"I Got Bashed For It!"

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This is Jimmy and Annette and Mr. Shavey is joining us here today from our home studio

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in the big city of Fredericksburg, Texas. How are you doing over there, gorgeous?

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I'm doing great. Did we get it on this time? We got it on this time. Okay. We're having

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podcast problems. What is it, third time's a charm maybe? Yeah, we're using our mobile unit and

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sometimes it doesn't like playing with garage band very well. So yeah, I'm just not liking that. My

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executive producer, who's very well paid by the way, not, he said that he's got an idea. There's

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some things you can do like different programs. We're going to find another program to make this

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work. But anyway, this is Sunday afternoon. So we've had one of those weeks where we have literally

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not been able to get together to do the podcast. That's true. Well, we had a staff retreat all

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week and so- And that was amazing by the way. And we, I wouldn't want to take time away from

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their precious time to do a podcast just because their time is valuable and they went away, most

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of them without their significant others and so, and their children. And so we needed to concentrate

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on our staff this week. And what do we do on a staff retreat? Because a lot of our church members

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will be listening to this and they'd probably like to know what we do. Well, we pray, we worship

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together Monday night and Tuesday night, full on worship. Absolutely amazing. We plan the rest of

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2024. We planned all of 2025, which it's always fluid because anything could change. Life happens

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that the world changes and we can make changes, but we like to plan in advance those things that

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are really important like our membership classes, our baptism classes, our men and women's luncheons

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and events and just different things. Those are the things we plan. We don't plan our sermon series,

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so to speak, but we do plan out all the activities and events that we do throughout the year. Get

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them ready on the calendar so we can look because a lot of times people say, hey, can y'all do this

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or will y'all do that? And we can look on our calendar because we've calendared for a year and

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say, well, yeah, this week we have some time, but it's always- There's so many things that go into

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running a large facility with 700 plus people. So someone's always wanting to do something,

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to have something they need or their ministry needs the building or whatever. So yeah, there's

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a lot to it. The good thing is we took our staff to a movie and we saw God's Not Dead and God We

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Trust. Tell me how you liked that. Oh my gosh. I thought you took them to that movie to announce

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you were running for Senate, but you would still pastor the church. That's what they were saying.

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Are you running for office? Because that's the whole premise is a pastor running for Senate that

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is literally pastoring a church. But he was saying all the things you've been saying in the pulpit.

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So if I didn't know better, I would be questioning that as a staff member, but I know you're not,

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at least unless God told you to and then you would. And that's what happened with this pastor.

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He had no aspirations to get in politics, but when he was asked and he prayed, he felt like the Lord

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said yes. And we don't want to tell the story. By the way, I have no aspirations either to get

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into politics. People keep asking me, but I'm like, it would definitely be a lightning bolt.

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Oh, it would be. And God's prone to do things like that with me to let me know.

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I know. I'm prepared, whatever he wants to do. But we do need pastors and Christians to be in

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politics. I mean, we do need them to be in government because we can't trust the government to

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take care of us in the way that God wants to be.

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Are you telling me you're distrustful of our government? Our American government?

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Very much so.

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Why pray? Tell us.

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Look at where we are today.

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Yeah, we're in trouble here in America. I know we have a lot of listeners from all over the world,

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actually. When I check our stats, I mean, literally all over the world. And we want to say hi to

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wherever you are in the world. And we hope that we can be an encouragement to you. And we know we

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talk a lot about America because that's what's in our face right now as a nation where we've been

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known as the center of freedom, the bastion of freedom.

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We're losing our freedoms.

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All of a sudden, we're having to go, wait a minute, government has gotten too big. They're

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ignoring the Constitution of the United States, which was ratified and what was signed in 1776,

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ratified a few years later. But it's being largely ignored, discarded. And there's a lot of

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people like us that are saying, no, no, no, that's not how this works. So we're doing what we can to

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let our voices be heard. We let our voices be heard, first of all, with our votes. We go to, do

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you know, I've mentioned this, but this is important and people need to hear this over and

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over. 40 million Christians in 2020 stayed home and didn't vote. Didn't go to the polls. And I

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dare say, I bet some of those 40 million people have big opinions about what's going on right now.

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I bet they do too.

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And they have only to look at themselves.

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To their credit, not everyone understands the voting process and what their vote means. Most

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people don't think their vote counts, but that's where you get educated and you find out what it

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really does mean. And that you're not just voting for that one person, you're voting for a whole

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platform. And it's bigger than what we think. And I think we need to go back and find out from

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history what it really means to vote.

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I agree. And that, you know, it's on us. The onus is on us. Like I'm looking over at my bookshelf

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over there and I've got so many books on, you know, America, Encyclopedia of America, you know,

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all these books, The American Story by David and Tim Barton. I mean, I've got all these books

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about our country, Paul Johnson, history, American people. So we've got, it's on us to study. It's

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just like with scripture. I can't expect a pastor to spoon feed me the word of God. And he's there

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to charge me. He's there to encourage me and, you know, peel back the layers and educate,

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but he's not my sole source of food, so to speak.

