening out in the world today,

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no matter how dark things get,

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it seems like the last three, four years have been brutal.

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Really?

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Brutal on people.

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And things have gone just really awry.

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And gosh, wake up one day and go, how do we get here?

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However, you don't have to live completely

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under the weight and gravity of a crazy,

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of a world gone mad, right?

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So anyway, so that's what our church is about.

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And also back to night of worship.

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So we're talking about that.

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And what we love about that,

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and what I wanted to encourage those of you listening,

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maybe you have never stepped over the line

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and become a person of faith.

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Maybe Christianity is new to you.

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Maybe it's something that you were involved in

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when you were younger.

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you're thinking I got away, I got hurt,

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or I got damaged in a church, or I just drifted.

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That's most people.

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And maybe you've thought about coming back.

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Maybe you've thought about giving church,

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the bride of Christ, and Christianity,

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about Jesus, the groom, a chance.

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And so we would invite you to come home in a sense.

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We pray a lot for people who have,

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for whatever reason, gotten away from things

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and need to come home.

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We pray for them.

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And we all have our seasons and our times, right?

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So night of worship is this.

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Oh my goodness.

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Some friends of ours just booked a trip to Venice.

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After John Lynch talked about Venice today.

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We'll talk about that story in a little bit.

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I know, I'm sorry, I had to show you that text.

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So a friend of ours, actually our across the street neighbor,

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because she listened to John,

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she watched him on the online.

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We had a speaker today.

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Yeah, we had a special feature.

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We'll talk about John in a minute.

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But he was talking about Venice,

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and she booked a trip to Venice.

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She just did it because of him talking about

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how beautiful it is.

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Wow.

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Wow, okay.

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Well, I mean, we're riding the verge of booking a cruise.

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Well, we are going on a cruise in January.

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With Mercy Me and John Lynch and Stacey and all these people.

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We'll talk a little bit.

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So, night of worship.

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I keep getting off.

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I know, sorry.

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It was my fault.

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It's okay.

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I saw you checking your phone.

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Night of worship is exactly what that is.

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We celebrate, we do baptisms.

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Baptisms are an external sign.

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It's people who have said yes to Jesus Christ.

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I want to be a Christian, and I want to accept Him as my Savior, make Him the Lord of my

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life.

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I want to follow Him, learn about Him, and I want to become part of the body of Christ.

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I want to get involved and connected.

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And so that's what baptism is, an outward expression of an inward reality.

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So our heart gets changed, and then we get to say it out loud.

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What I love is one of the women that came forward to get baptized.

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It was not planned.

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All of her family was there.

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She's an attender.

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She's a member of our church, but she's elderly.

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She has a lot of health issues.

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She's wearing oxygen constantly, and she runs up, well, walks fast up to the baptism and

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said, I want to get baptized.

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She's pulling off all of her oxygen.

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Her kids, which are in their forties, I would say.

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They're adults.

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I mean, yeah.

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I mean, they're just like, what is going on?

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And they run up, they're running up, and they're crying going, what?

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And she said, it's time.

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I got baptized as a child, but it didn't mean what it means to me now.

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You and I lost it.

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You were baptizing her.

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Oh, I was crying.

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I couldn't even talk.

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You were crying your eyes out.

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You were just like, I can't do this.

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And yet Adam Curry gets baptized.

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And it was so, it was such a different response and reaction from you.

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And it was because of the happiness of...

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It was a joy, joyful party celebration.

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Yes, culminated into that moment.

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We talk about Adam's baptism in Menteca.

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That's super cool.

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So Sherri is who we're talking about.

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Oh my goodness.

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So about what?

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Two years ago, we visited in our three, four years ago.

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I think it was before that.

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Before COVID.

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Yeah.

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COVID has become kind of a marker.

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So it was before COVID and we got a call that Sherri was dying.

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I mean, literally in the hospital dying, her heart was failing.

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I had to drive from Fredericksburg to Austin and go to the cardiac center.

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And oh my gosh, she looked...

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I thought this is it.

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Literally, we were like, this is it.

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She's not going to make it.

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She won't make it through the night.

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And the doctors were saying the same kinds of things.

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And we've watched her bounce back and then she'll get sick again.

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And she, I mean, literally she's like, she's a walking miracle.

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I was going to say the Energizer bunny is what comes to my mind.

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I'm thinking a cat with mom lives kind of thing.

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It's unbelievable because I remember seeing her in that bed and she just kept trying to

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relay to us that they weren't taking care of her in that hospital.

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Remember that?

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Oh, that's so heartbreaking.

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It's horrible.

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But to see her come and get baptized like that, it was just...

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I don't think there was a dry eye.

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Even if you didn't know her, you would be crying watching that.

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Because I'm trying to talk to her and say, Sherri, you're such a walking...

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I'm looking at her right in the eyes and I've got a microphone in my hand and she's in the

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baptistry.

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So our baptistry is like a big hot tub kind of where I don't actually get in the water.

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I'm standing beside it and then we lower them down and back up.

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And I'm standing there trying to say, I'm so proud of you.

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This is a bit...

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And I just lose it.

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You just can't.

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You just start bawling.

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I had to stop.

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I said, I'm sorry.

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Every female in that room started crying because you were crying.

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Because a dude was crying.

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Yes.

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Well, I mean, it's just real because I saw her at the death store and literally didn't

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think she would make it.

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And here she is.

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And she's pulling her oxygen thing off and all the respiratory therapists in our church

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are losing their minds.

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They are.

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One of them actually came to me and was like, oh my gosh.

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I was like, you know what?

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It's good.

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It's all good.

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And it is.

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It was a beautiful thing.

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So we baptized children.

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We had adults.

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We had a family.

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We had a Spanish speaking mother, Spanish only.

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And one of our staff is...two of our staff are very fluent in Spanish and he baptized

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her and that was beautiful to see Brian baptize her and her family.

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And then we had a 77 year old that wanted to be baptized.

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All I was thinking about was liability, which because I'm over risk management, getting

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up in that baptism.

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I thought you were so funny.

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But then I was worried about how fragile he is and what if he fell and it hurt himself.

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And he was a trooper.

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Oh my gosh, he was.

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So to describe our baptistry, it's about four and a half feet tall and you got to get on

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these steps to get up into it and step over the edge.

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It's daunting.

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Yeah, it really is.

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For children, it's great.

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It might be daunting for me at this point, but it is very tricky.

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And so we made sure we had like three men on each side holding their hands.

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So we're real careful with all that.

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And I offered...his name is Cameron.

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I've never met anyone in their 70s named Cameron.

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And he's a guy.

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He's a dude.

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And precious man, he just lost his wife recently to a four year battle with cancer.

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What?

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A few weeks ago.

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Yeah, just a few weeks ago.

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And he had already planned and she was going to get baptized before she passed.

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So they were already on this journey.

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And it was beautiful when he told me when he wanted to be baptized.

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I said, well, we can go to a river because there's lots of rivers around here.

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Make it easier on him just to walk down.

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There's a wellness center here in Fredericksburg.

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It has a ramp that goes down the pool.

