Jan. 31, 2024
"Roswell and Area 51""
Join Jimmy and Annette as they engage the good, the bad, the ugly, and the beautiful of doing life together in a world that seems to have lost it's True North. Laugh with us, and at us, as we choose to Live Up in a Down World!
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Don't get down when you're seeing the worst
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Cause the last will be the first
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What a day I'm telling you
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All things will be new
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Living up in a down world
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Yeah we're living, yeah we're living
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Living up in a down world
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Oh
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This is Gene and Ed
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We are excited to be with you again
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Finally back into a weekend routine
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This is episode number 51
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That reminds me of Area 51
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You know about Area 51?
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Oh yeah, Roswell, New Mexico
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Well, ish
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Ish
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It's out more...
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That is close
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I thought it was around Las Vegas
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No, it's Roswell
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No, no, no
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No, no, no
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Adam the Podfather, Curry will correct this one
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Okay, I used to go to Roswell as a child every year
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But that's not where Area 51 is
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It is, it's that area
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Okay, I'm stopping the podcast
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No you're not
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Cause this is bad
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The news has ran off the rails
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I'm serious, no I'm not gonna stop it
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But really, it's lost
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Okay, I'm gonna look it up
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No, Google it
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I'm gonna Google it right now
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Chat GPT
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Oh my gosh
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No, no, no, I'm kidding
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Oh, you know who would kill us
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Hey, well, I'm not Tina
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Hey, welcome to our podcast
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This is Jimmy and Ed
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We are Living Up in a Down World
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And check us out at livingupinadownworld.com
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And Annette is...
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Dame Annette is all over Google right now
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Roswell, Area 51, Aliens
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No way
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Honey, Las Vegas, where in the world are you getting that from?
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Well, it does say Nevada right here too
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So, because we have a friend who will go in name
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Because he's classified
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Who worked at the non-existent Area 51
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Well, why is it that when we go through...
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But they flew out of Las Vegas in and out every day to this base that does not exist
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I don't know what I'm talking about
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You don't, girl, but I love you
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And you're beautiful by the way
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No, I'm serious, you are stunning
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Oh, wow, sound effects
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No, thank you Adam Curry for the cool sound effects
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So why did I think it was...
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Because there is something out there
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No, Roswell is where apparently...
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Aliens
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No, they said...
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Well, okay, there's this theory
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Or maybe an account
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I don't know, somebody will probably talk to me about it
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But where there was a spaceship
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A UFO that crashed
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And supposedly there were actually alien bodies that were extricated
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Then all of that was apparently taken to Area...
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Well, the non-existent Area 51
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You know, the place it doesn't exist
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So there's a lot of stories around that
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But anyway, all that to say, this is episode number 51
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Well, I totally messed that one up, didn't I?
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Well, I mean, I was trying to be sweet
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And then you just...
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Do we need to cut this and start over?
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No, we're rolling with it
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This is real life, baby
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This is unedited
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This is us
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This is us
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Hey, we love you guys
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Man, we got some sweet notes this week
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And just tons of encouragement
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Wait, wait, wait
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I have to stop
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Yeah, stop
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Today is your birthday
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Oh, happy birthday to me
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And...
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Oh, wait, do you even have...
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You know what?
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I got rid of my applause button
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Because I replaced it with this
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K-Y-V-O
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Keep your buckets overflowing
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K-Y-V-O
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Do that Mickey bucket
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K-K-K-Keep your bucket
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Oh, it's going
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K-K-Keep your bucket
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Well, I love that because
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It's so cheesy, but I love it
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It's Tina and Adam
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I love it
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On that jingle
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But that's your motto in life
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It is so my motto
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So it's very apropos for your birthday
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But I want to give a big shout out to
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Sir T.J. the Wrathful
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He's one of the Dorphil Gang
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And just such a cool guy
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His songs
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Such a great band
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The songs they sing
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These guys are amazing, the Dorphils
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Check them out
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You can find them on
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I know they've got their newest video
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It's a song called They Don't Know
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Which is my favorite song that they've done
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It's called They Don't Know
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They have a great video of it on YouTube
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So check it out
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Because it is really good
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But Sir T.J.'s one of...
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It's a huge fan
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Is he the one that did this jingle?
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He did this jingle
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And he did...
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I've got another version of it
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K-Y-V-O
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It's a short version
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So that's a short version
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Wow, that is short
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So if I just want to do a quick hit
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I can do that
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So I was looking for
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Because I was like
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It's okay, it's my birthday, right?
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So we need to have some kind of...
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No, that didn't do it either
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You need to celebrate
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I mean, not everybody celebrates
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Alright, it is Jimmy
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Pastor Jimmy Pruitt's birthday
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Way to go, Pastor Jimmy
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62,000 years of age
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Oh, 62
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You're so funny
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Wow
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I know
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Oh, I'm still on
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Oh, you're still on
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How are you going to get rid of it?
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I'm just going to leave it there
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The whole show
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I know
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I have too much fun with these pads
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Thanks to Adam Curry
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I nerd out on these
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By the way, you...
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You already said it
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I said it already
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I've got to say it again
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Why?
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I think it's the new lighting in the studio
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We're in the Living Up studio
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We've got it lit as if we're doing a video podcast
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It is legit
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But we're not doing that yet
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It is lit, alright
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It is lit
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So the lighting, is it taking away my wrinkles?
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What wrinkles?
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Oh, very good
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What wrinkles?
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That was a good answer
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So, it's my day today
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Happy birthday to me
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So what are we going to do?
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It's only a number
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What are we going to do?
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We're going to do our podcast
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I mean, for your birthday
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We're doing stuff I love to do
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I love to do this
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Well, that's true
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I mean, I really do
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I miss...
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Oh, man, I'm so happy to be back in a rhythm
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and doing it on a weekly basis
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Yeah, well, Adam Curry pretty much spanked us
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He's like, you really...
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And he didn't...
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I don't know if he said it to me
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But he said it through Tina to me
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Adam really doesn't like the fact that y'all are not doing this weekly
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Well, I didn't like it either
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Well, you know what we did?
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We were changing our staff meeting to Wednesdays
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so we could do this on Tuesdays and then get it out there on Wednesdays
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Definitely
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So, we're working on it
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This is way better
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I already feel better
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I mean, when we made this decision
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I felt such peace because I love the people that we're talking to
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I mean, I love the feedback
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We're more fresh in the morning as well
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Well, that's true
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Yeah, I don't know how Adam and Tina do it at night
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I'm done
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Well, we did ours last week
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Last Thursday night
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We did do Thursday night
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We did have a lot of energy
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We did
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Which was not normal for us
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That's true
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But today, it was really...
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It's really good
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So, we're just changing our...
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I'm thrilled to be doing it on my birthday
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We're changing our work schedule so that we can do this for our fun, I guess
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Our other work
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That's what we love to do
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This is our second job
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You know, job...
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Is it a job if you love what you're doing?
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That's true
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Does it really work?
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No, we love...
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This is a labor of love
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Because we love people
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We love helping
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And we want...
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We believe it's possible
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Jesus taught us how to pray
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Remember it in the Lord's model prayer?
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He said, on earth as it is in heaven
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Well, now, the way we say it in church is in earth
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Well, that's the old King James version
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But you know what?
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I do love that we do that every week
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Because it kind of sets up the sermon for us to really hear it
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Because we're praying that...
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Praying God's will
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Yeah, I remember
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And then we're listening
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True
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And I remember Dr. Mark Rutland, the way he says it is
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21 seconds to change your life
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And so, we've incorporated the Lord's model prayer into our weekly sermon setup
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I do that, I get up
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We pray for the peace of Israel as the Lord commands us to do
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Because we're friends of Israel
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And I don't care who doesn't like it
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We're grafted into that vine and Jesus was Jewish
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So, it is what it is
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And so, we're going to continue to always support and pray for
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We support them financially through our church
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The great ministry called Israel Media Ministries
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Who did an amazing job on your testimony video
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I've had a lot of good feedback
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Great feedback
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People are really touched by that
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And if you haven't seen that
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You can find that on YouTube
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And all you have to do is go to Israel Media Ministries
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And look for Annette's face
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It's right there at the beginning
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It's one of the first
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It's the last one they did
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They're working on mine right now
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But honey
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I can't wait to hear yours
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You did such a good job
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Thank you
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Listen, the production guy in the studio
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That was hired to do that video was crying
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I know, I know
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It was very moving
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He was crying
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He was like, wow
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Which is crazy
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Because I wasn't too, really much
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I was really trying to be focused
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It's beautiful
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I fell apart watching it
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It was real
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You did
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Yeah, we were watching it
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And you just seeing it with the music
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And they added these vignettes to it
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And it just brought it all back to you in a big way
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And there's so much more to the story
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But you can only say so much
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It's only a few minutes long, right
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So, like seven, eight minutes long or something
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Ten minutes
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Yes, yes
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So, go check it out
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Israel Media Ministries on YouTube
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Check out Annette's testimony video
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This is my story
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Powerful
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In fact, it was called
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From desperation to deliverance
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Yes
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From desperation to deliverance
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I had to think about it
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Because I hadn't looked at it in the last few days
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But anyway, super proud of you, babe
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You're a rock star
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Thank you
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I appreciate that
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Totally a rock star
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Yeah
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Keep your buckets overflowing
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You do
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So, welcome to the show
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Gosh, 62, it's just a number, right
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Right
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I feel amazing
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This has to lead right into a carnivore conversation
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Short version
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But we had dinner with some friends of ours
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Pastor Eddie Freeman and his wife
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Jessica
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Jessica from Gateway Church up in Southlake
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And he's what we call a relational pastor
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Because we're a part of the Gateway Network
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We're not an actual Gateway Church
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But we're just a part of the
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We relate to the bigger networks
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It's a network of about 100
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And probably by now, 170 churches or so
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Yes
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And we all connect for fellowship
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And resourcing and best practices and all that
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So he was
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They were in town yesterday
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So we had lunch with them
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And the carnivore thing came up
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Are you thirsty over there?
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I am
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Sorry, I had to get a drink
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It's okay
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So we had a carnival conversation
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Because we sat down to eat
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And we ordered a double meat burger with bacon
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And sunny side up eggs
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Or over easy eggs
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And no sides
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And they're like, what is this that you're doing?
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And they said, y'all look amazing
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And so, well, we're 200
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Yesterday was 209 days
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It's day 210, but who's counting?
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So 210 today
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I can't believe you're counting
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I'm keeping up with it
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I have a journal every day
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So I just keep it in my journal
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So I know right where we are
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Because it has been so impactful for us
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And so life-changing
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That it's important to document
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Speaking of documentation
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We're going to be in a documentary movie
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Right
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Coming up called Healing Humanity
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And it's being produced by Carrie Mann
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He is one of the influencers in the carnivore space
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And yeah, they reached out to us
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And so we'll be doing that interview in May
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They're going to come to our studio here
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And we'll do
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I think we're doing
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It'll be a video
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It's moving
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More early June
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Because of that weekend in May
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We're going to Nashville
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Right
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So it's right on the edge there
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On the edge there
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Yeah
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So anyway
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Super excited about that
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And excited because
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This has been a game changer for our health
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Yes
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So what did we eat last night?
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I mean, this is crazy
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So we had the double burger with bacon
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Avocado
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We did do a little avocado
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Which is not carnivore
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Just to add a little fat
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I don't mind having good fat
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Every once in a while like that
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I just had like a slice
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It was tiny
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But anyway
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We did that
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And so you'd think
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Wow, that was a big meal
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So we get home
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Oh my goodness
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For dinner
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I did two Chuck-Eye steaks
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And two New York strips
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Two New York strips
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I mean it completely covered the platter
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And we ate almost all of that
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We did
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Or did we eat all of it?
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Yeah, there was some fat on it
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That you didn't eat
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But man
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I was in carnivore heaven
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Yes
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But what does that do for our body?
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It's jet fuel for our body
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And when your body only has to process one food
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What?
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Nothing
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Keep going
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When your body only has to process one food
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I mean it's
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It's just so much better for you
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You have energy
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Yeah, it doesn't take you out
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So anyway
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Carvajalini is going great
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And so yeah
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It's always fun telling people about it
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They always look at you like
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What?
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You mean you can't
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No sugar
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You don't have dessert
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Oh well
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What about wine?
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Everybody wants to know
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Everybody wants to know
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What about wine?
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Can you have wine?
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You have a brood every once in a while
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Something that's
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A little champagne maybe
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That's non-sugar
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Just not every
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Just not regular
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Yeah, not regular
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Yeah, just enjoy it
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It's actually better when you have space in between
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Right
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Anyway
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So yeah
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So man
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God has been up to some cool stuff
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The waves of revival are really starting to happen
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We're seeing massive growth in our church
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We're seeing doors open up
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We already talked about going to three services
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Which has been exhausting
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Okay
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So we didn't know how exhausting this was going to be
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And on Sunday
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Mentally
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Mentally
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Mentally
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It's more mentally than physical
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Because when we were driving off
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You said I am exhausted
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I actually felt good on Sunday
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Well I think it's just all the people that were meeting
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And ministering too in between services
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And it was
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Yes, I was
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I took a nap
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You didn't
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You were wiped out
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I fell asleep
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We just turned on an HGTV show
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And literally within minutes I was out
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You were gone
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I just, yeah
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It's more exhausting than I thought it would be
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So I started a new series this Sunday called Mind Wars
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Winning the Battle of the Mind
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And I'm telling you that
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That was a hard hitter for people because
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People don't really stop to think about
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What they're thinking about
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And it's a quote from Pastor Steve Berger
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From Tennessee who said, this is years ago
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He said we have to start thinking about what we're thinking about
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Have you ever thought about that?
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Wow
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I mean really
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Well yes
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Just because
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I mean we've talked about this so much
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About the battlefield that's in between our ears
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And that's in our mind
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And how it can affect every area of our life
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There was a book written in 1995
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Do you know who wrote that book?