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What's interesting, because I was talking to him, I was talking to my daughter today and her pastor

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was talking about discipleship and how, and prayer and that they're not taking prayer out just because

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they're adding more things to their calendar because that is so needed. But one of the things

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she said that I thought was interesting, and he said most pastors get in the word only to preach

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their sermon. They don't even know what the word says. And he wants to add some things into their

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congregation, their weekly events, like to teach people about repentance, forgiveness,

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freedom, ministry, deliverance. And he's like, most pastors don't go there, or the ones that he knows,

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because they just want to, they don't even know the word themselves, so they just kind of

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do the least you can. What is so interesting to me is we come off a sabbatical and we work harder.

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We're working smarter. We are working smarter, but we're actually, it energized us to realize,

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for one, we don't have that much time here. Whether Jesus comes back, we pass because of age or

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whatever. We don't have a lot of time. And while we have cognitive ability, we need to study the

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word and we need to do what it says. And we need to learn as much as we can. And I think you can

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become complacent. I think some people who may have taken sabbaticals, maybe in the past,

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I don't have anybody in my mind, but they might take it and think, okay, well, now I can kind of

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rest into my retirement or whatever. We did not have that attitude. I think we did for like five

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minutes. Yeah. I think that would have been short-lived because I did have this thought of,

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you know, I like this rest. I like feeling rested. And so, you know, when we come out of the,

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I did have that thought at one point that, so now we're just going to kind of go into,

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you know, instead of overdrive, we're going to gear down to fourth gear.

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Gear down. That didn't happen. And kind of set it.

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We went into overdrive plus. And yet I'm not upset about it. I have the energy.

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No, I'm excited about it. I have the energy for it, but I also have the excitement of

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being in the last days and we get to participate in this. So we need to gear up for what's

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going to happen. And we need to be, we need to be worded up and we need our people to be worded up

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so that they can handle what's going to happen. I keep hearing coach Rivera yelling through

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my ear from high school football, run through the tape, run through the tape, finish strong,

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kick, kick, kick. I mean, I'm not going to say everything you said because it wouldn't be

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repeatable over a Christian radio podcast. But I mean, he would just tell me to get your rear

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and gear. I mean, don't quit before the finish line. And I'm so thankful for coach Rivera.

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I am thankful that he, I can hear him in my head, coach Thompson as well, coach Osborne,

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I can list them all. Coach Easterling. I mean, I hear them in my ear saying, don't quit, don't

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come up short, finish strong. And now I hear Steve Maxwell saying that, you know, he's one of the

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founders of citizens for defending freedom. Great man of God. He's become a good friend.

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He's in Florida, by the way, and trying to get out from under all the damage and wreckage in

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Polk County where he lives. But his church and his pastor, Jack Hillegos is a, he's the mayor of

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the city there and the pastor. And God is doing amazing things with them. God's doing amazing

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things in our midst right now as we continue to speak truth into power centers. We're getting the

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truth out there and what we're doing is we're activating our people to get involved and to get

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engaged in culture. You know, a lot of Christians think that our job is to just be nice, you know,

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because, you know, Jesus was nice, right? So it's our job to just be nice, play nice, act nice.

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Don't ruffle anybody's feathers. And I'm going, that's not the Jesus I see in Scripture. No,

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that's not the Jesus that's in Scripture. I want to share that thing I shared with you. He was

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loving and he loved children. Oh, absolutely. He reprimanded adults quite a bit, especially his

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disciples. Religious adults. Yeah. But he was strong. He was a warrior. Exactly. But not the

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kind that people think or thought would come. Right. Right. So let me share this with you.

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There's two views here. This was posted by Lance Wallnau and I love Lance Wallnau.

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Okay. That's why I said this. I wanted that and I actually talked to someone about that today,

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but I couldn't remember where it came from. So I'm glad you're saying that this is real.

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Put this in the newsletter. Yeah, this is power. I think you should put it in the newsletter.

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So two views on Jesus. One is the biblical Jesus, what the Bible speaks of and how the Bible

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describes Jesus and the modern Jesus. So the modern, how we've made Jesus in our own image,

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kind of. Yeah. And so this is a comparison. Of today. Really, the modern Jesus, the one of today

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that most churches believe in. So this is a comparison. I love this. So this is a comparison,

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modern Jesus and biblical Jesus. So the modern Jesus preaches only on love. And the biblical Jesus

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preaches God's righteousness. In other words, right standing before God, pleasing God,

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living to honor him. Lordship. And then the modern Jesus gives you health and wealth.