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They've let us use that for baptisms before.

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It's just really kind.

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Yay, wellness center.

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But he said, no, I want to go in there.

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And I'm like, are you sure?

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And he did.

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And it was beautiful.

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Well, I think my favorite part of the baptism experience was watching all the pastors come

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alongside each one and help baptize with you.

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This was spontaneous.

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It was very spontaneous.

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We had never seen this.

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We've been here seven and a half years.

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I've never seen a pastor come alongside you, much less.

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I think there were three and another staff member and they were all helping.

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It was so odd.

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I was just like, I was in tears.

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It was absolutely beautiful because we are, our staff is very close.

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We're very much a family.

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We're very much friends.

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We love doing what we do.

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We all know we're living in a miracle and we know it and we're grateful.

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And to see all of them walk over to the baptistry spontaneously and before I baptized the first

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person, they stuck their hands in the water like they were going to help.

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And I was like, how cool is this?

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I didn't say a word.

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I just went with it unscripted and unplanned.

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And when I lowered that person, they all put their hands on him and laid him down.

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It was the most beautiful thing I've ever experienced in terms of baptism.

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And then Adam.

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Oh my goodness.

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We talked about Adam Curry because Adam has been building up this baptism.

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He...

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Well, I remember, let me just say this.

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When Tina got baptized, I think it was four months ago.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Back in October, November.

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Yes, and he was there and I think something was said, you know, you're next or you're

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going to...

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He's like, well, let me think about it, you know?

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And then I think he just began to really seriously think about it and his faith began to grow

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until finally he said, I'm ready.

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And so we gave him some dates and we said, because whatever date you want, we'll open

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it up to the family, basically, anybody who wants to get baptized.

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And so he gave us enough time out there that we were able to plan it.

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And boy...

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Oh, he was stoked.

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So you got to understand...

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He even knew what he was going to... down to what he was going to wear in that baptism.

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So for those of you listening to this podcast, the reason you're actually listening to any

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podcast is because he invented podcasting about 17, 18 years ago is when it kind of

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became a brainchild, him and another guy together.

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And so he's considered the pod father.

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He is a great podcast with John DeVorek called No Agenda, we highly recommend.

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And then also our favorite, and we love all of them, but our favorite really is with Adam

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and Tina, his wife.

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It's called Curry and the Keeper, highly recommend.

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We talk about it every week.

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I know, and I'm going to keep talking about it.

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And they talk about ours as well.

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That's true.

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That's true.

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That's value for value, right?

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We love these guys.

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And we're so proud of them because we've got a 50 yard line seat to their journey of faith

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and they made up their mind to walk together.

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So it culminates in Adam getting baptized.

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He's super excited and he's losing his mind over it.

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He's talking about it on the podcast, but he wants LED lights in the baptistry, wants

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haze in the air.

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He wants me to play a solo.

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I mean, it's hilarious.

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Which we did not do any of that because it's so Baptist.

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It didn't matter.

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So I'm looking up the Twitter, the tweet that I posted about Adam.

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So I asked Adam, because I never presume on a friend and I just say, Hey, you mind if

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I post a picture of your baptism?

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He's like, please do get it out there.

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And so I posted this picture and I wrote this year, my friend, Adam Curry has been growing

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in his faith journey.

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And last night it culminated in his profession of faith and subsequent baptism.

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Tina was baptized recently and they're on the journey together and I wrote those faces,

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pure joy, because it's a picture of Adam, this massive smile.

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And there are pastors all around and smile.

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It was just a party, party in the baptistry with Adam.

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Go figure.

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I'm looking right now just to see how many, how many views that's had.

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I'm looking, oh, over 45,000 views.

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862 comments, no 862 likes, 72 retweets, 85 comments.

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And that's just from one tweet of people.

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This isn't about me.

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This is about Adam.

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People are so excited that Adam stepped over the line, gave his heart to Jesus.

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Now his buckets are full and overflowing.

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He's leaking out all over the place.

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He's so full of Jesus.

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It's amazing to see what God's done.

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Very cool.

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Very cool.

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So that was our night of worship.

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It was just a great celebration.

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So we've had a great week.

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And then on, when did John and Stacey get here?

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So we have some dear friends, John and Stacey Lynch.

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John wrote a book called The Cure with two other guys.

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Later he wrote another book called On My Worst Day.

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I highly recommend both of those books.

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And John, John grew up in California, then later in Arizona.

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And he is a master storyteller.

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Oh my goodness.

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A master communicator and just one of the best wordsmiths in the pulpit of it.

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But he is not a preacher.

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And he pastored how many years?

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35 years.

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35 years.

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Open door fellowship in Phoenix.

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But he's not like a preacher.

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He is more like an actor.

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He acts out his sermons.

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It's because he went to school.

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Well, he was in theater and he was a theater teacher at one point.

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And then he got saved.

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Radically saved.

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He changed everything but it didn't affect that part of his life because he used that

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talent that he has in acting.

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For sermon, it's amazing.

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And he tells the story.

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So we're not just seeing an actor up there that's acting out and doesn't truly believe

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what he's saying.

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It's amazing.

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I would encourage you to go to our website.

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It's bridgefbg.com.

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Bridgefbg.com.

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And watch the message from today.

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We had a 9 a.m. service, 1045.

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The first part of it's worship.

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You can fast forward.

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If you want to go right to John's message, watch John Lynch.

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John is an amazing author, speaker, pastor.

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Now his son Caleb is pastoring that church while John's traveling now in Stacy.

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So we had John last year.

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It just blew our world up and it was so good.

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And we just fell in love.

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We felt like we had a best friend.

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I mean, this is our new best friend.

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And then we brought Stacy with him this time.

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And immediately it was like family.

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And it's interesting when you meet.

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I was telling John today, I said, John, it's funny because when we're in our 20s and we

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meet somebody, we don't have a lot of history to talk about.

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So you run out of stuff to talk about after about 15 minutes when you're in your 20s.

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But when you're our age, which I will not say out loud because at the same time, I'm

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not going to do it on honey.

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I'm going to respect you.

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We're supposed to respect our elders.

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So as Annette and I have gotten a little bit older, a little more what we would call treadwear

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on our tires, right?

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That's for sure.

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One way to say it.

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What's happened is, is we have story after story after story.

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And then John and Stacy have story after story.

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And then we went out to eat with Adam and Tina and John and Stacy and us.

522
00:20:40,860 --> 00:20:43,900
And you talk about a table full of stories.

523
00:20:43,900 --> 00:20:45,320
Oh my goodness.

524
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,300
We couldn't put them in eight volumes of books.

525
00:20:47,300 --> 00:20:53,420
I mean, that's and for four hours plus we sat when we got kicked out of our table, we

526
00:20:53,420 --> 00:20:55,780
were there for two hours and they kicked us out of the restaurant.

527
00:20:55,780 --> 00:20:59,140
And they just gave us our food and said, somebody needs your table.

528
00:20:59,140 --> 00:21:01,140
Now we were like, what?

529
00:21:01,140 --> 00:21:03,060
Well, you you've been here two hours.