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Yes, oh yeah
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Joyce Meyer, Battlefield of the Mind
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The Battlefield of the Mind
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That was a huge book for us
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Yes it was
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And I think that was one of her earlier big books
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Oh yeah
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But to me one of her best
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And it talks about the war
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The assault on our minds that's coming at us
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When you think about
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I mean if you listen to No Agenda
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Which a lot of our friends here are No Agenda listeners
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No Agenda is a fantastic podcast by Adam Curry and John Dvorak
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About they do media deconstruction
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And so if you listen to them
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You will begin to really see patterns that
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What we're being fed by mainstream media is a load
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It's just not
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There's little to no truth
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Or it's twisted or warped truth
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Or it's their version of what they want us to hear
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Exactly
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And so there's an assault on our mind on a regular basis
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Whether it's through that thing you hold in your hand
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Called a phone
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Or your tablet or your whatever
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You know your computer
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That's coming at us all the time
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Commercials on TV
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I mean everything is designed to capture your mind
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And yet we
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The Bible says we've been given the mind of Christ
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And so at some point we have to say
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Am I going to become the gatekeeper or the guardian of my mind
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Or am I just going to be passive
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And let down my guard and let everything come into me
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That wants to come into me
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And people don't think about that
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We don't think about what we're thinking about
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Because what was the term that we used to say a lot
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When we watched a lot of TV
574
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We'd say I just need to vege
575
00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:44,000
As though we could watch this passively
576
00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,000
And not let it affect us
577
00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,000
Yes
578
00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,000
Well I remember when we were watching TV
579
00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,000
Things started getting worse and worse and worse
580
00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,000
And finally if you'll remember
581
00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,000
One time I decided
582
00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,000
Let's start fast forwarding through these parts
583
00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000
So 15, 20 years ago
584
00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,000
You didn't really think about it that much
585
00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,000
We didn't have the capability of doing that for one
586
00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,000
We didn't have DVR, that's right
587
00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,000
But now with everything
588
00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,000
It's gotten so much worse
589
00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,000
What dawned on us one day is that we were fast forwarding through
590
00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,000
More of the show than we were watching
591
00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,000
And I was like, okay, there's a tipping point here
592
00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,000
Where it's ridiculous
593
00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,000
Because the premise of the shows has changed so much
594
00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,000
And there's so much violence out there
595
00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,000
And for me, because I like justice
596
00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:35,000
I like shows, dramas, real life shows
597
00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,000
I like the datelines and all that
598
00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,000
I really like that
599
00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,000
Because I like to see how it gets solved
600
00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:45,000
I like to solve it while I'm watching it play out
601
00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,000
Honestly, I could have been an investigator
602
00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,000
Oh, you are an investigator
603
00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000
If I need somebody's cyber stock
604
00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000
I'd just say, Daymanette
605
00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,000
Could you go check out
606
00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,000
As a profession, I really could have gone into that
607
00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,000
Because I, or forensic science or anything like that
608
00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,000
Because I enjoy that
609
00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,000
But what it was doing to my mind and my emotions
610
00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,000
It was causing fear, too much fear
611
00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,000
So give some examples of how that manifested in our daily life
612
00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,000
The fear that you're talking about coming in
613
00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,000
I would, you know, as soon as it started to get dusk
614
00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,000
I would say, we've got to shut all the blinds
615
00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:30,000
And I was just constantly thinking about people lurking outside
616
00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,000
There was just so much fear that just entered my heart
617
00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,000
And it was devastating
618
00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,000
I remember you would be like
619
00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,000
Dreams, bad dreams
620
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,000
Bad dreams, you have horrible dreams
621
00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,000
And then you'd say things to me like
622
00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,000
Did you check the doors?
623
00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,000
Did you check the doors? And it got to be
624
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,000
At first it was kind of like
625
00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,000
Oh, honey, I got this, I got this
626
00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,000
But then I noticed it moved more obsessive
627
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,000
To where it was like
628
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,000
You were paranoid about it
629
00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,000
Well, there were times when the garage door didn't get shut
630
00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,000
So obviously that can
631
00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,000
And then we didn't lock the back door
632
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,000
But it got obsession
633
00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,000
It became an obsession
634
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,000
That's understandable
635
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,000
And that's when I finally said
636
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,000
We need to do something about this
637
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000
So in terms of the battlefield of the mind
638
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,000
And these mind wars
639
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,000
How has that impacted you from some of the trauma
640
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,000
That you experienced as a child and as an adult?
641
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:25,000
How have those things play into the mind?
642
00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:31,000
Well, for one, I have to change the way I viewed what happened to me
643
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,000
Oh, good
644
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:38,000
Because if I view it as just violence
645
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,000
And I don't see the compassion that God actually had
646
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,000
While I was in that situation
647
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:51,000
Or the compassion he had for the people that were the victimizers
648
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,000
It was when I did change my view of contempt
649
00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:01,000
For my family members or an ex-husband
650
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:06,000
To compassion because there is something that had to have happened
651
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:12,000
To them, to get them to the place where violence was caused on us
652
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,000
And havoc was reaped
653
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:21,000
How did things that were said to you by what I would call perpetrators
654
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:26,000
Things that were said to you by someone that you should have been coming from love
655
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,000
Someone that you could trust, that you were safe with, that you were loved
656
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:34,000
How did what you were called, what you were told, or what was done to you
657
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000
How did it impact you in your mind, in your thinking?
658
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,000
It devastated me at the time and for many years
659
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,000
I remember I was at a movie theater
660
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,000
And I was there with my ex and another couple
661
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,000
And we were sitting there waiting for the movie to begin
662
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:58,000
And the wife made a comment to me in front of everyone about my weight
663
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,000
She said, oh my gosh, you're so thin and you look so good
664
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:07,000
And my ex made a comment that stuck with me to this day
665
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:13,000
And this was, I was probably, I would say 18, 19 years of age
666
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:18,000
And he said, well, when she takes off her clothes, it just, it all falls out
667
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,000
So basically she's hiding her weight
668
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,000
And it, I mean I was probably all of maybe 105 pounds
669
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,000
Oh wow
670
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,000
Yeah, I was never that big at that time
671
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,000
That's where you are now
672
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,000
Oh, I'm not far off
673
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,000
You're real close
674
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,000
Not far off
675
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,000
You're real close
676
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:41,000
But anyway, but the thing is, is it affected me for years upon years upon years
677
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,000
And you know, Tina talks about it on her podcast about body dysmorphia
678
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,000
Boy, did I ever have that because of what he said
679
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,000
Those words
680
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,000
You and millions of other women
681
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,000
Yes
682
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,000
I know, it's so devastating
683
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,000
It was devastating
684
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:59,000
And I had to get to the point where I could be comfortable with myself
685
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,000
At a larger weight, which I've never
686
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,000
I don't think any women, any woman is really comfortable with themself
687
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,000
I don't know if we ever really get comfortable
688
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,000
Or content
689
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,000
Or content
690
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:17,000
Because we, magazines, TV, the media has just really
691
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,000
Porn
692
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,000
Yes, porn
693
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,000
All of that
694
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,000
It's played mind games with us and we feel like we're never perfect enough
695
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:30,000
But those words coming from a man who supposedly loved me and cherished me
696
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000
Just devastated me
697
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:37,000
And it really wasn't until I began a really stronger walk in the Lord
698
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,000
Where I was mature enough to brush it off
699
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,000
I mean, I still remember it, but the pain of it's not there
700
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,000
And then I marry you and you just say the opposite
701
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,000
Of course, you've never said a mean thing to me in 31 years
702
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,000
Can I park it right here?
703
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,000
Yes
704
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,000
I'm going to segue a little bit
705
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,000
Okay
706
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,000
How did these mind games, these head games
707
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,000
These negative, stinking, thinking, the zig-zag they used to say
708
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,000
How did all that play into our early years of marriage?
709
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:11,000
Because one of the things we wanted to mention and talk about was the power of intimacy
710
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,000
So I'm thinking about how the role that the mind plays in intimacy
711
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:20,000
So share an example of, do you remember the night we were in bed?
712
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,000
Like right after we got married
713
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,000
Is this going to be R rated or G rated?
714
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,000
No, this is safe, safe TV, safe podcasting
715
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,000
So no, it was the night that you accidentally hit me
716
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,000
Yes
717
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,000
And what did you do?
718
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000
Well, I
719
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,000
You rolled over or something and bumped me
720
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,000
No, I did, it was something by accident
721
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:48,000
And literally I pulled my arms up as if I was trying to protect myself from what you were about to do to me
722
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,000
I know
723
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,000
I would have done that even on accident to my ex
724
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,000
He would have
725
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,000
So you had a Pavlov's reaction
726
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,000
Yes, and he did too
727
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:05,000
That was so sad because he didn't think you don't hurt a woman or anybody
728
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,000
But he reacted
729
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,000
But obviously he had something going on
730
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,000
And we're not here to slam our exes or anything like that
731
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,000
This is reality
732
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:18,000
But what I'm saying is I'm sure it was something from his own childhood that caused him to become that way
733
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,000
I've thought about that a lot
734
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:24,000
Yeah, I mean people don't just overnight become evil or mean or
735
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,000
Reactive
736
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,000
Reactive
737
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,000
Raging
738
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,000
There is something that causes that
739
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,000
Well, I remember that night because I looked at you and I said, what are you doing?
740
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,000
And I said, you're not going to hit me back or hurt me?
741
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,000
And you were like, what?
742
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,000
Yeah, that was like days into our marriage
743
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000
And I was like, of course not
744
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000
That would never even enter my mind
745
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,000
It was an accident
746
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:51,000
But the fact, so thinking about head games, thinking about how the mind works
747
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:57,000
We realized very quickly in our new marriage that we have some things to overcome
748
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,000
And it took us a couple of years
749
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,000
For one, I didn't trust you
750
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,000
Because I had no reason
751
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,000
Because I was a scoundrel
752
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,000
To trust anybody after what I'd been through, you were not
753
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000
But I didn't have, I mean
754
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,000
Because of growing up with my father, growing up with my ex
755
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:20,000
Men in my life, I always had issues everywhere I worked
756
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:25,000
It was like I had a symbol on my forehead that says victim
757
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:30,000
Victimize her because she can take it, you know, kind of thing
758
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,000
And it was hard because I was always
759
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,000
Well, in a very real sense, you were beat down emotionally
760
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,000
Not physically necessarily, some of that
761
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:44,000
But mostly you were emotionally and psychologically beat down
762
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000
To the point where when we came together
763
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,000
And I realized very quickly, you were very open with me too
764
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,000
Our conversations were straight up
765
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,000
You needed to know what you were getting yourself into
766
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000
And you know what, I knew that
767
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,000
I weighed the cost, so to speak
768
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,000
I'm like, there's gold in those hills
769
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,000
I saw you, I'm like, there is gold in there
770
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:12,000
How Jesus sees us, which you saw the perfection in me
771
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,000
That's how Jesus, he doesn't see the sin
772
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,000
He sees us perfected, he sees us whole
773
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000
I can tell you where it happened
774
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,000
Where?
775
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,000
It was when Tony Gibson was leading worship
776
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,000
At Indiana Avenue Baptist Church on an evening
777
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,000
And I saw tears rolling down your cheeks during worship
778
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,000
So you knew there was a tenderness there
779
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,000
I was done, that was it
780
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,000
That was all I needed to know
781
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,000
But you didn't know what you were getting yourself into
782
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,000
My attitude was, that's all I need to know
783
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000
The rest is negotiable
784
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,000
We'll navigate life together
785
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,000
And I was all in, I was in from that moment forward
786
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,000
But a lot of things were hard for me
787
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:53,000
Because of, you know, your past can really dictate your future
788
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,000
There you go, there's the head games again, right?
789
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,000
This is the mind thing
790
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,000
And so when you go into your future
791
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,000
You're always looking back at what has happened to you
792
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,000
What's reoccurring
793
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,000
True
794
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,000
And you can tend to stay in those same patterns
795
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,000
Or you can get a new mindset
796
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,000
Which Romans 12, 2 says, change the way you think
797
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,000
Be transformed by changing the way you think
798
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,000
Yes, and so I had to get to that point
799
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:27,000
Where I had to allow the Lord to change my stinking thinking
800
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,000
To what you want from me as a husband and as a wife
801
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:37,000
What you want from us is true intimacy, true love
802
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,000
Safe love
803
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000
Where it's safe, you're not going to
804
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000
We're not name calling
805
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:49,000
We're not forcing one another to partake in intimacy
806
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,000
At the wrong time
807
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,000
Or you know what I'm saying?
808
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:59,000
And so that was a learning process based on what my whole past was
809
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,000
So how did having those mind battles, those mind games
810
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,000
How did it impact your capacity for intimacy?
