"When Suffering Knocks on Your Door"

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This is Jimmy and Annette, and we are back together

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in the studio. And we are living up in a down

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world. Hey, baby girl, how are you doing over

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there? I'm doing great. How are you? I'm doing

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great. So I had a shocking experience last night.

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What was that? Well, we had, first of all, we

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had a great, we finished our Rebuilding Liberty

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course, took a bunch of folks through that, around

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100 people went through that, and we had such

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a good time. And then on the way home, I nearly

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had a car wreck when you said this to me. Oh,

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you're funny. You said, so do you want to do

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a podcast tomorrow? And I was like, what? I guess

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I shouldn't have said it while you were driving

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because you almost had a heart attack. I also

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did that guy thing where I just contained my

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excitement because I was afraid I got too excited.

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I didn't want to get my hopes up. You're hilarious.

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Welcome back to the show. It's been a minute.

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We had planned to do one a few weeks ago, two

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or three weeks ago, and my day got hijacked with

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work. And it happens in church world. In fact,

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I was talking with someone, I was visiting with

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someone in another part of the building and you

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were sitting here waiting to do the podcast.

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And I come back, what, two hours later and you're

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like, I guess we're not doing a podcast. So,

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yeah, but I thought it's time we need to do one.

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There's so many things going on, especially with

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what happened yesterday with the shooting. And

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I think it's there's a lot of questions that

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people are asking. And we don't have all the

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answers. We have the answer, which is Jesus.

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Yes. But I think it's worth talking about. And

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what was interesting is what we were going to

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talk about. few weeks ago was why do good things

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happen or bad things happen to good people or

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Christians for that matter. And I know you and

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Adam addressed that a little bit on when you

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had Adam on, but that was going to be our topic

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because of having a young person come in and

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ask those questions to us who was wanting some

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honest answers. She's trying to find her faith.

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And I said, you know, that's a good podcast to

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do because those are, I think you need to answer

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the questions that people are asking. And when

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you talk about answering questions, sometimes

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there's not answers. Not an answer. That are,

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and I never want to be just throw out some simplistic

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thinking. Right. Unless I believe it. And if

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I truly believe something, I'll tell you. But

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I don't want to like throw out like some kind

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of anecdote that's. That's just not well thought

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through. And so when we're talking about something

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like what happened in Minnesota, and those of

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you, I'm sure everyone by now knows, but the

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headline here in CBN News is trans gunman killed

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two children, injured 17, in attack on Minnesota

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school prayer service. This happened at a Catholic

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church called the Annunciation Catholic Church

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during an early morning worship service marking

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the start of a new year at the adjoining kindergarten.

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through eighth grade school and just a horrific,

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horrific tragedy, terrible thing. It's horrible.

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It's what everybody's thinking about. It's what

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everyone's praying about. It's what many are

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weeping about. Yes. Just the insane, unprovoked

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loss of innocent life. And it's just so unjust.

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It's so heartbreaking. Of course, as followers

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of Jesus, this is a church, Catholic church,

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so we feel a kinship. It's like our family. It's

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like somebody heard our family. And we're not

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Catholic, but we have a lot of Catholics that

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attend our church. We pastor a church called

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Bridge Church in Fredericksburg, Texas, and we

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love our friends. We love our brothers and sisters.

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And so this hits home. It does. It really does.

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Shook me up quite a bit when I first started

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seeing those reports rolling yesterday. I was

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just, I mean, it does. It takes you off guard.

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And it's interesting because I heard some, you

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know, as I picked up news pieces on Internet,

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you know, people were interviewing. And I heard

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one man say, how could God let this happen? Or

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where was God? Where was God in this? And you

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and I both looked at each other and just shook

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our heads like. We understand that people want

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to cry out and people want to travail. That's

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legitimate and it's real. I do take issue when

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people just immediately default to like God did

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something wrong or God missed something or God

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didn't see this coming. And I think that's what

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we need to address, the core issue. God doesn't

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cause bad things to happen. Now, a lot of times

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Christians will use language like he allows things

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to happen. And I've been checked up on that by

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a pastor who after he retired from pastoring,

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he became a therapist. And I remember seeing

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him back in Tennessee. It was a good night, a

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long time ago, years ago. 12 or 13 years ago.