530
00:21:03,060 --> 00:21:08,500
I know you're just now getting your food because you ordered late, but sorry, eat and go.

531
00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:09,500
Not happy about that.

532
00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:11,980
But we may be leaving a review for those guys.

533
00:21:11,980 --> 00:21:14,100
So anyway, they booted us out of our table.

534
00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:19,340
So Annette, we call her mama a when she gets into fire mode, she went up and had a good

535
00:21:19,340 --> 00:21:20,340
conversation.

536
00:21:20,340 --> 00:21:22,340
You were very kind.

537
00:21:22,340 --> 00:21:27,300
These people behind us said they wanted to give us their table because they had an hour

538
00:21:27,300 --> 00:21:28,380
and a half left.

539
00:21:28,380 --> 00:21:29,380
So we're going to sit there.

540
00:21:29,380 --> 00:21:34,860
And he looked over and he said, but that table is not for six people and y'all have six.

541
00:21:34,860 --> 00:21:36,320
That's just too crowded.

542
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:41,420
Let me move you out to the patio to a nice table, which was perfect.

543
00:21:41,420 --> 00:21:44,340
We're at this beautiful restaurant and winery.

544
00:21:44,340 --> 00:21:45,860
I'm not going to name the name.

545
00:21:45,860 --> 00:21:51,060
I'm going to be no because we're not happy with it right now, even though we're members.

546
00:21:51,060 --> 00:21:53,460
I will write a review.

547
00:21:53,460 --> 00:21:54,460
I'm sure you will.

548
00:21:54,460 --> 00:21:56,340
And it'll be kind, but firm.

549
00:21:56,340 --> 00:21:59,120
So truthful, speak the truth in love.

550
00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:03,020
So anyway, we went out there and it turned out to be beautiful, perfect day.

551
00:22:03,020 --> 00:22:04,220
And we sat out there for another two hours.

552
00:22:04,220 --> 00:22:05,280
It was actually better.

553
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,040
It turned out I wish we'd stayed been there the whole time.

554
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,960
But we had a great time and story after story around the table because the older you get.

555
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,780
So what I was telling John is like, now we've got all these stories and shared life experiences.

556
00:22:17,780 --> 00:22:21,900
Talk about iron sharpening iron and friendship and growth.

557
00:22:21,900 --> 00:22:22,900
Powerful stuff.

558
00:22:22,900 --> 00:22:30,620
John did our men's meeting on a Saturday morning, crushed it, hit it out of the park, grand slam.

559
00:22:30,620 --> 00:22:35,560
With 60 men show up early in the morning on Saturday, beautiful time together.

560
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:40,720
And then of course we had our lunch with them and Adam and Tina.

561
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:41,980
So many things are going on.

562
00:22:41,980 --> 00:22:43,340
My mind's buzzing.

563
00:22:43,340 --> 00:22:45,120
The Mercy Me opportunity.

564
00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:47,580
So many things with the Mercy Me band.

565
00:22:47,580 --> 00:22:48,700
So here's another thing that happened.

566
00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:53,860
So John spoke this morning, but a few weeks ago I was visiting with Michael, who is the

567
00:22:53,860 --> 00:22:56,060
lead guitar player for Mercy Me.

568
00:22:56,060 --> 00:23:00,820
He reached out to me through Facebook through a pastor friend named Darren Tyler at Conduit

569
00:23:00,820 --> 00:23:02,700
Church in Franklin.

570
00:23:02,700 --> 00:23:04,740
And so he reaches out through Darren.

571
00:23:04,740 --> 00:23:06,820
Darren goes, yeah, I know Jimmy Pruitt.

572
00:23:06,820 --> 00:23:08,620
He goes, oh, we love Adam Curry.

573
00:23:08,620 --> 00:23:09,900
We're no agenda fans.

574
00:23:09,900 --> 00:23:13,100
The whole Mercy Me group loved no agenda.

575
00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:14,780
They love no agenda.

576
00:23:14,780 --> 00:23:20,620
And so he reached out to me and said, hey, this is a long shot, but I understand you're

577
00:23:20,620 --> 00:23:21,620
Adam's pastor.

578
00:23:21,620 --> 00:23:25,660
I said, well, I'm his friend, but I'm also his pastor, but I'm his friend first.

579
00:23:25,660 --> 00:23:32,000
And he said, hey, if we're ever traveling out in that area, we'd like to VIP you guys

580
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,000
to a concert.

581
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,000
And guess what I did?

582
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:39,180
I got online and I looked and they're here April 16th.

583
00:23:39,180 --> 00:23:41,580
And I'm like, Jimmy, that's in three weeks.

584
00:23:41,580 --> 00:23:42,580
Yeah.

585
00:23:42,580 --> 00:23:45,020
And I reached out to Michael said, Michael, we would love to do that.

586
00:23:45,020 --> 00:23:49,380
Let me check in with Adam and Tina, see if they're available on the 16th and sure enough.

587
00:23:49,380 --> 00:23:50,380
We're leaving in two hours.

588
00:23:50,380 --> 00:23:54,860
Yeah, we're doing our broadcast now and we'll be getting jetting over to San Antonio for

589
00:23:54,860 --> 00:23:55,860
the night.

590
00:23:55,860 --> 00:23:58,940
But so, and then Michael and I hit it off.

591
00:23:58,940 --> 00:24:02,420
We ended up texting one night, what, five hours back and forth.

592
00:24:02,420 --> 00:24:03,420
Five and a half.

593
00:24:03,420 --> 00:24:04,420
Five and a half hours.

594
00:24:04,420 --> 00:24:08,540
You're like, you're still on, not on the phone, like talking, but texting the whole time.

595
00:24:08,540 --> 00:24:10,820
I felt kind of neglected that night.

596
00:24:10,820 --> 00:24:11,820
I'm sorry.

597
00:24:11,820 --> 00:24:15,180
I'll tell you when you meet Michael, you can scold him.

598
00:24:15,180 --> 00:24:17,920
You can scold Michael tonight when you meet him.

599
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,300
So we get to meet the band tonight.

600
00:24:19,300 --> 00:24:20,300
We're looking forward to that.

601
00:24:20,300 --> 00:24:22,820
Michael and I are both, he's a guitar player, I'm a guitar player.

602
00:24:22,820 --> 00:24:27,180
So we got into gear conversations, which that's when it went rogue, you know?

603
00:24:27,180 --> 00:24:32,300
But anyway, so Adam and Tina, Tina knew about Mercy Me.

604
00:24:32,300 --> 00:24:34,780
Adam had not only heard one song, which was the famous song.

605
00:24:34,780 --> 00:24:39,980
And she knew because everybody knows, most people know I Can Only Imagine.

606
00:24:39,980 --> 00:24:43,400
Because that song, it wasn't just a Christian song.

607
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,300
It crossed over to the pop stations.

608
00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:48,440
And so it's a very well-known song.

609
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,060
And then also they made a movie.

610
00:24:51,060 --> 00:24:52,060
Yeah, I Can Only Imagine.

611
00:24:52,060 --> 00:24:54,780
Of Art's Life called I Can Only Imagine.