811
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,000
I mean you had it, it was there, you wanted to be loved
812
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,000
You wanted to love
813
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,000
You know it's a desire
814
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,000
But you struggled, there was a wall
815
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,000
I did, it's an innate desire to be loved
816
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,000
Absolutely
817
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,000
But then you've got that distrust
818
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,000
You're so afraid to allow yourself to let go
819
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,000
It's going to happen again
820
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,000
Yes
821
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,000
I'm going to get betrayed
822
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,000
Yes
823
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,000
I'm going to get hurt
824
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,000
Absolutely
825
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,000
And so we build up these walls and this resistance to the very thing we need
826
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,000
Which is love and connection
827
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,000
And to feel safe with one another
828
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000
But you know what? I struggle too
829
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,000
I mean you talk about me like you married the perfect guy
830
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,000
I didn't, you married a guy who was damaged
831
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,000
I was hurt
832
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,000
I never saw that kind of damage
833
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,000
Well not the same kind of damage
834
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,000
I'm a dude too
835
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,000
So being a man, it's a different level of impact
836
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,000
And maybe it manifests in different ways
837
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,000
But I always kept this attachment-detachment thing
838
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000
Where I was attached but I was detached
839
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,000
And again of course I was the oldest son
840
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,000
I got all this kid syndrome
841
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000
I'm pretty independent by nature
842
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:21,000
Then you factor in that, that my first wife left me
843
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,000
Right
844
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,000
High and dry
845
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,000
Which I thanked her for
846
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,000
Because I can't understand that
847
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,000
It so wounded me though
848
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,000
And I just felt completely worthless and rejected
849
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,000
That's where I was like how can she leave this man who is
850
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,000
I mean okay you're not perfect, perfect
851
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,000
But you're as close as anyone I've ever known in my life
852
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000
About to turn this microphone off
853
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,000
I love you so much
854
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,000
We do have the door shut
855
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,000
And locked
856
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,000
And locked
857
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,000
But we're at the church
858
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,000
We've got a lot happening
859
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,000
That would be kind of weird
860
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,000
There's so much going on right now
861
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,000
You'll probably hear stuff
862
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,000
But honestly for me
863
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:02,000
When I'm contrasting you with past men in my life
864
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,000
You were perfect
865
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,000
So for me it was even hard for me to live up to that
866
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,000
They made it easy for me to be truthful
867
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,000
I mean because you had had a run of bad things
868
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,000
The enemy, by the way
869
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,000
There's a very real enemy
870
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,000
Friends, family, listeners
871
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,000
There's a real enemy
872
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,000
The enemy of your soul
873
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000
And he wants you dead
874
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000
He wants you marginalized
875
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,000
He wants you ineffective for the kingdom of God
876
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,000
And so Annette, Dame Annette
877
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,000
You had had so many hits
878
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,000
So many attacks
879
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,000
It's because the enemy knows the potential that's in you
880
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000
And that if you were ever to discover it
881
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000
It would be Katie bar the door on the things of the kingdom
882
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,000
So the enemy tries to devastate, destroy, kill, steal, and destroy
883
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,000
John 10, 10
884
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,000
The enemy comes except to kill, steal, and destroy
885
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,000
Jesus said, I came down
886
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,000
You might have life and have it to the full
887
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,000
More abundant
888
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,000
So we know that to be true
889
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,000
So all of you right now that feel like your life has been one
890
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,000
One devastating moment after another
891
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,000
One trauma after another
892
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,000
One let down
893
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,000
One disappointment
894
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,000
One discouragement after another
895
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,000
Let me tell you something
896
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,000
The higher the capacity of potential in your life
897
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,000
To make a difference in this world for Jesus
898
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,000
And for the kingdom of God
899
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,000
The higher your capacity and potential
900
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,000
The more the enemy tries to destroy you
901
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,000
That is absolutely true
902
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000
Before you ever realize that potential
903
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,000
There's the mind war
904
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,000
And that's why you have to stay in the word
905
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,000
And you have to let the word work in your life
906
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,000
There you go
907
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,000
You don't read the word and then walk away and forget it
908
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000
It's like looking in the mirror and forgetting what you look like
909
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,000
When you walk out
910
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,000
Bring out the book
911
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:47,000
Yes, you've got to allow that word to permeate in your heart
912
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000
So that you can walk it out
913
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,000
I love the book of James
914
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000
It says, don't be hearers only
915
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,000
Be doers of the word
916
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,000
And so you have to
917
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,000
You can't allow those things from the past
918
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,000
To hinder you from your future
919
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,000
He has a beautiful future for you
920
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,000
You just have to cooperate
921
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,000
That grace movement that says you don't have to do anything is wrong
922
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,000
We have to cooperate
923
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,000
That takes work to do that
924
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,000
We have to do something that some people don't like to use this word anymore
925
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,000
Obey
926
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,000
Obey, yes
927
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:24,000
We read what God says and we do what we're supposed to do
928
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,000
I mean it's really so simple we miss it
929
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,000
But in this world and culture we've been trained to resist
930
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,000
Anything that's telling us what to do
931
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,000
And it's getting worse
932
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000
Oh, the resistance is strong
933
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,000
Which means we have to get stronger
934
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000
Yeah, I love that
935
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,000
And the only way to get strong is to get into the meat of the word
936
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,000
And become mature believers, not immature
937
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,000
Or unbelieving believers
938
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,000
I think that's one of the things we heard from Joyce Meyer years ago
939
00:32:54,000 --> 00:33:00,000
There's too many unbelieving believers and we need to be believers of the word
940
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,000
And that means every aspect of the Bible
941
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,000
So can I quote Romans 12, too?
942
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,000
And do not be conformed to this world
943
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,000
That word conform means to be pressed into that shape
944
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,000
To conform, to become the form of what's being pressed
945
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,000
So do not be pressed, conformed to this world
946
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,000
But be transformed
947
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,000
That means to change your shape, the way you look, the way you act
948
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,000
Everything about you is changed, transformed
949
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000
Transformers
950
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:35,000
So do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind
951
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,000
By changing the way you think
952
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,000
Now let's fast forward
953
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,000
I think we should go back and talk about our first year of marriage
954
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000
And some of the terrible foibles
955
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,000
I know it got hard
956
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000
But let's fast forward to now
957
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,000
Because it's my birthday
958
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,000
Did I mention that earlier?
959
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,000
So I'm 62 years young
960
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,000
It is just a number
961
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,000
I've never felt better in my life
962
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000
I feel more alive than I've ever felt
963
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,000
I'm more excited about
964
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,000
I wake up so early in the morning
965
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,000
Not because I'm getting older
966
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,000
It's because I can't wait to get up
967
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,000
You have that outlook on life
968
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,000
Which you literally...
969
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,000
Living up in a down world
970
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,000
You're like, I don't want to go to sleep because I'm going to miss something
971
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,000
And I can't wait to wake up because I don't want to miss anything
972
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,000
FOMO, yeah, hashtag FOMO
973
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,000
Fear of missing out
974
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,000
Yes
975
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,000
But it's because I'm so thankful
976
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,000
So let's fast forward to now
977
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,000
We were talking about this today
978
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,000
So I don't know, for you married folks
979
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,000
Do you all have conversations in the bathroom when you're getting ready in the morning?
980
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,000
Everybody does
981
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,000
I'm in the shower yelling over the shower
982
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,000
You got your blow dryer going
983
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,000
We're yelling at each other like, hey, I think God's saying
984
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,000
Or hey, what do you want to talk about on the podcast today?
985
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,000
Or hey, what about, you know, we're just talking about
986
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,000
You got to get a car like that
987
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,000
All that stuff, you know
988
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,000
Life happens in the bathroom, in the kitchen, right?
989
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,000
Right
990
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,000
And so we're in there
991
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,000
And we're chatting back and forth
992
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,000
And I was just talking to you
993
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,000
And I was just saying
994
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,000
How much, how grateful I am for us
995
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:59,000
And how 31 years later, two marriages later
996
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:04,000
A lot of pain, a lot of struggle, a lot of misfires, a lot of bad choices
997
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,000
And yet today to look at our lives
998
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,000
I cannot help but just be grateful
999
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000
And so I'm yelling at you over the shower
1000
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,000
And you've got the hairdryer going
1001
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000
And I'm saying, I love you so much
1002
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:23,000
And I've never ever in my life had the ability to be as intimate, open, and free
1003
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,000
And safe as I am with you
1004
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,000
Never
1005
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,000
And it took years to get to that point for both of us
1006
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,000
I know
1007
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,000
And the reason I felt like that's important to say
1008
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,000
Is because some people think, gosh, I've been married five years
1009
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,000
I thought it'd be easier by now
1010
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,000
Or they hit that seven year, that seven year boy
1011
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,000
Seven year itch or whatever you call it
1012
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,000
Yeah, they call it seven year itch
1013
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,000
But really there is something about that year seven
1014
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,000
Whether it's in a job or where you live
1015
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,000
Or the house you're in or the car you own
1016
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,000
Or the people in your life
1017
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,000
There is something about the number seven and the year seven
1018
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,000
Which is transitory
1019
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,000
I mean it can be a real
1020
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,000
You almost have to press through it
1021
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000
It either makes or breaks you
1022
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,000
And a lot of marriages end at seven years
1023
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,000
There's just a switch
1024
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,000
That's true
1025
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,000
And a lot of people quit their jobs after seven years
1026
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,000
Or they move after seven
1027
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,000
There's just something to that seven year transition period
1028
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,000
Oh wait, is that a bad word to use nowadays?
1029
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,000
Have we ruined the word transition?
1030
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,000
No, no
1031
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,000
So anyway, I don't want to get off on the politics thing
1032
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,000
But anyway, all that to say is
1033
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,000
It was hitting me because I'm thinking
1034
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,000
Hey, it's my birthday today
1035
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,000
I mentioned that
1036
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,000
So I was in the shower thinking about my birthday
1037
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,000
Going, Kylie, 62
1038
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,000
And you were like, what are the things I want to do
1039
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,000
That are my favorite things to do today?
1040
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,000
Yeah, and I said
1041
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000
And you said, I want to do a podcast
1042
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,000
I want to do my podcast
1043
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000
And I want to hang around with my wife
1044
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,000
I want to be with my best friend
1045
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,000
And the person that I'm closest to on planet earth
1046
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,000
But then you set up lunch with someone else
1047
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,000
Hey, you told me to do that
1048
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,000
I know
1049
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,000
You said go for it
1050
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,000
Because I've been trying to get lunch
1051
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,000
But then you canceled because you're like
1052
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,000
I canceled because I'm out
1053
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,000
I can't do it
1054
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,000
I really want to spend time with you
1055
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,000
I do, and it's just time
1056
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,000
And this is important to me
1057
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,000
But I want to
1058
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,000
So you share a little bit from your perspective
1059
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,000
How different it is now
1060
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,000
And how it was when it began 31 years ago
1061
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:18,000
As we age and get closer to one another
1062
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,000
And that intimacy begins to grow
1063
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,000
I had no idea that your love could grow even more
1064
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,000
There it is
1065
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,000
You nailed it
1066
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,000
Man, I thought
1067
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,000
This is what I've heard from people
1068
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,000
I didn't think this
1069
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,000
But I did hear this
1070
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,000
And it's like, how can you be with the same person all your life?
1071
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,000
Aren't you going to get tired of that person?
1072
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,000
Yeah, I've heard it too
1073
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,000
No, because when it's true love, it grows
1074
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,000
Yeah, it's like carnivore
1075
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,000
Aren't you tired of meat?
1076
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,000
Aren't you tired of steak?
1077
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,000
People say that
1078
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,000
And I'm like, no, I can't wait for my next steak
1079
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,000
I know, it's a terrible metaphor
1080
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,000
It is, but it's true
1081
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,000
Because that's the number one thing people say
1082
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,000
Are you tired of eating the same thing?
1083
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,000
It's like that Huey Lewis and the new song
1084
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,000
What?
1085
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,000
The Power of Love
1086
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000
Oh, yes, now I do remember that song
1087
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,000
But yeah, it's true
1088
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,000
But you're right
1089
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:17,000
But the intimacy, the trust, the safety
1090
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,000
You know me more than anyone else in this world could ever know me
1091
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,000
And you know every flaw in my vocabulary of flaws
1092
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,000
You are so funny
1093
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,000
You always talk about flaws
1094
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,000
It's true though
1095
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,000
You don't have very many flaws
1096
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,000
Every flaw I have is there
1097
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,000
Well, I know everything about you
1098
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,000
You know everything about me
1099
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,000
And really, and we learn more as we grow
1100
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,000
It's interesting, after 31 years and the age we're at
1101
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,000
We're still in discovery mode
1102
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,000
When I hear people that have been married 50 years, 60 years
1103
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:52,000
It's just like, wow, that is just amazing to me
1104
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,000
And how close they can still be
1105
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So can I throw a question out?
1106
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Yes
1107
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So if someone was to say
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Well, it's so easy for you guys
1109
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,000
Y'all don't have to work at it
1110
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,000
What would you say?
1111
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,000
As you bump the table
1112
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,000
No, sorry, I'm bumping the table
1113
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,000
There's still work because everything takes work
1114
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,000
What does work look like?
1115
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,000
Work is effort
1116
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,000
So what does it look like?
1117
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,000
Effort to prefer the other one over yourself
1118
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,000
To ask the other one
1119
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,000
Can I get you a drink while I'm up getting myself one?
1120
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,000
There's work
1121
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,000
Sometimes you don't feel like being intimate
1122
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,000
And you have to lay that down
1123
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:41,000
And allow things to take place to where you can become intimate too
1124
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,000
I mean, there's things that work
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00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,000
It takes effort
1126
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,000
Marriage, two people, it takes effort
1127
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,000
So there is an ROI on this, right?
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Return on investment
1129
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,000
Yes
1130
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,000
We have to sow into each other
1131
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,000
Another person in order to reap something
1132
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,000
And we don't do it so that we can
1133
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,000
That's the byproduct
1134
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,000
That's the blessing of a blessed marriage
1135
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,000
Is that the work we put into it, there's always a return on it
1136
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,000
It's always a return
1137
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,000
The ROI is there
1138
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000
And we want to encourage you
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00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,000
Because I know we've had rocky points in our marriage
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Where we grew distant
1141
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,000
Especially when it came to raising children
1142
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,000
That is the hardest thing in the world to do
1143
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,000
If there is ever a stressor on the planet
1144
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,000
That can come between you and you don't even realize it
1145
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000
Because your thought is
1146
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My children in this season of their life
1147
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,000
We won't have them forever
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They're the most important thing in my life
1149
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And I disagree
1150
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000
And we had to learn this the hard way
1151
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,000
What was more important is that our children saw us valuing each other
1152
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:49,000
So that when they someday find their mates, their spouse
1153
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:54,000
That they will treat their spouse with the same dignity, respect, and honor
1154
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,000
That they saw us do
1155
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,000
And they saw that in us
1156
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:04,000
And that was brought up many times how much they saw the love in us
1157
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,000
And so that carried on in their own lives
1158
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,000
Our son in love, Mark, who lives in Tennessee
1159
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,000
He's married to our oldest daughter Alicia
1160
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He wrote us this week and said, you're my heroes
1161
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:19,000
And he wrote the most beautiful thing about you when he saw your testimony
1162
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:26,000
And when your son in law doesn't look at you as the weird in-laws that are nosy
1163
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,000
And in their business, but actually says you're my heroes
1164
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,000
Because of your marriage and because of your life and your walk with Jesus
1165
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,000
That's huge
1166
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,000
That's not to brag on us
1167
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:40,000
It's just we learned the hard way that we have to put in the work
1168
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,000
And we have to put in the work
1169
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,000
It's work
1170
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,000
And it's worth it
1171
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,000
And the first couple of years was really tough
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00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,000
Because I brought in teenagers into our marriage
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00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,000
Yeah, I started with teenagers
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00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:58,000
I wasn't doing like, you know, scooping poop off a baby and cleaning things up
1175
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Getting the white stuff off my collar and my shirt
1176
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,000
It was hard
1177
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,000
No, it was like...