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And I used that phrase, well, God allowed this

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to happen. He goes, what do you mean he allowed

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it? And he made me think about it. Well, but

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you have to think about Job and God allowing

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Satan to sift him, basically. And that's probably

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where people get that from. I think it is, but

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he made me realize it's not just that God allows.

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It almost puts God in the driver's seat of saying,

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you know, This is going to happen. I'm going

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to allow it to happen. So I'm just going to step

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out of the way. But really, you have to back

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up further than that and ask some other questions

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before you can even answer the questions. A lot

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of bad things happen to good people. First of

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all, God gave us one of the greatest gifts that

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when used wisely, it's wonderful. It's kind of

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like medicine. You know, you're given this medicine

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and used wisely. It helps relieve systems. Maybe

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it even brings healing or at least relief. Or

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relief, relieves pain. Yes. But used badly, it

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can cause addiction. Illegally. Yeah, opioid

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crisis. You've got people hooked on opioids and

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addicted to drugs and it's destroying lives.

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Right, right. So it's like a lot of things. It's

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a two -edged sword, right? Right. So God gave

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us this wonderful ability and gift of choice.

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Right. And Adam and I touched on this a couple

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weeks ago. It's called free will. Free will.

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The ability to choose life or the ability to

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choose death. Those are two pretty big extremes.

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Very big. But you can choose between doing the

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right thing and you can just as quickly choose

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between doing the wrong thing in God because

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of love. Because of love. See, if he didn't give

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us free will, we'd just be a bunch of robots

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down here. We'd be running out of computer program.

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Right. Just doing what we're programmed to do,

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but that would not be love. And so God, when

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he created us, he created us his own image so

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that we could have relationship with him. And

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we know this in our own relationship. If you

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don't have the free will to choice, it's not

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love. If you're married to a hyper -narcissist

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or a control freak and everything about your

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life over the years as he or she breaks you down,

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you end up just becoming a shell of a human being.

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You're like a robot. Because you're really not

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doing what you do for love or what you're choosing

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to. You're doing it to keep the peace. You're

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doing it to keep conflict away or to get beat

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down even further. That's horrifically dysfunctional.

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We all know that. Right. We see that in real

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life. In terms of spiritual, it's the same thing.

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God looks at us and he says, he looks at Jimmy

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Pruitt or he looks at Annette and he says, if

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they don't choose to love me, it's not going

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to be love. And we have a choice. It could be

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fear. It can be fear of retribution, fear of

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consequences. That's not love. That's just behavior

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modification. That's not what God's about. He

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wants our heart. Love the Lord your God with

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all your heart, mind, soul, and strength. Which

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is why we have the choice to serve him or not

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serve him. Exactly. And there's consequences

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for not serving him. Oh, absolutely. Joshua 24

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talks about choose you. This day whom you will

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serve. And then I looked up another verse because

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it really pinged this for me too. Deuteronomy

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30, 19 says this, that I have set before you,

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he's talking to the people of Israel, life and

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death, blessing and cursing. Therefore, what?

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Choose life that both you and your descendants

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may live. God gives this choice. And so here's

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the hard part. He gives us this choice, and then

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he doesn't intervene in the consequences. He

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lets things play out. When I was in social work,

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we used a term, natural and logical consequences.

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That term was in the DSM -5 book, and it became

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a part of our language when we were working with

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young people who had terrible disciplinary issues,

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rebellious, all that, and they were acting out,

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and there were natural and logical consequences

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that followed that. That's in me as well. So

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when I'm seeing things happen, somebody runs

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a stop sign. They weren't paying attention. They

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were looking at their phone. They were drunk

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or high or whatever, incapacitated. And they

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drove through that stop sign and they caused

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a catastrophic accident. That was a choice they

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made. The natural and logical consequences unfortunately

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impacted other people. And the ripple effect

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of that is horrible. So now let's look at the

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shooting in Minneapolis. A kid who at 17 years

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of age told his parents, I no longer want to

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be known as Robert. I want to be known as Robin.

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I choose to identify as a female. Mom drove him

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down, had a name change, a legal name change

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done in 2020 was when that was done. You did

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your research. Well, I've just, I mean, like

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anybody else, I'm hearing the news. I'm reading

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articles. Was he? a transgender did he go through

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this surgery or was he just i don't know i did

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not even i didn't see that he just wanted but

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he wanted to identify yeah yeah and uh you know

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this is my pronoun this is my name now and um

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and so all that happens and then the natural

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logical consequences to um not just body dysmorphia

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or gender dysmorphia but actual mental illness

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take their toll. And over time, hatred builds

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up. Hatred for self, hatred for family. And then

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as we saw in his 20 -minute manifesto video,

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hatred of the Jewish people, hatred of Christians,

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hatred of the president. I mean, it was just,

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it was hate -laced. Well, what is that? Well,

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a seed was planted and it gave a harvest of hate.