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And the biblical Jesus gives salvation, hope, peace, and joy. There are some people that come

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to Jesus for what he can give them. Instead of what they can give to him. He's like a genie in

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a bottle. You know, you're a genie in the lamp. Aladdin's a lamp. You rub the lamp and then you

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get your wish. And some people treat Jesus like that. So here's another one. Another modern,

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modern Jesus never says anything negative. He's just nice. He just loves everybody and tolerates

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every behavior, every sin, because he redeemed the sin so he can tolerate it.

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Wow. Well, that's what modern Jesus believers feel.

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And biblical Jesus warns of sin, judgment, and hell. Jesus is saying there's something coming

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and there will be a judgment and there will be a dividing, a separation of the sheep and the goats.

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He tells a parable in Matthew 25 about this. And he's saying this is serious. And while he is all

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about love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, that's a fruit of the spirit. He's also about justice,

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righteousness, truth. And I mean, we got to be careful that we don't try to make Jesus into what

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we want him to be for us. It's like the scripture that says, well, did I prophesy in your name?

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Lord, Lord, did I prophesy in your name? Didn't I cast demons out in your name? And he's like,

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he says, depart from me. I never knew you because it was all about what they could do all in the

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name of Jesus instead of what he does. And they, and they didn't allow him to be Lord of their life

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and in relationship with them. It was them using Jesus. Think about it.

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How, why do you think that we have become, I mean, let's just chat real quick about this

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and riff on it a little bit. Why do you think we have made Jesus all about me? It's all about me.

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Because our culture is all about me. So what we do is we take what's going on in our culture

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and as a template, we try to put Jesus over there and make him fit.

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Instead of us fitting into his kingdom, we're making him fit into ours.

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Hey, but hey, I mean, doesn't Jesus want us to be happy? Doesn't he want us to just have everything?

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It doesn't, I mean, it's just sounds like you're just talking about a meanie,

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cosmic kill joy. I mean, it just sounds like you're saying that we can't live the life we want.

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You sound like a hippie talking. That's what a hippie would say. I know.

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But I'm saying right now we have a culture that wants Jesus in their image. They want Jesus to be

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nice and to be kind and gentle and never call out their sin and just affirm them constantly.

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Just affirmation. Because maybe they got persecuted by someone or someone,

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cut them off on Facebook or unfriended them or whatever. And now they're like, oh wait,

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I've got to, I need to acquiesce to what they believe so that I will have friends. And yet

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we forget that our ultimate choice is to please God, not other people.

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Amen, sister. So I said this today in church. I said, I learned the hard way and it's taken

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me some time to get there. That I need to quit worrying about what people think about me. I need

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to speak the truth of God's word in love and because of love into power centers and not worry

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about what somebody else thinks about me. And that's a hard thing to do as humans because

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it's innate in us to want to please. It used to be. It's getting to a point now

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where I expect that any room I walk in, there's going to be somebody there.

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You said that in the service today. I know. It's true.

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Keep going. I like that. There's still a couple more. Jesus loved and accepted by the world.

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Oh, everybody loves Jesus because Jesus is love. And yet he's really not accepted by the world at

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all. Biblical Jesus hated and despised by the world. This is where we have a hard time with Jesus

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because we want Jesus in us to be likable. We want Jesus in us to be so kind, so tolerant,

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so accepting and affirming that he doesn't make us look bad in front of our friends and our family.

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When in fact, Jesus is calling us to take a stand, he's calling us to stand up in a down world,

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to live up in a down world, to live above the line when the world decides we're going to bow down.

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Yeah. We're going to bow down to idols. We're going to bow down to Nebuchadnezzar.

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When they all bowed down to the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar had built,

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Shadrach, Bishak, Nabednego stood. They didn't stand up. They just stood. They didn't bow down.

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And what's happening now, I see this scenario all over the place where everyone is bowing down.

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You posted something on social media the other day and I got blasted for it because I posted it.

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Well, because it's Jimmy and Annette. Prove it on Facebook. But it was benign. You should read it.

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Read it. It was nothing. And yet you got blasted by Christians. This is what gets to me.

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This is what's frustrating. I can see people that are not Christians or pre-Christians,

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that Christians are just bashing you and me over this thing. I should have put my name on it.

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Okay. I'll read it. If Christians are not engaged with politics,

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decisions will be made by people who think God is irrelevant and the truth of God's word does not

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exist. Tell me what is controversial about that. Christians who never compliment me,

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never affirm anything, but they show up to criticize. They don't show up to help.