1178
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,000
And the rebelliousness that was there
1179
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,000
Well, they were hurt, they were damaged
1180
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,000
They were
1181
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:13,000
And it took me years to even understand the ramifications of what took place
1182
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,000
Yeah, totally makes sense
1183
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,000
But it's all good now, thank God
1184
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,000
And God is good
1185
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,000
Our kids are thriving right now
1186
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:26,000
Even in the middle of the worst times we had, we never let go of God
1187
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,000
If anything, we turned more to God
1188
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,000
Yeah
1189
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:34,000
And too many people, things are going so well, they don't need God
1190
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,000
Tina and I were talking about that the other day
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00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,000
How many people don't need God
1192
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,000
Wow
1193
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,000
And so they live their lives for themselves
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00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,000
So they think
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Yes
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And they're miserable
1197
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:52,000
They may have all the wealth and material things and everything they want
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00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,000
But they're missing that one element
1199
00:42:54,000 --> 00:43:00,000
And literally that's what brought my mom to her knees when she found Christ
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00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:05,000
Was she had the wealth, she had all the material things she could want
1201
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,000
Right
1202
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,000
But she was empty
1203
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:11,000
Now she had a horrific husband
1204
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,000
But in spite of that, she was able to thrive in other areas
1205
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,000
Never had to work
1206
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,000
Other areas of her life
1207
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:22,000
But boy, was she ever empty and she found Jesus
1208
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,000
And so when my dad passed away, she never even remarried
1209
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,000
Because Jesus was enough for her
1210
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,000
And I loved that
1211
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,000
She didn't even have the desire
1212
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:38,000
She could have, she lived another what 21, 22 years
1213
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,000
But she said, I don't need that
1214
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,000
Jesus is enough
1215
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,000
And I would say this in terms of our intimacy
1216
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:52,000
The reason why we have been able to press past the pain, the trauma, divorces
1217
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,000
Everything we've been through, rejection, whatever the list goes on, failure, all that
1218
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,000
Is because of our walk with God
1219
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,000
Because of our walk with Jesus and the Holy Spirit
1220
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,000
Leading us, being our helper, being our intercessor, our advocate
1221
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,000
And every day pressing into that
1222
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,000
Because you and I both, we have a rhythm
1223
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,000
We both get up
1224
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,000
I get up a little earlier than you
1225
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,000
You're getting up earlier and earlier
1226
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,000
And then we, you go to your room
1227
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,000
I go to my man cave, you go to your she cave
1228
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,000
And you get in the Word, and I get in the Word
1229
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,000
And then as we're getting ready, things come out
1230
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,000
We start talking about it
1231
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,000
What did you get? What do you listen to?
1232
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,000
What's speaking to you?
1233
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,000
It always comes out in our conversation
1234
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,000
Whether while we're cooking, while we're driving to the office, whatever
1235
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,000
And then we do that life together
1236
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,000
And so, people who are newer to the faith
1237
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,000
Are trying to figure out, well, so do you do a devotional together?
1238
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,000
Sometimes we do, sometimes we don't
1239
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,000
Sometimes we don't
1240
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,000
It just depends
1241
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,000
It depends
1242
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,000
Different seasons
1243
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,000
And right now we're not doing anything
1244
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,000
And I don't think you always have to
1245
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,000
I don't either
1246
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,000
I think you do what's right for you at that time
1247
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,000
And sometimes, you know, we'll go, you know what?
1248
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,000
Let's do this one together
1249
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,000
And we'll do it
1250
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,000
We did two years of the whole Bible together
1251
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,000
We did, yeah, it was awesome
1252
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,000
And then we decided, let's just do some different things
1253
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:15,000
And what I love about it is we're always sharing together out of our experience
1254
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:21,000
And so, that intimacy with Jesus, that intimacy with God and the Holy Spirit
1255
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:26,000
It literally spills over and paves the way for us to have intimacy with one another
1256
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,000
Absolutely
1257
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:31,000
And I think without that, I can't even imagine doing life without that
1258
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,000
I know, I can't either
1259
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,000
Because what it does, it gives us a singular focus
1260
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,000
We're on the same page, we're going the same direction
1261
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:45,000
But I know also there's people listening whose spouse is not on the same page
1262
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:50,000
So what would we say to them in terms of what they're struggling with and their walk with God?
1263
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,000
How does that flesh out?
1264
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,000
Keep your faith, keep your faith
1265
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,000
Keep praying for your spouse
1266
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,000
I mean, we prayed for my dad for so many years
1267
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,000
We didn't see it as soon as we wanted to
1268
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,000
But boy, it came to fruition right before his death
1269
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,000
Right at the end, my goodness
1270
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,000
And we didn't know he was going to die two weeks later
1271
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,000
He didn't know he was going to die two weeks later
1272
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:17,000
But don't give up, but allow Jesus to be that lover in your life
1273
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:24,000
And too, if you're in a relationship where you're not getting support spiritually from your spouse
1274
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,000
And you want that, you desire that, you want to be on the same page
1275
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,000
Don't give up
1276
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,000
Don't give up
1277
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,000
Never give up
1278
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,000
Stay the course
1279
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:40,000
Those three words, stay the course, I would say is one of the clearest words from God I've ever heard in my life
1280
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,000
And I use it daily
1281
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,000
Stay the course
1282
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,000
And pray for them
1283
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:56,000
Can you imagine the impact if believers, believing believers prayed for the people that they're frustrated with or they're disconnected from
1284
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:01,000
If they prayed for their spouse as much as they put energy into other things
1285
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,000
Can you imagine the difference?
1286
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:09,000
Can you imagine the difference if we prayed for our president that he would be saved and transformed by Jesus
1287
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:15,000
As much as we criticize and judge and write post memes about him
1288
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,000
Can you imagine the difference that could make?
1289
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,000
But I say that about our spouse
1290
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,000
In my first marriage, I believed, I thought we would be okay
1291
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,000
I thought we could make it and we'd been married 10 years
1292
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,000
She walked away
1293
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,000
She walked away, I was all in, I was not going to walk away
1294
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:35,000
Even though it was hard, I was like, no, no, I'm not quitting, I didn't quit
1295
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,000
And I want to encourage you if you're in a hard situation
1296
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,000
Unless there's abuse
1297
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:47,000
Unless there's abuse, and there I would get counsel from a trusted pastor or trusted counselor
1298
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,000
Not necessarily your friends because they're all going to just pat you on the back
1299
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:56,000
But people who can speak truth into your life, I would definitely do that
1300
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:02,000
But if there's not that in it, I would encourage you to pray, pray, stand, believe
1301
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:06,000
Treat them with the honor and respect that you would like for them to treat you with
1302
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,000
Don't bash them over the head with the Bible
1303
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,000
Don't try to drag them to church
1304
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,000
Don't try to, don't go where you're not invited
1305
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,000
That's just one of my life mottoes
1306
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,000
Don't go where you're not invited
1307
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,000
I noticed you're looking at your watch, you think you're going to land the plane on this?
1308
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,000
First of all, we've got some thank yous to say
1309
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,000
And I, man, can I share scripture right before we do it?
1310
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,000
Because this scripture, really, I wanted to share at the beginning, but there wasn't a place
1311
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,000
Proverbs 23 says this, 23, 7 says,
1312
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:38,000
For as a man thinks in his heart, so is he
1313
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,000
We've been talking about intimacy, we've been talking about the mind wars
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00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,000
What's going on as a man thinks in his heart, which is the mind
1315
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:49,000
As a man thinks in his mind and his heart, so is he
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00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:54,000
And so we want to encourage you to be transformed by the renewing of your mind
1317
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:59,000
That's at Romans 12 to by spending time in God's Word
1318
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,000
It will change your life
1319
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,000
And any way we can help you and encourage you to do that
1320
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:10,000
Feel free to write us an email, go to our website, livingupinadownworld.com
1321
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,000
There's a place where you can write us right there on the front page
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00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,000
You can subscribe to our email list and we'll let you know a day in advance
1323
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:21,000
Or the same day sometimes that we're releasing a podcast
1324
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,000
And you can sign up for that, but you can also write us
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00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,000
We love hearing from you
1326
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:31,000
It's life-giving, it's never a nuisance, don't ever feel like what you're sharing is too little or too much
1327
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:37,000
Just feel free to reach out, we want to hear from you because we're here to help
1328
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,000
And so we've got some beautiful thank yous to give out
1329
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,000
And I want to just, and just one other thing I want to just promote
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00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,000
I want to say bridgefbg.com
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00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:53,000
And you can watch or listen to all the messages that I've done over the years
1332
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,000
Bridgefbg.com right there on the front page
1333
00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:01,000
Somebody else, another couple that we always want to talk about are our friends
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00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,000
Our best friends Adam and Tina Curry
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00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:08,000
Who had they not have encouraged us, we would not have a Living Up and a Down World podcast
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00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:14,000
And so just such love from those guys and love doing life with them
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00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,000
And they have a couple podcasts that I want to recommend
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00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,000
One is No Agenda, and again that's with Adam and his friend John Dvorak
1339
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,000
Where they do media deconstruction, you can find that on any platform
1340
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:30,000
And man, my favorite all-time podcast, this is really how I got to know Adam and Tina
1341
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,000
Is Curry and the Keeper
1342
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,000
And check them out, Curry and the Keeper, they've got curryandthekeeper.com
1343
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,000
Or you can find them on any of your podcast platforms
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00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,000
We recommend a value for value platform, Podcasting 2.0
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00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,000
Things like Cast-O-Matic or Fountain
1346
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,000
Where you can actually boost and encourage value for value
1347
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,000
If this podcast is bringing value to you
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00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:00,000
Then you can bring value back to us or to them or whoever you're listening to
1349
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,000
Through sharing, through giving
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00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,000
And so that's our website, livingupandadownworld.com
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Also I do daily devotionals on there
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If you want a daily word, and they're hot off the press
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That's the first thing I do, I get up in the morning, get in the word
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00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,000
And I write a devotional every day, I've done it for over 20 years now
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00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:22,000
And so just click on the blog tab in livingupandadownworld.com
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00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,000
And you'll see the daily divos every day, they're very short to the point
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00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,000
There's always a graphic that I like to do with Scripture
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Just to encourage you
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00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,000
And so if you want to get started on the Living Up and a Downworld Podcast episode
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00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,000
All 51, after I upload this one
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All 51 episodes are right there, and you can do that
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And then be sure and sign up for our Living Up newsletter
1363
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,000
And pass this to other people
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If you know, have friends and family who would benefit from these conversations
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00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,000
And us going there on some stuff, yeah, get it out there
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Definitely
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Oh, you just...
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No, I just said definitely
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You're supporting me, I love it
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Yes, yes
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I love it too, isn't it cool?
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I feel like there's a heavenly cloud over us
1373
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,000
We have this amazing drop light over us
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You should take a picture of it, put it in the newsletter
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I will, we'll do that in just a sec, this is very cool
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So anyway, I just got it put together, so I'm happy about it
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George Kirchner, another one of our favorites
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He's a member of our church
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He came up to me Sunday and just said
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Precious
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Talked about my video and how much he enjoyed it
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Listen to what he said, he wrote this in on our Living Up Podcast
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00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,000
Or Living Up Down World Podcast website, there it is
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00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,000
He says, this is for Annette
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00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,000
Just finished watching the video of your testimony
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And I wanted to let you know how touched I was
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By the way, the Lord has worked in your life
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Because you were willing to invite him in
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I pray that this video gets spread around
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So that others can hear of God's goodness and love for us
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Thank you for being open and sharing a very hurtful time in your life
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Please rest assured that you will be blessed for your faithfulness
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In his name, George
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I love that
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He's a sweet man
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00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,000
He is such an encourager
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They are precious
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We've got a boostagram from Sir T.J. The Raffle
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He's a big time Noah Jindiguy
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And an amazing musician as well with a striper boost
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That's 7,777 satoshis
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00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,000
People have said, what are satoshis?
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It's a denomination of Bitcoin
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00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:27,000
And on any of the Value for Value podcast 2.0 platforms
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00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,000
You can actually send satoshis to say, hey, we value what you're doing
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00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,000
And so, anyway, thank you, Sir T.J.
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He wrote this
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Hey, y'all, I've listened to every episode
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Love you both and your podcast
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I emailed you almost a year ago
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And Jimmy encouraged me to endure
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Which I'm determined to do more than ever
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As challenges seem to somehow get bigger
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I can't remember if I've boosted before
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So just wanted to send some value
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T-Y-F-Y-E-A-C
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Thank you for your encouragement and your courage
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Again, I love it
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We appreciate the striper boost
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And then, Annette, I don't know if you know this or not
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We've got a boostagram today from somebody called The Keeper
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Oh, wow!
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Isn't that cool?
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50,000 sats
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We love Tina Curry
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She's one of our dearest friends
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Our besties
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Besties, that's right
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She wrote Happy Birthday, Pastor Jimmy
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Adam and I love experiencing life with you
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And...I lost my place
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Life with you and Annette, my bad
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I was looking at something else
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And by the way, someone here is super happy
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That you're back to Recording Weekly
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Who could that be?
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Who could that be?
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Who would be happy about us recording again?
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Oh, Adam Curry
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And she says, KYBO
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KYBO
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Keep your bucket overflowing
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KYBO
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That leaky bucket
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Keep your bucket overflowing
1446
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,000
That's so funny
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00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,000
It's so cheesy, but I love it
1448
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Wow!
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Keep your bucket overflowing
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00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,000
Now we're turning into a variety show
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No, I know, here we go
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From David Wicker, I love David Wicker
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He wrote in, he also goes by Sir By His Grace
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He's a big No Agenda, a Kareen Keaper fan as well
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And a listener, and just a great guy
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Great brother in Christ
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He said, thank you for the plug
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Now what he's referring to, last week we plugged
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His wife's new effort, nonprofit
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Called Pushback for Liberty.com
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And that's Pushback for, with the number 4
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Liberty.com
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And what she's doing, she's just trying to equip parents
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About what's going on in our culture
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How they can take a stand, resources, links
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It's a new website that's up
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So we want to encourage you to go check out
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Pushbackforliberty.com
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And so David Wicker, you are welcome for the plug
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And you got another plug
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Because we care about liberty too, and freedom
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And he said, brought my beloved Jules to tears
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Jules, bless you, bless you, bless you in your efforts
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To make a difference
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She was so excited and it meant the world to her
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You are such a treasure in the hill country
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And beyond ripple effect
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She's got my favorite name
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Oh, Jules, you've always liked that
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Always, I've wanted to change my name to Jules
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I know, you've always said that
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For years
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Which is bizarro, but it is a beautiful name
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But you have a lovely name, Annette
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I like the name Jules
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It's easy to remember, because pretend you're falling into
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Maybe I like the name Jules because I like jewelry
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Indeed you do
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Jewelry can be expensive, it can be adorning
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There you go
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I don't know, there's
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It's in Kutraman, it's beautiful
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Yes, I just love it
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It's beautiful like you, for sure
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Oh, you're so sweet guys
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Okay, we must go now
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Now the last thing he says is K-Y-B-O on purpose
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On purpose, on my house, we'll do it again
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I'm going to do it again, I love it
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K-Y-B-O
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It's a happy tune, makes me want to dance
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But I won't
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What did you say?