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Well, could God have intervened? Yes, he could,

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but not, he would violate love. He would violate

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the free gift. It's really good. I know this

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is hard to take sometimes because we want him

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to intervene. We're like, where was God when

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this happened? I'm like standing there weeping

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right in the middle of it and weeping just like

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everybody else is. But because of love, this

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is going to sound weird to say this about God.

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Because of love, he restricts himself. We don't

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restrict him, but he restricts himself. Which

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leaves room for mystery. Mystery, free will.

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There are things we just will not, you know,

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we talked about the scripture and I believe it's

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in Corinthians talking about, I mean, there are

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things we will not know on this side of heaven.

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You have to reconcile that or you'll be miserable.

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Or you will, you'll always. Or you'll lose faith.

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Yeah, you will. You won't be able to walk as

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a person of faith. I think that's why people

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deconstruct their faith, which we hear a lot.

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Right. We're talking famous singers. Right. Who

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have. have preached and sung about the goodness

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of God and then all of a sudden they're out of

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the spotlight and they... deconstruct and then

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they go back and say everything was a lie or,

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you know, I was never really a Christian. I don't

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believe anymore. I'm an agnostic or atheist.

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And that's what's happening is people, something

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like this happens and they didn't have the foundation

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to understand who God really is and the choice

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he gives us. So true. And doesn't this come back

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to, if you want to boil it down to its basic

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element, I've said this for years. I can't get

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away from it. It's trust. It is. Do we trust

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him when things don't go the way we think they

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should? And there are horrible things that happen.

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People are traumatized around this world on a

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daily basis by the millions. And it's heartbreaking

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and sad. But it's funny how... We don't want

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God to intervene in our life when things are

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going good or when we don't care, when we don't

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think about it, when we don't give Him the time

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of day. But when something goes bad, suddenly

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it's God's fault. I'm ready for people to start

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blaming the real issue here. It's Satan and it's

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sin. It's Satan, sin, and mankind making choices

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to do these things, whether it's driven through

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mental illness, driven through whatever. There's

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always a litany of things behind something. And

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I'm being simplistic, but we need to get back

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to the real source of evil in this world. And

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if you do not make room for the fact that there

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is a real devil and there is real evil, then

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you'll never actually be able to trust that there's

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a real God who's really good. Yes. Yes. Absolutely.

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Absolutely. Because you have to, like I said,

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you have to have that foundation of your faith,

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which is why we're about to do WWJD. which is

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our discipleship program that's starting in two

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weeks. And that has to do, the first one is foundation.

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And we have got to have a solid foundation. That's

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it. You know, it talks about the, even the elect

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will fall away. They'll get deceived in the last

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days. And we're in the last days. We've been

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in the last days since Jesus. left the earth

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and came back and so to me if we don't get to

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a point to where we can get our identity straight

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and really solidified who we are we're we're

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going to be one of those that's going to get

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deceived we talked about this um i think in our

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bible study or i've talked about it with someone

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recently i've talked about this so much recently

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that we have to get We've got to get the Word

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of God solidified in our heart. We've got to

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get in the Word. We've got to know what it says.

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We need to not take things out of context. A

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lot of people will read the Bible. I read to

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you that quote. that you gave to our staff the

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other day. And a lot of people will read the

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Bible and look for ways to confirm what they

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believe, rather than what God really is saying.

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What's the quote? I love this quote. Oh, wait.

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I've got so many quotes. I keep everything. We

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talked about it in staff. No, no, you didn't.

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Here it is. I do have it. Now I have it. Sorry,

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I was looking at the A .W. Tozer quote. Yes.

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This is a Tim Keller quote. Yes, it's so good.

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Yeah, I'm going to read it twice because you've

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got to really listen to it. Yes. Contemporary

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people tend to examine the Bible looking for

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things they can't accept. But Christians should

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reverse that, allowing the Bible to examine us

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looking for things. God can't accept. Yes. I'm

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going to read that one more time through. When

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I read that and then I sent it to you, we both

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on the way to church, we're just like, what?