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They don't show up to encourage. They don't show up to say, I'm with you, brother. They show up to

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criticize. And all I said was we need to engage in politics so that they don't get

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into politics so that we have the right people making the decisions for us and not people that

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are ungodly making, I cannot believe people bash you over that. And the reason they've got the

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freedom to post this junk in terms of cutting other people down and being brave behind a keyboard,

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see how brave they are to my face standing toe to toe, but they're brave behind a keyboard because

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there's no accountability. And yet it's the freedom that was paid for by the blood of our

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forefathers and soldiers and women and children and first responders who've all gone before us

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and pastors who've laid their lives down, given up their lives, their fortunes and their sacred

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honor on behalf so that the next generation can walk in freedom. And these Christians that are

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coming after you and me for stating something so benign. That is extremely benign. Are you kidding

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me? I mean, there are some things I want to post that I know you will get bashed because people

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think you post it, even though I did. This was benign. This was just like, what? Engaging in

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politics, it could just mean voting too. But also we need to engage because we need Christians

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in politics. And there are more pastors in politics now than they've ever been in history.

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I'm hoping those people that bash are listening to this and they will understand. They won't.

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Oh my gosh. They're so deceived. And they call themselves Christians. Well, I beg to differ.

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I know. It's sad. You judge people by their fruit. And if you're going to bash on that,

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I would say you might need to think about your relationship.

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And remember, we leave out what we're full of.

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Exactly. Whatever's on the inside comes out on the outside. And when it's unchecked and unguarded,

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it'll come out through a keyboard. And it's like, wow, man, you know, you've never, you know,

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there were several on there. I thought, gosh, you've never given me the time of day, but,

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but when I post that you don't like, or it doesn't fit in your narrative,

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and you're going to come out with guns blazing. Okay. That tells me exactly. You will know them

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by their fruits. And the Bible says this in the proverbs, when you answer a fool,

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you become a fool. And that's why I've refrained from responding to that.

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That's good. Because I don't respond at all because they think it's you anyway.

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Ain't nobody got time for that. Oh my gosh.

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So anyway, so yeah, I mean, that's something that we have to watch out. So here's the thing,

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the decision I made and what prompted this part of this conversation was I've decided I'd rather be

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respected than liked. And even if I'm not respected, I don't even, I don't even have to,

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I don't even need that. The minute we need something from other people is the minute we

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are vulnerable. And it's heartbreaking. What are you doing up there on your phone?

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Our staff, we had some good news. Our staff is flipping out. It's hilarious.

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You still have another one. There was still another modern.

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Oh, oh, oh. Yeah. Finish that and then we'll say what our staff is flipping out about.

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Modern Jesus serves your will, not God's will. So he's like the genie in the bottle. Like I said,

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he's going to do exactly what I want him to do. And if he doesn't, then we're mad at him.

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Yeah. Not, not us because you know.

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How could, how could God do that to me? Yeah.

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How could, oh, and God let that happen. Oh, really? Yeah.

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You're going to tell God, yeah. Talk to Job about calling God out. See how that went for him.

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Biblical Jesus. So, so modern Jesus serves your will, not God's will. Biblical Jesus

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exalts God and the Father's will. That's the whole point is it's not about,

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and I even said this today, it's not about, oh Lord, what is your will for my life?

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Okay. We put the emphasis on my life.

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Instead of the emphasis on what is your will, period.

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Period. Yeah.

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Question mark. So I ask you a question mark. Right.

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Yeah. What is your will? And so I love that Biblical Jesus exalts God, the Father's will,

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which means we have to stand toe to toe with culture while they're saying, you believe what?

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You're saying if I'm gay, that I can't be a Christian. You're saying if I'm gay,

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I can't have a relationship with another man. And I'm saying, I know I'm not saying it. The Bible

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says it. Yeah. I'm just reading what the Bible says.

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Don't argue with me. I'm not arguing. I'm not here to debate, but I am here to say,

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this is what God's word says. Read Romans chapter one. It's very clear.

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Very clear. Yeah. Read it in any translation. It's clear.

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And so Biblical Jesus exalts God, the Father's will, which means we'll have to stand toe to toe

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when somebody says, well, wait a minute, I got pregnant. So I'm going to go get an abortion

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because I just don't have time for a baby. I just don't, it's just, I don't need that inconvenience

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in my life. By the way, it's only fetal tissue anyway. It's just, it's just a clump of cells.

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Wow. And you know, it's not really a human.

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I mean, when does a human become a human? Well, of course, when they can think and they have

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cognitive ability. But, but if someone is in a car accident

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and they're pregnant and it's manslaughter because someone hit them and they were both killed,

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they are tried for two murders. The baby and the, so.

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Are you saying we have hypocritical laws? Oh my gosh. Do we ever. Can you believe that?

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That doesn't make sense because they say the baby's not a real baby, but if the woman's pregnant,

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then, then it's murdered two times because it's, it doesn't even make sense.