612
00:24:54,780 --> 00:24:59,660
So Adam got to watch that last night, the night before he had to watch it in two different

613
00:24:59,660 --> 00:25:02,940
segments.

614
00:25:02,940 --> 00:25:04,780
So it's a really cool connection.

615
00:25:04,780 --> 00:25:10,580
So while I'm talking to Michael that night that we had the marathon text thing, I mentioned,

616
00:25:10,580 --> 00:25:14,140
oh, and by the way, we're hosting John and Stacey Lynch.

617
00:25:14,140 --> 00:25:16,380
He lost his mind.

618
00:25:16,380 --> 00:25:18,540
Michael says, we love that guy.

619
00:25:18,540 --> 00:25:20,540
I knew they were connected to Mercy Me.

620
00:25:20,540 --> 00:25:21,540
I did not know.

621
00:25:21,540 --> 00:25:22,540
I don't remember that.

622
00:25:22,540 --> 00:25:25,980
I knew it because of Bart's connection to the 220 network and all that.

623
00:25:25,980 --> 00:25:26,980
I didn't know that.

624
00:25:26,980 --> 00:25:28,060
I already knew that.

625
00:25:28,060 --> 00:25:34,100
But I didn't know how connected until Michael went ape nuts on the phone.

626
00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:37,780
And I said, it's going to be the weekend that the concert's here.

627
00:25:37,780 --> 00:25:41,340
And he was like, oh my gosh, I wish they could come to the concert with you.

628
00:25:41,340 --> 00:25:44,420
They had an engagement over in Austin they had to get to this afternoon.

629
00:25:44,420 --> 00:25:45,420
So we didn't get to go.

630
00:25:45,420 --> 00:25:49,780
But anyway, you begin to realize that the world's small.

631
00:25:49,780 --> 00:25:52,140
As you get older, you know more people.

632
00:25:52,140 --> 00:25:53,660
The net goes all the way.

633
00:25:53,660 --> 00:25:56,860
It's like this big net around the globe where you know all these people.

634
00:25:56,860 --> 00:25:59,580
And then you begin to realize, wait, I know that person.

635
00:25:59,580 --> 00:26:00,580
Who knows that person?

636
00:26:00,580 --> 00:26:02,100
I may not know them, but I know their friend.

637
00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:07,780
And all these connections are happening right now that are just crazy, just wild.

638
00:26:07,780 --> 00:26:09,660
And so anyway, we'll go do that tonight.

639
00:26:09,660 --> 00:26:10,940
It's going to be a blast.

640
00:26:10,940 --> 00:26:14,300
And they're going to give us the VIP and give us a bunch of merch.

641
00:26:14,300 --> 00:26:15,540
And I don't know what that means.

642
00:26:15,540 --> 00:26:18,100
So that means you get to sit special seating.

643
00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:20,700
Is it like right up front where it's too loud?

644
00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:22,500
It'll probably be up front.

645
00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:26,280
And then we'll go in to the back.

646
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,780
So we get to park by the buses.

647
00:26:27,780 --> 00:26:30,860
And in fact, Michael will meet us out there with tickets.

648
00:26:30,860 --> 00:26:33,860
So it's a real neat thing.

649
00:26:33,860 --> 00:26:36,740
But they're goo goo over Adam Curry.

650
00:26:36,740 --> 00:26:38,220
They're just like bonkers over Adam.

651
00:26:38,220 --> 00:26:40,140
They'll be fanboying terribly.

652
00:26:40,140 --> 00:26:42,340
It's going to be hilarious.

653
00:26:42,340 --> 00:26:43,460
But it's really cool.

654
00:26:43,460 --> 00:26:44,940
It's been good for me to get to know Michael.

655
00:26:44,940 --> 00:26:46,660
I feel like there's a friendship there.

656
00:26:46,660 --> 00:26:48,620
And we go to Nashville a lot.

657
00:26:48,620 --> 00:26:49,940
And they live in Franklin.

658
00:26:49,940 --> 00:26:53,620
So I'll get out that way and get coffee or lunch.

659
00:26:53,620 --> 00:26:54,620
Cool stuff.

660
00:26:54,620 --> 00:26:56,140
All this is all tied together.

661
00:26:56,140 --> 00:26:59,060
Adam, John Curry, now Michael and the band.

662
00:26:59,060 --> 00:27:00,700
And what a week.

663
00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:01,700
It's all this week.

664
00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:02,700
I mean, it's all happened.

665
00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:04,620
So tonight's kind of the culmination of that.

666
00:27:04,620 --> 00:27:06,940
And then we fly out to Dallas first thing tomorrow.

667
00:27:06,940 --> 00:27:07,940
It's like, what?

668
00:27:07,940 --> 00:27:08,940
I know.

669
00:27:08,940 --> 00:27:09,940
It's going to be another busy week.

670
00:27:09,940 --> 00:27:11,420
We'll sleep next year.

671
00:27:11,420 --> 00:27:12,420
Right.

672
00:27:12,420 --> 00:27:13,980
We'll rest next year.

673
00:27:13,980 --> 00:27:16,420
But anyway, it's been a while.

674
00:27:16,420 --> 00:27:20,100
We want to talk a little bit because John brought something today.

675
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:22,180
He opened up a Pandora's box.

676
00:27:22,180 --> 00:27:27,820
When he was preaching, he told a story about him being molested when he was in the fifth

677
00:27:27,820 --> 00:27:32,900
grade and that he hid it for years, decades.

678
00:27:32,900 --> 00:27:33,900
Decades.

679
00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:34,900
Didn't tell his family.

680
00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:35,900
Didn't tell his wife.

681
00:27:35,900 --> 00:27:42,500
He just said, he determined I'm going to forget this and move on with my life.

682
00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:50,460
And yet anything that's hidden like that, he said hiding things is like a Petri dish

683
00:27:50,460 --> 00:27:55,540
for sin because it just eats you up from the inside out.

684
00:27:55,540 --> 00:28:00,900
And when he told that story, you could have heard a rat, I think, in the other end of

685
00:28:00,900 --> 00:28:02,900
the building or a squirrel up on the roof.

686
00:28:02,900 --> 00:28:05,020
I heard an airplane from the airport.

687
00:28:05,020 --> 00:28:06,260
I heard birds chirping.

688
00:28:06,260 --> 00:28:08,420
I mean, outside.

689
00:28:08,420 --> 00:28:10,540
That's how quiet it got in there.

690
00:28:10,540 --> 00:28:13,080
Well, he was so good.

691
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:19,140
He told an amazing kind of fun story to kind of get your heart melted.

692
00:28:19,140 --> 00:28:22,660
And then he throws that on you and you're like, what?

693
00:28:22,660 --> 00:28:23,660
What just happened?

694
00:28:23,660 --> 00:28:24,660
It's like dropping a bomb in a room.

695
00:28:24,660 --> 00:28:25,660
And you're like, oh my gosh.

696
00:28:25,660 --> 00:28:29,340
Of course, he's a genius in his storytelling.

697
00:28:29,340 --> 00:28:30,980
Master storyteller.