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I said, send me that. I want to keep it. Let

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me read it one more time. Contemporary people

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tend to examine the Bible looking for things

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they can't accept, but Christians should reverse

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that, allowing the Bible to examine us looking

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for things God can't accept. And that's so true.

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I mean, we put the shoe on the wrong foot. Yes.

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We're like putting the onus on God. Right. And

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then we're reading the Bible wanting it to be

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a self -help book. We want to be validated in

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our worldly beliefs instead of being validated

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in our godly biblical beliefs. And doesn't that

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come back to lordship? Yes. Yes, it really does.

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Who's the lord? But, you know, you think about

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it. All these people come to church. Every week

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in different churches all over the world. But

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if they're not discipled in what the Bible says,

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who's going to disciple them? The world. The

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world will disciple our people. So we don't need

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to be looking for the Bible to validate our position,

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our belief system. We need to be looking at the

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Bible and reorienting and adjusting our life

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to it. Yes, absolutely. That quote from Tim Keller

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went off like a bomb in us because that's it.

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And we're guilty of that too. We've done that

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in the past. And the Lord has really convicted

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me. When I see something in the Bible that I'm

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just not sure about, I will go to a concordance.

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I'll look at the Greek. I'll look at the Hebrew.

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Let's take, for example, what Brian talked about

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with that pastor in Atlanta. Remember that? And

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he said the church is one of the largest growing

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churches. And he said he constructed the word

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fornication. to his, reconstructed that word

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basically. Redefined. Redefined it in his congregation.

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He's a single pastor. We won't name names or

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anything. Single pastor. He's not a pastor, but

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he's posing as one. Posing as a pastor. He's

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30, what, 38 or very young, but said fornication

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doesn't mean sex outside of marriage or whatever.

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He redefined the word. And so his church started

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growing because people were being validated.

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So he didn't redefine it to fit his theology.

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He redefined it to fit his philosophy. Exactly.

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His ideology, his ideology. Because that's not

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theology. No. That is a worldly way of looking

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at it. If you look at the Greek and Hebrew, I

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mean, it's clear what fornication means. Yeah,

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we looked it up. We were like, wait a minute.

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Yeah. Let's do a little dive on this because

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something's off here. That's just one example.

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And that's a pastor leading all these people

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astray. Fake pastor. And now, right, telling,

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giving everybody permission to have sex outside

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of marriage, you know, have multiple sex because.

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That's not what it means. It doesn't mean that.

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So if it doesn't mean that, man, let's just go

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crazy. That's the problem. That is the problem.

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That's why we can't even depend. And I hate saying

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this because you're our pastor. I can't even

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depend on you to have all the right answers or

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say exactly the right thing. Well, my job isn't

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to give everybody answers. And this is such a

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misnomer about teachers or pastors, whatever

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discipline you're in, teaching in general. is

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that we're not there to give answers. We're there

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to help you arrive at the answers by helping

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you and helping you help point you to the source.

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The source is not a pastor. It's not me or a

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priest or a teacher or a mentor. The source is

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the word of God breathed by God himself. And

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that's what we go to. That is our standard. It

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is our objective standard. But Jimmy, we are

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such a microwave. generation of people that if

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a pastor says it, we just believe it. And you

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always say, check me up. Yes. You know, read

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the Bible for yourself, but don't just read it.

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Study it. Study, study what I'm saying. Study

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it in the Greek and the Hebrew. Look for the

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context. Don't pull things out of context, but

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people were busy. We're busy people. I know I'm

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busy. I'm too busy to do a podcast most of the

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time because I've got a lot. But you've got to

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determine if something doesn't ring true in your

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heart, at least check it out. And then let God

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reveal. Anytime I get in the Bible, anytime,

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I always ask God to give me that revelation.

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I don't want to be one of the elect in the last

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days that falls away. Because of deception. I

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don't. Yeah. And that means we got to have these

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foundations. We have to have the foundations.

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The foundations built on the word of God and

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also on your walk with God and your relationship.

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Absolutely. 2 Timothy 2 .15, you brought that

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up. Yes. It rang strong in me. Be diligent to

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present yourself approved to God, a worker who

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does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing

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the word of truth. That's 2 Timothy 2 .15. And

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that's it. He's saying. Be diligent. Be diligent.

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In other words, stay after it. Be disciplined.

