Feb. 26, 2025
"Conversations: Pastor Brian Mandel”
Join Jimmy and his guest, Pastor Brian Mandel, for a conversation about the state of our nation, practical discipleship, and where do we go from here?
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I'm recording right now, by the way.
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Okay.
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We're on.
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Thought we'd just talk a little bit
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before we jump into it.
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Yeah, check one, sibilance.
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Can we bring the volume in my headphones down just a little?
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Yeah.
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Perfect.
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Okay, yeah, that's better.
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Is that good?
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Yeah, it was just a little loud.
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All right.
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Well, how's your morning been so far?
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It's been good.
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I've gotten the word and got to kind of get my head right
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and just think, I got a lot of things I'm thinking about,
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I'm thinking about the Sunday out there
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and I'm thinking about next Wednesday,
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I'm thinking about this memorial service,
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I'm thinking about the men's breakfast.
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So just trying to keep them all in their buckets
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is the challenge.
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Preacher stuff, people don't realize,
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they see us at our best.
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I love what Adam Curry says.
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He says, the reason why people think it's effortless
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for you is because you make it look effortless.
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And so they don't realize you're tired
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after doing two services and it's 1.30, one o'clock,
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and people still hanging out,
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they don't realize you've been there all day already.
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And because you make it, that was a compliment.
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You make it look easy.
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Right.
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So. Yeah.
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So.
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Well, one of the things I think people don't realize
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is what preaching does to you physically,
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spiritually, emotionally.
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Like it's hard to explain even how you feel
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after you preach and teach the word of God.
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It's different than just giving a speech
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or talking to people in a classroom.
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There's something spiritual about it
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that you feel drained, not in a bad way,
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but drained coming out of it.
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After Sundays especially, or Wednesday nights,
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more Sundays because I've got the rest of the day.
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Wednesday nights, you kind of go home and you collapse.
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You can go to bed.
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But on Wednesdays, I'm usually just, I mean, I'm wiped.
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I'm just, I'm like a zombie.
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I try not to be.
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I noticed this last Sunday, I felt really good all day.
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Oh, good.
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And then at eight o'clock, I was ready to go to bed.
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I was like, I'm done.
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Okay, I'm done.
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Well, good.
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Hey, we wanna welcome our listeners today
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to Living Up In A Down World.
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And so we'll do that with a little roll in here.
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This is Pastor Jimmy and Pastor Brian Mandel.
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And we're gonna start today on Living Up In A Down World.
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We wanna welcome you.
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And we were just riffing a little bit
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before we get started.
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And you know what, I forgot to pray.
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Let's pray.
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Let's take a moment.
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Why don't you pray?
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Just make it brief.
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But let's consecrate this over to the Lord.
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Yeah, Father, thank you for the opportunity
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to sharpen each other, to speak about you,
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to speak about truth and to encourage people
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around the country listening to this
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and around the world listening to this.
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God, I pray they'd be blessed by our conversation today
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in Jesus' name, amen.
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Yeah, amen and amen.
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Well, I wanna start off with just talking a little bit
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about what's been going on in the country
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because man, get some popcorn and a Dr. Pepper
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and just read your newsfeed.
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It's been wild.
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It's like the nonstop highlight reel
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that just never quits.
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And haven't, didn't they confirm all of us, 22.
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Yeah. 22 confirmations.
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Wasn't Cash Patel the last one?
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Cash Patel.
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And there was a couple that, there were some, you know,
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that weren't highlighted so much
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or they weren't controversial per se,
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but pretty amazing that they were able
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to confirm all of them.
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Yeah. I mean, shocking really.
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It's like the NBA All-Star team is what it feels like
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going to the Olympics to, you know, dominate.
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It does feel like that.
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Like America, you know, we're number one.
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I mean, powerful.
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But I wanna just share something as we get started.
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I made a comment on Sunday and it's been,
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it's a well-known, you know, kind of a cliched comm quote.
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If you don't know your history,
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you're bound to repeat it or you're doomed to repeat it.
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You know, and so I had everybody say that out loud.
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And so since the election and since, you know,
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the confirmations and all that,
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I'm not going quite as intensely
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on some of the political pieces as I usually do.
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And part of that is I don't wanna take the sermon time
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to do that, but I do, I feel like my role
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as an educator, a teacher, a pastor,
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is that I still have a responsibility to teach our people
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and a responsibility to bring things to the table
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and to keep people thinking, keep people prompted.
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And so on Sunday, I did this,
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I just called it a cultural historical briefing.
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And I read a little bit of the charter of Jamestown.
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It's from 1606.
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What people do not understand and a lot of, you know,
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this generation that's here in the last two,
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three generations don't understand
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because we don't do a good job of teaching history.
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We don't do a good job of going back
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to our foundational documents.
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You know, we live in a time where, you know,
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your iPhone is basically out of date
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by the time it arrives at your house, right?
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You order it, it's three weeks getting there or two weeks.
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And by the time it gets there,
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they're already talking about the next version, right?
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Music's that way.
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Music is so digitally oriented now
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with downloading capabilities.
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You don't go to Billy's Band Aid and buy records anymore.
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I mean, you literally have to,
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you just download them in a nanosecond.
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You think about a song and in 30 seconds,
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you can be listening to it.
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I miss physical music so much.
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I do too.
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I miss that.
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I missed my Bible.
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It's why I got my Bibles back out.
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All of them.
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This is one of my favorites.
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This is the one I've had a long time.
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It's got a lot of notes in it.
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I always use a physical Bible.
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I love it.
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There's something different about it.
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There's something about tactile, tangible feeling
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that puts me more in the moment.
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Whereas from the digital world,
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and I'm even starting to step out.
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Last night I caught myself laying in bed doom scrolling.
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Just habit.
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What's the news?
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I hadn't looked at the news all day
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and we went to bed and I was scrolling
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and I just caught myself and I stopped myself.
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And I clicked over
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because I didn't have my Bible sitting on my nightstand.
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So I clicked over to scripture
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and just spent time reading scripture.
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And I was like, what are you doing?
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It's so simple to fall into that.
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So think about it.
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Our generation's been trained in 144 characters, right?
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Because our 140 characters,
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that's what Twitter X was if you don't have the blue,
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the premium version of it, which I'm not gonna pay for.
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So I get 140 characters.
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That's not very much.
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So you learn to be brief.
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You learn to be quick.
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And then what we've done,
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we've trained our brains to do life in 140 characters.
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We don't say how we're feeling.
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We just send an emoji.
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Yeah, I'm happy.
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I don't wanna say I'm happy.
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I just gonna send an emoji.
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Well, and it's gone beyond that even to,
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everything's about clickbait now, right?
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It's about the, what is the little thumbnail on the video
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that sucks you in with a deceptive tagline of some kind
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just to get you to click.
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It's gone even worse.
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It's brutal.
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And it's brutal on the heart.
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I love what John Eldridge talks about
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how it's an assault on your heart.
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He says the human heart, and I totally agree.
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He has some great sources for this and great resources,
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but the human heart was never designed to take in
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the amount of content and information
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that we're driving our hearts to take in.
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So our hearts can't handle it.
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It's an assault on the heart.
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And of course in marketing and media,
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it's actually, you could say it's an attack on the heart,
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but really it's them trying to get your heart's attention.
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If they can get your attention, they can get your money.
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And that's what it comes down to,
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clicks, likes, comments, and then monetizing, right?
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And so when I go back and read things
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like my physical Bible, or actually go back
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and read the charter of Jamestown,
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or I read the Mayflower Compact
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and Declaration of Independence,
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and I read those words slowly,
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I realized that when they wrote those words,
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there was intentionality behind every word.
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Yeah, focus.
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Focus, there's weight, there's gravity.
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Each word means something.
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Because they knew they were writing something
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that would become potentially the rule of law for them,
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which means they would need to write it well,
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because they're gonna be coming back to this.
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It's gonna be their driver,
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but it's also gonna create a lane or boundaries,
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you know, rails to keep these new colonies on track
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and to bring some level of order.
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And so let me read this,
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and then feel free to comment on this.
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We do hereby dedicate this land and ourselves
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to reach the people within these shores
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with the gospel of Jesus Christ,
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and to raise up godly generations after us.
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And with these generations,
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take the kingdom of God to all the earth.
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May this covenant of dedication remain to all generations,
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as long as this earth remains,
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and may this land, along with England,
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be evangelists to the world.
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You know, what stands out to me in hearing that
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is even just the terminology of like using the word covenant.
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You know, they didn't see this as just an idea
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that they wrote down,
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or just some, you know,
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thing that they thought would be good to do.
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They recognized they were doing something solemn,
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that they were making an agreement with God himself,
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you know, and that they were dedicating themselves
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to this purpose.
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And there's something powerful about understanding,
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like this is what everything we know as America today
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was established based on, was that idea.
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And we get caught up in all of the things
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that happened along the way,
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some good, some bad, some terrible.
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It's not about all of the things
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that happened after that individually.
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It's about what was the point?
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What were we trying to do?
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What were the founding fathers aiming at, you know,
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and constantly taking ourselves back to that?
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I mean, you see that all throughout scripture as well,
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with God's people.
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God's people made all kinds of mistakes.
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They goofed up, they forgot God, they left God,
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they sinned against God,
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they entered into judgment and captivity,
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but it always was God taking them back to,
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this is what I started you on.
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This was the covenant I made with you
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and bringing them back to that.
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And as long as they would return
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to the promises God made to them,
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return to the covenants that they made with God,
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they would prosper, they would succeed,
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they would find their way again,
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because God is faithful to bring people back
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when they've made right agreements with him.
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That's really good insight, PB,
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because if we have nothing to go back to
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that is a foundational thing for us.
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And in our discipleship series, we talk about foundations.
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We spend a whole block, four to five weeks on foundations,
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because if you don't have foundations,
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you have nothing to build on.
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And we've all seen houses that were not built properly,
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they were thrown up too quickly,
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or they were built on land
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that didn't have a good foundation,
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didn't have the right kind of bedrock or right kind of soil.
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And as the earth moves, the foundation shifts,
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and if it's not well built,
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everything shifts, the whole house.
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You know what it makes me think of is,
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those renovation shows we all used to binge watch on HGTV.
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A lot of times, you'd see a house that looked really bad
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or looked like it was falling apart,
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and they would tear it down to the studs,
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to the foundations, if you will,
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and they'd find out, actually, this is a well-built house.
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Everything that looks so bad about it
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was cosmetic and easily fixable.
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And I think that's where we are in America.
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As many bad things as there are,
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as many things as need to be corrected
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that are truly things we need to think about and address,
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we have good foundations.
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We have a good framework that we've built this nation on,
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and it's the same with our faith, with Christianity.
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And we can, the things that seem so insurmountable
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are actually fixable.
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We can address the problems when the foundation's right.
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And that's well said.
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We were in a church one time,
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and we planted a church in central Texas, in a small town,
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and there was a church building available,
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and it had an apartment inside of it.
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So if we could rent the church,
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we would have a place to live.
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So it was a two-for-one thing.
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I mean, it was crazy, looking back on it,
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like, what were we thinking?
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But you don't know anything in your 30s.
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So not to offend anyone who's 30 years listening to this,
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I'm just saying, we didn't.
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Maybe you do, but we didn't.
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And it was our first church plant,
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so we were happy to actually secure a building
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that had an apartment in it.
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So it actually worked out great.
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The problem was, it was so,
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the foundation was terribly built,
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and it was built in a part of that town
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that was known to have bad soil and bad foundation.
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So all of the homes in that area had issues,
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had foundation issues.
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So if you have a foundation issue,
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anything you build on that foundation
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is gonna have issues.
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And I remember it would change throughout the year,
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but the cracks in the walls,
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there were certain times of year,
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or if there was a drought season,
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depending on what the climate was like
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in that particular time of year,
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where there were times where there would be holes
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so big you could see through it outside the house.
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Oh my goodness.
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I mean, literally, any kind of critters,
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mice, squirrels could get in.
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And we had to actually put things
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like stuff, rags or towels in some of those cracks.
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That's how bad it was.
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And then we'd get rains and whatnot,
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and then we'd go pull the stuff out
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because the walls would go back together.
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It was the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
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I learned a lot about foundations having that building.
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We didn't own it, we just leased it.
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So we ended up, we were able to get out of that
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at some point, but the foundations are so critical.
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And that's what I love about this charter.
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They were saying that our intent and our purpose
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for coming here and our intent now that we're here
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is to literally gospelize the world.
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We're here to evangelize and share
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the gospel of Jesus Christ.
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I mean, literally they said to reach the people
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within these shores with the gospel of Jesus Christ
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and to raise up godly generations after us.
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Sounds like they knew the great commission.
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Tell me about it.
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And I get goosebumps literally when I read,
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I almost get emotional over it
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because that is what our nation is founded on.
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And when you talk about American exceptionalism,
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some people get upset about that and think,
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oh, you're just being arrogant.
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It's not about arrogance, it's all.
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It's just that this is the only nation
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that has in its original documents,
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the express purpose for its founding
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was to evangelize the world.
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And I believe that's why we've had chance after chance
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after almost like Israel just over and over.
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We don't replace Israel, not at all.
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I never, anyone tells you that they're way out of bounds
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and they're in dangerous territory theologically.
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Well, the scripture tells us that any nation
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is gonna be blessed who's God is the Lord,
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whether that's Israel, of course,
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but any other nation who gets in on that party
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will also be blessed and that's what America did.
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That's Psalms 3312 and I absolutely love that
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and appreciate that.
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I have sitting before me on the table before us
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a very miniature version of the national monument
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to the forefathers and it's in Plymouth, Massachusetts
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and it's literally hidden away.
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I remember when we drove, we were driving over to see it
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and we were with Adam and Tina Curry, it was me and Annette,
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we had gone up to Plymouth and to see this monument,
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I felt led to pray over this, pray over our nation
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by laying hands on the monument and we did that.
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It was amazing.
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What I didn't realize, I had looked it up,
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I'd read about it so I knew the history of it.
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You heard about it from Kurt Cameron, right?
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Yeah, Kurt Cameron in his movie Monumental
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and then also when we did biblical citizenship
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through the Patriot Academy with Rick Green,
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they have a whole first lesson is Kurt Cameron again,
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explaining and most people have never heard of this.
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Just, well, just, I had neither.
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Most recently, Adam Curry was on Joe Rogan
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and he gave him a Founder's Bible,
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which is a fantastic tool for learning your history
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and marrying it with the original intent
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of the nation and the Word of God.
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So if you want a good resource, all the content in that,
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you have the Bible, it's a New American Standard Bible,
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but with sections all through there
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about the founding of our country.
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And it helps you see the scriptures out of the word
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that the founders used to build the basis
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for the foundational documents of the country.
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So you understand this is where they took it from.