698
00:28:30,980 --> 00:28:35,940
So when he did that, he really cracked open the door about shame.

699
00:28:35,940 --> 00:28:42,180
And what he did is by exposing himself in terms of saying, this happened to me.

700
00:28:42,180 --> 00:28:45,000
It took me decades to finally tell.

701
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,980
And he said, and now I tell it everywhere I go.

702
00:28:48,980 --> 00:28:50,500
He said, I could never tell it.

703
00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:52,660
Now I can't stop telling it.

704
00:28:52,660 --> 00:28:53,660
That was huge.

705
00:28:53,660 --> 00:28:56,500
Because what it does, it opens other people up.

706
00:28:56,500 --> 00:29:01,260
When someone says, hey, I've got trauma.

707
00:29:01,260 --> 00:29:02,660
And I've lived with it hidden.

708
00:29:02,660 --> 00:29:04,620
I'm ashamed.

709
00:29:04,620 --> 00:29:07,780
What it does, the first person to do it, it's like tipping a domino.

710
00:29:07,780 --> 00:29:09,220
We used to play dominoes.

711
00:29:09,220 --> 00:29:12,860
Play with our parents and dominoes and we'd set them up and tip them.

712
00:29:12,860 --> 00:29:15,620
Or it's like a dam breaking.

713
00:29:15,620 --> 00:29:18,140
That water starts to seep through and then the crack gets bigger.

714
00:29:18,140 --> 00:29:22,380
And then suddenly you've got a whole river coming down the valley.

715
00:29:22,380 --> 00:29:23,480
And I saw that happen.

716
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:30,060
So I got up right after he finished his presentation, his message.

717
00:29:30,060 --> 00:29:34,340
And I issued an invitation for people to come forward to if you have it and you're ready

718
00:29:34,340 --> 00:29:38,420
to, if you're ready to offload shame, this is your moment.

719
00:29:38,420 --> 00:29:40,940
And a lot of people came forward.

720
00:29:40,940 --> 00:29:41,940
It was remarkable.

721
00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:44,860
This is what revivals come.

722
00:29:44,860 --> 00:29:48,900
I mean, literally revivals start out of something like that.

723
00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:49,900
I was praying.

724
00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:50,900
Man, I was praying.

725
00:29:50,900 --> 00:29:51,900
Confession and repentance.

726
00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:58,020
Please, just open up the dam so that people can get their secrets out.

727
00:29:58,020 --> 00:29:59,300
Not that we need to know their secrets.

728
00:29:59,300 --> 00:30:00,300
Right.

729
00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:01,300
We don't need to know the details.

730
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:02,300
No, we don't need to know details.

731
00:30:02,300 --> 00:30:08,740
But where people don't have shame anymore and they can walk in forgiveness of themselves,

732
00:30:08,740 --> 00:30:13,860
a person that perpetrated them, and be able to walk upright again.

733
00:30:13,860 --> 00:30:19,780
Because so many of us, and I know this, when he told the story, it reminded me of what

734
00:30:19,780 --> 00:30:22,940
happened to me as a teenager when I was 14.

735
00:30:22,940 --> 00:30:24,580
And I thought about you actually.

736
00:30:24,580 --> 00:30:25,580
I know.

737
00:30:25,580 --> 00:30:26,820
And I actually told John and Stacey.

738
00:30:26,820 --> 00:30:27,820
Oh, wow.

739
00:30:27,820 --> 00:30:31,140
And he said, how long did it take you before you could share it?

740
00:30:31,140 --> 00:30:33,180
I don't even know how long it took.

741
00:30:33,180 --> 00:30:35,220
It was after we were married.

742
00:30:35,220 --> 00:30:36,220
Yeah.

743
00:30:36,220 --> 00:30:38,020
And, but I was raped.

744
00:30:38,020 --> 00:30:39,020
A couple of decades.

745
00:30:39,020 --> 00:30:40,020
Yes.

746
00:30:40,020 --> 00:30:42,460
By two boys, a week apart.

747
00:30:42,460 --> 00:30:43,460
Gosh.

748
00:30:43,460 --> 00:30:47,300
They were friends and they set me up.

749
00:30:47,300 --> 00:30:48,420
And it was very hard.

750
00:30:48,420 --> 00:30:51,580
I lived with shame because you always blame yourself.

751
00:30:51,580 --> 00:30:54,780
You're at the wrong place at the wrong time.

752
00:30:54,780 --> 00:31:01,460
It caused an avalanche of challenges in my life from there on till I was in my 30s.

753
00:31:01,460 --> 00:31:02,460
It changed your life.

754
00:31:02,460 --> 00:31:03,460
It did.

755
00:31:03,460 --> 00:31:04,460
It changed my life.

756
00:31:04,460 --> 00:31:05,460
For the worse.

757
00:31:05,460 --> 00:31:10,260
And it, I had a terrible self-esteem.

758
00:31:10,260 --> 00:31:16,420
Then you marry someone who is putting you up on this pedestal until you get married.

759
00:31:16,420 --> 00:31:17,420
And I'm not talking about you.

760
00:31:17,420 --> 00:31:19,260
I'm talking about my first husband.

761
00:31:19,260 --> 00:31:25,660
And then it goes downhill from there because then he starts in on the same rant with me.

762
00:31:25,660 --> 00:31:30,340
And it just, I began to get lower and lower and lower until, I don't even know that I

763
00:31:30,340 --> 00:31:32,620
actually told him what happened.

764
00:31:32,620 --> 00:31:34,620
I may have, I don't even think I did.

765
00:31:34,620 --> 00:31:38,980
I remember when you told me and we talked about, we were talking about healing, getting

766
00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:40,380
healed from the inside out.

767
00:31:40,380 --> 00:31:47,140
It's one thing to get your, get your broken arm mended and healed or surgery over something.

768
00:31:47,140 --> 00:31:51,540
But how do you heal the human heart and the human spirit and the soul?

769
00:31:51,540 --> 00:31:52,540
When you're 14.

770
00:31:52,540 --> 00:31:53,540
Yeah.

771
00:31:53,540 --> 00:31:54,540
Oh my goodness.

772
00:31:54,540 --> 00:31:57,020
The damage that leaves in a person.

773
00:31:57,020 --> 00:32:02,020
And I know right now, as we're talking and Annette's opening up about this, I know there

774
00:32:02,020 --> 00:32:05,180
are people that are going to listen to this.

775
00:32:05,180 --> 00:32:08,740
You're listening right now and you're thinking, that is my story.

776
00:32:08,740 --> 00:32:16,060
It may not be the exact same trauma, but it's something that damaged you and it, it scarred

777
00:32:16,060 --> 00:32:20,780
your heart, it scarred your mind, it scarred your spirit.

778
00:32:20,780 --> 00:32:23,220
And those are the hardest things to heal.

779
00:32:23,220 --> 00:32:25,020
It really is.

780
00:32:25,020 --> 00:32:32,500
And especially for women, when you've been perpetrated, it's very, I mean, we played

781
00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:41,180
the blame game and we just, it's hard for us to overcome something like this and trust

782
00:32:41,180 --> 00:32:42,180
again.