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Yes. And dive into that word. I said this on

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Sunday morning to one of the services. I don't

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think I said it in both. But when you're reading

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the Bible, when I was a new Christian, I'm 18,

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19 years of age. I'm reading. The only Bible

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I had was a King James Version Bible. So we're

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talking about Elizabethan English. Which who

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can understand? I'm from West Texas. I can barely

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recognize real English. So much less, you know,

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modern English, much less Elizabethan English

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from the 1600s. So I've got a 1611 authorized

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King James Version Bible. It's the first thing

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I got my hand on. I'm trying to read this Bible.

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I'm struggling. I'm struggling. I can't understand

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it. The language is foreign to me. It's old English.

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The more time I spent in that word. the more

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I begin to understand. Why? Because my spirit

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was hearing it. My spirit, it was like pouring

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water into a desert where all those seeds are

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laying dormant. But once it rains in the desert,

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the desert blooms. And it's the same thing. And

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you can recall scripture that you might not have

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even understood, but God will give you that.

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To this day, lo these four decades later, I can

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literally recall scriptures I read in the King

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James Version. Thy word have I hid in mine heart

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that I might not sin against thee. I mean, all

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those are still there. And at the time, I was

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struggling to understand all of those. And yet

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they were still going in. It was like seeds getting

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planted in the soil. And then over time, as I

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grew and matured and learned and found a Bible,

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I could read. Ended up getting a new American

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Standard Bible. Okay, this makes more sense.

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I like the New Living. Yeah, there's great, great

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translations out there. And I like to use a bunch

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of them. Well, even the message, even though

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it was an odd translation when it came out, I

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like it because it reads like a book. It's in

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paragraph form. And it's just, to me, I loved

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going through. The message Bible. Yeah. So I

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want to, I want to encourage our listeners that

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you're okay over there. I have a call. Yeah.

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Get your water. Cause I want to encourage you

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who are listening to the show today and you're

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thinking, man, I just wish I could memorize Bible.

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I wish I had that kind of thing. And, and, but

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here's what I encourage you to do. Read it, even

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though you don't understand it, but let me give

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you some help in that. Start with a book of John.

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Start with a book of, um, uh, The book of Ephesians,

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the book of Galatians. These are letters. The

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letters are shorter. So you have, I say General

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Electric Power Company. It's a good way to remember

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these letters. General Electric Power Company.

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G stands for Galatians. E stands for Ephesians.

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P stands for Philippians. And E stands for Ephesians.

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Those are those middle letters. And they're short,

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short books that you can read. And read them

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even if you're thinking, I'm not getting this,

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but you're still putting the seed of God's word

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into the soil of your spirit. And trust me, trust

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me. I know by experience, there'll be a day where

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that gets watered and you begin to understand.

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Are you over there? Do you have a cough attack?

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Yes. Yeah, you. I'm getting these a lot. I don't

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know if there's allergies or something. Allergies

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this time of year. But what I was talking about

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was reading the Bible anyway. I did the Galatians,

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Ephesians, Philippians. General Electric Power

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Company. You got it. But, you know, young people

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don't know what General Electric Power Company

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is. It's perfect for us older folks. It's just

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a way to remember those middle books. No, but

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it's good. Yes, that's really good. Get those

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seeds in the soil of your spirit. And over time,

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God will water those seeds. Absolutely. And just

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like a desert that blooms, they'll bloom. They'll

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come to life. And your spirit's getting it even

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if your mind is not. You're bypassing your mind

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a little bit. Yes. But your mind will catch up.

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And so, yeah, let the word of God run out. Yeah.

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So who do we need to thank? We've got so many

00:26:35.210 --> 00:26:38.750
amazing people. Steve Wise. Yeah. Gosh. You keep

00:26:38.750 --> 00:26:41.369
up with that a lot better than I do. I do. But

00:26:41.369 --> 00:26:48.109
because I haven't had a podcast in a while, we

00:26:48.109 --> 00:26:51.359
have a lot of people to thank. While you're looking

00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:53.440
that up, I just want to say thanks to all of

00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:55.519
you who've been supporting our podcast and just

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encouraging us. We've got a great review. I want

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to pull that up because I was so encouraged by

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that. And we're blessed by you and blessed by

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what you do. So I want to share this review.

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And reviews are wonderful. First of all, they're

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encouraging, but also they help other people

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who are maybe looking at the website to say.