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So, so let's, let's follow this, this logic train. So on Wednesday night, the Patriot academy with

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Rick Green did a zoom for anybody that wanted to join and be a part of. Did you tell him we

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watched that? No, I didn't have a chance to. We were all gacking so much today. We were

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big time fellas. We were there for a long time after church, just hanging out. But Rick Green

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hosted the Patrick Patriot Academy, hosted a new movie that just came out, a documentary called

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The 1916 Project. And it's, it was put together by Seth Gruber and his group called the White Rose

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Resistance. And it is a pro-life group as opposed to exactly what it is, pro-death. Yeah. And so you

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don't have pro in the middle. There's no pro-middle. There is no middle ground on this. You're either

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pro-life or pro-death on this issue. But the reason, tell the reason why Planned Parenthood

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got started. Well, it was with Margaret Sanger. And in the 1916, she started the first Planned

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Parenthood in New York City or Chicago. New York City could not find doctors that would,

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that would do abortions. So she, who was just a nurse, was she a nurse? I don't even know if

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she was a nurse, but her and another person performed illegal abortions without training.

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And they did it themselves. That, and the whole point was to get rid of a race. The whole point

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was to get rid of the undesirable. The unfit. They called them the unfit. Those that could end

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up in prison someday. Yeah, euthanasia. She was trying to impress Adolf Hitler, which by the way,

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he was impressed. She was a radical communist. She was radicalized communist in America.

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This blew my mind. Now, back in the early 1900s, there were communists in America. There was a

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communist party in America. And so, but then there were the radicalized, you know, communist, and she

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was a radicalized, kind of like Kamala Harris right now. Yeah. She's a radicalized communist.

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Yes. Pure and simple. Go get the checklist. You can look it up online on perplexity. I, I mean,

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you can find that and she checks every box. So that's, that's the world we live in right now,

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where we are, you know, we look at the McCarthy era that we're fighting communism. Ronald Reagan,

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one of, he ran his platform on, we're going to defeat communism. I mean, so. Which that movie,

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we saw that movie this week too. And that was really good too. Yes. Communism has

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not gone away. It's disguised now as socialism. It's a latter version, but it's still the same.

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It's the modern version. It's the modern version. Because we're modern America. Socialism. We have

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one more to go. So the last one on modern Jesus was modern Jesus hates to offend you or others.

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Oh. Because he's so nice. Yes. He doesn't want to offend. No. Because he's Jesus. Yes. Okay. So

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what's the biblical Jesus? He carries the lamb on his shoulder. Through the pasture.

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Oh, you know, little posters. Biblical Jesus offends the world with the truth. This is why

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the world hates us right now. The world hates us. Because they're speaking the truth. They don't

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want to hear the truth. No, they don't. They're angry. Because they're deceived. And it's demonic.

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They're deceived. They're deceiving. They're deceiving. We're a little fiery today aren't we?

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Well, I don't know why. Well, we had church today and we were pretty excited. Well, and we just got

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some really good news. And we just shared it with our staff. We have had a building project. We bought

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our building a few years ago from another church organization that gave us. They didn't give us

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the building. He gave us the titles, but we had to buy the building. And we got a loan, which was

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better than- During COVID. During COVID, which the interest rate was like three and a half percent.

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And they were wanting to charge a six percent rent, at least to own this company. And we chose to

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just buy it outright. And we had some money to be able to do that. We, the last two or three years,

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the end of year offering, we've asked people to give towards paying that loan off. And that loan

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started out well over a million dollars. We paid it off today. I know. We get to burn the notes.

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Someone called us and we've had several donors come up today. We put a challenge to the church

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and said, we really want to pay this off by October 31st. And we told them how much we owed. And

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several people gave today, but then someone texted us and said, my bankers contacting you tomorrow.

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We're zeroing it out. And we trust them because they've paid for things before.

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And the beauty of it is, is that it isn't any one person giving this massive amount.

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No, because we've had a lot of people. I mean, we literally got it down to 109,000 this week,

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which is crazy. So we paid off $1.6 million in five years.

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Four years. Four years. Four. It was April of 2020 was our, and when we started the loan,

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our first payment was in July. Jimmy. Yeah. This is September. Oh wow. So a couple of months.

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Yeah. Who does that? I wish I could pay my house in four years. And here's the thing. It's a God

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thing. It is. Cause we want to be out of debt. Cause we have other projects we need to do,

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but we want to pay cash for everything. It's God working through his people.

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Yes. Yes. Because we have a very, we have an amazing church. By the way, if you don't know,

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if you just joined us and you're going, these people are crazy. But really the bottom line is

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we're on fire for Jesus, but we also love our country and we want to see it return to its

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original intent. What the founding fathers intended, who were by the way, Christians,

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not deists and atheists. Give me a break. That's revisionist. Anyway, we are pastors of Bridge

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Church, Fredericksburg, Texas. So check us out. Go to bridgefbg.com. You can find our messages,

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sermons, music, worship, resources, everything's on there. But then you can also jump over to

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livingupinadownworld.com. And we would love to hear from you. I write a daily blog that goes on

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there every day. It's a daily blog. We call our daily devotional. I call it the morning grind.