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Makes me want to dance, but I won't
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No, please don't
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I'd probably knock my coffee over again on my keyboard
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My knee is hurting from dancing at the tendon bump
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I mean, literally, I had to quit walking and working out on my knee
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For weeks because of dancing
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So no more dancing for me
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I don't think you entered it dancing
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You entered it at the gym
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I probably re-entered it
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Because I saw you were doing bad form on squats
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I wasn't doing bad form
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Yes, you were
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I'm just a little old to be doing what I'm doing
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Hey guys, we love you, we are out of here
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It's been fun being with you today
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We love you, livingupinadownworld.com
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00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,000
Check it out, bridgefbg.com
1522
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,000
Check it out, we love you
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00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,000
We're so happy to be back to a weekly show
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We are out of here, have an amazing day on purpose
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And KYBO everybody
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Don't get down when you're seeing the worst
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Cause the last will be the first
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What a day I'm telling you
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All things will be new
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Living up in a down world
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Yeah we're living, yeah we're living
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Living up in a down world
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Oh
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This is Gene and Ed
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We are excited to be with you again
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Finally back into a weekend routine
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This is episode number 51
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That reminds me of Area 51
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You know about Area 51?
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Oh yeah, Roswell, New Mexico
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Well, ish
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Ish
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It's out more...
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That is close
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I thought it was around Las Vegas
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No, it's Roswell
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No, no, no
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No, no, no
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Adam the Podfather, Curry will correct this one
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Okay, I used to go to Roswell as a child every year
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But that's not where Area 51 is
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It is, it's that area
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Okay, I'm stopping the podcast
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No you're not
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Cause this is bad
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The news has ran off the rails
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I'm serious, no I'm not gonna stop it
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But really, it's lost
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Okay, I'm gonna look it up
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No, Google it
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I'm gonna Google it right now
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Chat GPT
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Oh my gosh
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No, no, no, I'm kidding
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Oh, you know who would kill us
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Hey, well, I'm not Tina
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Hey, welcome to our podcast
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This is Jimmy and Ed
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We are Living Up in a Down World
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And check us out at livingupinadownworld.com
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And Annette is...
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Dame Annette is all over Google right now
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Roswell, Area 51, Aliens
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No way
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Honey, Las Vegas, where in the world are you getting that from?
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Well, it does say Nevada right here too
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So, because we have a friend who will go in name
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Because he's classified
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Who worked at the non-existent Area 51
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Well, why is it that when we go through...
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But they flew out of Las Vegas in and out every day to this base that does not exist
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I don't know what I'm talking about
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You don't, girl, but I love you
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And you're beautiful by the way
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No, I'm serious, you are stunning
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Oh, wow, sound effects
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No, thank you Adam Curry for the cool sound effects
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So why did I think it was...
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Because there is something out there
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No, Roswell is where apparently...
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Aliens
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No, they said...
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Well, okay, there's this theory
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Or maybe an account
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I don't know, somebody will probably talk to me about it
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But where there was a spaceship
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A UFO that crashed
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And supposedly there were actually alien bodies that were extricated
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Then all of that was apparently taken to Area...
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Well, the non-existent Area 51
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You know, the place it doesn't exist
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Right
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So there's a lot of stories around that
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But anyway, all that to say, this is episode number 51
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Well, I totally messed that one up, didn't I?
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Well, I mean, I was trying to be sweet
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And then you just...
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Do we need to cut this and start over?
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No, we're rolling with it
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This is real life, baby
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This is unedited
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This is us
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Unscripted
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This is us
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Hey, we love you guys
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Man, we got some sweet notes this week
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And just tons of encouragement
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Wait, wait, wait
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I have to stop
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Yeah, stop
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Today is your birthday
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Oh, happy birthday to me
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And...
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Oh, wait, do you even have...
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You know what?
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I got rid of my applause button
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Because I replaced it with this
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K-Y-V-O
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Keep your buckets overflowing
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K-Y-V-O
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Do that Mickey bucket
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K-K-K-Keep your bucket
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Oh, it's going
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K-K-Keep your bucket
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Well, I love that because
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It's so cheesy, but I love it
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It's Tina and Adam
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Right
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I love it
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On that jingle
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But that's your motto in life
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It is so my motto
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So it's very apropos for your birthday
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But I want to give a big shout out to
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Sir T.J. the Wrathful
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Yes
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He's one of the Dorphil Gang
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And just such a cool guy
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His songs
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Such a great band
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The songs they sing
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These guys are amazing, the Dorphils
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Check them out
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You can find them on
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I know they've got their newest video
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It's a song called They Don't Know
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Which is my favorite song that they've done
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It's called They Don't Know
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They have a great video of it on YouTube
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So check it out
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Because it is really good
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But Sir T.J.'s one of...
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It's a huge fan
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Is he the one that did this jingle?
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He did this jingle
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And he did...
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I've got another version of it
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K-Y-V-O
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It's a short version
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So that's a short version
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Wow, that is short
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So if I just want to do a quick hit
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I can do that
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So I was looking for
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Because I was like
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It's okay, it's my birthday, right?
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So we need to have some kind of...
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No
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No, that didn't do it either
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You need to celebrate
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I mean, not everybody celebrates
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Alright, it is Jimmy
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Pastor Jimmy Pruitt's birthday
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Way to go, Pastor Jimmy
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62,000 years of age
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Oh, 62
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Okay, there
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You're so funny
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Wow
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I know
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Oh, I'm still on
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Oh, you're still on
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How are you going to get rid of it?
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I'm just going to leave it there
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The whole show
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No
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I know
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I have too much fun with these pads
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Thanks to Adam Curry
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I nerd out on these
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By the way, you...
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You already said it
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I said it already
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I've got to say it again
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Why?
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I think it's the new lighting in the studio
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We're in the Living Up studio
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We've got it lit as if we're doing a video podcast
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It is legit
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But we're not doing that yet
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It is lit, alright
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It is lit
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So the lighting, is it taking away my wrinkles?
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What wrinkles?
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Oh, very good
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What wrinkles?
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That was a good answer
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So, it's my day today
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Happy birthday to me
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So what are we going to do?
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It's only a number
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What are we going to do?
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We're going to do our podcast
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I mean, for your birthday
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We're doing stuff I love to do
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I love to do this
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Well, that's true
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I mean, I really do
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I miss...
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Oh, man, I'm so happy to be back in a rhythm
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and doing it on a weekly basis
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Yeah, well, Adam Curry pretty much spanked us
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He's like, you really...
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And he didn't...
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I don't know if he said it to me
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But he said it through Tina to me
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Adam really doesn't like the fact that y'all are not doing this weekly
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Well, I didn't like it either
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Well, you know what we did?
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We were changing our staff meeting to Wednesdays
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so we could do this on Tuesdays and then get it out there on Wednesdays
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Definitely
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So, we're working on it
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This is way better
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I already feel better
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I mean, when we made this decision
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I felt such peace because I love the people that we're talking to
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I mean, I love the feedback
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We're more fresh in the morning as well
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Well, that's true
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Yeah, I don't know how Adam and Tina do it at night
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I'm done
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Well, we did ours last week
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Last Thursday night
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We did do Thursday night
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We did have a lot of energy
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We did
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Which was not normal for us
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That's true
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But today, it was really...
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It's really good
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So, we're just changing our...
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I'm thrilled to be doing it on my birthday
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We're changing our work schedule so that we can do this for our fun, I guess
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Our other work
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That's what we love to do
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This is our second job
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You know, job...
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Is it a job if you love what you're doing?
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That's true
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Does it really work?
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No, we love...
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This is a labor of love
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Because we love people
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We love helping
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We believe it's possible
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Jesus taught us how to pray
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Remember it in the Lord's model prayer?
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He said, on earth as it is in heaven
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Well, now, the way we say it in church is in earth
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Well, that's the old King James version
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But you know what?
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I do love that we do that every week
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Because it kind of sets up the sermon for us to really hear it
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Because we're praying that...
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Praying God's will
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Yeah, I remember
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And then we're listening
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True
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And I remember Dr. Mark Rutland, the way he says it is
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21 seconds to change your life
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And so, we've incorporated the Lord's model prayer into our weekly sermon setup
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I do that, I get up
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We pray for the peace of Israel as the Lord commands us to do
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Because we're friends of Israel
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And I don't care who doesn't like it
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We're grafted into that vine and Jesus was Jewish
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So, it is what it is
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And so, we're going to continue to always support and pray for
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We support them financially through our church
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The great ministry called Israel Media Ministries
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Who did an amazing job on your testimony video
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I've had a lot of good feedback
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Great feedback
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People are really touched by that
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And if you haven't seen that
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You can find that on YouTube
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And all you have to do is go to Israel Media Ministries
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And look for Annette's face
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It's right there at the beginning
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It's one of the first
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It's the last one they did
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They're working on mine right now
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But honey
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I can't wait to hear yours
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You did such a good job
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Thank you
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Listen, the production guy in the studio
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That was hired to do that video was crying
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I know, I know
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It was very moving
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He was crying
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He was like, wow
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Which is crazy
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Because I wasn't too, really much
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I was really trying to be focused
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It's beautiful
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I fell apart watching it
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It was real
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You did
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Yeah, we were watching it
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And you just seeing it with the music
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And they added these vignettes to it
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And it just brought it all back to you in a big way
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And there's so much more to the story
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But you can only say so much
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It's only a few minutes long, right
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So, like seven, eight minutes long or something
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Ten minutes
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Yes, yes
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So, go check it out
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Israel Media Ministries on YouTube
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Check out Annette's testimony video
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This is my story
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Powerful
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In fact, it was called
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From desperation to deliverance
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Yes
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From desperation to deliverance
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I had to think about it
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Because I hadn't looked at it in the last few days
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But anyway, super proud of you, babe
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You're a rock star
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Thank you
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I appreciate that
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Totally a rock star
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Keep your buckets overflowing
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You do
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So, welcome to the show
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Gosh, 62, it's just a number, right
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Right
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I feel amazing
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This has to lead right into a carnivore conversation
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Short version
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But we had dinner with some friends of ours
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Pastor Eddie Freeman and his wife
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Jessica
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Jessica from Gateway Church up in Southlake
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And he's what we call a relational pastor
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Because we're a part of the Gateway Network
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We're not an actual Gateway Church
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But we're just a part of the
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We relate to the bigger networks
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It's a network of about 100
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And probably by now, 170 churches or so
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Yes
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And we all connect for fellowship
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And resourcing and best practices and all that
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So he was
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They were in town yesterday
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So we had lunch with them
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Are you thirsty over there?
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I am
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Sorry, I had to get a drink
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It's okay
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So we had a carnival conversation
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Because we sat down to eat
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And we ordered a double meat burger with bacon
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And sunny side up eggs
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Or over easy eggs
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And no sides
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And they're like, what is this that you're doing?
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And they said, y'all look amazing
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And so, well, we're 200
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Yesterday was 209 days
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It's day 210, but who's counting?
380
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So 210 today
381
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I can't believe you're counting
382
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I'm keeping up with it
383
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I have a journal every day
384
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So I just keep it in my journal
385
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So I know right where we are
386
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Because it has been so impactful for us
387
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And so life-changing
388
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That it's important to document
389
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Speaking of documentation
390
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We're going to be in a documentary movie
391
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Right
392
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Coming up called Healing Humanity
393
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And it's being produced by Carrie Mann
394
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He is one of the influencers in the carnivore space
395
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And yeah, they reached out to us
396
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And so we'll be doing that interview in May
397
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They're going to come to our studio here
398
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And we'll do
399
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I think we're doing
400
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It'll be a video
401
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It's moving
402
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More early June
403
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Because of that weekend in May
404
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We're going to Nashville
405
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Right
406
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So it's right on the edge there
407
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On the edge there
408
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Yeah
409
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So anyway
410
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Super excited about that
411
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And excited because
412
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This has been a game changer for our health
413
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Yes
414
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So what did we eat last night?
415
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I mean, this is crazy
416
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So we had the double burger with bacon
417
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Avocado
418
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We did do a little avocado
419
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Which is not carnivore
420
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Just to add a little fat
421
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I don't mind having good fat
422
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Every once in a while like that
423
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I just had like a slice
424
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It was tiny
425
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But anyway
426
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We did that
427
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And so you'd think
428
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Wow, that was a big meal
429
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So we get home
430
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Oh my goodness
431
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For dinner
432
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I did two Chuck-Eye steaks
433
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And two New York strips
434
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Two New York strips
435
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I mean it completely covered the platter
436
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And we ate almost all of that
437
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We did
438
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Or did we eat all of it?
439
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Yeah, there was some fat on it
440
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That you didn't eat
441
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But man
442
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I was in carnivore heaven
443
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Yes
444
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But what does that do for our body?
445
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It's jet fuel for our body
446
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And when your body only has to process one food
447
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What?
448
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Nothing
449
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Keep going
450
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When your body only has to process one food
451
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I mean it's
452
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It's just so much better for you
453
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You have energy
454
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Yeah, it doesn't take you out
455
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So anyway
456
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Carvajalini is going great
457
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And so yeah
458
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It's always fun telling people about it
459
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They always look at you like
460
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What?
461
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You mean you can't
462
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No sugar
463
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You don't have dessert
464
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Oh well
465
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What about wine?
466
00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,000
Everybody wants to know
467
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Everybody wants to know
468
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What about wine?
469
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Can you have wine?
470
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You have a brood every once in a while
471
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Something that's
472
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A little champagne maybe
473
00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,000
That's non-sugar
474
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Just not every
475
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Just not regular
476
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Yeah, not regular
477
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Yeah, just enjoy it
478
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It's actually better when you have space in between
479
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Right
480
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Anyway
481
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So yeah
482
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So man
483
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God has been up to some cool stuff
484
00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,000
The waves of revival are really starting to happen
485
00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,000
We're seeing massive growth in our church
486
00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,000
We're seeing doors open up
487
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We already talked about going to three services
488
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Which has been exhausting
489
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Okay
490
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So we didn't know how exhausting this was going to be
491
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And on Sunday
492
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Mentally
493
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Mentally
494
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Mentally
495
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It's more mentally than physical
496
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Because when we were driving off
497
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You said I am exhausted
498
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I actually felt good on Sunday
499
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Well I think it's just all the people that were meeting
500
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And ministering too in between services
501
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And it was
502
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Yes, I was
503
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I took a nap
504
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You didn't
505
00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,000
You were wiped out
506
00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,000
I fell asleep
507
00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,000
We just turned on an HGTV show
508
00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,000
And literally within minutes I was out
509
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You were gone
510
00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,000
I just, yeah
511
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It's more exhausting than I thought it would be
512
00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,000
So I started a new series this Sunday called Mind Wars
513
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Winning the Battle of the Mind
514
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And I'm telling you that
515
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That was a hard hitter for people because
516
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People don't really stop to think about
517
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What they're thinking about
518
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And it's a quote from Pastor Steve Berger
519
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From Tennessee who said, this is years ago
520
00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,000
He said we have to start thinking about what we're thinking about
521
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Have you ever thought about that?