00:27:16.250 --> 00:27:18.430
Hmm, people like this. This is all right. So

00:27:18.430 --> 00:27:20.990
here's a five -star review. This is from Joshua

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Stafford in August. He says, this show is always

00:27:24.049 --> 00:27:26.289
a blessing. It's never quite the same. That's

00:27:26.289 --> 00:27:29.869
true. But why would you want that? From real

00:27:29.869 --> 00:27:32.289
-life adventures in the marriage of a busy pastoral

00:27:32.289 --> 00:27:34.809
couple to how God is at work in their ministries,

00:27:34.990 --> 00:27:37.589
there's never a dull moment. The brutal honesty

00:27:37.589 --> 00:27:39.789
of this humble couple is where the Holy Spirit

00:27:39.789 --> 00:27:42.930
comes in and communicates through them. Give

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it a listen and hear how you will relate. in

00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:48.380
each episode. Joshua, thank you so much for the

00:27:48.380 --> 00:27:51.900
review. We so appreciate it. And yeah, our heart

00:27:51.900 --> 00:27:54.859
is to be transparent and brutally honest. We

00:27:54.859 --> 00:27:57.759
don't know how to not be that. And that's just,

00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:00.539
we made that deal with one another. We made a

00:28:00.539 --> 00:28:03.039
covenant when we got married. We're always, we'll

00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:05.920
never hide our scars. We'll be open about what,

00:28:05.940 --> 00:28:08.140
what's going on. Did you find anything over there?

00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:13.440
Yeah. Steve Wise. Thank you, Steve. Julie. Herbert.

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Thank you, Julie. Russ Adams. Thank you, Russ.

00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:21.339
Gosh, I'm looking through all these. Did I say

00:28:21.339 --> 00:28:24.519
Russ? You said Russ Adams. I meant Adam Curry.

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I'm sorry. Where did you get Russ Adams? I have

00:28:27.140 --> 00:28:29.019
no idea. I'm looking through here. You combined

00:28:29.019 --> 00:28:31.680
Russ Hearn and Adam Curry. Yes, I sure did. And

00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:33.779
Russ doesn't listen to us apparently because

00:28:33.779 --> 00:28:36.920
he doesn't give. But anyway, no, but those are

00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:39.779
the ones that I have. Recently, I think I've

00:28:39.779 --> 00:28:42.059
gone through all of them. But other than your

00:28:42.059 --> 00:28:46.099
Bitcoin, people that give Bitcoin. Speaking of

00:28:46.099 --> 00:28:49.700
Adam, the Podfather Curry. Oh, my gosh. He and

00:28:49.700 --> 00:28:53.460
I are uber stoked about this. Well, it sounds

00:28:53.460 --> 00:28:55.039
like y 'all are doing the Godcaster together

00:28:55.039 --> 00:29:00.640
the way they bill you when we went to our meeting.

00:29:02.539 --> 00:29:05.480
I'm just helping. I'm just there to support the

00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:08.660
Godcaster. It's an amazing tool. You can download

00:29:08.660 --> 00:29:12.980
it. Just look for Godcaster app on iOS or Android.

00:29:13.500 --> 00:29:16.380
Download it and then find Hello Fred, Bridge

00:29:16.380 --> 00:29:19.000
Church, Fredericksburg. You can just find that.

00:29:19.059 --> 00:29:21.119
And once you find it, you can just lock it in

00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:23.579
as a follow. And then you can listen to 24 -7

00:29:23.579 --> 00:29:28.140
hour Christian music, podcast clips, sermon clips,

00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:30.859
short. They're always short to the point. Weather.

00:29:31.369 --> 00:29:34.289
news local news now we're also doing srn news

00:29:34.289 --> 00:29:36.809
so we got fake news on there it really does sound

00:29:36.809 --> 00:29:40.130
like a radio station it is a radio station it's

00:29:40.130 --> 00:29:42.670
so personal because it's our radio station and

00:29:42.670 --> 00:29:45.230
i love all the programming we choose all the

00:29:45.230 --> 00:29:49.069
music and uh and uh adam is kind of our he's

00:29:49.069 --> 00:29:53.289
our our host he he's our dj and uh we do it all

00:29:53.289 --> 00:29:54.809
together and we're having a blast with it but

00:29:54.809 --> 00:29:58.599
also adam and i Finally, after talking about

00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:01.220
this for about a year and a half. Yes. Every

00:30:01.220 --> 00:30:05.039
week we go, hey, we should just hit record and

00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:08.079
do a podcast. And then we don't. We're both running.