783
00:32:42,180 --> 00:32:43,180
Yes.

784
00:32:43,180 --> 00:32:44,180
That's the biggest issue.

785
00:32:44,180 --> 00:32:45,260
I agree.

786
00:32:45,260 --> 00:32:47,700
John said that really resonated with me.

787
00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:53,620
He talked about guilt and shame, that guilt can be something that you suffer from based

788
00:32:53,620 --> 00:32:58,620
on a behavior or a mistake you made where you feel guilty for that.

789
00:32:58,620 --> 00:33:00,100
Shame is different.

790
00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:03,740
Shame strikes to the very core of the person that you are.

791
00:33:03,740 --> 00:33:08,740
In other words, shame strikes into your character, into your soul.

792
00:33:08,740 --> 00:33:11,940
It's much deeper and much more difficult.

793
00:33:11,940 --> 00:33:14,280
Guilt, we can, we can throw off guilt.

794
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,220
We can work through guilt.

795
00:33:16,220 --> 00:33:19,940
Shame is a much deeper cut of the soul.

796
00:33:19,940 --> 00:33:27,500
And I remember you, at first you didn't want to really talk about it out loud, like in

797
00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:28,820
front of people.

798
00:33:28,820 --> 00:33:31,240
We had been given some opportunities to speak.

799
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:36,860
You were invited to speak at a women's event and you showed up and I didn't go with you.

800
00:33:36,860 --> 00:33:37,860
You went with...

801
00:33:37,860 --> 00:33:40,740
No, I went with a lot of women from the church.

802
00:33:40,740 --> 00:33:43,460
And you spoke at this event and you told that story.

803
00:33:43,460 --> 00:33:48,740
And I remember you coming home and you told me, I didn't even cry, I'm healed.

804
00:33:48,740 --> 00:33:54,700
And one of the women, it was an older congregation, and one of the women came to me and she said,

805
00:33:54,700 --> 00:34:01,220
she said, honey, God has healed your emotions and that's why you're not crying.

806
00:34:01,220 --> 00:34:05,180
Because even as I was speaking, I said, I'm not crying anymore.

807
00:34:05,180 --> 00:34:06,700
I'm not crying anymore.

808
00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:09,340
And she said, because God's healed you.

809
00:34:09,340 --> 00:34:15,020
And you know what was funny is when I got asked to speak at this women's event, when

810
00:34:15,020 --> 00:34:18,420
I walked in, I had it all planned out, what I was going to talk about.

811
00:34:18,420 --> 00:34:21,820
When I walked in, all these women were quite a bit older.

812
00:34:21,820 --> 00:34:24,620
They were all gray haired women.

813
00:34:24,620 --> 00:34:28,020
And here I was in my early to mid 40s.

814
00:34:28,020 --> 00:34:29,020
Probably, yeah.

815
00:34:29,020 --> 00:34:30,020
Mid 40s.

816
00:34:30,020 --> 00:34:31,020
Yeah, yeah, I'd say 40s.

817
00:34:31,020 --> 00:34:33,660
And I thought, these ladies aren't going to be able to relate to me.

818
00:34:33,660 --> 00:34:34,660
I'm not going to be able to relate to them.

819
00:34:34,660 --> 00:34:36,340
I'm like a kid compared to them.

820
00:34:36,340 --> 00:34:37,420
Oh my gosh.

821
00:34:37,420 --> 00:34:43,660
I had no idea a lot of those women had gone through similar situations.

822
00:34:43,660 --> 00:34:49,460
And I remember standing up after I spoke and I was at the door and they were all walking

823
00:34:49,460 --> 00:34:53,500
by me and they were grabbing my hand and just, thank you, I needed that.

824
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:55,340
Now I can tell my story.

825
00:34:55,340 --> 00:34:59,260
And then some, now I know I can be whole again.

826
00:34:59,260 --> 00:35:00,260
I can be healed.

827
00:35:00,260 --> 00:35:04,100
And I was just sitting there thinking, I mean, these women, I was thinking maybe they were

828
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:12,060
in their 60s or 70s and I thought, wow, wow, I'm not the only one.

829
00:35:12,060 --> 00:35:15,100
I think you think for so long that you're the only one.

830
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:16,100
And that's why shame does, right?

831
00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:17,980
So you don't share it with anybody.

832
00:35:17,980 --> 00:35:19,220
Shame drives you into hiding.

833
00:35:19,220 --> 00:35:20,220
It does.

834
00:35:20,220 --> 00:35:23,220
So when you begin to hide, you also begin to pose.

835
00:35:23,220 --> 00:35:24,220
Exactly.

836
00:35:24,220 --> 00:35:29,460
You begin to put on a persona that's really not yours because you're projecting and you're

837
00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:31,700
overcompensating.

838
00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:36,140
And what happens in the midst of all that, you begin to lose your own identity and you

839
00:35:36,140 --> 00:35:40,020
don't even know who you are anymore or your identity never develops.

840
00:35:40,020 --> 00:35:46,500
You never become what we call getting comfortable in your own skin where you're just at a place

841
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:48,780
where, you know, I like who I am.

842
00:35:48,780 --> 00:35:52,580
It's hard to like who you are when you've got hidden trauma that's never been dealt

843
00:35:52,580 --> 00:35:53,580
with.

844
00:35:53,580 --> 00:35:58,900
Well, and if you don't get any kind of therapy, yeah, any help because you've hidden it even

845
00:35:58,900 --> 00:35:59,900
from people that could...

846
00:35:59,900 --> 00:36:03,100
Spiritual counseling....guide you to counseling.

847
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:04,580
You know, I mean, that was dangerous.

848
00:36:04,580 --> 00:36:05,860
That was a dangerous place.

849
00:36:05,860 --> 00:36:11,860
So you know, it took me years and years and years before I could get to the point to where

850
00:36:11,860 --> 00:36:14,820
I could share and then become healed.

851
00:36:14,820 --> 00:36:23,260
And later on, I went into, you know, was able to talk to therapists about it, but the shame

852
00:36:23,260 --> 00:36:24,540
just totally went away.

853
00:36:24,540 --> 00:36:27,380
Now it's just, this is what happened.

854
00:36:27,380 --> 00:36:28,740
And so now I've moved on.

855
00:36:28,740 --> 00:36:30,500
It's just part of what happened in my life.

856
00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:34,340
So part of what happened in terms of your healing is you got it out in the open.

857
00:36:34,340 --> 00:36:36,380
And this is something John mentioned.

858
00:36:36,380 --> 00:36:39,600
We've dealt with this for years with other people too.

859
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,740
When you get something out in the light, darkness can no longer be there because darkness isn't

860
00:36:44,740 --> 00:36:45,740
even real.

861
00:36:45,740 --> 00:36:49,180
All darkness is, is the absence of light at the end of the day.

862
00:36:49,180 --> 00:36:52,580
So darkness doesn't even have, there's no matter.

863
00:36:52,580 --> 00:36:54,660
There's nothing to it, no substance.