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Yeah, it's an amazing resource and tool for you learning.
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And all of the little vignettes in there are short
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and easily readable.
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You don't have to read like a full book.
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These are like a few pages and they have pictures
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and they're just a great way to get the highlight reel
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of history, so to speak, of our foundations.
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So I would encourage you to check it out again,
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called the Founder's Bible.
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You can get it at the Patriot Academy.
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Just Google Patriot Academy
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and they have a gift store online there.
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So Adam was telling Joe Rogan about the National Monument
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and about us going up to Plymouth to see it.
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He made a comment back when we went to see it,
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there's only one tiny sign in town
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that says the National Monument to the forefathers.
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They have these huge signs for seeing Plymouth Rock,
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which was a real dud.
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We saw it when we went.
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It's a rock, you know?
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And by the way, it's probably not the rock they landed on
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because it was even added later
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by a deacon or an elder,
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a deacon from one of the churches decided it was this one.
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So anyway, it's one of those kind of going to Israel
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is like, you know, all these different places
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you may have been the site of, you know,
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not necessarily was, so there's that.
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But this is different.
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This was built in 1889 or completed in 1889.
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It took them 100 years to build this
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because it was made out of granite, right?
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It's made out of solid granite.
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It's the largest solid granite monument in America.
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It's also the tallest at 81 feet.
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And-
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It's pretty big.
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It is big.
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And you don't know how big it is until you see it in person.
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You can go online, look at pictures of it.
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But the thing that Adam made a comment about,
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he is it's like it's been lost.
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And as soon as he said that, I said, no, it's been hidden.
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Yeah.
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It's not hidden from us, it's hidden for us.
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There you go.
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I just really felt that and I said that when we were there
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as we rolled up, it's actually in a cul-de-sac.
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Of a neighborhood.
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So it's really almost bizarre.
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And then you roll up on this little park
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and this thing is so massive in scale.
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I was blown away.
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I didn't realize how tall 81 feet was.
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And unfortunately this thing does not get visitors
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like other monuments do.
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No, no.
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Because people don't know about it.
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A little over 200,000 a year might show up
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according to the thing I read about it,
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which is nothing compared.
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And there's no other mention of it anywhere like downtown
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in the tourist district of Plymouth.
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And it's fun, it's a great trip.
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And it's a fun place to hang out for a whole day or two
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and enjoy.
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We enjoyed our time there, neat shops to walk around
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and it's on the bay, overlooks the bay and it's beautiful.
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And yet there's no mention of the monument to the net.
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And it's massive and it completely towers
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over any other monuments that we have, but it's hidden away.
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But I think it's hidden so that we'll find it
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for those who want it.
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So what it is, I like the way Rick Green
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and Kirk Cameron both use this language.
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I've totally stole it.
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It's mine now.
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I've said it enough, I shouldn't give them credit anymore.
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But it really is the secret sauce
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to how our nation was founded, what it's founded on.
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And I wanna read these to you.
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And I'll put a picture of this on our newsletter as well,
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but I would encourage you to go look at it.
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The top figure on it at 81 feet in the air
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is a woman with her hand pointed to heaven
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and her name is, and it's engraved on in solid granite faith.
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And she's actually holding a Bible.
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And this would have been the Geneva Bible.
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This was the Bible that they brought over.
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I've actually read excerpts from the Geneva Bible.
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You think King James Version is hard to read.
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This is another level of Elizabethan English
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I didn't know existed.
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So all the alternate spellings,
526
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S's or F's and all that.
527
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,500
I mean, it's hard to read.
528
00:21:06,500 --> 00:21:08,160
I was like, cause you can order one.
529
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,860
I was like, no thanks.
530
00:21:09,860 --> 00:21:11,540
I don't think I would ever read it
531
00:21:11,540 --> 00:21:13,940
other than just be kind of nice to have a piece of history.
532
00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:16,940
But she's holding a Bible, a copy of the scriptures.
533
00:21:16,940 --> 00:21:21,080
She's pointing to heaven and directly below her.
534
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,120
It starts off with four other figures
535
00:21:24,120 --> 00:21:28,320
that circle the base or the foundation of the monument.
536
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,280
And the first one is called morality.
537
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,460
Morality is actually a woman sitting on a,
538
00:21:35,460 --> 00:21:38,820
just like a throne or a chair kind of thing.
539
00:21:38,820 --> 00:21:40,860
And she's holding, what do you think that is?
540
00:21:40,860 --> 00:21:41,700
What does that look like?
541
00:21:41,700 --> 00:21:42,540
The 10 commandments.
542
00:21:42,540 --> 00:21:43,660
That's the 10 commandments.
543
00:21:43,660 --> 00:21:46,300
So she's holding the 10 commandments in her hand.
544
00:21:46,300 --> 00:21:49,680
And she's holding the scroll of the scriptures
545
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:50,880
in her other hand.
546
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,680
And her name is morality.
547
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,340
And on each side of morality,
548
00:21:55,340 --> 00:21:57,180
there are other names ingrained
549
00:21:57,180 --> 00:21:58,880
in that same foundation piece.
550
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,280
One of them is evangelist.
551
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,520
Again, alluding to this charter that said,
552
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,360
we're gonna be evangelists to the world.
553
00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:10,460
On the other side, interesting enough, is prophet.
554
00:22:10,460 --> 00:22:11,760
And what do prophets do?
555
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,500
They foretell and they forth tell.
556
00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:15,600
They declare.
557
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:16,760
They declare the word of the Lord.
558
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,000
The word of the Lord.
559
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,460
And so that's all on there.
560
00:22:19,460 --> 00:22:21,200
Now you go on around the monument.
561
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,400
The next one, the next figure is Law.
562
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,040
Law's very imposing looking.
563
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,140
He's a very stately gentleman.
564
00:22:29,140 --> 00:22:32,880
And he has in his hands the books of the Law.
565
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,560
And I don't know, there is an explanation for that,
566
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:36,720
but I'm not sure what it is.
567
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,420
And on each side of Law, you've got mercy.
568
00:22:40,420 --> 00:22:41,520
Isn't that interesting?
569
00:22:42,460 --> 00:22:44,260
And you've got justice.
570
00:22:44,260 --> 00:22:46,900
So you've got justice, the sword of the Lord,
571
00:22:46,900 --> 00:22:49,200
and you've got mercy, the grace of God,
572
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,140
on each side of the Law.
573
00:22:51,140 --> 00:22:53,200
So the Law sits between these,
574
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,400
which is really interesting.
575
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:59,240
Going on around, the next one, that leads to education.
576
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,380
And so education is a mom.
577
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,480
It's a mother.
578
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,220
And she's sitting and guess what she's got in her hand?
579
00:23:06,220 --> 00:23:07,060
The Bible.
580
00:23:07,060 --> 00:23:08,380
The Bible.
581
00:23:08,380 --> 00:23:10,480
She's pointing to an open Bible
582
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,120
as though she's giving instruction and direction.
583
00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:14,660
And under here, you can't see it,
584
00:23:14,660 --> 00:23:16,120
but it's a mother and a child
585
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:17,720
where the mother is the teacher
586
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,600
and she's the leader of the home in terms of education.
587
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:21,760
Sounds like there's a message here
588
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,800
about what leads to good education.
589
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,600
Faith leading to morality,
590
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,000
leading to justice and mercy and Law,
591
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,140
creating a basis for how we teach and train our young people.
592
00:23:33,140 --> 00:23:34,380
This is the secret sauce.
593
00:23:34,380 --> 00:23:36,840
This is the recipe for how they did it
594
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,740
and how we need to return to doing it,
595
00:23:38,740 --> 00:23:41,020
which we're beginning to see some things
596
00:23:41,020 --> 00:23:43,060
come up on the scene that are like that.
597
00:23:43,060 --> 00:23:44,620
On either side of education,
598
00:23:44,620 --> 00:23:47,320
on that you have wisdom on one side,
599
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,300
and on the other you have youth.
600
00:23:49,300 --> 00:23:53,600
So we're trying to impart wisdom to youth through education.
601
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,060
And then the final figure,
602
00:23:55,060 --> 00:23:57,940
which is like stinking Arnold Schwarzenegger
603
00:23:57,940 --> 00:23:59,300
back in his prime.
604
00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:00,340
This dude is a beast.
605
00:24:00,340 --> 00:24:01,280
He is a warrior.
606
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,700
He's a soldier.
607
00:24:02,700 --> 00:24:04,380
And he's actually got his,
608
00:24:04,380 --> 00:24:06,980
he's got a broken chain in one hand,
609
00:24:06,980 --> 00:24:10,480
which is broken under his foot in his hand.
610
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,480
He's got a sword in another hand and he's looking out.
611
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,080
And on either side of this, you've got tyranny.
612
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,020
And on the other side, you have peace.
613
00:24:20,020 --> 00:24:21,120
What's the name of this one?
614
00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:22,320
This one is Liberty.
615
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,160
Liberty.
616
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,000
Yeah, sorry.
617
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:24,960
Thanks for bringing that up.
618
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,700
So that's Liberty.
619
00:24:26,700 --> 00:24:29,160
So this dude is like, I mean,
620
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,500
what's amazing is the anatomical correctness.
621
00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:35,340
I mean, I doubt there were many people
622
00:24:35,340 --> 00:24:36,700
that looked like that in their day,
623
00:24:36,700 --> 00:24:38,280
but these looked like the Greek gods
624
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,100
that were carved.
625
00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:40,540
The Adonis, right?
626
00:24:40,540 --> 00:24:43,180
And I mean, this dude looks like he could throw down
627
00:24:43,180 --> 00:24:44,440
and handle something.
628
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,820
Underneath, he's got a lion over here on this side,
629
00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:53,820
but under here, he's got his foot on the head of a crown.
630
00:24:54,860 --> 00:24:56,420
And it's the king being defeated.
631
00:24:56,420 --> 00:24:57,260
Wow.
632
00:24:57,260 --> 00:24:58,400
Yeah, through Liberty.
633
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,460
And so those are the four figures,
634
00:25:00,460 --> 00:25:05,460
morality, law, education, and liberty.
635
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,680
And on top, you have faith with her pointing to the sky.
636
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,280
So that was such an amazing trip to go see that
637
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,840
and see what this country is built on.
638
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,180
Adam and I have been having a lot of conversations
639
00:25:18,180 --> 00:25:19,240
about this.
640
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,980
We believe that the Lord has,
641
00:25:20,980 --> 00:25:23,680
it's been hidden not from us, but for us,
642
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,020
and people are finding it and beginning to realize
643
00:25:26,020 --> 00:25:27,220
this is it.
644
00:25:27,220 --> 00:25:29,120
This is what we need to return to.
645
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:30,720
And so that's something that's on our heart.
646
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,300
We're praying about what to do about it.
647
00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:36,500
You know what I love is,
648
00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:39,400
this wasn't, again, this wasn't just a cool sounding recipe.
649
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:44,400
This produced so much fruit that was unheard of
650
00:25:45,140 --> 00:25:47,300
in the world before or since.
651
00:25:47,300 --> 00:25:49,540
I mean, if you take a look,
652
00:25:49,540 --> 00:25:53,740
America's effect on evangelism worldwide,
653
00:25:53,740 --> 00:25:57,320
the number of places the gospel found its way to
654
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,220
because of missionaries, prophets, and evangelists
655
00:26:01,220 --> 00:26:03,620
that were birthed out of this type of thinking,
656
00:26:03,620 --> 00:26:05,220
out of this foundation,
657
00:26:05,220 --> 00:26:07,200
is unlike anything the world's ever seen.
658
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,100
There was an explosion of the gospel,
659
00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:11,160
not just in the nation, but everywhere,
660
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,800
as a result of what these guys built
661
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,940
as the foundation for the nation.
662
00:26:15,940 --> 00:26:17,180
Same with charity.
663
00:26:17,180 --> 00:26:19,200
So you are so spot on.
664
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,500
So think about what you just said.
665
00:26:20,500 --> 00:26:23,740
I mean, you really just sparked something in me.
666
00:26:23,740 --> 00:26:25,420
The very first thing that happens
667
00:26:25,420 --> 00:26:28,580
when faith is introduced as the primer,
668
00:26:28,580 --> 00:26:29,980
I mean, it's on top of everything.
669
00:26:29,980 --> 00:26:31,780
It's over everything,
670
00:26:31,780 --> 00:26:34,280
but morality is the first thing that's produced.
671
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,360
Morality with evangelists and prophets,
672
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:39,120
I mean, and the word of God.
673
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:42,360
And that is how you found a work.
674
00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:44,960
So you gave a sermon a while back, it was so good.
675
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,800
And you're talking about inputs, inputs and outcomes.
676
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,840
And the thing about a recipe
677
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,300
that I learned the hard way as a young person was
678
00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:58,040
if I followed the recipe like it was written
679
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,320
and how it was directed and the exact measurements,
680
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,920
the outcome was always good and it was always the same.
681
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,580
But if I got creative or lazy or short what a shortcut.
682
00:27:09,580 --> 00:27:10,760
So we don't need this ingredient.
683
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,460
Yeah, we don't need to melt the butter.
684
00:27:12,460 --> 00:27:13,720
Why would you need to melt it?
685
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,000
I mean, there's silly little things
686
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,300
that seems so nuanced,
687
00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:21,160
but they actually impacted the outcome.
688
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,740
What's happening right now, and I wanna just share this.
689
00:27:24,740 --> 00:27:28,880
I got a slide here that I'll put on the newsletter,
690
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,340
but it's from CBN News.
691
00:27:31,340 --> 00:27:33,720
And it says this, it's a headline that says
692
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,780
they want God in quotes.
693
00:27:35,780 --> 00:27:40,020
8,000 students seek Jesus and huge Kentucky revival.
694
00:27:40,020 --> 00:27:42,480
2,000 give their lives to Christ.
695
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,320
Amazing.
696
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,420
And it was 30 degrees out there.
697
00:27:45,420 --> 00:27:46,660
And when they baptized them,
698
00:27:46,660 --> 00:27:49,620
baptized them in the back of U-Haul trucks.
699
00:27:49,620 --> 00:27:51,460
Now I don't know, I don't have a picture of that.
700
00:27:51,460 --> 00:27:53,400
So I'm not sure if they had tubs they put in there
701
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,540
or like maybe they put those water troughs probably
702
00:27:56,540 --> 00:27:57,840
in there, but I don't care.
703
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,240
30 degrees is 30 degrees.
704
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,540
That's how you know it was for real.
705
00:28:00,540 --> 00:28:02,080
And there's no heaters in the back of those trucks.
706
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,640
So these kids, hundreds of them got baptized,
707
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,240
not 2,000, 2,000 gave their lives to Christ.
708
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,540
Many of those were baptized that night.