00:30:08.460 --> 00:30:10.299
Three years y 'all have talked about this? About

00:30:10.299 --> 00:30:12.420
two and a half, two years, whatever it is. Anyway,

00:30:12.460 --> 00:30:16.000
a long time. And so about, I think it's three

00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:19.500
weeks ago, Adam, I said, hey, bro, sit down with

00:30:19.500 --> 00:30:21.079
me. Let's do it. It was because that was when

00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:22.700
I was supposed to. Yeah, you were supposed to

00:30:22.700 --> 00:30:25.079
and you couldn't. And so Adam sat down and we.

00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:27.599
We did a podcast together. It was two podcasts

00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:30.480
ago. And we had so much fun doing it. We were

00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.180
like, okay, it's time. And then he really said,

00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:35.839
he said, the Lord began to speak to him and say,

00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:38.839
it's time. It's time. I love that. And if we

00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:40.799
would have done it ahead of time, it would have

00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:43.700
been out of time. So it is time now. So we are

00:30:43.700 --> 00:30:46.420
calling our podcast. This is Adam Curry and Jimmy

00:30:46.420 --> 00:30:49.099
Pruitt. And we're calling it. We get to do this.

00:30:49.579 --> 00:30:52.779
Just coming from a very pod. positive mindset,

00:30:53.140 --> 00:30:56.440
grateful mindset that what we do, we get to do

00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:59.980
together. And it's really, I'm the theologian

00:30:59.980 --> 00:31:03.660
and he's the cultural, as he calls himself, conspiracy

00:31:03.660 --> 00:31:07.380
therapist. So it really is God, the world, and

00:31:07.380 --> 00:31:09.519
other things. It really is. That is our subtitle,

00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:11.180
God, the world, and other things, because that's

00:31:11.180 --> 00:31:14.019
really what it is. God first, the world, what's

00:31:14.019 --> 00:31:16.539
going on in culture, and then other things as

00:31:16.539 --> 00:31:18.039
they come up. And so we're going to be addressing

00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:22.869
things. We are hitting record. On our first official

00:31:22.869 --> 00:31:26.150
podcast. Oh, when? Next Wednesday. Oh, okay.

00:31:26.210 --> 00:31:28.549
I was wondering. Next Wednesday morning at 10

00:31:28.549 --> 00:31:31.789
or 1030. He'll be here. We're going to use my

00:31:31.789 --> 00:31:34.789
studio for this because he likes the vibe in

00:31:34.789 --> 00:31:36.890
here. He loves it. So we're going to hang out

00:31:36.890 --> 00:31:39.200
in here. I do too. I'm going to. kind of mimic

00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:41.420
this vibe when my office is built. I do have

00:31:41.420 --> 00:31:44.400
the coolest office on the planet. It's an office

00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:46.859
and studio. It's really nice. I've got couches

00:31:46.859 --> 00:31:48.819
and chairs and a coffee bar. But I've got to

00:31:48.819 --> 00:31:50.559
one -up you. Most important pieces of the coffee

00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:55.599
bar. Of course you will. My studio office is

00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:59.680
about to be finished, and I can't wait to one

00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:01.750
-up you a little bit because, you know. So we're

00:32:01.750 --> 00:32:03.549
pulling the trigger next Wednesday. I think we're

00:32:03.549 --> 00:32:05.170
going to publish the following Monday. So we'll

00:32:05.170 --> 00:32:08.109
get word out. We're going to have a website.

00:32:08.250 --> 00:32:10.890
And you are going to try to be weekly as much

00:32:10.890 --> 00:32:12.890
as you can. We will be weekly as much as possible,

00:32:12.990 --> 00:32:15.210
which we're able to do. We can make that happen.

00:32:15.289 --> 00:32:18.690
So super stoked, super excited about it. And

00:32:18.690 --> 00:32:22.910
then also we've got a new podcast that has just

00:32:22.910 --> 00:32:26.210
been released on the Godcaster. I'm looking it

00:32:26.210 --> 00:32:30.109
up right now. It's Jonah Mandel. 14 years old.

00:32:30.230 --> 00:32:34.230
This kid is sharp. Looks like he's 17. He is

00:32:34.230 --> 00:32:37.849
so sharp, and I'm so proud of him. I'm going

00:32:37.849 --> 00:32:40.289
to make sure we've got his. Yeah, there it is.