864
00:36:54,660 --> 00:36:56,060
It's a void.

865
00:36:56,060 --> 00:37:00,980
So when we go into hiding, we go into a vacuum and it just simply means that no light's been

866
00:37:00,980 --> 00:37:01,980
lit inside.

867
00:37:01,980 --> 00:37:05,860
But when you, if you've ever been in a movie theater in the day and you go out, it's like,

868
00:37:05,860 --> 00:37:08,060
whoa, you know, so bright.

869
00:37:08,060 --> 00:37:15,300
But what happens is when you expose that trauma, that shame, all that goes, that condemnation,

870
00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:18,140
guilt, all that stuff that goes along with that.

871
00:37:18,140 --> 00:37:23,620
When you get it into the light, light dissipates darkness.

872
00:37:23,620 --> 00:37:28,000
And it also dissipates that which has been hiding in darkness.

873
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,660
So you got it out in the open.

874
00:37:29,660 --> 00:37:31,100
You told me about it.

875
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:35,940
You later began to share it in various meetings and opportunities in ministry or just one

876
00:37:35,940 --> 00:37:38,220
on one meetings with women.

877
00:37:38,220 --> 00:37:43,340
And it didn't take long before you realized, I'm not crying about this anymore.

878
00:37:43,340 --> 00:37:45,060
I don't feel the pain.

879
00:37:45,060 --> 00:37:47,060
The triggers gone.

880
00:37:47,060 --> 00:37:49,660
I can pull the trigger, but there's no bullet in the gun.

881
00:37:49,660 --> 00:37:51,100
I mean, there's just nothing there.

882
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:52,100
Exactly.

883
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:53,980
And that's when you knew you were healed.

884
00:37:53,980 --> 00:37:56,300
And I remember watching that process.

885
00:37:56,300 --> 00:38:01,060
And that's why I said, Lord, use me to help other people because I didn't want something

886
00:38:01,060 --> 00:38:06,200
to happen to me that was that atrocious and it not be used for good.

887
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,540
What a waste of it.

888
00:38:07,540 --> 00:38:09,240
Yes, it is a waste of pain.

889
00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:15,260
And I said, open up my mouth, let me be able to tell my story, but not sort of trigger

890
00:38:15,260 --> 00:38:19,360
other women, but that'll bring healing to other women.

891
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,360
That's beautiful.

892
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,180
And I'm going to read you a Bible verse I'd like to share just to help any of you out

893
00:38:23,180 --> 00:38:24,180
there.

894
00:38:24,180 --> 00:38:29,900
And Annette and I, just because we're pastors, don't ever think that we don't have to stay

895
00:38:29,900 --> 00:38:30,900
in the word of God.

896
00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:37,700
We don't have to constantly feed ourselves life giving positive scripture because we're

897
00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:40,060
subject to the same things anyone else is.

898
00:38:40,060 --> 00:38:42,100
Don't ever think we're not.

899
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:47,180
And so in Romans chapter eight, verse one has become a go to for me when I'm having

900
00:38:47,180 --> 00:38:48,860
one of those days.

901
00:38:48,860 --> 00:38:54,540
Therefore, this is what it says, therefore there's now no condemnation for those who

902
00:38:54,540 --> 00:39:01,500
are in Christ Jesus because through Christ Jesus, the law of the spirit of life, boy

903
00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:03,420
what a beautiful phrase.

904
00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:04,700
It's a spirit of life.

905
00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:10,980
The law of the spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death.

906
00:39:10,980 --> 00:39:13,820
So what did it?

907
00:39:13,820 --> 00:39:18,020
It was Christ Jesus releasing to us the law of the spirit of life.

908
00:39:18,020 --> 00:39:24,740
In other words, Jesus is so life giving that when he comes into your life, there's an exchange

909
00:39:24,740 --> 00:39:27,780
your old life for a new life.

910
00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:30,780
And now you're operating under the law of the spirit of life in Christ.

911
00:39:30,780 --> 00:39:31,780
Annette I'm a new creation.

912
00:39:31,780 --> 00:39:32,780
John Yes you are.

913
00:39:32,780 --> 00:39:34,100
Annette I love that John talked about the old…

914
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:36,060
John I happen to like this new creation.

915
00:39:36,060 --> 00:39:37,060
Hubba hubba.

916
00:39:37,060 --> 00:39:38,700
Annette Oh my goodness.

917
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:41,400
He talked about the old creation versus new creation.

918
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:46,060
When we accept Christ, we literally have a new heart.

919
00:39:46,060 --> 00:39:47,060
We're new people.

920
00:39:47,060 --> 00:39:49,420
We're not even the same.

921
00:39:49,420 --> 00:39:56,500
If people could get a hold of us having this new creation that we don't have to live like

922
00:39:56,500 --> 00:40:01,940
we used to, we don't have to think like we used to, that we literally walk in newness

923
00:40:01,940 --> 00:40:03,900
of life with him.

924
00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:05,420
Oh my goodness.

925
00:40:05,420 --> 00:40:08,780
It brings freedom, freedom.

926
00:40:08,780 --> 00:40:12,180
And that is just my mantra.

927
00:40:12,180 --> 00:40:14,780
I mean I walk in the newness of life.

928
00:40:14,780 --> 00:40:17,340
That's what baptism is.

929
00:40:17,340 --> 00:40:25,100
When you baptize Adam and others, they laid down their old life and they were raised up

930
00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:29,700
in a new life with Christ.

931
00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:30,700
It's huge.

932
00:40:30,700 --> 00:40:31,700
It's just such freedom.

933
00:40:31,700 --> 00:40:34,180
John It's not just life changing.

934
00:40:34,180 --> 00:40:35,180
It's life exchanging.

935
00:40:35,180 --> 00:40:41,620
Annette We do a song called Beautiful Exchange, which

936
00:40:41,620 --> 00:40:43,180
I brought to our worship team.

937
00:40:43,180 --> 00:40:44,180
John I love that song.

938
00:40:44,180 --> 00:40:45,180
Annette It is.

939
00:40:45,180 --> 00:40:46,620
It's a beautiful exchange.

940
00:40:46,620 --> 00:40:47,860
John It is.

941
00:40:47,860 --> 00:40:48,900
It's glorious.

942
00:40:48,900 --> 00:40:51,780
So I have written on my arm in ink.

943
00:40:51,780 --> 00:40:54,580
So Annette had an idea of us getting tattoos one time.

944
00:40:54,580 --> 00:40:56,580
Annette Oh, you're not supposed to tell that.

945
00:40:56,580 --> 00:40:57,580
John What, we were 58?

946
00:40:57,580 --> 00:40:58,580
Something like that?

947
00:40:58,580 --> 00:40:59,580
Annette Oh, yeah.

948
00:40:59,580 --> 00:41:00,580
No.

949
00:41:00,580 --> 00:41:01,580
John Not last month.

950
00:41:01,580 --> 00:41:02,580
Annette Five years ago.

951
00:41:02,580 --> 00:41:03,580
John Last month.

952
00:41:03,580 --> 00:41:04,580
Annette Yeah, right.