709
00:28:10,540 --> 00:28:13,920
This tells me that faith is happening again.
710
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,720
We have a window right now where faith is being expressed.
711
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,160
People are hungry.
712
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,560
We talked about the Wall Street Journal
713
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:22,800
last time we were together,
714
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,360
up 22% in Bible sales from young men.
715
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:27,760
I was gonna say, it's not just that that's happening,
716
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,200
but who it's happening with.
717
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,740
I mean, we're seeing young men wake up.
718
00:28:30,740 --> 00:28:34,500
I mean, it's right there on the recipe, right?
719
00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:36,200
It's right there on the monument.
720
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,240
I'm seeing all this begin to happen.
721
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,680
And if we will follow the recipe
722
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,180
and begin to get back to these things,
723
00:28:43,180 --> 00:28:45,120
these foundational principles,
724
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,720
I'm telling you the outcome will be our glorious days,
725
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,160
the most glorious days America's ever seen.
726
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,920
And we will become a force for the gospel
727
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,120
again on this planet.
728
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,460
I mean, I'm thankful what's going on in Iraq
729
00:28:58,460 --> 00:29:01,460
as it's growing, man, Christianity is exploding there.
730
00:29:01,460 --> 00:29:04,200
We've seen it happen in the underground church in China,
731
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,540
but America is poised to become
732
00:29:07,540 --> 00:29:12,540
that missionary-sending nation again.
733
00:29:13,580 --> 00:29:16,180
It's almost like the heart of the nation is being softened
734
00:29:16,180 --> 00:29:19,480
and people are opening up to truth again
735
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,280
in ways that they haven't in a long time.
736
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,160
And it's the moment that the church has been waiting for
737
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,060
and we better step up and be bold
738
00:29:26,060 --> 00:29:28,620
and speak truth because of love
739
00:29:28,620 --> 00:29:31,900
and not be afraid because people are ready for it.
740
00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:33,760
And we gotta deliver.
741
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,960
So how do we, Pastor Brian, Pastor Brian,
742
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,940
how do we bring this down to where people live?
743
00:29:39,940 --> 00:29:42,380
Because you and I, we're talking at 30,000 feet here, right?
744
00:29:42,380 --> 00:29:44,840
I mean, we're fired up about it because we see it
745
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,800
and it's exciting for us.
746
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,580
These are the things that are happening right now
747
00:29:48,580 --> 00:29:51,080
in our nation and things being discovered,
748
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,840
rediscovered like this,
749
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,060
are things we've prayed about for decades.
750
00:29:55,060 --> 00:29:57,320
And here we are on the precipice
751
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,720
of maybe one of the greatest revivals in history
752
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,520
already beginning to happen.
753
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,660
Now, that's great.
754
00:30:03,660 --> 00:30:05,700
And we can talk about that in big glowing terms
755
00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:07,600
and people get excited and they cheer,
756
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,860
but how does that translate down to a mom?
757
00:30:09,860 --> 00:30:12,340
How does that translate down to a student?
758
00:30:12,340 --> 00:30:15,100
How does it translate down to a dad,
759
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:17,480
or a boss or supervisor,
760
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,880
or a worker being a massive corporation?
761
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,720
How does this translate down to where we live?
762
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,920
Well, one of our recent discipleship classes that you taught
763
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,920
really drilled down to how a nation has changed
764
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,880
and it all starts in the hearts of the people.
765
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,000
If on an individual level and on a family level,
766
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:42,000
we don't prioritize allowing God to have his way
767
00:30:43,140 --> 00:30:45,500
in our own personal hearts and lives,
768
00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:49,280
there's no way to see societal change.
769
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,900
So it really, it's the old phrase,
770
00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:54,580
if it is to be, it starts with me.
771
00:30:54,580 --> 00:30:58,380
The more I submit my heart to the Lord,
772
00:30:58,380 --> 00:31:03,120
get in his word, let myself be transformed
773
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,220
by being with him and being washed in truth
774
00:31:07,220 --> 00:31:09,260
over and over and over again,
775
00:31:09,260 --> 00:31:12,100
the more I'm gonna leak out what I'm full of.
776
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:17,100
And the good news is, is God has opened a window in time
777
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,700
where as we leak out truth,
778
00:31:20,700 --> 00:31:25,280
people are gonna receive it and it's gonna bear fruit,
779
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,340
starting at home around the dinner table.
780
00:31:28,340 --> 00:31:30,620
You thought maybe your kids weren't listening before,
781
00:31:30,620 --> 00:31:33,180
or maybe your parents were too far gone
782
00:31:33,180 --> 00:31:35,220
and they didn't wanna hear any of this stuff.
783
00:31:35,220 --> 00:31:36,720
It's time to try again.
784
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,460
It's time to speak up again.
785
00:31:38,460 --> 00:31:40,560
Maybe you've gone quiet for a while
786
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,860
and you stopped sharing what you believed in
787
00:31:42,860 --> 00:31:45,200
because you thought it was falling on deaf ears.
788
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,800
Then the Lord can open a person's ears
789
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,740
and a nation's ears in a moment by his grace
790
00:31:51,740 --> 00:31:54,000
and by his power and we're seeing that happen.
791
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,740
And so, I think it's time for faith to rise again
792
00:31:57,740 --> 00:32:01,940
in our hearts to believe that man, God wants to move
793
00:32:01,940 --> 00:32:05,140
and he's just waiting for somebody who he can partner with.
794
00:32:05,140 --> 00:32:07,480
Wow, well said brother.
795
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,420
Round the kitchen table, I love that.
796
00:32:09,420 --> 00:32:11,520
Right where we live, right where we work,
797
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:12,920
right where we play,
798
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,660
that's the traffic pattern of our lives.
799
00:32:15,660 --> 00:32:17,960
And so in the dailies, the daily traffic pattern,
800
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,000
what do you do on a normal day?
801
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,660
Well, how would you do it different
802
00:32:22,660 --> 00:32:24,400
if you knew the secret recipe,
803
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,540
if you knew the secret sauce,
804
00:32:25,540 --> 00:32:28,000
you knew you had the recipe in front of you.
805
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,600
You had the idea that starts with faith,
806
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,840
but then it also has got to impact morality.
807
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,480
It's got the way we live.
808
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,180
Then that's gonna lead to law that becomes guide rails
809
00:32:40,180 --> 00:32:42,760
for instead of having anarchy and chaos,
810
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,280
there's now guide rails,
811
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,920
which leads obviously to education.
812
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,860
Which should inform how we interpret the events
813
00:32:50,860 --> 00:32:53,660
that are happening even politically in our nation.
814
00:32:53,660 --> 00:32:57,760
Knowing how to vote and what to prioritize
815
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,640
and what to not get caught up in
816
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,280
and how to even understand things that are happening
817
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,080
with the kind of the revolution
818
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,900
of the federal government right now.
819
00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:09,580
Cause there's, you could get caught up in storylines
820
00:33:09,580 --> 00:33:12,240
with that, hearing personal stories of this person
821
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,760
and that person and maybe go,
822
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,280
maybe we shouldn't make all this change.
823
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,920
Maybe we shouldn't try to uproot things.
824
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,520
But if you understand the bigger picture,
825
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,820
then you understand like,
826
00:33:22,820 --> 00:33:27,660
it's gonna, there's gonna be a cost to writing a ship.
827
00:33:27,660 --> 00:33:28,860
You know? Absolutely.
828
00:33:28,860 --> 00:33:31,460
And you'll understand why that needs to happen.
829
00:33:31,460 --> 00:33:33,560
And it's worth even some of the pain
830
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,740
that we have to go through to make right things
831
00:33:36,740 --> 00:33:38,180
that have been wrong for a long time.
832
00:33:38,180 --> 00:33:40,400
Wow, so true.
833
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,540
Man, that's so well said.
834
00:33:42,540 --> 00:33:44,640
The pain of change has to outweigh
835
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,420
the pain of staying the same.
836
00:33:46,420 --> 00:33:49,380
That's what my boss, Dave Ramsey used to say.
837
00:33:49,380 --> 00:33:51,180
And in Jeremiah chapter one,
838
00:33:52,620 --> 00:33:55,960
we hear about the call of Jeremiah to the ministry.
839
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,360
And you know, we always think somebody gets called
840
00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,600
to ministry, everybody claps.
841
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:00,860
Oh, that's wonderful.
842
00:34:00,860 --> 00:34:02,100
Now you're gonna go to seminary
843
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:03,940
and get your ministry degree.
844
00:34:03,940 --> 00:34:08,200
And you know, we just have this soft idea about it.
845
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:13,200
But when God called Jeremiah to ministry, says this,
846
00:34:14,380 --> 00:34:15,780
then the Lord put out his hand and touched my mouth.
847
00:34:15,780 --> 00:34:17,940
This is Jeremiah saying, this is what he did.
848
00:34:17,940 --> 00:34:20,520
He literally touched my mouth and said to me,
849
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,980
behold, I put my words in your mouth.
850
00:34:22,980 --> 00:34:26,760
See, I have set you this day over nations and over kingdoms.
851
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,180
And then to do what?
852
00:34:28,180 --> 00:34:29,160
I said, what am I gonna do?
853
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,260
I'm gonna go minister people.
854
00:34:30,260 --> 00:34:33,260
He says, to pluck up and to tear down.
855
00:34:33,260 --> 00:34:36,100
To destroy and to overthrow.
856
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:39,960
And then it ends with to build and to plant.
857
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,540
So there has to be disruption.
858
00:34:43,540 --> 00:34:44,700
You said revolution.
859
00:34:44,700 --> 00:34:47,500
I think I would say reformation.
860
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:50,420
Our government's experiencing a reforming.
861
00:34:50,420 --> 00:34:54,180
They're reforming and going back to foundational truths
862
00:34:54,180 --> 00:34:56,420
and basic granny's common sense.
863
00:34:56,420 --> 00:34:57,860
Right?
864
00:34:57,860 --> 00:35:01,060
I mean, people are losing their mind over the DOGE
865
00:35:01,060 --> 00:35:03,420
because there are people who are losing their jobs.
866
00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:06,820
People we know and love, friends of mine here in church,
867
00:35:06,820 --> 00:35:08,800
got their note.
868
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,360
And so we know that that's gonna impact good people,
869
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,300
but reformation is hard.
870
00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:18,040
If we think that revival and reformation
871
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,240
comes without a cost, then we're naive.
872
00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:23,320
I mean, we're talking about a reformation
873
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,180
of how we have been operating for decades,
874
00:35:26,180 --> 00:35:28,520
being flipped up on its ear in a month.
875
00:35:29,620 --> 00:35:30,860
It's a lot of change.
876
00:35:30,860 --> 00:35:34,420
Whether our comfort is more important or our future.
877
00:35:34,420 --> 00:35:36,060
Exactly.
878
00:35:36,060 --> 00:35:37,220
If you think about it, I mean,
879
00:35:37,220 --> 00:35:38,600
everything we see in scripture
880
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,460
and everything we see in the founding fathers,
881
00:35:40,460 --> 00:35:42,100
they kept talking about their posterity.
882
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:43,000
Their posterity.
883
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,060
That's their kids, their grandkids.
884
00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:47,000
It's their family tree.
885
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,840
They cared more.
886
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,280
And you hear these amazing stories
887
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,380
where they were literally willing to die
888
00:35:53,380 --> 00:35:55,300
and be cast down in the mud
889
00:35:55,300 --> 00:35:57,220
so the next generation could walk over them
890
00:35:57,220 --> 00:35:58,820
and get to the next place.
891
00:35:58,820 --> 00:36:02,080
I mean, these very vivid descriptions
892
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,660
of what it meant to lay your life down.
893
00:36:04,660 --> 00:36:06,460
And that's what they laid down in the mud
894
00:36:06,460 --> 00:36:08,360
so the next generation could walk over them
895
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,660
to get to the next place.
896
00:36:09,660 --> 00:36:12,060
And that's gotta be a part of,
897
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,900
we gotta get over our comfort
898
00:36:14,900 --> 00:36:17,260
and all of our convenience things and say,
899
00:36:17,260 --> 00:36:19,840
wait, there may be a price to be paid
900
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,200
to be truly free people, a free and just society.
901
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,280
And if our forefathers were willing to pay that price,
902
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,440
somewhere along the way we got comfortable,
903
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,720
we let go of the reins,
904
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:33,780
we stepped out of the public square.
905
00:36:33,780 --> 00:36:36,960
Now it's time to get uncomfortable for a while.
906
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,160
And being comfortable is highly overrated.
907
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,400
Feels good in the moment, but you don't get anything done.
908
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,220
You don't get anywhere.
909
00:36:43,220 --> 00:36:46,320
And we need to be okay with being challenged
910
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,400
to be uncomfortable, to be inconvenienced
911
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,400
and to even have our lifestyle upended
912
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,240
if it's for the greater good of reforming this nation
913
00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:58,980
back to faith, morality, liberty, law, education.
914
00:36:58,980 --> 00:37:01,480
And it'll only work if we become a people
915
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,040
who is thinking about future generations.
916
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,480
If we're only thinking about right now, we won't do it.
917
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,320
That's it.
918
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,160
That's exactly right.
919
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,220
If it's all about me, if it begins with me,
920
00:37:11,220 --> 00:37:12,860
but it doesn't end with me.
921
00:37:12,860 --> 00:37:15,920
I'm only the catalyst for the next generation.
922
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,700
It's really generational transfer.
923
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:21,840
It's a thinking of, I'm gonna think more about my kids.
924
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,160
And I'm not talking about just leaving them
925
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,640
physical inheritance, though that's a great thing.
926
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,300
I'm talking about leaving them a heritage
927
00:37:28,300 --> 00:37:32,080
that's bigger than just some money at the end of this thing.
928
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,980
Well, I think legacy and heritage thinking
929
00:37:33,980 --> 00:37:35,440
is really the type of thinking
930
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,020
that actually flows from the heart of God.
931
00:37:38,020 --> 00:37:41,080
That doesn't come from anywhere else other than him.
932
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,560
He's the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
933
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:44,380
That's right.
934
00:37:44,380 --> 00:37:46,760
I mean, he's even described transgenerationally.
935
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,420
If you leave God out of the equation,
936
00:37:48,420 --> 00:37:52,320
there's no real basis for generational thinking.
937
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:57,340
The eternal mindset comes from knowing God.
938
00:37:58,500 --> 00:37:59,800
And that's why that's gotta come from the church.
939
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,280
It's gotta be driven by a nation who's got as the Lord,
940
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,400
who understands right foundations and morality and faith
941
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,540
and all these principles that you talked about.
942
00:38:07,540 --> 00:38:10,680
If we leave that out, we will never come to the conclusion
943
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,440
that it's about future generations.
944
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,820
Therefore, I'm gonna segue here.