522
00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,000
Wow
523
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I mean really
524
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Well yes
525
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Just because
526
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I mean we've talked about this so much
527
00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,000
About the battlefield that's in between our ears
528
00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,000
And that's in our mind
529
00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,000
And how it can affect every area of our life
530
00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,000
There was a book written in 1995
531
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Do you know who wrote that book?
532
00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,000
Yes, oh yeah
533
00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,000
Joyce Meyer, Battlefield of the Mind
534
00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,000
The Battlefield of the Mind
535
00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,000
That was a huge book for us
536
00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,000
Yes it was
537
00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,000
And I think that was one of her earlier big books
538
00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,000
Oh yeah
539
00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,000
But to me one of her best
540
00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,000
And it talks about the war
541
00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,000
The assault on our minds that's coming at us
542
00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,000
When you think about
543
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I mean if you listen to No Agenda
544
00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,000
Which a lot of our friends here are No Agenda listeners
545
00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,000
No Agenda is a fantastic podcast by Adam Curry and John Dvorak
546
00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,000
About they do media deconstruction
547
00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,000
And so if you listen to them
548
00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,000
You will begin to really see patterns that
549
00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,000
What we're being fed by mainstream media is a load
550
00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,000
It's just not
551
00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,000
There's little to no truth
552
00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,000
Or it's twisted or warped truth
553
00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,000
Or it's their version of what they want us to hear
554
00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,000
Exactly
555
00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,000
And so there's an assault on our mind on a regular basis
556
00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,000
Whether it's through that thing you hold in your hand
557
00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,000
Called a phone
558
00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,000
Or your tablet or your whatever
559
00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,000
You know your computer
560
00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,000
That's coming at us all the time
561
00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,000
Commercials on TV
562
00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:09,000
I mean everything is designed to capture your mind
563
00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,000
And yet we
564
00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,000
The Bible says we've been given the mind of Christ
565
00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,000
And so at some point we have to say
566
00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,000
Am I going to become the gatekeeper or the guardian of my mind
567
00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,000
Or am I just going to be passive
568
00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,000
And let down my guard and let everything come into me
569
00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,000
That wants to come into me
570
00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,000
And people don't think about that
571
00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,000
We don't think about what we're thinking about
572
00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,000
Because what was the term that we used to say a lot
573
00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,000
When we watched a lot of TV
574
00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,000
We'd say I just need to vege
575
00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:44,000
As though we could watch this passively
576
00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,000
And not let it affect us
577
00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,000
Yes
578
00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,000
Well I remember when we were watching TV
579
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Things started getting worse and worse and worse
580
00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,000
And finally if you'll remember
581
00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,000
One time I decided
582
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Let's start fast forwarding through these parts
583
00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000
So 15, 20 years ago
584
00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,000
You didn't really think about it that much
585
00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,000
We didn't have the capability of doing that for one
586
00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,000
We didn't have DVR, that's right
587
00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,000
But now with everything
588
00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,000
It's gotten so much worse
589
00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,000
What dawned on us one day is that we were fast forwarding through
590
00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,000
More of the show than we were watching
591
00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,000
And I was like, okay, there's a tipping point here
592
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Where it's ridiculous
593
00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,000
Because the premise of the shows has changed so much
594
00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,000
And there's so much violence out there
595
00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,000
And for me, because I like justice
596
00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:35,000
I like shows, dramas, real life shows
597
00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,000
I like the datelines and all that
598
00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,000
I really like that
599
00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,000
Because I like to see how it gets solved
600
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I like to solve it while I'm watching it play out
601
00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,000
Honestly, I could have been an investigator
602
00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,000
Oh, you are an investigator
603
00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000
If I need somebody's cyber stock
604
00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000
I'd just say, Daymanette
605
00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,000
Could you go check out
606
00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,000
As a profession, I really could have gone into that
607
00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,000
Because I, or forensic science or anything like that
608
00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,000
Because I enjoy that
609
00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,000
But what it was doing to my mind and my emotions
610
00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,000
It was causing fear, too much fear
611
00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,000
So give some examples of how that manifested in our daily life
612
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The fear that you're talking about coming in
613
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I would, you know, as soon as it started to get dusk
614
00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,000
I would say, we've got to shut all the blinds
615
00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:30,000
And I was just constantly thinking about people lurking outside
616
00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,000
There was just so much fear that just entered my heart
617
00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,000
And it was devastating
618
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I remember you would be like
619
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Dreams, bad dreams
620
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Bad dreams, you have horrible dreams
621
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And then you'd say things to me like
622
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Did you check the doors?
623
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Did you check the doors? And it got to be
624
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,000
At first it was kind of like
625
00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,000
Oh, honey, I got this, I got this
626
00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,000
But then I noticed it moved more obsessive
627
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,000
To where it was like
628
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,000
You were paranoid about it
629
00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,000
Well, there were times when the garage door didn't get shut
630
00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,000
So obviously that can
631
00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,000
And then we didn't lock the back door
632
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,000
But it got obsession
633
00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,000
It became an obsession
634
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,000
That's understandable
635
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,000
And that's when I finally said
636
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,000
We need to do something about this
637
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000
So in terms of the battlefield of the mind
638
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,000
And these mind wars
639
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,000
How has that impacted you from some of the trauma
640
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,000
That you experienced as a child and as an adult?
641
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:25,000
How have those things play into the mind?
642
00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:31,000
Well, for one, I have to change the way I viewed what happened to me
643
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,000
Oh, good
644
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:38,000
Because if I view it as just violence
645
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,000
And I don't see the compassion that God actually had
646
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,000
While I was in that situation
647
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:51,000
Or the compassion he had for the people that were the victimizers
648
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,000
It was when I did change my view of contempt
649
00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:01,000
For my family members or an ex-husband
650
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:06,000
To compassion because there is something that had to have happened
651
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:12,000
To them, to get them to the place where violence was caused on us
652
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,000
And havoc was reaped
653
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:21,000
How did things that were said to you by what I would call perpetrators
654
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:26,000
Things that were said to you by someone that you should have been coming from love
655
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,000
Someone that you could trust, that you were safe with, that you were loved
656
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:34,000
How did what you were called, what you were told, or what was done to you
657
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000
How did it impact you in your mind, in your thinking?
658
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,000
It devastated me at the time and for many years
659
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,000
I remember I was at a movie theater
660
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And I was there with my ex and another couple
661
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And we were sitting there waiting for the movie to begin
662
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:58,000
And the wife made a comment to me in front of everyone about my weight
663
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,000
She said, oh my gosh, you're so thin and you look so good
664
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:07,000
And my ex made a comment that stuck with me to this day
665
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:13,000
And this was, I was probably, I would say 18, 19 years of age
666
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:18,000
And he said, well, when she takes off her clothes, it just, it all falls out
667
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,000
So basically she's hiding her weight
668
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,000
And it, I mean I was probably all of maybe 105 pounds
669
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,000
Oh wow
670
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,000
Yeah, I was never that big at that time
671
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,000
That's where you are now
672
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,000
Oh, I'm not far off
673
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,000
You're real close
674
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,000
Not far off
675
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,000
You're real close
676
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:41,000
But anyway, but the thing is, is it affected me for years upon years upon years
677
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,000
And you know, Tina talks about it on her podcast about body dysmorphia
678
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,000
Boy, did I ever have that because of what he said
679
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,000
Those words
680
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,000
You and millions of other women
681
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,000
Yes
682
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,000
I know, it's so devastating
683
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,000
It was devastating
684
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:59,000
And I had to get to the point where I could be comfortable with myself
685
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,000
At a larger weight, which I've never
686
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,000
I don't think any women, any woman is really comfortable with themself
687
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,000
I don't know if we ever really get comfortable
688
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,000
Or content
689
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,000
Or content
690
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:17,000
Because we, magazines, TV, the media has just really
691
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,000
Porn
692
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,000
Yes, porn
693
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,000
All of that
694
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,000
It's played mind games with us and we feel like we're never perfect enough
695
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:30,000
But those words coming from a man who supposedly loved me and cherished me
696
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000
Just devastated me
697
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:37,000
And it really wasn't until I began a really stronger walk in the Lord
698
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,000
Where I was mature enough to brush it off
699
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,000
I mean, I still remember it, but the pain of it's not there
700
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,000
And then I marry you and you just say the opposite
701
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,000
Of course, you've never said a mean thing to me in 31 years
702
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,000
Can I park it right here?
703
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,000
Yes
704
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,000
I'm going to segue a little bit
705
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,000
Okay
706
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,000
How did these mind games, these head games
707
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,000
These negative, stinking, thinking, the zig-zag they used to say
708
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,000
How did all that play into our early years of marriage?
709
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:11,000
Because one of the things we wanted to mention and talk about was the power of intimacy
710
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,000
So I'm thinking about how the role that the mind plays in intimacy
711
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:20,000
So share an example of, do you remember the night we were in bed?
712
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,000
Like right after we got married
713
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,000
Is this going to be R rated or G rated?
714
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,000
No, this is safe, safe TV, safe podcasting
715
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,000
So no, it was the night that you accidentally hit me
716
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,000
Yes
717
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,000
And what did you do?
718
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000
Well, I
719
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,000
You rolled over or something and bumped me
720
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,000
No, I did, it was something by accident
721
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:48,000
And literally I pulled my arms up as if I was trying to protect myself from what you were about to do to me
722
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,000
I know
723
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,000
I would have done that even on accident to my ex
724
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,000
He would have
725
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,000
So you had a Pavlov's reaction
726
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,000
Yes, and he did too
727
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:05,000
That was so sad because he didn't think you don't hurt a woman or anybody
728
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,000
But he reacted
729
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,000
But obviously he had something going on
730
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,000
And we're not here to slam our exes or anything like that
731
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,000
This is reality
732
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:18,000
But what I'm saying is I'm sure it was something from his own childhood that caused him to become that way
733
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,000
I've thought about that a lot
734
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:24,000
Yeah, I mean people don't just overnight become evil or mean or
735
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,000
Reactive
736
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,000
Reactive
737
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,000
Raging
738
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,000
There is something that causes that
739
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,000
Well, I remember that night because I looked at you and I said, what are you doing?
740
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,000
And I said, you're not going to hit me back or hurt me?
741
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,000
And you were like, what?
742
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,000
Yeah, that was like days into our marriage
743
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000
And I was like, of course not
744
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000
That would never even enter my mind
745
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,000
It was an accident
746
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:51,000
But the fact, so thinking about head games, thinking about how the mind works
747
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:57,000
We realized very quickly in our new marriage that we have some things to overcome
748
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,000
And it took us a couple of years
749
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,000
For one, I didn't trust you
750
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,000
Because I had no reason
751
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,000
Because I was a scoundrel
752
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,000
To trust anybody after what I'd been through, you were not
753
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000
But I didn't have, I mean
754
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,000
Because of growing up with my father, growing up with my ex
755
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:20,000
Men in my life, I always had issues everywhere I worked
756
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:25,000
It was like I had a symbol on my forehead that says victim
757
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:30,000
Victimize her because she can take it, you know, kind of thing
758
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,000
And it was hard because I was always
759
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,000
Well, in a very real sense, you were beat down emotionally
760
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,000
Not physically necessarily, some of that
761
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:44,000
But mostly you were emotionally and psychologically beat down
762
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000
To the point where when we came together
763
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,000
And I realized very quickly, you were very open with me too
764
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,000
Our conversations were straight up
765
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,000
You needed to know what you were getting yourself into
766
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000
And you know what, I knew that
767
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,000
I weighed the cost, so to speak
768
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,000
I'm like, there's gold in those hills
769
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,000
I saw you, I'm like, there is gold in there
770
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:12,000
How Jesus sees us, which you saw the perfection in me
771
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,000
That's how Jesus, he doesn't see the sin
772
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,000
He sees us perfected, he sees us whole
773
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000
I can tell you where it happened
774
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,000
Where?
775
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,000
It was when Tony Gibson was leading worship
776
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,000
At Indiana Avenue Baptist Church on an evening
777
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,000
And I saw tears rolling down your cheeks during worship
778
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,000
So you knew there was a tenderness there
779
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,000
I was done, that was it
780
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,000
That was all I needed to know
781
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,000
But you didn't know what you were getting yourself into
782
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,000
My attitude was, that's all I need to know
783
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000
The rest is negotiable
784
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,000
We'll navigate life together
785
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,000
And I was all in, I was in from that moment forward
786
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,000
But a lot of things were hard for me
787
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:53,000
Because of, you know, your past can really dictate your future
788
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,000
There you go, there's the head games again, right?
789
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,000
This is the mind thing
790
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,000
And so when you go into your future
791
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,000
You're always looking back at what has happened to you
792
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,000
What's reoccurring
793
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,000
True
794
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,000
And you can tend to stay in those same patterns
795
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,000
Or you can get a new mindset
796
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,000
Which Romans 12, 2 says, change the way you think
797
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,000
Be transformed by changing the way you think
798
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,000
Yes, and so I had to get to that point
799
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:27,000
Where I had to allow the Lord to change my stinking thinking
800
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,000
To what you want from me as a husband and as a wife
801
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:37,000
What you want from us is true intimacy, true love
802
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,000
Safe love
803
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000
Where it's safe, you're not going to
804
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000
We're not name calling
805
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:49,000
We're not forcing one another to partake in intimacy
806
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,000
At the wrong time
807
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,000
Or you know what I'm saying?
808
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:59,000
And so that was a learning process based on what my whole past was
809
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,000
So how did having those mind battles, those mind games
810
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,000
How did it impact your capacity for intimacy?