00:32:40.710 --> 00:32:43.430
It's on the Godcaster under Bridge Church or

00:32:43.430 --> 00:32:48.009
Hello Fred, and it's called Young and Faithful.

00:32:48.289 --> 00:32:52.029
And he did his first. I'll put a link on the

00:32:52.029 --> 00:32:55.019
newsletter for that. He did his first podcast

00:32:55.019 --> 00:32:57.720
with Adam. Adam helped him get set up. He's teaching

00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:01.420
him how to use the gear. And one of the things

00:33:01.420 --> 00:33:03.319
that Adam's heart and mine, too, is that we want

00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:06.279
to raise up the next generation of podcasters

00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:09.720
and commentators and cultural guys who are stepping

00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:12.319
in and engaging culture from a faith, you know,

00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:15.140
from a biblical worldview. And anyway, so that's

00:33:15.140 --> 00:33:19.380
coming. So we've got our podcast. We've got Jonah's

00:33:19.380 --> 00:33:23.809
podcast. We're also adding stuff constantly to

00:33:23.809 --> 00:33:26.269
the Godcaster too. So all of that will be easy

00:33:26.269 --> 00:33:30.210
access. So anyway, yeah, I'm super pumped. We'll

00:33:30.210 --> 00:33:31.890
get the word out. We'll let people know on social

00:33:31.890 --> 00:33:34.250
media and different platforms of, hey, it's ready.

00:33:34.430 --> 00:33:36.650
And then we just want to invite you to jump in

00:33:36.650 --> 00:33:39.309
with us. And when me and Adam get together, it's

00:33:39.309 --> 00:33:42.529
crazy. It's just like every time we get together,

00:33:42.609 --> 00:33:44.690
we're like, we should have recorded that. But

00:33:44.690 --> 00:33:48.630
what I see this podcast becoming, it's like a

00:33:48.630 --> 00:33:51.869
no agenda. With Jesus. Pretty much. Yeah, absolutely.

00:33:51.869 --> 00:33:54.069
And so if you're a No Agenda fan, get ready.

00:33:54.210 --> 00:33:56.549
We will do media commentary. We'll do political

00:33:56.549 --> 00:33:58.630
commentary. We'll do theological commentary.

00:33:58.950 --> 00:34:01.490
And what is the Bible? From a biblical worldview,

00:34:02.009 --> 00:34:05.549
what are we seeing? And so it'll be both. It'll

00:34:05.549 --> 00:34:07.470
be all of that. Yes. It's going to be great.

00:34:07.549 --> 00:34:09.530
I can't wait. I can't wait to listen. It's fun

00:34:09.530 --> 00:34:10.369
to do something with your best friend. I'll probably

00:34:10.369 --> 00:34:12.630
be in this room watching and listening. You probably

00:34:12.630 --> 00:34:15.690
will. So yeah, I can't wait. All right. Anything

00:34:15.690 --> 00:34:17.550
else? I mean, we're not going to talk about,

00:34:17.650 --> 00:34:20.300
I mean. My gosh. There's so many things. There's

00:34:20.300 --> 00:34:21.960
so many things. But we have plenty of time to

00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:23.699
do that. We do. And I'm hungry, by the way. I

00:34:23.699 --> 00:34:24.900
know. Me too. Let's go eat. Let's go do lunch.

00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:27.119
Can I take you on a day date and go do lunch?

00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:28.780
Oh, that would be fun. I love you. You're gorgeous,

00:34:28.820 --> 00:34:30.559
by the way. Love you. Thank you. Thank you for

00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:32.760
doing this today. You're welcome. I'm still...

00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:35.079
I know. You're in shock. I'm just... This was

00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:36.920
your idea and I was blown away. Yes, it was.

00:34:37.179 --> 00:34:39.659
Thank you. All right. We love you. Hey, family,

00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:42.619
we love you guys. Thanks for tuning in with us

00:34:42.619 --> 00:34:45.760
today. This is a short but sweet, but hopefully

00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:48.000
helpful for you because that is really our heart.

00:34:48.179 --> 00:34:50.460
We want to help you live up in a down world by

00:34:50.460 --> 00:34:53.280
following Jesus and doing the next right thing.

00:34:53.380 --> 00:34:56.940
Have a blessed day and a blessed week on purpose.

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We are out of here.