945
00:38:15,820 --> 00:38:17,760
Therefore it comes down to the family.
946
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,760
Re-evaluating and revaluing our families.
947
00:38:23,620 --> 00:38:26,500
My goodness, it's so easy during those years
948
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:28,600
when you get caught up in soccer
949
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,100
and school functions and sports
950
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:34,300
and you're doing it for them,
951
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:37,240
but you catch yourself going through the motions
952
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:39,480
and driving to the different events and doing it
953
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,180
and then looking for your space in the middle of it
954
00:38:42,180 --> 00:38:45,680
and handing them a screen just to get a little peace.
955
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,360
And we do that forgetting that, wait a minute,
956
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,020
we're raising up the next generation of presidents,
957
00:38:51,020 --> 00:38:54,360
attorneys, attorney generals, lieutenant governors,
958
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,660
wait, we're raising up the next generation of leaders
959
00:38:57,660 --> 00:39:01,740
or not and pastors or not.
960
00:39:01,740 --> 00:39:04,000
The next generation of educators.
961
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,000
So when we lose sight of that
962
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,000
because we get caught up in the now,
963
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,740
so much that it's all about, oh gosh, I just need a nap.
964
00:39:11,740 --> 00:39:13,340
So I'm gonna go put my kid to sleep
965
00:39:13,340 --> 00:39:15,040
or I'm gonna go give him some,
966
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,660
yeah, man, we're constantly trying to push back
967
00:39:19,660 --> 00:39:21,980
from the very thing we need to be engaging in
968
00:39:21,980 --> 00:39:24,220
and that's the hard work of raising kids.
969
00:39:24,220 --> 00:39:26,400
I look back over it and if I,
970
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,860
right now I wish I knew what I know now.
971
00:39:29,860 --> 00:39:31,860
I would have done things so different.
972
00:39:31,860 --> 00:39:34,040
I so, in a way I envy you
973
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,240
because you're at a place right now
974
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:40,540
where you've got those kids still in those formative years
975
00:39:40,540 --> 00:39:42,040
and you're able to form them.
976
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,180
I'm in the middle of it.
977
00:39:43,180 --> 00:39:45,340
Oh my gosh, you're so in the middle of it.
978
00:39:45,340 --> 00:39:47,180
And I mean, I've come face to face
979
00:39:47,180 --> 00:39:51,020
with my own selfishness so many times.
980
00:39:51,020 --> 00:39:52,520
Having kids will do that.
981
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,920
Yeah, and I'm watching them reflect me
982
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,660
in good ways and in bad ways
983
00:39:57,660 --> 00:40:00,160
and when it hits you like, oh my gosh,
984
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,700
I'm forming them.
985
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:06,760
They're becoming what I'm putting into them.
986
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,600
It's sobering, it's heavy and it's a responsibility
987
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,680
and I wanna do it well.
988
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,940
I want God to have his way in me so that they can become.
989
00:40:16,940 --> 00:40:19,680
So how do we help people pivot?
990
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,540
Okay, so they're getting this information.
991
00:40:21,540 --> 00:40:24,760
They're going, wow, you know, I have fallen prey to that
992
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,420
where I'm just kinda going through the motions with my kids
993
00:40:27,420 --> 00:40:29,160
and just looking forward to them graduating
994
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,720
and moving off and going to school or whatever,
995
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:32,820
getting out on their own.
996
00:40:32,820 --> 00:40:37,840
What can I do right now to begin to reform them?
997
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,500
We know they're being formed
998
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:43,400
and I might need to reform.
999
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,940
So how do we start?
1000
00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:46,940
I've got an idea, but I wanna hear what you got to say.
1001
00:40:46,940 --> 00:40:50,340
Well, you know, Jesus summed everything up
1002
00:40:50,340 --> 00:40:51,420
into two commandments, right?
1003
00:40:51,420 --> 00:40:52,620
He said, love the Lord your God
1004
00:40:52,620 --> 00:40:53,920
with all your heart, mind, soul and strength.
1005
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,360
And he said, the second commandment is like it.
1006
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,560
He said, love your neighbor as yourself.
1007
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,620
And the key in that commandment
1008
00:41:00,620 --> 00:41:03,820
is understanding what it means to love yourself.
1009
00:41:03,820 --> 00:41:08,660
And if you don't prioritize your relationship with God,
1010
00:41:08,660 --> 00:41:10,000
you don't love yourself.
1011
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,500
And I will not be able to love my neighbor
1012
00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:15,240
or my family or my kids any better
1013
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:17,640
than I'm first loving myself.
1014
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,840
Which means if I don't start with me,
1015
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,380
if I don't go deep with the Lord,
1016
00:41:22,380 --> 00:41:27,080
if I'm not a man who every day repents
1017
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,760
and realigns with truth and with God
1018
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,560
and let my kids see me do that,
1019
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,720
then it doesn't matter what I want for them.
1020
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:35,420
It doesn't matter what I try to pass on to them.
1021
00:41:35,420 --> 00:41:36,720
It matters who I am.
1022
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:39,760
Because they'll become who I am, not what I teach them.
1023
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,000
Man, you nailed that.
1024
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,060
I mean, you teed it up and crushed it
1025
00:41:43,060 --> 00:41:45,360
300 yards down the fairway.
1026
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,260
That is true.
1027
00:41:46,260 --> 00:41:47,940
It comes back to a heart.
1028
00:41:47,940 --> 00:41:50,700
It comes back to our own hearts.
1029
00:41:50,700 --> 00:41:55,380
Being completely realigned with God.
1030
00:41:56,540 --> 00:41:59,240
And that means realigning with his word
1031
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:01,280
and realigning in relationship with him.
1032
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,360
It's not just enough to know the Bible.
1033
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,860
Content's not gonna change anything.
1034
00:42:05,860 --> 00:42:07,180
It'll help.
1035
00:42:07,180 --> 00:42:10,160
It definitely sets up the potential for transformation
1036
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,520
and change and revelation, we say.
1037
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,560
But information is not revelation.
1038
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:15,860
There's a difference.
1039
00:42:15,860 --> 00:42:18,060
I know a lot of Christians or people who say they are
1040
00:42:18,060 --> 00:42:21,440
who can quote the Bible backwards and forwards,
1041
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,240
but they're mean-spirited.
1042
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:26,700
They treat waiters and waitresses with disrespect.
1043
00:42:26,700 --> 00:42:29,240
They're dishonorable to their spouses or whatever
1044
00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:30,140
and go down the list.
1045
00:42:30,140 --> 00:42:31,420
They cheat on their income taxes.
1046
00:42:31,420 --> 00:42:33,040
But when you let...
1047
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,420
That actually becomes more destructive.
1048
00:42:35,420 --> 00:42:36,880
That combination.
1049
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,380
It's like a vaccine.
1050
00:42:39,660 --> 00:42:41,220
Not like the ones we've been talking about lately.
1051
00:42:41,220 --> 00:42:42,520
I'm talking about a real vaccine
1052
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,720
that actually inoculates you.
1053
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:46,260
You get just enough of something
1054
00:42:46,260 --> 00:42:48,700
that you actually become dangerous.
1055
00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:50,100
You can repel it.
1056
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:52,600
You develop antibodies to it.
1057
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,240
So getting back and having our hearts transformed
1058
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:58,740
on an ongoing basis.
1059
00:42:58,740 --> 00:43:00,500
The greatest thing I could ever give my kids
1060
00:43:00,500 --> 00:43:02,000
is for them to see me praying.
1061
00:43:03,140 --> 00:43:05,480
To see me, to walk in the door
1062
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,940
and they see me bent over my Bible
1063
00:43:07,940 --> 00:43:12,220
and praying for them, for my family, for my wife,
1064
00:43:12,220 --> 00:43:13,660
or kneeling down at my bedside
1065
00:43:13,660 --> 00:43:14,480
or whatever.
1066
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,480
They walk into my office and I'm praying
1067
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,760
or I'm listening to something that's putting life into me.
1068
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,720
Those are the things that you want your kids
1069
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:24,560
to catch you doing.
1070
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:25,860
Yeah, I think that.
1071
00:43:25,860 --> 00:43:27,540
And the other thing I think is really powerful
1072
00:43:27,540 --> 00:43:30,000
is when your kids see you owning your mistakes
1073
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:30,840
and repenting.
1074
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,000
Absolutely.
1075
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,180
Absolutely.
1076
00:43:33,180 --> 00:43:34,500
You don't have to not make mistakes.
1077
00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:35,440
Show them how to handle it.
1078
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,400
That's it.
1079
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,940
You will make mistakes,
1080
00:43:37,940 --> 00:43:40,940
but when we hide them or gloss them over
1081
00:43:40,940 --> 00:43:43,140
because we don't wanna look bad in front of our kids,
1082
00:43:43,140 --> 00:43:44,980
our kids need to see us being human.
1083
00:43:44,980 --> 00:43:48,260
We're human beings, but they need to see us being human.
1084
00:43:48,260 --> 00:43:52,020
And that means repenting, saying you're sorry.
1085
00:43:52,020 --> 00:43:53,160
I made a mistake.
1086
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,000
Oh gosh.
1087
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,300
Even you bringing it up.
1088
00:43:55,300 --> 00:43:56,960
I remember times when I sat down with my kids
1089
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,960
and said, I messed up.
1090
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,540
I'm so sorry.
1091
00:44:00,540 --> 00:44:03,100
You know, I missed it.
1092
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:05,900
And that grew us closer together.
1093
00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:07,640
Instead of them disrespecting me,
1094
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,380
they actually respected me more.
1095
00:44:09,380 --> 00:44:11,180
Well, you're giving them the empowerment
1096
00:44:11,180 --> 00:44:14,220
to be able to do that themselves without shame.
1097
00:44:14,220 --> 00:44:15,920
So these are some practical things
1098
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,660
that we can do on an ongoing basis.
1099
00:44:18,660 --> 00:44:23,020
And I would say, start with you and your heart
1100
00:44:23,020 --> 00:44:25,060
being realigned to God.
1101
00:44:25,060 --> 00:44:27,760
So, you know, we can talk about reforming our children
1102
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,660
and reforming education law and all these different things.
1103
00:44:30,660 --> 00:44:32,260
Those are high level things,
1104
00:44:32,260 --> 00:44:33,940
but let's start at the kitchen table.
1105
00:44:33,940 --> 00:44:35,300
Maybe start in your bedroom.
1106
00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:36,400
Maybe when you wake up, you say,
1107
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,040
good morning, Holy Spirit.
1108
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,300
Good morning, Lord Jesus.
1109
00:44:39,300 --> 00:44:41,300
Good morning, Abba Father.
1110
00:44:41,300 --> 00:44:43,000
What do you want to do today?
1111
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,980
Maybe start with the Lord's prayer.
1112
00:44:44,980 --> 00:44:45,820
I do that.
1113
00:44:45,820 --> 00:44:46,640
I start with the Lord's model.
1114
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,480
I pray two versions.
1115
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,920
The original King James version.
1116
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,320
I always start with that.
1117
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,380
And then I do my own, in my words, version of it.
1118
00:44:55,380 --> 00:44:56,620
And I always do that.
1119
00:44:56,620 --> 00:44:57,860
And I'll do that several times throughout the day.
1120
00:44:57,860 --> 00:44:59,660
It just keeps me anchored.
1121
00:44:59,660 --> 00:45:02,160
It keeps me focused on your kingdom come,
1122
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,100
your will be done on earth as it is heaven.
1123
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:05,600
That prayer covers a lot of ground.
1124
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:06,440
Oh, it does.
1125
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:07,600
Jesus knew how to make it succinct.
1126
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,600
Huge for me.
1127
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,760
It's been a game changer for me.
1128
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,800
But that's just one, you know,
1129
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,900
just one thing that you can do that will help you out.
1130
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,820
And then learn some daily rhythms.
1131
00:45:20,940 --> 00:45:24,020
I kind of do a morning, noon and night thing.
1132
00:45:24,020 --> 00:45:25,420
It's become so natural.
1133
00:45:25,420 --> 00:45:27,060
I don't even think about it anymore.
1134
00:45:27,060 --> 00:45:29,660
I'll just catch myself in the afternoon going,
1135
00:45:29,660 --> 00:45:31,280
I need some, I need some word time.
1136
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,160
I'll just do it autopilot.
1137
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,120
I don't even like sit down and formally plan to do it.
1138
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,600
It may even be if all I have is my phone in my hand
1139
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,300
and I'm sitting waiting on my battery
1140
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:43,800
to get changed at Walmart, you know, or whatever.
1141
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,340
I've got a few minutes there.
1142
00:45:45,340 --> 00:45:46,940
I can either scroll Instagram
1143
00:45:46,940 --> 00:45:49,880
and read all the latest news junk,
1144
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,100
or I can open it and just look at a few scriptures
1145
00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:54,380
and let those seep down into my soul.
1146
00:45:54,380 --> 00:45:55,220
Yeah, it's funny.
1147
00:45:55,220 --> 00:45:56,940
The Bible is such an interesting book.
1148
00:45:56,940 --> 00:45:58,080
The more you read it,
1149
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,980
the more you hunger for it and want to read it.
1150
00:45:59,980 --> 00:46:02,080
The less you read it, the less you hunger for it.
1151
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,980
You know, you have to stir it up, you know.
1152
00:46:04,980 --> 00:46:06,420
So you get that ball rolling,
1153
00:46:06,420 --> 00:46:08,720
you'll find yourself morning, noon and night saying,
1154
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:09,660
man, I need something.
1155
00:46:09,660 --> 00:46:12,560
I need a shot of the word in my soul right now.
1156
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,900
So it's like gasoline in your car, you know.
1157
00:46:14,900 --> 00:46:17,000
I mean, you get on empty and you're running on fumes.
1158
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:17,840
You'll know it.
1159
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,160
Your car will tell you that.
1160
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,200
It has an indicator that says you're low.
1161
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,080
Mine has a light that comes on and it beeps.
1162
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,500
And then it comes up on the screen
1163
00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:27,700
and I have to manually get it off of there
1164
00:46:27,700 --> 00:46:29,040
to get rid of it.
1165
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,580
Because it's telling me, hey, you're about to stop.
1166
00:46:31,580 --> 00:46:33,020
Your engine's about to die.
1167
00:46:33,020 --> 00:46:35,280
You know, you've got to get to a gas station.
1168
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,120
And there's something built into us,
1169
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,260
not just something, but someone, the Holy Spirit,
1170
00:46:41,260 --> 00:46:43,500
who sort of tries to throw up flags and say,
1171
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:47,760
hey, man, you're running on fumes here.
1172
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,560
And if you don't get some fuel, you're going to crash.