811
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,000
I mean you had it, it was there, you wanted to be loved
812
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,000
You wanted to love
813
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,000
You know it's a desire
814
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,000
But you struggled, there was a wall
815
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,000
I did, it's an innate desire to be loved
816
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,000
Absolutely
817
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,000
But then you've got that distrust
818
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,000
You're so afraid to allow yourself to let go
819
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,000
It's going to happen again
820
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,000
Yes
821
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,000
I'm going to get betrayed
822
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,000
Yes
823
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,000
I'm going to get hurt
824
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,000
Absolutely
825
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,000
And so we build up these walls and this resistance to the very thing we need
826
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,000
Which is love and connection
827
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,000
And to feel safe with one another
828
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000
But you know what? I struggle too
829
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,000
I mean you talk about me like you married the perfect guy
830
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,000
I didn't, you married a guy who was damaged
831
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,000
I was hurt
832
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,000
I never saw that kind of damage
833
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,000
Well not the same kind of damage
834
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,000
I'm a dude too
835
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,000
So being a man, it's a different level of impact
836
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,000
And maybe it manifests in different ways
837
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,000
But I always kept this attachment-detachment thing
838
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000
Where I was attached but I was detached
839
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,000
And again of course I was the oldest son
840
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,000
I got all this kid syndrome
841
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000
I'm pretty independent by nature
842
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:21,000
Then you factor in that, that my first wife left me
843
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,000
Right
844
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,000
High and dry
845
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,000
Which I thanked her for
846
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,000
Because I can't understand that
847
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,000
It so wounded me though
848
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,000
And I just felt completely worthless and rejected
849
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,000
That's where I was like how can she leave this man who is
850
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,000
I mean okay you're not perfect, perfect
851
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,000
But you're as close as anyone I've ever known in my life
852
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000
About to turn this microphone off
853
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,000
I love you so much
854
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,000
We do have the door shut
855
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,000
And locked
856
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,000
And locked
857
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,000
But we're at the church
858
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,000
We've got a lot happening
859
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,000
That would be kind of weird
860
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,000
There's so much going on right now
861
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,000
You'll probably hear stuff
862
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,000
But honestly for me
863
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:02,000
When I'm contrasting you with past men in my life
864
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,000
You were perfect
865
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,000
So for me it was even hard for me to live up to that
866
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,000
They made it easy for me to be truthful
867
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,000
I mean because you had had a run of bad things
868
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,000
The enemy, by the way
869
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,000
There's a very real enemy
870
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,000
Friends, family, listeners
871
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,000
There's a real enemy
872
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,000
The enemy of your soul
873
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000
And he wants you dead
874
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000
He wants you marginalized
875
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,000
He wants you ineffective for the kingdom of God
876
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,000
And so Annette, Dame Annette
877
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,000
You had had so many hits
878
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,000
So many attacks
879
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,000
It's because the enemy knows the potential that's in you
880
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000
And that if you were ever to discover it
881
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000
It would be Katie bar the door on the things of the kingdom
882
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,000
So the enemy tries to devastate, destroy, kill, steal, and destroy
883
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,000
John 10, 10
884
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,000
The enemy comes except to kill, steal, and destroy
885
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,000
Jesus said, I came down
886
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,000
You might have life and have it to the full
887
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,000
More abundant
888
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,000
So we know that to be true
889
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,000
So all of you right now that feel like your life has been one
890
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,000
One devastating moment after another
891
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,000
One trauma after another
892
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,000
One let down
893
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,000
One disappointment
894
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,000
One discouragement after another
895
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,000
Let me tell you something
896
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,000
The higher the capacity of potential in your life
897
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,000
To make a difference in this world for Jesus
898
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,000
And for the kingdom of God
899
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,000
The higher your capacity and potential
900
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,000
The more the enemy tries to destroy you
901
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,000
That is absolutely true
902
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000
Before you ever realize that potential
903
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,000
There's the mind war
904
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,000
And that's why you have to stay in the word
905
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,000
And you have to let the word work in your life
906
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,000
There you go
907
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,000
You don't read the word and then walk away and forget it
908
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000
It's like looking in the mirror and forgetting what you look like
909
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,000
When you walk out
910
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,000
Bring out the book
911
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:47,000
Yes, you've got to allow that word to permeate in your heart
912
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000
So that you can walk it out
913
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,000
I love the book of James
914
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000
It says, don't be hearers only
915
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,000
Be doers of the word
916
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,000
And so you have to
917
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,000
You can't allow those things from the past
918
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,000
To hinder you from your future
919
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,000
He has a beautiful future for you
920
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,000
You just have to cooperate
921
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,000
That grace movement that says you don't have to do anything is wrong
922
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,000
We have to cooperate
923
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,000
That takes work to do that
924
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,000
We have to do something that some people don't like to use this word anymore
925
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,000
Obey
926
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,000
Obey, yes
927
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:24,000
We read what God says and we do what we're supposed to do
928
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,000
I mean it's really so simple we miss it
929
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,000
But in this world and culture we've been trained to resist
930
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,000
Anything that's telling us what to do
931
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,000
And it's getting worse
932
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000
Oh, the resistance is strong
933
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,000
Which means we have to get stronger
934
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000
Yeah, I love that
935
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,000
And the only way to get strong is to get into the meat of the word
936
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,000
And become mature believers, not immature
937
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,000
Or unbelieving believers
938
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,000
I think that's one of the things we heard from Joyce Meyer years ago
939
00:32:54,000 --> 00:33:00,000
There's too many unbelieving believers and we need to be believers of the word
940
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,000
And that means every aspect of the Bible
941
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,000
So can I quote Romans 12, too?
942
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,000
And do not be conformed to this world
943
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,000
That word conform means to be pressed into that shape
944
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,000
To conform, to become the form of what's being pressed
945
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,000
So do not be pressed, conformed to this world
946
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,000
But be transformed
947
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,000
That means to change your shape, the way you look, the way you act
948
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,000
Everything about you is changed, transformed
949
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000
Transformers
950
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:35,000
So do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind
951
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,000
By changing the way you think
952
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,000
Now let's fast forward
953
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,000
I think we should go back and talk about our first year of marriage
954
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000
And some of the terrible foibles
955
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,000
I know it got hard
956
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000
But let's fast forward to now
957
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,000
Because it's my birthday
958
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,000
Did I mention that earlier?
959
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,000
So I'm 62 years young
960
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,000
It is just a number
961
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,000
I've never felt better in my life
962
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000
I feel more alive than I've ever felt
963
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,000
I'm more excited about
964
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,000
I wake up so early in the morning
965
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,000
Not because I'm getting older
966
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,000
It's because I can't wait to get up
967
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,000
You have that outlook on life
968
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,000
Which you literally...
969
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,000
Living up in a down world
970
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,000
You're like, I don't want to go to sleep because I'm going to miss something
971
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,000
And I can't wait to wake up because I don't want to miss anything
972
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,000
FOMO, yeah, hashtag FOMO
973
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,000
Fear of missing out
974
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,000
Yes
975
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,000
But it's because I'm so thankful
976
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,000
So let's fast forward to now
977
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,000
We were talking about this today
978
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,000
So I don't know, for you married folks
979
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,000
Do you all have conversations in the bathroom when you're getting ready in the morning?
980
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,000
Everybody does
981
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,000
I'm in the shower yelling over the shower
982
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,000
You got your blow dryer going
983
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,000
We're yelling at each other like, hey, I think God's saying
984
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,000
Or hey, what do you want to talk about on the podcast today?
985
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,000
Or hey, what about, you know, we're just talking about
986
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,000
You got to get a car like that
987
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,000
All that stuff, you know
988
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,000
Life happens in the bathroom, in the kitchen, right?
989
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,000
Right
990
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,000
And so we're in there
991
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,000
And we're chatting back and forth
992
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,000
And I was just talking to you
993
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,000
And I was just saying
994
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,000
How much, how grateful I am for us
995
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:59,000
And how 31 years later, two marriages later
996
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:04,000
A lot of pain, a lot of struggle, a lot of misfires, a lot of bad choices
997
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,000
And yet today to look at our lives
998
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,000
I cannot help but just be grateful
999
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000
And so I'm yelling at you over the shower
1000
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,000
And you've got the hairdryer going
1001
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000
And I'm saying, I love you so much
1002
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:23,000
And I've never ever in my life had the ability to be as intimate, open, and free
1003
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,000
And safe as I am with you
1004
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,000
Never
1005
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,000
And it took years to get to that point for both of us
1006
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,000
I know
1007
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,000
And the reason I felt like that's important to say
1008
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,000
Is because some people think, gosh, I've been married five years
1009
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,000
I thought it'd be easier by now
1010
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,000
Or they hit that seven year, that seven year boy
1011
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,000
Seven year itch or whatever you call it
1012
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,000
Yeah, they call it seven year itch
1013
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,000
But really there is something about that year seven
1014
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,000
Whether it's in a job or where you live
1015
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,000
Or the house you're in or the car you own
1016
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,000
Or the people in your life
1017
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,000
There is something about the number seven and the year seven
1018
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,000
Which is transitory
1019
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,000
I mean it can be a real
1020
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,000
You almost have to press through it
1021
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000
It either makes or breaks you
1022
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,000
And a lot of marriages end at seven years
1023
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,000
There's just a switch
1024
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,000
That's true
1025
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,000
And a lot of people quit their jobs after seven years
1026
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,000
Or they move after seven
1027
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,000
There's just something to that seven year transition period
1028
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,000
Oh wait, is that a bad word to use nowadays?
1029
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,000
Have we ruined the word transition?
1030
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,000
No, no
1031
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,000
So anyway, I don't want to get off on the politics thing
1032
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,000
But anyway, all that to say is
1033
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,000
It was hitting me because I'm thinking
1034
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,000
Hey, it's my birthday today
1035
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,000
I mentioned that
1036
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,000
So I was in the shower thinking about my birthday
1037
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,000
Going, Kylie, 62
1038
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,000
And you were like, what are the things I want to do
1039
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,000
That are my favorite things to do today?
1040
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,000
Yeah, and I said
1041
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000
And you said, I want to do a podcast
1042
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,000
I want to do my podcast
1043
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000
And I want to hang around with my wife
1044
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,000
I want to be with my best friend
1045
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,000
And the person that I'm closest to on planet earth
1046
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,000
But then you set up lunch with someone else
1047
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,000
Hey, you told me to do that
1048
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,000
I know
1049
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,000
You said go for it
1050
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,000
Because I've been trying to get lunch
1051
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,000
But then you canceled because you're like
1052
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,000
I canceled because I'm out
1053
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,000
I can't do it
1054
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,000
I really want to spend time with you
1055
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,000
I do, and it's just time
1056
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,000
And this is important to me
1057
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,000
But I want to
1058
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,000
So you share a little bit from your perspective
1059
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,000
How different it is now
1060
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,000
And how it was when it began 31 years ago
1061
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:18,000
As we age and get closer to one another
1062
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,000
And that intimacy begins to grow
1063
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,000
I had no idea that your love could grow even more
1064
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,000
There it is
1065
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,000
You nailed it
1066
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,000
Man, I thought
1067
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,000
This is what I've heard from people
1068
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,000
I didn't think this
1069
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,000
But I did hear this
1070
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,000
And it's like, how can you be with the same person all your life?
1071
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,000
Aren't you going to get tired of that person?
1072
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,000
Yeah, I've heard it too
1073
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,000
No, because when it's true love, it grows
1074
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,000
Yeah, it's like carnivore
1075
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,000
Aren't you tired of meat?
1076
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,000
Aren't you tired of steak?
1077
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,000
People say that
1078
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,000
And I'm like, no, I can't wait for my next steak
1079
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,000
I know, it's a terrible metaphor
1080
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,000
It is, but it's true
1081
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,000
Because that's the number one thing people say
1082
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,000
Are you tired of eating the same thing?
1083
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,000
It's like that Huey Lewis and the new song
1084
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,000
What?
1085
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,000
The Power of Love
1086
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000
Oh, yes, now I do remember that song
1087
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,000
But yeah, it's true
1088
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,000
But you're right
1089
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:17,000
But the intimacy, the trust, the safety
1090
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,000
You know me more than anyone else in this world could ever know me
1091
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,000
And you know every flaw in my vocabulary of flaws
1092
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,000
You are so funny
1093
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,000
You always talk about flaws
1094
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,000
It's true though
1095
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,000
You don't have very many flaws
1096
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,000
Every flaw I have is there
1097
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,000
Well, I know everything about you
1098
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,000
You know everything about me
1099
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,000
And really, and we learn more as we grow
1100
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,000
It's interesting, after 31 years and the age we're at
1101
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,000
We're still in discovery mode
1102
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,000
When I hear people that have been married 50 years, 60 years
1103
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:52,000
It's just like, wow, that is just amazing to me
1104
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,000
And how close they can still be
1105
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,000
So can I throw a question out?
1106
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,000
Yes
1107
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,000
So if someone was to say
1108
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,000
Well, it's so easy for you guys
1109
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,000
Y'all don't have to work at it
1110
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,000
What would you say?
1111
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,000
As you bump the table
1112
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,000
No, sorry, I'm bumping the table
1113
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,000
There's still work because everything takes work
1114
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,000
What does work look like?
1115
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,000
Work is effort
1116
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,000
So what does it look like?
1117
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,000
Effort to prefer the other one over yourself
1118
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,000
To ask the other one
1119
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,000
Can I get you a drink while I'm up getting myself one?
1120
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,000
There's work
1121
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,000
Sometimes you don't feel like being intimate
1122
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,000
And you have to lay that down
1123
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:41,000
And allow things to take place to where you can become intimate too
1124
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,000
I mean, there's things that work
1125
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,000
It takes effort
1126
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,000
Marriage, two people, it takes effort
1127
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,000
So there is an ROI on this, right?
1128
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,000
Return on investment
1129
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,000
Yes
1130
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,000
We have to sow into each other
1131
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,000
Another person in order to reap something
1132
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,000
And we don't do it so that we can
1133
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,000
That's the byproduct
1134
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,000
That's the blessing of a blessed marriage
1135
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,000
Is that the work we put into it, there's always a return on it
1136
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,000
It's always a return
1137
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,000
The ROI is there
1138
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000
And we want to encourage you
1139
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,000
Because I know we've had rocky points in our marriage
1140
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,000
Where we grew distant
1141
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,000
Especially when it came to raising children
1142
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,000
That is the hardest thing in the world to do
1143
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,000
If there is ever a stressor on the planet
1144
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,000
That can come between you and you don't even realize it
1145
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000
Because your thought is
1146
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,000
My children in this season of their life
1147
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,000
We won't have them forever
1148
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,000
They're the most important thing in my life
1149
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,000
And I disagree
1150
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000
And we had to learn this the hard way
1151
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,000
What was more important is that our children saw us valuing each other
1152
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:49,000
So that when they someday find their mates, their spouse
1153
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:54,000
That they will treat their spouse with the same dignity, respect, and honor
1154
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,000
That they saw us do
1155
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,000
And they saw that in us
1156
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:04,000
And that was brought up many times how much they saw the love in us
1157
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,000
And so that carried on in their own lives
1158
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,000
Our son in love, Mark, who lives in Tennessee
1159
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,000
He's married to our oldest daughter Alicia
1160
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,000
He wrote us this week and said, you're my heroes
1161
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:19,000
And he wrote the most beautiful thing about you when he saw your testimony
1162
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:26,000
And when your son in law doesn't look at you as the weird in-laws that are nosy
1163
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,000
And in their business, but actually says you're my heroes
1164
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,000
Because of your marriage and because of your life and your walk with Jesus
1165
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,000
That's huge
1166
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,000
That's not to brag on us
1167
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:40,000
It's just we learned the hard way that we have to put in the work
1168
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,000
And we have to put in the work
1169
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,000
It's work
1170
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,000
And it's worth it
1171
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,000
And the first couple of years was really tough
1172
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,000
Because I brought in teenagers into our marriage
1173
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,000
Yeah, I started with teenagers
1174
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:58,000
I wasn't doing like, you know, scooping poop off a baby and cleaning things up
1175
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,000
Getting the white stuff off my collar and my shirt
1176
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,000
It was hard
1177
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,000
No, it was like...