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The morning grind. Cause you're drinking coffee. Cause I'm down. In fact, I've got some coffee

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right here. A little black raffle. You've got coffee here and something, an adult beverage.

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Something. We're celebrating. So we are having some champagne, which we don't do that often,

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but we're like, oh my gosh. I mean, it's like burning the note. We get to, we get to tell the

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church next Sunday, we've burned the note. Now what a lot of people won't know listening to this is

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I used to work for Dave Ramsey. So when I worked for Dave Ramsey, people would do their debt free

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screams. And I worked there at financial FPU Plaza. Well, our board, one of our board members

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is on there. Can we do a debt free? He freaked out. Can we do it with Dave Ramsey? I don't know.

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Maybe what I was thinking, I got an idea using our iPhone. I know I say we fly to Nashville.

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Oh, there we go. Let's take 700 people to Nashville. No, not 700. No, I'm saying we take our

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phone and on Sunday we announce this and then we do, we're debt free. A debt free scream through

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our phone. I'll send it to Brian. I'll let him do what he wants with it. Okay. That would be fun.

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So I worked for Dave Ramsey and when people would do their debt free screams, they would come to

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Nashville, come to FPU Plaza where I worked. And you got to watch. All of us, the whole building,

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I mean, 500 people. Would come out and cheer. We'd stand in the balconies and the stairs. We'd be

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down on the floor with the people and they'd do their debt free scream on Dave's radio show.

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And it was exciting. I remember thinking, wow, that would be nice to do a debt free scream.

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And here we are. We get to say that we've paid off $1.6 million, paid off our church.

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In four years. Four years. Glory to God. And I got to say, our people are amazing.

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We have the most generous people. We really do.

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We're an amazing church. Generous. And we're excited because we're turning that blessing

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to bless ministries, especially at pregnancy resource centers.

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Missions. We gave double the amount of missions that we've ever given this year.

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Also A21, which is rescue. Sex trafficking.

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Children out of sex trafficking. That's something that's near and dear to our heart as well. So

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we've been very blessed. So the Bible says that we are blessed in order to be a blessing.

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And if you bless and pray for Jerusalem, you will be.

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Blessed. And so.

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Every Sunday we pray for Jerusalem, the peace of Jerusalem.

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Jerusalem.

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Psalm 122 verse six. People don't like that.

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They, they're not.

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Our people do. But there are people in this world that are so anti-Semitic.

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Because they, they're deceived.

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Yeah, it's awful. So anyway, we just want to say thank you, but go to livingupandadownworld.com

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and leave us a note. Write us, you can easily write us an email. If you want to bless us,

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You can leave us a review. We just, whatever it is, we just love the interaction. We are so

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thankful. Do we have some people to thank?

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We do. We did receive a PayPal from a donation from Steve Wise.

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So thank you, Steve. He's given many times before. So I think he's on a monthly, but I can't,

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I never know. It's kind of hard to tell on PayPal, but we want to thank you for that.

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And then I know you've said you've received a lot of Satoshis this week as well.

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We have. I mean, well, that was last week. Last week.

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Huge. I'm actually trying to look right now. I'm doing CAPTCHA. I'm human. So I'm trying to

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vlog into my Albie account. Oh my God. You're just going to take a little bit.

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It's crazy. It does. Oh gosh. This is ridiculous. They're making me do all kinds of

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acrobatics here. Well, we know Adam Curry.

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We know Adam Curry. Man, Striper Boost. Boom. I mean, actually.

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Because he missed that. Wait, no.

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He did more than a Striper Boost. He did a massive boost.

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He did. Let me just read this because it came in an email.

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It's because he heard that he didn't give the week he was in Mexico.

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Here's one from Tina. Oh, Tina gave.

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Okay. So let me just say this. So Adam and Tina Curry are two of our very best friends on the

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planet. They have a great podcast you need to check out called Curry and the Keeper.

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And Annette made a comment about Tina not listening to the show. And so Tina sent us

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a mini Striper Boost of 7,777 sats. And she says, a mini Striper Boost to remind Annette

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that I listened to the show, sending lots of love to you two. And we love you too, Tina.

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We actually hung out with them, what? A couple of nights ago.

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Oh gosh. Those stakes were amazing. And then from Adam Curry, man, this is a big boost.

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100,777 sats. He said, boosting for blankets and a blessing to put living up in a down world in the

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top 10. What's blankets mean? So the blankets are the blankets I have around our mini.

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Oh, okay. So what we do when we're not at the church, like today, it's Sunday afternoon.

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Our office is soundproof, but this is not. This is not. So this looks like a tent city. It looks

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ghetto. I look like I'm in my 12 year old tent at home.

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It looks very ghetto right now. I have blankets all around the office, hanging on my guitars,

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over the doors. And it's just our way to soundproof the place. Sound decent.