1173
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,900
And I was watching or listening to John Eldridge
1174
00:46:55,900 --> 00:46:58,540
talk about how during the holidays,
1175
00:46:58,540 --> 00:47:00,080
he got a little off of his rhythm.
1176
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,980
He has a morning, noon, and night thing.
1177
00:47:01,980 --> 00:47:04,840
And he said, my sacred rhythm got messed up
1178
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,740
because of the holidays and travel and all that
1179
00:47:06,740 --> 00:47:07,920
and got out of my rhythm.
1180
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:12,920
He said, I really had to focus to get my rhythm back.
1181
00:47:14,260 --> 00:47:15,080
And he said, but it's a sacred rhythm.
1182
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,820
It's important to me.
1183
00:47:16,820 --> 00:47:18,960
And he was sharing that in a newsletter
1184
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,360
and that's what I've got laying over there,
1185
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,300
a newsletter with his followers or listeners.
1186
00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:27,140
He was saying, guys, if I did it, you did it too, probably.
1187
00:47:27,140 --> 00:47:28,660
You got caught up in travel
1188
00:47:28,660 --> 00:47:31,140
and going to see these grandparents and visit these people
1189
00:47:31,140 --> 00:47:33,040
and you're out of your work schedule,
1190
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,500
you're out of your normal flow
1191
00:47:34,500 --> 00:47:36,240
because you had some days off.
1192
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:37,480
It's easy.
1193
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,180
He said, I can function for a few days like that
1194
00:47:40,180 --> 00:47:43,980
and I'm fine, but then I find my tanks running low.
1195
00:47:43,980 --> 00:47:47,260
And he said, it's like warning, warning.
1196
00:47:47,260 --> 00:47:48,780
We need those right rhythms.
1197
00:47:48,780 --> 00:47:49,660
We're built for it.
1198
00:47:49,660 --> 00:47:50,960
We really are.
1199
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:51,960
And we want to help you with that.
1200
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:52,960
We want to encourage you in that.
1201
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,000
We gave you a couple of things to do.
1202
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,360
First of all, get back to the Bible.
1203
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,540
I would encourage you just as something that's easy
1204
00:48:00,540 --> 00:48:02,300
and in front of everybody
1205
00:48:02,300 --> 00:48:05,340
is get the YouVersion Bible app, download it.
1206
00:48:05,340 --> 00:48:06,680
It's free.
1207
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,280
It has unbelievable amount of translations
1208
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,480
of the Bible on it,
1209
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,720
but it also has many devotionals
1210
00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:15,380
that can help you on a daily basis.
1211
00:48:15,380 --> 00:48:19,380
It has Bible reading plans, many of them.
1212
00:48:19,380 --> 00:48:22,920
It's a good way, I would say a good start,
1213
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,620
but to me, it's not the finish.
1214
00:48:24,620 --> 00:48:27,260
I don't use it much anymore
1215
00:48:27,260 --> 00:48:29,600
because I've kind of got my own rhythms
1216
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,500
and my own things that I do,
1217
00:48:31,500 --> 00:48:33,740
but there are so many helps out there
1218
00:48:33,740 --> 00:48:36,340
and we want in that plethora of helps,
1219
00:48:36,340 --> 00:48:38,180
you can get lost because there can be so much
1220
00:48:38,180 --> 00:48:39,580
you don't know what to do.
1221
00:48:39,580 --> 00:48:41,380
It's like eating at Cheesecake Factory.
1222
00:48:41,380 --> 00:48:45,180
And one of the constant battles I face is distraction.
1223
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,780
And I find that the only way
1224
00:48:47,780 --> 00:48:50,880
I can successfully maintain those rhythms for me
1225
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,320
is I got to make sure that my computer and my phone
1226
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,120
and all those distractions are out of the way.
1227
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,200
Because if they're even sitting there,
1228
00:49:01,060 --> 00:49:04,300
something will buzz, something will ding,
1229
00:49:04,300 --> 00:49:05,860
something will catch my eye,
1230
00:49:05,860 --> 00:49:08,340
and I will quickly lose focus.
1231
00:49:08,340 --> 00:49:10,580
And we've been trained as a culture
1232
00:49:10,580 --> 00:49:13,640
to have loss of focus, short attention spans,
1233
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:14,740
want everything in soundbites.
1234
00:49:14,740 --> 00:49:17,540
So when you sit and you try to absorb something,
1235
00:49:17,540 --> 00:49:19,040
there's a lot competing against it
1236
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,980
unless you are intentional to remove those distractions.
1237
00:49:21,980 --> 00:49:24,780
And those distractions aren't necessarily bad things.
1238
00:49:24,780 --> 00:49:27,120
This morning at 5.50, I'm up,
1239
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,500
I get my first cup of coffee, first of several,
1240
00:49:29,500 --> 00:49:33,200
get my first cup of coffee, I sit down at my desk
1241
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,900
and immediately my phone goes off.
1242
00:49:35,900 --> 00:49:40,540
Two people at 6.05 are reaching out to me to talk.
1243
00:49:40,540 --> 00:49:45,540
And I'm like, this is when I write a day.
1244
00:49:46,580 --> 00:49:48,040
Instead of doing devotionals, I write one every day.
1245
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,440
That's just been a habit of mine for 20 something years now.
1246
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,020
That's how I do it.
1247
00:49:53,020 --> 00:49:56,280
I just learned to write and it's helped me so much,
1248
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,180
keeps me very focused.
1249
00:49:58,180 --> 00:50:03,160
And so at 6.05, I got two people live in real time,
1250
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,900
reaching out to me and I'm like, really?
1251
00:50:05,900 --> 00:50:08,800
6.05, now both of these were good people
1252
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,300
that are dear people to me.
1253
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,640
It was all I could do to not answer them back.
1254
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,640
It was all I could do to push that aside,
1255
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,600
push my phone away so I couldn't see it
1256
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,940
or hear it vibrate and get focused on what I was supposed
1257
00:50:21,940 --> 00:50:22,940
to do.
1258
00:50:22,940 --> 00:50:24,420
I don't always succeed at that.
1259
00:50:24,420 --> 00:50:25,240
I don't either.
1260
00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:26,420
It's so easy.
1261
00:50:27,580 --> 00:50:31,020
Man, while I appreciate it, sometimes I want to throw it
1262
00:50:31,020 --> 00:50:33,420
out the window at 75 miles an hour, you know,
1263
00:50:33,420 --> 00:50:34,760
and just go, really?
1264
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,360
This has gotten crazy.
1265
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:37,920
Well, folks, we hope we're helping you.
1266
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,320
We could go on all the riff all day long on this
1267
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,600
because these are things that are so near and dear
1268
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:43,940
in our heart.
1269
00:50:43,940 --> 00:50:45,040
And the reason they're near and dear to us is
1270
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,960
because we want to help you.
1271
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,940
We don't want this podcast to be just another podcast
1272
00:50:50,940 --> 00:50:52,700
and a sea of podcasts.
1273
00:50:52,700 --> 00:50:54,500
We want it to be something practical for you
1274
00:50:54,500 --> 00:50:57,240
and something that will help you on your journey of faith,
1275
00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:59,780
help you, maybe you're coming back to faith
1276
00:50:59,780 --> 00:51:02,280
from being away, maybe there's been some time passed
1277
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,220
and you're trying to get back to the Lord.
1278
00:51:04,220 --> 00:51:05,680
We want to be able to give you things
1279
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,420
that will help you with that.
1280
00:51:07,420 --> 00:51:09,060
And then on the other hand, we want to give you
1281
00:51:09,060 --> 00:51:10,920
the high level things that we talked about
1282
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,660
that are sort of the big, broad, encompassing principles
1283
00:51:14,660 --> 00:51:16,200
that talk about life.
1284
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,260
I do want to say also thank you to our supporters.
1285
00:51:19,260 --> 00:51:21,400
Those of you who send us Bitcoin,
1286
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,240
thank you so much for blessing us that way.
1287
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:27,880
Also for those who are signed up for our newsletter
1288
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,680
and who donate on a continual basis, thank you so much.
1289
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,920
It just, it means so much to Annette and I.
1290
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,820
And if you want to get our newsletter,
1291
00:51:35,820 --> 00:51:37,480
we always put it out about the time
1292
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,320
that I publish one of our podcasts,
1293
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,280
which are typically on a weekly basis,
1294
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,860
but we've missed some because Annette's
1295
00:51:43,860 --> 00:51:45,920
out of the picture for a moment.
1296
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,960
Our kitchen's almost done.
1297
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,160
Maybe next week we'll be back in the flow.
1298
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,660
Actually we'll be in Nashville next week, so maybe not.
1299
00:51:52,660 --> 00:51:54,360
The week after that we'll be back in the flow
1300
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,240
and it'll be Jimmy and Annette again.
1301
00:51:56,240 --> 00:52:00,340
But go to livingupandadownworld.com
1302
00:52:00,340 --> 00:52:02,740
and you can subscribe to our newsletter
1303
00:52:02,740 --> 00:52:03,840
and that way you'll get a heads up
1304
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,580
whenever we're putting out a podcast
1305
00:52:05,580 --> 00:52:07,680
and try to put some personal things in there
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to just let you know a little bit more about us.
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And then the other thing I would encourage you to do
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is check out the Godcaster.
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It's 24 seven live streaming worship
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and just little short daily grind,
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one minute encouragements for you during the day.
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We sprinkle those out through the whole thing.
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That's a thing that Adam Curry and I
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have worked on together and continuing to do.
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And so go to bridgefbg.com and click on Hello Fred.
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Well, what is Fred?
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Fred is Fredericksburg.
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So it's Hello Fredericksburg, Texas,
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but it's some local stuff,
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but it's broad enough that everybody can be encouraged.
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The music's always good.
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I keep it going 24 seven in my house.
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So check it out.
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Another way you can get to that
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is you can go to hellofred.fm.
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Then there's all kinds of resources,
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other podcasts that you can click on there as well.
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And so again, we just wanna be a blessing to you.
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Pastor Brian, thank you so much, man.
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You are so fun to do this with.
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This is always fun.
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I love it.
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Thanks for inviting me.
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It's about a 20 something year friendship.
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Well, age gap too, but friendship is what I was referring to,
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a relationship that we can sit down and riff on things
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because we've done life for a long time together.
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So thank you so much, brother.
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Good to be here.
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All right, our friends,
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you guys have an amazing week on purpose
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and we'll see you next time here
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on Living Up in a Down World.
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That is our heart for you,
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is to live up in this crazy world that we're in.
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Good times are ahead, my friends.
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Keep living up, keep leaking out.
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God bless you.
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We love you.
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inseparable.
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I'm recording right now, by the way.
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We're on.
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Thought we'd just talk a little bit
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before we jump into it.
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Yeah, check one, sibilance.
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Can we bring the volume in my headphones down just a little?
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Yeah.
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Perfect.
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Okay, yeah, that's better.
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Is that good?
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Yeah, it was just a little loud.
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All right.
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Well, how's your morning been so far?
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It's been good.
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I've gotten the word and got to kind of get my head right
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and just think, I got a lot of things I'm thinking about,
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I'm thinking about the Sunday out there
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and I'm thinking about next Wednesday,
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I'm thinking about this memorial service,
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I'm thinking about the men's breakfast.
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So just trying to keep them all in their buckets
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is the challenge.
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Preacher stuff, people don't realize,
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they see us at our best.
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I love what Adam Curry says.
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He says, the reason why people think it's effortless
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for you is because you make it look effortless.
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And so they don't realize you're tired
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after doing two services and it's 1.30, one o'clock,
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and people still hanging out,
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they don't realize you've been there all day already.
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And because you make it, that was a compliment.
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You make it look easy.
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Right.
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So. Yeah.
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So.
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Well, one of the things I think people don't realize
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is what preaching does to you physically,
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spiritually, emotionally.
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Like it's hard to explain even how you feel
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after you preach and teach the word of God.
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It's different than just giving a speech
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or talking to people in a classroom.
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There's something spiritual about it
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that you feel drained, not in a bad way,
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but drained coming out of it.
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After Sundays especially, or Wednesday nights,
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more Sundays because I've got the rest of the day.
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Wednesday nights, you kind of go home and you collapse.
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You can go to bed.
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But on Wednesdays, I'm usually just, I mean, I'm wiped.
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I'm just, I'm like a zombie.
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I try not to be.
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I noticed this last Sunday, I felt really good all day.
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Oh, good.
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And then at eight o'clock, I was ready to go to bed.
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I was like, I'm done.
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Okay, I'm done.
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Well, good.
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Hey, we wanna welcome our listeners today
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to Living Up In A Down World.
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And so we'll do that with a little roll in here.
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This is Pastor Jimmy and Pastor Brian Mandel.
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And we're gonna start today on Living Up In A Down World.
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We wanna welcome you.
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And we were just riffing a little bit
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before we get started.
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And you know what, I forgot to pray.
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Let's pray.
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Let's take a moment.
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Why don't you pray?
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Just make it brief.
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But let's consecrate this over to the Lord.
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Yeah, Father, thank you for the opportunity
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to sharpen each other, to speak about you,
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to speak about truth and to encourage people
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around the country listening to this
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and around the world listening to this.
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God, I pray they'd be blessed by our conversation today
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in Jesus' name, amen.
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Yeah, amen and amen.
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Well, I wanna start off with just talking a little bit
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about what's been going on in the country
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because man, get some popcorn and a Dr. Pepper
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and just read your newsfeed.
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It's been wild.
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It's like the nonstop highlight reel
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that just never quits.
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And haven't, didn't they confirm all of us, 22.
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Yeah. 22 confirmations.
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Wasn't Cash Patel the last one?
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Cash Patel.
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And there was a couple that, there were some, you know,
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that weren't highlighted so much
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or they weren't controversial per se,
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but pretty amazing that they were able
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to confirm all of them.
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Yeah. I mean, shocking really.
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It's like the NBA All-Star team is what it feels like
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going to the Olympics to, you know, dominate.
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It does feel like that.
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Like America, you know, we're number one.
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I mean, powerful.
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But I wanna just share something as we get started.
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I made a comment on Sunday and it's been,
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it's a well-known, you know, kind of a cliched comm quote.
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If you don't know your history,
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you're bound to repeat it or you're doomed to repeat it.
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You know, and so I had everybody say that out loud.
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And so since the election and since, you know,
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the confirmations and all that,
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I'm not going quite as intensely
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on some of the political pieces as I usually do.
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And part of that is I don't wanna take the sermon time
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to do that, but I do, I feel like my role
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as an educator, a teacher, a pastor,
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is that I still have a responsibility to teach our people
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and a responsibility to bring things to the table
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and to keep people thinking, keep people prompted.
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And so on Sunday, I did this,
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I just called it a cultural historical briefing.
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And I read a little bit of the charter of Jamestown.
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It's from 1606.