1178
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,000
And the rebelliousness that was there
1179
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,000
Well, they were hurt, they were damaged
1180
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,000
They were
1181
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:13,000
And it took me years to even understand the ramifications of what took place
1182
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,000
Yeah, totally makes sense
1183
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,000
But it's all good now, thank God
1184
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,000
And God is good
1185
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,000
Our kids are thriving right now
1186
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:26,000
Even in the middle of the worst times we had, we never let go of God
1187
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,000
If anything, we turned more to God
1188
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,000
Yeah
1189
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:34,000
And too many people, things are going so well, they don't need God
1190
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,000
Tina and I were talking about that the other day
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How many people don't need God
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Wow
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And so they live their lives for themselves
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So they think
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Yes
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And they're miserable
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They may have all the wealth and material things and everything they want
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But they're missing that one element
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And literally that's what brought my mom to her knees when she found Christ
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Was she had the wealth, she had all the material things she could want
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Right
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But she was empty
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Now she had a horrific husband
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But in spite of that, she was able to thrive in other areas
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Never had to work
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Other areas of her life
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But boy, was she ever empty and she found Jesus
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And so when my dad passed away, she never even remarried
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Because Jesus was enough for her
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And I loved that
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She didn't even have the desire
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She could have, she lived another what 21, 22 years
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But she said, I don't need that
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Jesus is enough
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And I would say this in terms of our intimacy
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The reason why we have been able to press past the pain, the trauma, divorces
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Everything we've been through, rejection, whatever the list goes on, failure, all that
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Is because of our walk with God
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Because of our walk with Jesus and the Holy Spirit
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Leading us, being our helper, being our intercessor, our advocate
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And every day pressing into that
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Because you and I both, we have a rhythm
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We both get up
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I get up a little earlier than you
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You're getting up earlier and earlier
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And then we, you go to your room
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I go to my man cave, you go to your she cave
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And you get in the Word, and I get in the Word
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And then as we're getting ready, things come out
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We start talking about it
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What did you get? What do you listen to?
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What's speaking to you?
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It always comes out in our conversation
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Whether while we're cooking, while we're driving to the office, whatever
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And then we do that life together
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And so, people who are newer to the faith
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Are trying to figure out, well, so do you do a devotional together?
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Sometimes we do, sometimes we don't
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Sometimes we don't
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It just depends
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It depends
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Different seasons
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And right now we're not doing anything
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And I don't think you always have to
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I don't either
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I think you do what's right for you at that time
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And sometimes, you know, we'll go, you know what?
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Let's do this one together
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And we'll do it
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We did two years of the whole Bible together
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We did, yeah, it was awesome
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And then we decided, let's just do some different things
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And what I love about it is we're always sharing together out of our experience
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And so, that intimacy with Jesus, that intimacy with God and the Holy Spirit
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It literally spills over and paves the way for us to have intimacy with one another
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Absolutely
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And I think without that, I can't even imagine doing life without that
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I know, I can't either
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Because what it does, it gives us a singular focus
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We're on the same page, we're going the same direction
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But I know also there's people listening whose spouse is not on the same page
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So what would we say to them in terms of what they're struggling with and their walk with God?
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How does that flesh out?
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Keep your faith, keep your faith
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Keep praying for your spouse
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I mean, we prayed for my dad for so many years
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We didn't see it as soon as we wanted to
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But boy, it came to fruition right before his death
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Right at the end, my goodness
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And we didn't know he was going to die two weeks later
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He didn't know he was going to die two weeks later
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But don't give up, but allow Jesus to be that lover in your life
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And too, if you're in a relationship where you're not getting support spiritually from your spouse
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And you want that, you desire that, you want to be on the same page
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Don't give up
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Don't give up
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Never give up
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Stay the course
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Those three words, stay the course, I would say is one of the clearest words from God I've ever heard in my life
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And I use it daily
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Stay the course
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And pray for them
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Can you imagine the impact if believers, believing believers prayed for the people that they're frustrated with or they're disconnected from
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If they prayed for their spouse as much as they put energy into other things
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Can you imagine the difference?
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Can you imagine the difference if we prayed for our president that he would be saved and transformed by Jesus
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As much as we criticize and judge and write post memes about him
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Can you imagine the difference that could make?
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But I say that about our spouse
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In my first marriage, I believed, I thought we would be okay
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I thought we could make it and we'd been married 10 years
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She walked away
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She walked away, I was all in, I was not going to walk away
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Even though it was hard, I was like, no, no, I'm not quitting, I didn't quit
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And I want to encourage you if you're in a hard situation
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Unless there's abuse
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Unless there's abuse, and there I would get counsel from a trusted pastor or trusted counselor
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Not necessarily your friends because they're all going to just pat you on the back
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But people who can speak truth into your life, I would definitely do that
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But if there's not that in it, I would encourage you to pray, pray, stand, believe
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Treat them with the honor and respect that you would like for them to treat you with
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Don't bash them over the head with the Bible
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Don't try to drag them to church
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Don't try to, don't go where you're not invited
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That's just one of my life mottoes
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Don't go where you're not invited
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I noticed you're looking at your watch, you think you're going to land the plane on this?
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First of all, we've got some thank yous to say
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And I, man, can I share scripture right before we do it?
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Because this scripture, really, I wanted to share at the beginning, but there wasn't a place
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Proverbs 23 says this, 23, 7 says,
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For as a man thinks in his heart, so is he
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We've been talking about intimacy, we've been talking about the mind wars
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What's going on as a man thinks in his heart, which is the mind
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As a man thinks in his mind and his heart, so is he
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And so we want to encourage you to be transformed by the renewing of your mind
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That's at Romans 12 to by spending time in God's Word
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It will change your life
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And any way we can help you and encourage you to do that
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Feel free to write us an email, go to our website, livingupinadownworld.com
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There's a place where you can write us right there on the front page
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You can subscribe to our email list and we'll let you know a day in advance
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Or the same day sometimes that we're releasing a podcast
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And you can sign up for that, but you can also write us
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We love hearing from you
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It's life-giving, it's never a nuisance, don't ever feel like what you're sharing is too little or too much
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Just feel free to reach out, we want to hear from you because we're here to help
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And so we've got some beautiful thank yous to give out
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And I want to just, and just one other thing I want to just promote
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I want to say bridgefbg.com
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And you can watch or listen to all the messages that I've done over the years
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Bridgefbg.com right there on the front page
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Somebody else, another couple that we always want to talk about are our friends
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Our best friends Adam and Tina Curry
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Who had they not have encouraged us, we would not have a Living Up and a Down World podcast
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And so just such love from those guys and love doing life with them
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And they have a couple podcasts that I want to recommend
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One is No Agenda, and again that's with Adam and his friend John Dvorak
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Where they do media deconstruction, you can find that on any platform
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And man, my favorite all-time podcast, this is really how I got to know Adam and Tina
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Is Curry and the Keeper
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And check them out, Curry and the Keeper, they've got curryandthekeeper.com
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Or you can find them on any of your podcast platforms
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We recommend a value for value platform, Podcasting 2.0
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Things like Cast-O-Matic or Fountain
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Where you can actually boost and encourage value for value
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If this podcast is bringing value to you
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Then you can bring value back to us or to them or whoever you're listening to
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Through sharing, through giving
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And so that's our website, livingupandadownworld.com
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Also I do daily devotionals on there
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If you want a daily word, and they're hot off the press
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That's the first thing I do, I get up in the morning, get in the word
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And I write a devotional every day, I've done it for over 20 years now
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And so just click on the blog tab in livingupandadownworld.com
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And you'll see the daily divos every day, they're very short to the point
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There's always a graphic that I like to do with Scripture
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Just to encourage you
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And so if you want to get started on the Living Up and a Downworld Podcast episode
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All 51, after I upload this one
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All 51 episodes are right there, and you can do that
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And then be sure and sign up for our Living Up newsletter
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And pass this to other people
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If you know, have friends and family who would benefit from these conversations
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And us going there on some stuff, yeah, get it out there
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Definitely
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Oh, you just...
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No, I just said definitely
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You're supporting me, I love it
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Yes, yes
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I love it too, isn't it cool?
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I feel like there's a heavenly cloud over us
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We have this amazing drop light over us
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You should take a picture of it, put it in the newsletter
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I will, we'll do that in just a sec, this is very cool
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So anyway, I just got it put together, so I'm happy about it
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George Kirchner, another one of our favorites
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He's a member of our church
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He came up to me Sunday and just said
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Precious
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Talked about my video and how much he enjoyed it
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Listen to what he said, he wrote this in on our Living Up Podcast
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Or Living Up Down World Podcast website, there it is
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He says, this is for Annette
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Just finished watching the video of your testimony
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And I wanted to let you know how touched I was
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By the way, the Lord has worked in your life
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Because you were willing to invite him in
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I pray that this video gets spread around
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So that others can hear of God's goodness and love for us
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Thank you for being open and sharing a very hurtful time in your life
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Please rest assured that you will be blessed for your faithfulness
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In his name, George
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I love that
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He's a sweet man
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He is such an encourager
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They are precious
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We've got a boostagram from Sir T.J. The Raffle
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He's a big time Noah Jindiguy
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And an amazing musician as well with a striper boost
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That's 7,777 satoshis
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People have said, what are satoshis?
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It's a denomination of Bitcoin
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And on any of the Value for Value podcast 2.0 platforms
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You can actually send satoshis to say, hey, we value what you're doing
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And so, anyway, thank you, Sir T.J.
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He wrote this
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Hey, y'all, I've listened to every episode
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Love you both and your podcast
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I emailed you almost a year ago
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And Jimmy encouraged me to endure
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Which I'm determined to do more than ever
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As challenges seem to somehow get bigger
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I can't remember if I've boosted before
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So just wanted to send some value
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T-Y-F-Y-E-A-C
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Thank you for your encouragement and your courage
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Again, I love it
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We appreciate the striper boost
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And then, Annette, I don't know if you know this or not
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We've got a boostagram today from somebody called The Keeper
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Oh, wow!
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Isn't that cool?
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50,000 sats
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We love Tina Curry
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She's one of our dearest friends
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Our besties
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Besties, that's right
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She wrote Happy Birthday, Pastor Jimmy
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Adam and I love experiencing life with you
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And...I lost my place
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Life with you and Annette, my bad
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I was looking at something else
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And by the way, someone here is super happy
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That you're back to Recording Weekly
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Who could that be?
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Who could that be?
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Who would be happy about us recording again?
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Oh, Adam Curry
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And she says, KYBO
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KYBO
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Keep your bucket overflowing
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KYBO
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That leaky bucket
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Keep your bucket overflowing
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00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,000
That's so funny
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00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,000
It's so cheesy, but I love it
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Wow!
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Keep your bucket overflowing
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00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,000
Now we're turning into a variety show
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No, I know, here we go
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From David Wicker, I love David Wicker
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He wrote in, he also goes by Sir By His Grace
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He's a big No Agenda, a Kareen Keaper fan as well
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And a listener, and just a great guy
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Great brother in Christ
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He said, thank you for the plug
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Now what he's referring to, last week we plugged
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His wife's new effort, nonprofit
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Called Pushback for Liberty.com
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And that's Pushback for, with the number 4
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Liberty.com
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And what she's doing, she's just trying to equip parents
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About what's going on in our culture
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How they can take a stand, resources, links
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It's a new website that's up
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So we want to encourage you to go check out
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Pushbackforliberty.com
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And so David Wicker, you are welcome for the plug
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And you got another plug
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Because we care about liberty too, and freedom
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And he said, brought my beloved Jules to tears
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Jules, bless you, bless you, bless you in your efforts
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To make a difference
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She was so excited and it meant the world to her
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You are such a treasure in the hill country
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And beyond ripple effect
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She's got my favorite name
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Oh, Jules, you've always liked that
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Always, I've wanted to change my name to Jules
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I know, you've always said that
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For years
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Which is bizarro, but it is a beautiful name
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00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,000
But you have a lovely name, Annette
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I like the name Jules
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00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,000
It's easy to remember, because pretend you're falling into
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00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:36,000
Maybe I like the name Jules because I like jewelry
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00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,000
Indeed you do
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Jewelry can be expensive, it can be adorning
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There you go
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I don't know, there's
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It's in Kutraman, it's beautiful
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Yes, I just love it
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00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,000
It's beautiful like you, for sure
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Oh, you're so sweet guys
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Okay, we must go now
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Now the last thing he says is K-Y-B-O on purpose
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On purpose, on my house, we'll do it again
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I'm going to do it again, I love it
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K-Y-B-O
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It's a happy tune, makes me want to dance
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But I won't
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00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,000
What did you say?
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00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,000
Makes me want to dance, but I won't
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00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,000
No, please don't
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00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,000
I'd probably knock my coffee over again on my keyboard
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My knee is hurting from dancing at the tendon bump
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I mean, literally, I had to quit walking and working out on my knee
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For weeks because of dancing
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00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,000
So no more dancing for me
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00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,000
I don't think you entered it dancing
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00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,000
You entered it at the gym
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00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,000
I probably re-entered it
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Because I saw you were doing bad form on squats
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00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,000
I wasn't doing bad form
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00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,000
Yes, you were
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I'm just a little old to be doing what I'm doing
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Hey guys, we love you, we are out of here
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It's been fun being with you today
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We love you, livingupinadownworld.com
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00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,000
Check it out, bridgefbg.com
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00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,000
Check it out, we love you
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00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,000
We're so happy to be back to a weekly show
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We are out of here, have an amazing day on purpose
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And KYBO everybody