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Because I'm going to be home all next week, you're going to be in the office. So we're not going to

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be together next week. We'll be able to do it in the office next week. But anyway, we just absolutely

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appreciate you and adore you. And thank you. Thank you for listening. I know today has been

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a ramble, man. It's been a lot. Because there's just things that are heavy on our heart because

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in this election season, the world's very spun up right now. And we want people to be able to find

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peace and hope in Christ and not live the spun up life. Because it's not worth it. It's not worth it.

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There's a kingdom that's bigger than the one, the kingdoms of men.

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I did have a question that was presented to me before we go. And I think this would be good for

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you to answer. Someone asked me, we had some new people from Kerrville at our church today.

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Who were wonderful. I got to meet Jeannie, Marianne, Tina, and Bob. Hopefully they're

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listening to this show. I know I'm trying to really, really remember. I had to think about

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their names and how I can remember their names. And so Marianne from Gilligan's Island,

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Tina, because Tina's my best friend. Whatever works. Jeannie, I dream of Jeannie. Literally,

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we were all talking about how we can remember names. All they had to remember was my name.

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But I had to remember four names. But anyway, they asked a question. Where is the best source

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to get news? Oh, everybody asked that question. And I did tell them CBN news. But where else do

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you? Because they wanted to know, where do you get your sources? Okay. I'm going to look this up for

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you. So CW Miller is a history professor who attends our church, conservative. Is he still

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a professor? Is he retired? No, no, he's retired now. But we spent some time on the phone a while

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back when Ukraine war broke out. Which is still going on and it's just horrible. It's a money pit

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and it's a money laundering scam basically. And so if Trump gets elected, he'll put that to an end in

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about a day. And so anyway, I want to share... So I've shared this list with a lot of people,

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but I'll just go ahead and read it over the air right now. And I think you should put this in your

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newsletter. It's super short. So it's not that hard, but I don't mind posting this in the newsletter.

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Yeah. This and that. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. Fantastic. So here are... So ISCW, I said,

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CW, there are so many news sources out there. They're all slanted. It's hard to know. Is there

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any real news these days? And he said, not really, but if you'll kind of use a combination of these,

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you can get a good picture of what's going on. Wow. So here it is. And he listed these. He said,

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there's more, but these are the ones he gave me. First of all, Newsmax. And I like Newsmax. I

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follow them on Instagram. They give short things. Did you give this to Adam to get his opinion on

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this? Because I know he probably has a strong opinion. Yeah, he does. Yeah. I mean, because

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he's got... He gets a lot of sources from people. He calls them boots on the ground. Yeah. So

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Newsmax. Newsmax. Another one is OAN. And you can look that up. Yes, I've seen that. OAN. Town Hall

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is another. Town Hall. Okay. Town Hall. Look it up. New Town Hall News. Epic Times. Yeah. Which we've

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used that. That's the one we watch or read. That's pretty solid. Yeah. That and CBN. Like I said,

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I combine all these. I love CBN. I really like CBN. I can't just get on all these. I can't. I

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just have too much other things in life. It's easy. It's fun. More important. Here's another one called

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Real Clear Politics. Really? So just look it up. I mean, you just look it up. Real Clear Politics.

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Another one is American Greatness. Okay. These are just all websites. You can get all of these

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online. Another one's called The National Review. Okay. You've got a lot. Yeah, there's a bunch. And

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then one more called Just the News. Just the News. So those are the ones. And they're saying that

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because they're not, they're trying to. They're trying not to be slanted. They're trying to just

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report the facts. And I think I remember him telling me that was probably one of the more

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neutral. That they're just reporting the news and they're not slanting or trying to make it.

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They're not trying to make money off of it. Yeah. Or make it or fit a narrative. Yeah. Okay. So

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anyway, those are the ones he recommended. And there's a lot of others that I check out and look

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at. But again, CBN News, the reason I like them is because they're faith-based. Yeah. Someone asked

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me today, well, are they woke? I'm like, no. No. They've always been awake. Yeah. They're awake,

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not awake. Yeah. Somebody I've enjoyed listening to podcast wise, I just want to recommend this.

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Jack Hibbs. Well, I love Jack Hibbs, obviously from Chino Hills, California. Look him up on

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YouTube. He has. Man, he's on it. Great podcast. Another pastor that's really on it and really a

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statesman for the movement of conservatives. Alan Jackson. Alan Jackson. We listen to both of them

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daily. We look for little snippets of things from them daily. Cause we don't have time to listen to

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full messages every day. We listen to them so much when we pull up our YouTube, they're all right

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there. Yes. And so there's another good one. And that's what I told them. I told these people

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that asked me this question today. Those are two sources that get, they have sources where they,

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that are reliable. Also, if you go to Patriot Academy, Rick Green, he does ongoing things.