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What people do not understand and a lot of, you know,
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this generation that's here in the last two,
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three generations don't understand
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because we don't do a good job of teaching history.
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We don't do a good job of going back
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to our foundational documents.
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You know, we live in a time where, you know,
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your iPhone is basically out of date
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by the time it arrives at your house, right?
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You order it, it's three weeks getting there or two weeks.
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And by the time it gets there,
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they're already talking about the next version, right?
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Music's that way.
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Music is so digitally oriented now
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with downloading capabilities.
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You don't go to Billy's Band Aid and buy records anymore.
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I mean, you literally have to,
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you just download them in a nanosecond.
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You think about a song and in 30 seconds,
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you can be listening to it.
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I miss physical music so much.
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I do too.
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I miss that.
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I missed my Bible.
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It's why I got my Bibles back out.
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All of them.
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This is one of my favorites.
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This is the one I've had a long time.
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It's got a lot of notes in it.
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I always use a physical Bible.
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I love it.
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There's something different about it.
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There's something about tactile, tangible feeling
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that puts me more in the moment.
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Whereas from the digital world,
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and I'm even starting to step out.
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Last night I caught myself laying in bed doom scrolling.
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Just habit.
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What's the news?
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I hadn't looked at the news all day
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and we went to bed and I was scrolling
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and I just caught myself and I stopped myself.
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And I clicked over
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because I didn't have my Bible sitting on my nightstand.
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So I clicked over to scripture
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and just spent time reading scripture.
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And I was like, what are you doing?
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It's so simple to fall into that.
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So think about it.
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Our generation's been trained in 144 characters, right?
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Because our 140 characters,
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that's what Twitter X was if you don't have the blue,
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the premium version of it, which I'm not gonna pay for.
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So I get 140 characters.
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That's not very much.
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So you learn to be brief.
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You learn to be quick.
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And then what we've done,
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we've trained our brains to do life in 140 characters.
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We don't say how we're feeling.
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We just send an emoji.
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Yeah, I'm happy.
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I don't wanna say I'm happy.
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I just gonna send an emoji.
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Well, and it's gone beyond that even to,
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everything's about clickbait now, right?
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It's about the, what is the little thumbnail on the video
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that sucks you in with a deceptive tagline of some kind
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just to get you to click.
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It's gone even worse.
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It's brutal.
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And it's brutal on the heart.
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I love what John Eldridge talks about
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how it's an assault on your heart.
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He says the human heart, and I totally agree.
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He has some great sources for this and great resources,
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but the human heart was never designed to take in
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the amount of content and information
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that we're driving our hearts to take in.
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So our hearts can't handle it.
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It's an assault on the heart.
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And of course in marketing and media,
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it's actually, you could say it's an attack on the heart,
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but really it's them trying to get your heart's attention.
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If they can get your attention, they can get your money.
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And that's what it comes down to,
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clicks, likes, comments, and then monetizing, right?
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And so when I go back and read things
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like my physical Bible, or actually go back
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and read the charter of Jamestown,
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or I read the Mayflower Compact
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and Declaration of Independence,
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and I read those words slowly,
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I realized that when they wrote those words,
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there was intentionality behind every word.
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Yeah, focus.
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Focus, there's weight, there's gravity.
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Each word means something.
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Because they knew they were writing something
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that would become potentially the rule of law for them,
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which means they would need to write it well,
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because they're gonna be coming back to this.
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It's gonna be their driver,
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but it's also gonna create a lane or boundaries,
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you know, rails to keep these new colonies on track
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and to bring some level of order.
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And so let me read this,
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and then feel free to comment on this.
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We do hereby dedicate this land and ourselves
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to reach the people within these shores
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with the gospel of Jesus Christ,
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and to raise up godly generations after us.
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And with these generations,
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take the kingdom of God to all the earth.
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May this covenant of dedication remain to all generations,
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as long as this earth remains,
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and may this land, along with England,
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be evangelists to the world.
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You know, what stands out to me in hearing that
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is even just the terminology of like using the word covenant.
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You know, they didn't see this as just an idea
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that they wrote down,
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or just some, you know,
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thing that they thought would be good to do.
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They recognized they were doing something solemn,
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that they were making an agreement with God himself,
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you know, and that they were dedicating themselves
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to this purpose.
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And there's something powerful about understanding,
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like this is what everything we know as America today
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was established based on, was that idea.
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And we get caught up in all of the things
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that happened along the way,
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some good, some bad, some terrible.
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It's not about all of the things
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that happened after that individually.
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It's about what was the point?
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What were we trying to do?
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What were the founding fathers aiming at, you know,
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and constantly taking ourselves back to that?
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I mean, you see that all throughout scripture as well,
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with God's people.
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God's people made all kinds of mistakes.
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they sinned against God,
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they entered into judgment and captivity,
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but it always was God taking them back to,
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this is what I started you on.
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This was the covenant I made with you
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and bringing them back to that.
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And as long as they would return
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to the promises God made to them,
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return to the covenants that they made with God,
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they would prosper, they would succeed,
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they would find their way again,
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because God is faithful to bring people back
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when they've made right agreements with him.
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That's really good insight, PB,
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because if we have nothing to go back to
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that is a foundational thing for us.
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And in our discipleship series, we talk about foundations.
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We spend a whole block, four to five weeks on foundations,
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because if you don't have foundations,
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you have nothing to build on.
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And we've all seen houses that were not built properly,
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they were thrown up too quickly,
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or they were built on land
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that didn't have a good foundation,
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didn't have the right kind of bedrock or right kind of soil.
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And as the earth moves, the foundation shifts,
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and if it's not well built,
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everything shifts, the whole house.
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You know what it makes me think of is,
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those renovation shows we all used to binge watch on HGTV.
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A lot of times, you'd see a house that looked really bad
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or looked like it was falling apart,
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and they would tear it down to the studs,
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to the foundations, if you will,
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and they'd find out, actually, this is a well-built house.
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Everything that looks so bad about it
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was cosmetic and easily fixable.
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And I think that's where we are in America.
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As many bad things as there are,
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as many things as need to be corrected
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that are truly things we need to think about and address,
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we have good foundations.
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We have a good framework that we've built this nation on,
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and it's the same with our faith, with Christianity.
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And we can, the things that seem so insurmountable
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are actually fixable.
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We can address the problems when the foundation's right.
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And that's well said.
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We were in a church one time,
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and we planted a church in central Texas, in a small town,
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and there was a church building available,
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and it had an apartment inside of it.
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So if we could rent the church,
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we would have a place to live.
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So it was a two-for-one thing.
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I mean, it was crazy, looking back on it,
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like, what were we thinking?
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But you don't know anything in your 30s.
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So not to offend anyone who's 30 years listening to this,
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I'm just saying, we didn't.
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Maybe you do, but we didn't.
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so we were happy to actually secure a building
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that had an apartment in it.
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So it actually worked out great.
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The problem was, it was so,
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the foundation was terribly built,
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and it was built in a part of that town
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that was known to have bad soil and bad foundation.
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So all of the homes in that area had issues,
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had foundation issues.
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anything you build on that foundation
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is gonna have issues.
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And I remember it would change throughout the year,
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but the cracks in the walls,
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there were certain times of year,
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or if there was a drought season,
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depending on what the climate was like
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in that particular time of year,
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where there were times where there would be holes
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so big you could see through it outside the house.
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I mean, literally, any kind of critters,
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mice, squirrels could get in.
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like stuff, rags or towels in some of those cracks.
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That's how bad it was.
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And then we'd get rains and whatnot,
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and then we'd go pull the stuff out
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because the walls would go back together.
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It was the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
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I learned a lot about foundations having that building.
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We didn't own it, we just leased it.
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So we ended up, we were able to get out of that
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at some point, but the foundations are so critical.
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And that's what I love about this charter.
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They were saying that our intent and our purpose
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for coming here and our intent now that we're here
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is to literally gospelize the world.
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We're here to evangelize and share
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the gospel of Jesus Christ.
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I mean, literally they said to reach the people
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within these shores with the gospel of Jesus Christ
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and to raise up godly generations after us.
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Sounds like they knew the great commission.
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Tell me about it.
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And I get goosebumps literally when I read,
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I almost get emotional over it
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because that is what our nation is founded on.
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And when you talk about American exceptionalism,
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some people get upset about that and think,
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oh, you're just being arrogant.
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It's not about arrogance, it's all.
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It's just that this is the only nation
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that has in its original documents,
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the express purpose for its founding
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was to evangelize the world.
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And I believe that's why we've had chance after chance
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after almost like Israel just over and over.
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We don't replace Israel, not at all.
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I never, anyone tells you that they're way out of bounds
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and they're in dangerous territory theologically.
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Well, the scripture tells us that any nation
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is gonna be blessed who's God is the Lord,
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whether that's Israel, of course,
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but any other nation who gets in on that party
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will also be blessed and that's what America did.
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That's Psalms 3312 and I absolutely love that
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and appreciate that.
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I have sitting before me on the table before us
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a very miniature version of the national monument
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to the forefathers and it's in Plymouth, Massachusetts
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and it's literally hidden away.
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I remember when we drove, we were driving over to see it
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and we were with Adam and Tina Curry, it was me and Annette,
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we had gone up to Plymouth and to see this monument,
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I felt led to pray over this, pray over our nation
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by laying hands on the monument and we did that.
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It was amazing.
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What I didn't realize, I had looked it up,
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I'd read about it so I knew the history of it.
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You heard about it from Kurt Cameron, right?
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Yeah, Kurt Cameron in his movie Monumental
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and then also when we did biblical citizenship
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through the Patriot Academy with Rick Green,
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they have a whole first lesson is Kurt Cameron again,
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explaining and most people have never heard of this.
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Just, well, just, I had neither.
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Most recently, Adam Curry was on Joe Rogan
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and he gave him a Founder's Bible,
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which is a fantastic tool for learning your history
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and marrying it with the original intent
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of the nation and the Word of God.
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So if you want a good resource, all the content in that,
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you have the Bible, it's a New American Standard Bible,
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but with sections all through there
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about the founding of our country.
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And it helps you see the scriptures out of the word
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that the founders used to build the basis
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for the foundational documents of the country.
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So you understand this is where they took it from.
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Yeah, it's an amazing resource and tool for you learning.
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And all of the little vignettes in there are short
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and easily readable.
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You don't have to read like a full book.
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These are like a few pages and they have pictures
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and they're just a great way to get the highlight reel
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of history, so to speak, of our foundations.
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So I would encourage you to check it out again,
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called the Founder's Bible.
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You can get it at the Patriot Academy.
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Just Google Patriot Academy
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and they have a gift store online there.
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So Adam was telling Joe Rogan about the National Monument
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and about us going up to Plymouth to see it.
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He made a comment back when we went to see it,
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there's only one tiny sign in town
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that says the National Monument to the forefathers.
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They have these huge signs for seeing Plymouth Rock,
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which was a real dud.
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We saw it when we went.
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It's a rock, you know?
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And by the way, it's probably not the rock they landed on
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because it was even added later
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by a deacon or an elder,
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a deacon from one of the churches decided it was this one.
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So anyway, it's one of those kind of going to Israel
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is like, you know, all these different places
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you may have been the site of, you know,
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not necessarily was, so there's that.
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But this is different.
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This was built in 1889 or completed in 1889.
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It took them 100 years to build this
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because it was made out of granite, right?
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It's made out of solid granite.
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It's the largest solid granite monument in America.
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It's also the tallest at 81 feet.
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And-
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It's pretty big.
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It is big.
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And you don't know how big it is until you see it in person.
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You can go online, look at pictures of it.
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But the thing that Adam made a comment about,
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he is it's like it's been lost.
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And as soon as he said that, I said, no, it's been hidden.
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It's not hidden from us, it's hidden for us.
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There you go.
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I just really felt that and I said that when we were there
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as we rolled up, it's actually in a cul-de-sac.
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Of a neighborhood.
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So it's really almost bizarre.
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And then you roll up on this little park
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00:19:14,620 --> 00:19:17,060
and this thing is so massive in scale.
484
00:19:17,060 --> 00:19:18,380
I was blown away.
485
00:19:18,380 --> 00:19:20,560
I didn't realize how tall 81 feet was.
486
00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,800
And unfortunately this thing does not get visitors
487
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,020
like other monuments do.
488
00:19:24,020 --> 00:19:24,860
No, no.
489
00:19:24,860 --> 00:19:25,700
Because people don't know about it.
490
00:19:25,700 --> 00:19:28,060
A little over 200,000 a year might show up
491
00:19:28,060 --> 00:19:31,000
according to the thing I read about it,
492
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,900
which is nothing compared.
493
00:19:32,900 --> 00:19:36,540
And there's no other mention of it anywhere like downtown
494
00:19:36,540 --> 00:19:39,740
in the tourist district of Plymouth.
495
00:19:39,740 --> 00:19:41,540
And it's fun, it's a great trip.
496
00:19:41,540 --> 00:19:44,820
And it's a fun place to hang out for a whole day or two
497
00:19:44,820 --> 00:19:46,140
and enjoy.
498
00:19:46,140 --> 00:19:49,180
We enjoyed our time there, neat shops to walk around
499
00:19:49,180 --> 00:19:53,280
and it's on the bay, overlooks the bay and it's beautiful.
500
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,420
And yet there's no mention of the monument to the net.
501
00:19:57,420 --> 00:20:01,620
And it's massive and it completely towers
502
00:20:01,620 --> 00:20:05,640
over any other monuments that we have, but it's hidden away.
503
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,200
But I think it's hidden so that we'll find it
504
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,600
for those who want it.
505
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,980
So what it is, I like the way Rick Green
506
00:20:12,980 --> 00:20:14,680
and Kirk Cameron both use this language.
507
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:15,640
I've totally stole it.
508
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:16,940
It's mine now.
509
00:20:16,940 --> 00:20:19,220
I've said it enough, I shouldn't give them credit anymore.
510
00:20:19,220 --> 00:20:21,780
But it really is the secret sauce
511
00:20:21,780 --> 00:20:25,220
to how our nation was founded, what it's founded on.
512
00:20:25,220 --> 00:20:27,160
And I wanna read these to you.
513
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:32,000
And I'll put a picture of this on our newsletter as well,
514
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,020
but I would encourage you to go look at it.
515
00:20:34,020 --> 00:20:37,900
The top figure on it at 81 feet in the air
516
00:20:37,900 --> 00:20:40,900
is a woman with her hand pointed to heaven
517
00:20:40,900 --> 00:20:45,600
and her name is, and it's engraved on in solid granite faith.
518
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,280
And she's actually holding a Bible.
519
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,040
And this would have been the Geneva Bible.
520
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,780
This was the Bible that they brought over.
521
00:20:51,780 --> 00:20:54,640
I've actually read excerpts from the Geneva Bible.