953
00:41:04,580 --> 00:41:05,580
John So anyway, a while back.

954
00:41:05,580 --> 00:41:06,580
Annette Oh, my goodness.

955
00:41:06,580 --> 00:41:07,580
John You've given away our age.

956
00:41:07,580 --> 00:41:08,580
Annette Okay, edit this real quick.

957
00:41:08,580 --> 00:41:09,580
John Yeah, right.

958
00:41:09,580 --> 00:41:10,580
No, I'm leaving it.

959
00:41:10,580 --> 00:41:16,540
Indeed, John 836, the whole scripture says, whom the Son has set free is free indeed.

960
00:41:16,540 --> 00:41:20,340
It's talking about being set free by the power of Christ.

961
00:41:20,340 --> 00:41:22,980
And I actually tattooed it so that I can see it.

962
00:41:22,980 --> 00:41:24,860
It isn't really for other people.

963
00:41:24,860 --> 00:41:28,980
It's fairly large, but it's on the inside of my forearm.

964
00:41:28,980 --> 00:41:32,980
And I want, I do, people do ask about it, which is pretty cool.

965
00:41:32,980 --> 00:41:38,620
But I love seeing that every day as a reminder that in Christ, I'm free, even if I don't

966
00:41:38,620 --> 00:41:42,220
think I am in the moment or feel like I am, I still am.

967
00:41:42,220 --> 00:41:44,140
And so I just want to encourage you with that.

968
00:41:44,140 --> 00:41:47,980
Now I have to have one other Bible verse and then we're going to land the plane.

969
00:41:47,980 --> 00:41:48,980
We're shooting our approach.

970
00:41:48,980 --> 00:41:50,980
Flaps are down, wheels are down, gears down.

971
00:41:50,980 --> 00:41:52,700
Annette You really are a preacher, aren't you?

972
00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:54,420
John I really am.

973
00:41:54,420 --> 00:41:55,420
What can I say?

974
00:41:55,420 --> 00:41:58,260
2 Corinthians 5, I'm not normal, but I'm sure.

975
00:41:58,260 --> 00:41:59,980
Annette Oh, wait, you didn't preach today.

976
00:41:59,980 --> 00:42:00,980
So that's why you're preaching.

977
00:42:00,980 --> 00:42:01,980
John Is that why I'm so wound up?

978
00:42:01,980 --> 00:42:02,980
Annette Yes, yes.

979
00:42:02,980 --> 00:42:03,980
You didn't get to preach.

980
00:42:03,980 --> 00:42:10,020
John 2 Corinthians 5, 17 says, therefore, by the way, it's one of the first Bible verses

981
00:42:10,020 --> 00:42:12,180
I ever memorized was this one.

982
00:42:12,180 --> 00:42:14,620
Someone told me to memorize it and it's the best one.

983
00:42:14,620 --> 00:42:19,100
Therefore if anyone is in Christ, they are a new creation.

984
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:23,120
The old has gone, the new has come.

985
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,300
So it's an exchange.

986
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:27,980
The old is gone, the new has come because you're a new creation in Christ.

987
00:42:27,980 --> 00:42:28,980
Isn't that beautiful?

988
00:42:28,980 --> 00:42:30,380
Annette It's very beautiful.

989
00:42:30,380 --> 00:42:31,380
John Wow.

990
00:42:31,380 --> 00:42:32,380
Mind-bending.

991
00:42:32,380 --> 00:42:34,980
Listen, don't play the shame game.

992
00:42:34,980 --> 00:42:38,960
There comes a point where you need to just offload that.

993
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:44,060
For most of us, it means finding someone that's trusted, someone that's safe.

994
00:42:44,060 --> 00:42:46,340
And listen, I know that's not easy to do.

995
00:42:46,340 --> 00:42:51,620
We've gone through seasons in our life and it's not the disany of our friends.

996
00:42:51,620 --> 00:42:55,420
There's a difference between acquaintances and people who just love to hang around and

997
00:42:55,420 --> 00:42:58,620
those that you can really go deep with.

998
00:42:58,620 --> 00:42:59,620
And those are jewels.

999
00:42:59,620 --> 00:43:00,700
Those are gifts.

1000
00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:05,580
Those are treasures when they come along in our lives, somebody that can be trusted.

1001
00:43:05,580 --> 00:43:12,300
And so for us in our life, we've had trusted friends and each other that we could share

1002
00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:13,740
these things with.

1003
00:43:13,740 --> 00:43:21,460
And by getting them out into the light and out into the open, that shame loses its power

1004
00:43:21,460 --> 00:43:22,460
over your life.

1005
00:43:22,460 --> 00:43:23,460
Annette Exactly.

1006
00:43:23,460 --> 00:43:24,460
John Yeah.

1007
00:43:24,460 --> 00:43:25,460
I mean, that's been your experience.

1008
00:43:25,460 --> 00:43:26,460
You talked about it.

1009
00:43:26,460 --> 00:43:27,460
Annette Yes.

1010
00:43:27,460 --> 00:43:28,460
John It's been mine too, as a matter of fact.

1011
00:43:28,460 --> 00:43:30,900
I'm going to hear about that on another podcast.

1012
00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:32,580
Hey, just a couple of things before we go.

1013
00:43:32,580 --> 00:43:34,020
I want to thank everyone.

1014
00:43:34,020 --> 00:43:39,460
I've been reading through your comments on Fountain in particular, which is a great,

1015
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great value for value platform.

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I want to invite you to check out Fountain as a podcast platform.

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But just so appreciate the comments that you've left.

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I do want to read one if that's all right with you, babe.

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This one really blessed me.

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And I'm just so thankful when people take the time to write in and say thanks kind of

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thing.

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So here it is.

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And this is from...

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Let's see, I'm going all the way down to the show, that last show.

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So I'm sorry, we've got to find that episode.

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Here we go.

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This is from just this last week.

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Listen to this, Annette.

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It's very short, but I just want to say thanks to RGBTC.

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They gave us a thousand sats, which was nice for a boost.

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But listen to this.

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Thank you for helping me rediscover a relationship with Christ.

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God bless.

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And RGBTC, we just want to say thank you for saying thank you and appreciate the sats.

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But more than that, I appreciate you letting us know that our conversations here and our

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vulnerability here is helping you.

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And so I prayed for you when I read your comment, by the way, because it was such an encouragement

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to me.

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And so I just want to say blessings to you.

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That's why we do this.

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It is.

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I don't want to do this just to have a show.

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I want it to be meaningful.

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And I want people to feel life coming out of us and receive life that Jesus, only Jesus

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can give.

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Absolutely.

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That's our heart for you living up in a down world.

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And we want you to get your buckets filled up with this life so that you can go out and

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make beautiful messes every day all over the place.

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Much love to you all.

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There was more that we want to say.

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We're full, aren't we?

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Our buckets are full.

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We have to catch a ride.

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On the road to San Antonio to go see Mercy Me.

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We're pretty quick, so I've got to finish producing this.

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We love you.

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Live up in a down world.

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Have a great week.

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Make beautiful messes everywhere you go.