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He's part of wall builders as well with David Barton and Tim Barton. And he's got a lot of

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people don't know unless they're a Christian, honestly. Oh gosh. Every time you talk about it,

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people go, what? You need to check out wall builders. It is one of the most researched. I don't know how we can get them more on the map.

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Maybe have them come here. That would probably be. Why not? We need to just reach out. Yeah. We'll reach out through

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Rick. Yeah. Kirk Cameron. I love Kirk Cameron. Kirk is doing some great things right now. He and Candice both are strong. Kirk has a great,

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it's called the American Revival Fireside. American Fireside Revival. I'm trying to get it all. It's

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kind of like living up in a down world if you don't know it. American Fireside Revival, where he goes

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out in his backyard around his little fire ring out in probably Franklin, Tennessee. I think he's

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in Nashville area, probably Franklin. And he sits by the fire and he just presents what's going on

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right now. He's written a new book that I want to get called Brave. I think we ordered it and it's-

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Oh good. Remember, we pre-ordered it. We pre-ordered it. But check him out. It is fantastic. Super

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impressed with what he's doing. He has been one of the most stable actors. So celebrities go-

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Yes, that I've ever seen. And he's not extreme. He's just super on point. Some actors, you know,

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like what's his name? The black actor that, and now he's, he was married to one of the Kardashian.

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Oh. Yeah. That didn't last. Yeah. That one didn't last very long. But Candice Bure and her brother,

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Cameron, Kurt Cameron are as stable as you can get. And you, I mean, you can tell their parents

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just, they must've had an amazing family childhood. So today something that happened. So I'm preaching

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and I put up a quote by Kurt Cameron. Yes. I pulled off of one of his podcasts and Rick Green is in

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our church, Rick and Kara from the Patriot Academy and all their interns were there today. It was

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great to see that row full of the young people. And he pulls out his camera and he takes a picture

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of me on the platform with that quote from Kurt. And he wrote Kurt, cause they're friends. They're

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friends. He was just on his podcast last week. They're always on. And he's been, he's on there

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probably once a quarter. Yeah. So they're good friends. He's been out here. So he, I know,

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and I'm sure we'll get to meet him. You didn't want to go because you were too tired. It was a

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Sunday night and now I wish we would have gone. Okay. Really? You're bringing that up. I'm sorry.

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But if he comes back, I don't care what night that is true. You will do this. But no, I would come,

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I would go. So as we regressed, now we're here back to now. So it was cool that he sent him,

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he sent it to Kurt. Which is the same thing he did with, with John Cooper. You had a picture of

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his book because you had been reading it and you put it on the screen and we're talking about it

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to our church. He had just had him on his podcast as well too. And John Cooper said,

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no pastor will ever read or quote my book. And he said, this one is. This one is. Yeah. Anyway.

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That'd be fun to get him. He could probably get him. That would be fun to have him at our church.

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Having the Patriot Academy here and having written care in our church. They have connections. Anybody

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they bring you. Eric Metaxas, Seth Gruber. There's so many people he's connected with

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that we can have at our church. Seth Gruber lately. And Lance Wall now. So there's a lot.

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That would be a good one. Yeah. So we'd love to hear from you. Go to livingupinaworld.com.

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Oh, you did it again. What is wrong with me? You can't do it. That's why it needs to be living up.

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But Adam says everybody has living up. No, I won't. Livingupinadownworld.com.

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Downworld.com. Oh my gosh. I try to go too fast. You're excited. I know. You get excited to do this

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podcast. I do. I get really excited because we've had over 65,000 downloads and these are people.

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These are people that listen to us and give us their time. You're a loving, caring person. And

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you literally, when you make friends with people too, you're not just, you don't have like wayward

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friends. They're friends for life. I mean, you just, you love people. So I can see, I can see

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where you. Listen, we're going to get to spend eternity with all these friends we're making down

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here. And maybe even some that are on the other end of this podcast will never know in this

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lifetime. Who knows in heaven, we go, oh my gosh, I know you guys. You know what I mean? Yes. Who

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knows, right? Who knows? Good about stuff. So anyway, so we love you and we're going to go ahead

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and land the plane on this show. Mr. Chevy, thank you for joining us today. He is a furball right

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now. He needs a haircut. No, it's about to be, well, this is when he's the cutest. Keep him

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brushed. We need to cut him. He looks cute when he's like a big furball, but he's a little hot.

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He's like, he's burning up. It's very hot in here. And I'm drinking coffee. We love you guys. Keep

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living up in the down world. Have a great week on purpose. I don't want to know when we'll get

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around to our next podcast. It's probably later in the week. Yeah, later on. But we'll do it,

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whether it's mobile or at the church one way or the other. We'll be coming to you. And so we love

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you. Have a great week on purpose. Keep living up in the down world. God loves you and so do we.