522
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,180
You think King James Version is hard to read.
523
00:20:57,180 --> 00:20:59,380
This is another level of Elizabethan English
524
00:20:59,380 --> 00:21:00,520
I didn't know existed.
525
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,820
So all the alternate spellings,
526
00:21:02,820 --> 00:21:04,720
S's or F's and all that.
527
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,500
I mean, it's hard to read.
528
00:21:06,500 --> 00:21:08,160
I was like, cause you can order one.
529
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,860
I was like, no thanks.
530
00:21:09,860 --> 00:21:11,540
I don't think I would ever read it
531
00:21:11,540 --> 00:21:13,940
other than just be kind of nice to have a piece of history.
532
00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:16,940
But she's holding a Bible, a copy of the scriptures.
533
00:21:16,940 --> 00:21:21,080
She's pointing to heaven and directly below her.
534
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,120
It starts off with four other figures
535
00:21:24,120 --> 00:21:28,320
that circle the base or the foundation of the monument.
536
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,280
And the first one is called morality.
537
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,460
Morality is actually a woman sitting on a,
538
00:21:35,460 --> 00:21:38,820
just like a throne or a chair kind of thing.
539
00:21:38,820 --> 00:21:40,860
And she's holding, what do you think that is?
540
00:21:40,860 --> 00:21:41,700
What does that look like?
541
00:21:41,700 --> 00:21:42,540
The 10 commandments.
542
00:21:42,540 --> 00:21:43,660
That's the 10 commandments.
543
00:21:43,660 --> 00:21:46,300
So she's holding the 10 commandments in her hand.
544
00:21:46,300 --> 00:21:49,680
And she's holding the scroll of the scriptures
545
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:50,880
in her other hand.
546
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,680
And her name is morality.
547
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,340
And on each side of morality,
548
00:21:55,340 --> 00:21:57,180
there are other names ingrained
549
00:21:57,180 --> 00:21:58,880
in that same foundation piece.
550
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,280
One of them is evangelist.
551
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,520
Again, alluding to this charter that said,
552
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,360
we're gonna be evangelists to the world.
553
00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:10,460
On the other side, interesting enough, is prophet.
554
00:22:10,460 --> 00:22:11,760
And what do prophets do?
555
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,500
They foretell and they forth tell.
556
00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:15,600
They declare.
557
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:16,760
They declare the word of the Lord.
558
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,000
The word of the Lord.
559
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,460
And so that's all on there.
560
00:22:19,460 --> 00:22:21,200
Now you go on around the monument.
561
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,400
The next one, the next figure is Law.
562
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,040
Law's very imposing looking.
563
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,140
He's a very stately gentleman.
564
00:22:29,140 --> 00:22:32,880
And he has in his hands the books of the Law.
565
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,560
And I don't know, there is an explanation for that,
566
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:36,720
but I'm not sure what it is.
567
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,420
And on each side of Law, you've got mercy.
568
00:22:40,420 --> 00:22:41,520
Isn't that interesting?
569
00:22:42,460 --> 00:22:44,260
And you've got justice.
570
00:22:44,260 --> 00:22:46,900
So you've got justice, the sword of the Lord,
571
00:22:46,900 --> 00:22:49,200
and you've got mercy, the grace of God,
572
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,140
on each side of the Law.
573
00:22:51,140 --> 00:22:53,200
So the Law sits between these,
574
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,400
which is really interesting.
575
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:59,240
Going on around, the next one, that leads to education.
576
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,380
And so education is a mom.
577
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,480
It's a mother.
578
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,220
And she's sitting and guess what she's got in her hand?
579
00:23:06,220 --> 00:23:07,060
The Bible.
580
00:23:07,060 --> 00:23:08,380
The Bible.
581
00:23:08,380 --> 00:23:10,480
She's pointing to an open Bible
582
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,120
as though she's giving instruction and direction.
583
00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:14,660
And under here, you can't see it,
584
00:23:14,660 --> 00:23:16,120
but it's a mother and a child
585
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:17,720
where the mother is the teacher
586
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,600
and she's the leader of the home in terms of education.
587
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:21,760
Sounds like there's a message here
588
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,800
about what leads to good education.
589
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,600
Faith leading to morality,
590
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,000
leading to justice and mercy and Law,
591
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,140
creating a basis for how we teach and train our young people.
592
00:23:33,140 --> 00:23:34,380
This is the secret sauce.
593
00:23:34,380 --> 00:23:36,840
This is the recipe for how they did it
594
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,740
and how we need to return to doing it,
595
00:23:38,740 --> 00:23:41,020
which we're beginning to see some things
596
00:23:41,020 --> 00:23:43,060
come up on the scene that are like that.
597
00:23:43,060 --> 00:23:44,620
On either side of education,
598
00:23:44,620 --> 00:23:47,320
on that you have wisdom on one side,
599
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,300
and on the other you have youth.
600
00:23:49,300 --> 00:23:53,600
So we're trying to impart wisdom to youth through education.
601
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,060
And then the final figure,
602
00:23:55,060 --> 00:23:57,940
which is like stinking Arnold Schwarzenegger
603
00:23:57,940 --> 00:23:59,300
back in his prime.
604
00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:00,340
This dude is a beast.
605
00:24:00,340 --> 00:24:01,280
He is a warrior.
606
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,700
He's a soldier.
607
00:24:02,700 --> 00:24:04,380
And he's actually got his,
608
00:24:04,380 --> 00:24:06,980
he's got a broken chain in one hand,
609
00:24:06,980 --> 00:24:10,480
which is broken under his foot in his hand.
610
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,480
He's got a sword in another hand and he's looking out.
611
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,080
And on either side of this, you've got tyranny.
612
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,020
And on the other side, you have peace.
613
00:24:20,020 --> 00:24:21,120
What's the name of this one?
614
00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:22,320
This one is Liberty.
615
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,160
Liberty.
616
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,000
Yeah, sorry.
617
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:24,960
Thanks for bringing that up.
618
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,700
So that's Liberty.
619
00:24:26,700 --> 00:24:29,160
So this dude is like, I mean,
620
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,500
what's amazing is the anatomical correctness.
621
00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:35,340
I mean, I doubt there were many people
622
00:24:35,340 --> 00:24:36,700
that looked like that in their day,
623
00:24:36,700 --> 00:24:38,280
but these looked like the Greek gods
624
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,100
that were carved.
625
00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:40,540
The Adonis, right?
626
00:24:40,540 --> 00:24:43,180
And I mean, this dude looks like he could throw down
627
00:24:43,180 --> 00:24:44,440
and handle something.
628
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,820
Underneath, he's got a lion over here on this side,
629
00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:53,820
but under here, he's got his foot on the head of a crown.
630
00:24:54,860 --> 00:24:56,420
And it's the king being defeated.
631
00:24:56,420 --> 00:24:57,260
Wow.
632
00:24:57,260 --> 00:24:58,400
Yeah, through Liberty.
633
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,460
And so those are the four figures,
634
00:25:00,460 --> 00:25:05,460
morality, law, education, and liberty.
635
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,680
And on top, you have faith with her pointing to the sky.
636
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,280
So that was such an amazing trip to go see that
637
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,840
and see what this country is built on.
638
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,180
Adam and I have been having a lot of conversations
639
00:25:18,180 --> 00:25:19,240
about this.
640
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,980
We believe that the Lord has,
641
00:25:20,980 --> 00:25:23,680
it's been hidden not from us, but for us,
642
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,020
and people are finding it and beginning to realize
643
00:25:26,020 --> 00:25:27,220
this is it.
644
00:25:27,220 --> 00:25:29,120
This is what we need to return to.
645
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:30,720
And so that's something that's on our heart.
646
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,300
We're praying about what to do about it.
647
00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:36,500
You know what I love is,
648
00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:39,400
this wasn't, again, this wasn't just a cool sounding recipe.
649
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:44,400
This produced so much fruit that was unheard of
650
00:25:45,140 --> 00:25:47,300
in the world before or since.
651
00:25:47,300 --> 00:25:49,540
I mean, if you take a look,
652
00:25:49,540 --> 00:25:53,740
America's effect on evangelism worldwide,
653
00:25:53,740 --> 00:25:57,320
the number of places the gospel found its way to
654
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,220
because of missionaries, prophets, and evangelists
655
00:26:01,220 --> 00:26:03,620
that were birthed out of this type of thinking,
656
00:26:03,620 --> 00:26:05,220
out of this foundation,
657
00:26:05,220 --> 00:26:07,200
is unlike anything the world's ever seen.
658
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,100
There was an explosion of the gospel,
659
00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:11,160
not just in the nation, but everywhere,
660
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,800
as a result of what these guys built
661
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,940
as the foundation for the nation.
662
00:26:15,940 --> 00:26:17,180
Same with charity.
663
00:26:17,180 --> 00:26:19,200
So you are so spot on.
664
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,500
So think about what you just said.
665
00:26:20,500 --> 00:26:23,740
I mean, you really just sparked something in me.
666
00:26:23,740 --> 00:26:25,420
The very first thing that happens
667
00:26:25,420 --> 00:26:28,580
when faith is introduced as the primer,
668
00:26:28,580 --> 00:26:29,980
I mean, it's on top of everything.
669
00:26:29,980 --> 00:26:31,780
It's over everything,
670
00:26:31,780 --> 00:26:34,280
but morality is the first thing that's produced.
671
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,360
Morality with evangelists and prophets,
672
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:39,120
I mean, and the word of God.
673
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:42,360
And that is how you found a work.
674
00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:44,960
So you gave a sermon a while back, it was so good.
675
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,800
And you're talking about inputs, inputs and outcomes.
676
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,840
And the thing about a recipe
677
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,300
that I learned the hard way as a young person was
678
00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:58,040
if I followed the recipe like it was written
679
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,320
and how it was directed and the exact measurements,
680
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,920
the outcome was always good and it was always the same.
681
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,580
But if I got creative or lazy or short what a shortcut.
682
00:27:09,580 --> 00:27:10,760
So we don't need this ingredient.
683
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,460
Yeah, we don't need to melt the butter.
684
00:27:12,460 --> 00:27:13,720
Why would you need to melt it?
685
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,000
I mean, there's silly little things
686
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,300
that seems so nuanced,
687
00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:21,160
but they actually impacted the outcome.
688
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,740
What's happening right now, and I wanna just share this.
689
00:27:24,740 --> 00:27:28,880
I got a slide here that I'll put on the newsletter,
690
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,340
but it's from CBN News.
691
00:27:31,340 --> 00:27:33,720
And it says this, it's a headline that says
692
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,780
they want God in quotes.
693
00:27:35,780 --> 00:27:40,020
8,000 students seek Jesus and huge Kentucky revival.
694
00:27:40,020 --> 00:27:42,480
2,000 give their lives to Christ.
695
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,320
Amazing.
696
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,420
And it was 30 degrees out there.
697
00:27:45,420 --> 00:27:46,660
And when they baptized them,
698
00:27:46,660 --> 00:27:49,620
baptized them in the back of U-Haul trucks.
699
00:27:49,620 --> 00:27:51,460
Now I don't know, I don't have a picture of that.
700
00:27:51,460 --> 00:27:53,400
So I'm not sure if they had tubs they put in there
701
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,540
or like maybe they put those water troughs probably
702
00:27:56,540 --> 00:27:57,840
in there, but I don't care.
703
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,240
30 degrees is 30 degrees.
704
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,540
That's how you know it was for real.
705
00:28:00,540 --> 00:28:02,080
And there's no heaters in the back of those trucks.
706
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,640
So these kids, hundreds of them got baptized,
707
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,240
not 2,000, 2,000 gave their lives to Christ.
708
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,540
Many of those were baptized that night.
709
00:28:10,540 --> 00:28:13,920
This tells me that faith is happening again.
710
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,720
We have a window right now where faith is being expressed.
711
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,160
People are hungry.
712
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,560
We talked about the Wall Street Journal
713
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:22,800
last time we were together,
714
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,360
up 22% in Bible sales from young men.
715
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:27,760
I was gonna say, it's not just that that's happening,
716
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,200
but who it's happening with.
717
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,740
I mean, we're seeing young men wake up.
718
00:28:30,740 --> 00:28:34,500
I mean, it's right there on the recipe, right?
719
00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:36,200
It's right there on the monument.
720
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,240
I'm seeing all this begin to happen.
721
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,680
And if we will follow the recipe
722
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,180
and begin to get back to these things,
723
00:28:43,180 --> 00:28:45,120
these foundational principles,
724
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,720
I'm telling you the outcome will be our glorious days,
725
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,160
the most glorious days America's ever seen.
726
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,920
And we will become a force for the gospel
727
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,120
again on this planet.
728
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,460
I mean, I'm thankful what's going on in Iraq
729
00:28:58,460 --> 00:29:01,460
as it's growing, man, Christianity is exploding there.
730
00:29:01,460 --> 00:29:04,200
We've seen it happen in the underground church in China,
731
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,540
but America is poised to become
732
00:29:07,540 --> 00:29:12,540
that missionary-sending nation again.
733
00:29:13,580 --> 00:29:16,180
It's almost like the heart of the nation is being softened
734
00:29:16,180 --> 00:29:19,480
and people are opening up to truth again
735
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,280
in ways that they haven't in a long time.
736
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,160
And it's the moment that the church has been waiting for
737
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,060
and we better step up and be bold
738
00:29:26,060 --> 00:29:28,620
and speak truth because of love
739
00:29:28,620 --> 00:29:31,900
and not be afraid because people are ready for it.
740
00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:33,760
And we gotta deliver.
741
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,960
So how do we, Pastor Brian, Pastor Brian,
742
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,940
how do we bring this down to where people live?
743
00:29:39,940 --> 00:29:42,380
Because you and I, we're talking at 30,000 feet here, right?
744
00:29:42,380 --> 00:29:44,840
I mean, we're fired up about it because we see it
745
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,800
and it's exciting for us.
746
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,580
These are the things that are happening right now
747
00:29:48,580 --> 00:29:51,080
in our nation and things being discovered,
748
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,840
rediscovered like this,
749
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,060
are things we've prayed about for decades.
750
00:29:55,060 --> 00:29:57,320
And here we are on the precipice
751
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,720
of maybe one of the greatest revivals in history
752
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,520
already beginning to happen.
753
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,660
Now, that's great.
754
00:30:03,660 --> 00:30:05,700
And we can talk about that in big glowing terms
755
00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:07,600
and people get excited and they cheer,
756
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,860
but how does that translate down to a mom?
757
00:30:09,860 --> 00:30:12,340
How does that translate down to a student?
758
00:30:12,340 --> 00:30:15,100
How does it translate down to a dad,
759
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:17,480
or a boss or supervisor,
760
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,880
or a worker being a massive corporation?
761
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,720
How does this translate down to where we live?
762
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,920
Well, one of our recent discipleship classes that you taught
763
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,920
really drilled down to how a nation has changed
764
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,880
and it all starts in the hearts of the people.
765
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,000
If on an individual level and on a family level,
766
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:42,000
we don't prioritize allowing God to have his way
767
00:30:43,140 --> 00:30:45,500
in our own personal hearts and lives,
768
00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:49,280
there's no way to see societal change.
769
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,900
So it really, it's the old phrase,
770
00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:54,580
if it is to be, it starts with me.
771
00:30:54,580 --> 00:30:58,380
The more I submit my heart to the Lord,
772
00:30:58,380 --> 00:31:03,120
get in his word, let myself be transformed
773
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,220
by being with him and being washed in truth
774
00:31:07,220 --> 00:31:09,260
over and over and over again,
775
00:31:09,260 --> 00:31:12,100
the more I'm gonna leak out what I'm full of.
776
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:17,100
And the good news is, is God has opened a window in time
777
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,700
where as we leak out truth,
778
00:31:20,700 --> 00:31:25,280
people are gonna receive it and it's gonna bear fruit,
779
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,340
starting at home around the dinner table.
780
00:31:28,340 --> 00:31:30,620
You thought maybe your kids weren't listening before,
781
00:31:30,620 --> 00:31:33,180
or maybe your parents were too far gone
782
00:31:33,180 --> 00:31:35,220
and they didn't wanna hear any of this stuff.
783
00:31:35,220 --> 00:31:36,720
It's time to try again.
784
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,460
It's time to speak up again.
785
00:31:38,460 --> 00:31:40,560
Maybe you've gone quiet for a while
786
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,860
and you stopped sharing what you believed in
787
00:31:42,860 --> 00:31:45,200
because you thought it was falling on deaf ears.
788
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,800
Then the Lord can open a person's ears
789
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,740
and a nation's ears in a moment by his grace
790
00:31:51,740 --> 00:31:54,000
and by his power and we're seeing that happen.
791
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,740
And so, I think it's time for faith to rise again
792
00:31:57,740 --> 00:32:01,940
in our hearts to believe that man, God wants to move
793
00:32:01,940 --> 00:32:05,140
and he's just waiting for somebody who he can partner with.
794
00:32:05,140 --> 00:32:07,480
Wow, well said brother.
795
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,420
Round the kitchen table, I love that.
796
00:32:09,420 --> 00:32:11,520
Right where we live, right where we work,
797
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:12,920
right where we play,
798
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,660
that's the traffic pattern of our lives.
799
00:32:15,660 --> 00:32:17,960
And so in the dailies, the daily traffic pattern,
800
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,000
what do you do on a normal day?
801
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,660
Well, how would you do it different
802
00:32:22,660 --> 00:32:24,400
if you knew the secret recipe,
803
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,540
if you knew the secret sauce,
804
00:32:25,540 --> 00:32:28,000
you knew you had the recipe in front of you.
805
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,600
You had the idea that starts with faith,
806
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,840
but then it also has got to impact morality.
807
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,480
It's got the way we live.
808
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,180
Then that's gonna lead to law that becomes guide rails
809
00:32:40,180 --> 00:32:42,760
for instead of having anarchy and chaos,
810
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,280
there's now guide rails,
811
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,920
which leads obviously to education.
812
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,860
Which should inform how we interpret the events
813
00:32:50,860 --> 00:32:53,660
that are happening even politically in our nation.
814
00:32:53,660 --> 00:32:57,760
Knowing how to vote and what to prioritize
815
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,640
and what to not get caught up in
816
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,280
and how to even understand things that are happening
817
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,080
with the kind of the revolution
818
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,900
of the federal government right now.
819
00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:09,580
Cause there's, you could get caught up in storylines
820
00:33:09,580 --> 00:33:12,240
with that, hearing personal stories of this person
821
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,760
and that person and maybe go,
822
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,280
maybe we shouldn't make all this change.
823
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,920
Maybe we shouldn't try to uproot things.
824
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,520
But if you understand the bigger picture,
825
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,820
then you understand like,
826
00:33:22,820 --> 00:33:27,660
it's gonna, there's gonna be a cost to writing a ship.
827
00:33:27,660 --> 00:33:28,860
You know? Absolutely.
828
00:33:28,860 --> 00:33:31,460
And you'll understand why that needs to happen.
829
00:33:31,460 --> 00:33:33,560
And it's worth even some of the pain
830
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,740
that we have to go through to make right things
831
00:33:36,740 --> 00:33:38,180
that have been wrong for a long time.
832
00:33:38,180 --> 00:33:40,400
Wow, so true.
833
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,540
Man, that's so well said.
834
00:33:42,540 --> 00:33:44,640
The pain of change has to outweigh
835
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,420
the pain of staying the same.
836
00:33:46,420 --> 00:33:49,380
That's what my boss, Dave Ramsey used to say.
837
00:33:49,380 --> 00:33:51,180
And in Jeremiah chapter one,
838
00:33:52,620 --> 00:33:55,960
we hear about the call of Jeremiah to the ministry.
839
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,360
And you know, we always think somebody gets called
840
00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,600
to ministry, everybody claps.
841
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:00,860
Oh, that's wonderful.
842
00:34:00,860 --> 00:34:02,100
Now you're gonna go to seminary
843
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:03,940
and get your ministry degree.
844
00:34:03,940 --> 00:34:08,200
And you know, we just have this soft idea about it.
845
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:13,200
But when God called Jeremiah to ministry, says this,
846
00:34:14,380 --> 00:34:15,780
then the Lord put out his hand and touched my mouth.
847
00:34:15,780 --> 00:34:17,940
This is Jeremiah saying, this is what he did.
848
00:34:17,940 --> 00:34:20,520
He literally touched my mouth and said to me,
849
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,980
behold, I put my words in your mouth.
850
00:34:22,980 --> 00:34:26,760
See, I have set you this day over nations and over kingdoms.
851
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,180
And then to do what?
852
00:34:28,180 --> 00:34:29,160
I said, what am I gonna do?
853
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,260
I'm gonna go minister people.
854
00:34:30,260 --> 00:34:33,260
He says, to pluck up and to tear down.
855
00:34:33,260 --> 00:34:36,100
To destroy and to overthrow.
856
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:39,960
And then it ends with to build and to plant.
857
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,540
So there has to be disruption.
858
00:34:43,540 --> 00:34:44,700
You said revolution.
859
00:34:44,700 --> 00:34:47,500
I think I would say reformation.
860
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:50,420
Our government's experiencing a reforming.
861
00:34:50,420 --> 00:34:54,180
They're reforming and going back to foundational truths
862
00:34:54,180 --> 00:34:56,420
and basic granny's common sense.
863
00:34:56,420 --> 00:34:57,860
Right?
864
00:34:57,860 --> 00:35:01,060
I mean, people are losing their mind over the DOGE
865
00:35:01,060 --> 00:35:03,420
because there are people who are losing their jobs.
866
00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:06,820
People we know and love, friends of mine here in church,
867
00:35:06,820 --> 00:35:08,800
got their note.
868
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,360
And so we know that that's gonna impact good people,
869
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,300
but reformation is hard.
870
00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:18,040
If we think that revival and reformation
871
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,240
comes without a cost, then we're naive.
872
00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:23,320
I mean, we're talking about a reformation
873
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,180
of how we have been operating for decades,
874
00:35:26,180 --> 00:35:28,520
being flipped up on its ear in a month.
875
00:35:29,620 --> 00:35:30,860
It's a lot of change.
876
00:35:30,860 --> 00:35:34,420
Whether our comfort is more important or our future.
877
00:35:34,420 --> 00:35:36,060
Exactly.
878
00:35:36,060 --> 00:35:37,220
If you think about it, I mean,
879
00:35:37,220 --> 00:35:38,600
everything we see in scripture
880
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,460
and everything we see in the founding fathers,
881
00:35:40,460 --> 00:35:42,100
they kept talking about their posterity.
882
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:43,000
Their posterity.
883
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,060
That's their kids, their grandkids.
884
00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:47,000
It's their family tree.
885
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,840
They cared more.
886
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,280
And you hear these amazing stories
887
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,380
where they were literally willing to die
888
00:35:53,380 --> 00:35:55,300
and be cast down in the mud
889
00:35:55,300 --> 00:35:57,220
so the next generation could walk over them
890
00:35:57,220 --> 00:35:58,820
and get to the next place.
891
00:35:58,820 --> 00:36:02,080
I mean, these very vivid descriptions
892
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,660
of what it meant to lay your life down.
893
00:36:04,660 --> 00:36:06,460
And that's what they laid down in the mud
894
00:36:06,460 --> 00:36:08,360
so the next generation could walk over them
895
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,660
to get to the next place.
896
00:36:09,660 --> 00:36:12,060
And that's gotta be a part of,
897
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,900
we gotta get over our comfort
898
00:36:14,900 --> 00:36:17,260
and all of our convenience things and say,
899
00:36:17,260 --> 00:36:19,840
wait, there may be a price to be paid
900
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,200
to be truly free people, a free and just society.
901
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,280
And if our forefathers were willing to pay that price,
902
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,440
somewhere along the way we got comfortable,
903
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,720
we let go of the reins,
904
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:33,780
we stepped out of the public square.
905
00:36:33,780 --> 00:36:36,960
Now it's time to get uncomfortable for a while.
906
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,160
And being comfortable is highly overrated.
907
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,400
Feels good in the moment, but you don't get anything done.
908
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,220
You don't get anywhere.
909
00:36:43,220 --> 00:36:46,320
And we need to be okay with being challenged
910
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,400
to be uncomfortable, to be inconvenienced
911
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,400
and to even have our lifestyle upended
912
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,240
if it's for the greater good of reforming this nation
913
00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:58,980
back to faith, morality, liberty, law, education.
914
00:36:58,980 --> 00:37:01,480
And it'll only work if we become a people
915
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,040
who is thinking about future generations.
916
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,480
If we're only thinking about right now, we won't do it.
917
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,320
That's it.
918
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,160
That's exactly right.
919
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,220
If it's all about me, if it begins with me,
920
00:37:11,220 --> 00:37:12,860
but it doesn't end with me.
921
00:37:12,860 --> 00:37:15,920
I'm only the catalyst for the next generation.
922
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,700
It's really generational transfer.
923
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:21,840
It's a thinking of, I'm gonna think more about my kids.
924
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,160
And I'm not talking about just leaving them
925
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,640
physical inheritance, though that's a great thing.
926
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,300
I'm talking about leaving them a heritage
927
00:37:28,300 --> 00:37:32,080
that's bigger than just some money at the end of this thing.
928
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,980
Well, I think legacy and heritage thinking
929
00:37:33,980 --> 00:37:35,440
is really the type of thinking
930
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,020
that actually flows from the heart of God.
931
00:37:38,020 --> 00:37:41,080
That doesn't come from anywhere else other than him.
932
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,560
He's the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
933
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:44,380
That's right.
934
00:37:44,380 --> 00:37:46,760
I mean, he's even described transgenerationally.
935
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,420
If you leave God out of the equation,
936
00:37:48,420 --> 00:37:52,320
there's no real basis for generational thinking.
937
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:57,340
The eternal mindset comes from knowing God.
938
00:37:58,500 --> 00:37:59,800
And that's why that's gotta come from the church.
939
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,280
It's gotta be driven by a nation who's got as the Lord,
940
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,400
who understands right foundations and morality and faith
941
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,540
and all these principles that you talked about.
942
00:38:07,540 --> 00:38:10,680
If we leave that out, we will never come to the conclusion
943
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,440
that it's about future generations.
944
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,820
Therefore, I'm gonna segue here.
945
00:38:15,820 --> 00:38:17,760
Therefore it comes down to the family.
946
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,760
Re-evaluating and revaluing our families.
947
00:38:23,620 --> 00:38:26,500
My goodness, it's so easy during those years
948
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:28,600
when you get caught up in soccer
949
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,100
and school functions and sports
950
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:34,300
and you're doing it for them,
951
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:37,240
but you catch yourself going through the motions
952
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:39,480
and driving to the different events and doing it
953
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,180
and then looking for your space in the middle of it
954
00:38:42,180 --> 00:38:45,680
and handing them a screen just to get a little peace.
955
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,360
And we do that forgetting that, wait a minute,
956
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,020
we're raising up the next generation of presidents,
957
00:38:51,020 --> 00:38:54,360
attorneys, attorney generals, lieutenant governors,
958
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,660
wait, we're raising up the next generation of leaders
959
00:38:57,660 --> 00:39:01,740
or not and pastors or not.
960
00:39:01,740 --> 00:39:04,000
The next generation of educators.
961
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,000
So when we lose sight of that
962
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,000
because we get caught up in the now,
963
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,740
so much that it's all about, oh gosh, I just need a nap.
964
00:39:11,740 --> 00:39:13,340
So I'm gonna go put my kid to sleep
965
00:39:13,340 --> 00:39:15,040
or I'm gonna go give him some,
966
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,660
yeah, man, we're constantly trying to push back
967
00:39:19,660 --> 00:39:21,980
from the very thing we need to be engaging in
968
00:39:21,980 --> 00:39:24,220
and that's the hard work of raising kids.
969
00:39:24,220 --> 00:39:26,400
I look back over it and if I,
970
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,860
right now I wish I knew what I know now.
971
00:39:29,860 --> 00:39:31,860
I would have done things so different.
972
00:39:31,860 --> 00:39:34,040
I so, in a way I envy you
973
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,240
because you're at a place right now
974
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:40,540
where you've got those kids still in those formative years
975
00:39:40,540 --> 00:39:42,040
and you're able to form them.
976
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,180
I'm in the middle of it.
977
00:39:43,180 --> 00:39:45,340
Oh my gosh, you're so in the middle of it.
978
00:39:45,340 --> 00:39:47,180
And I mean, I've come face to face
979
00:39:47,180 --> 00:39:51,020
with my own selfishness so many times.
980
00:39:51,020 --> 00:39:52,520
Having kids will do that.
981
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,920
Yeah, and I'm watching them reflect me
982
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,660
in good ways and in bad ways
983
00:39:57,660 --> 00:40:00,160
and when it hits you like, oh my gosh,
984
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,700
I'm forming them.
985
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:06,760
They're becoming what I'm putting into them.
986
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,600
It's sobering, it's heavy and it's a responsibility
987
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,680
and I wanna do it well.
988
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,940
I want God to have his way in me so that they can become.
989
00:40:16,940 --> 00:40:19,680
So how do we help people pivot?
990
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,540
Okay, so they're getting this information.
991
00:40:21,540 --> 00:40:24,760
They're going, wow, you know, I have fallen prey to that
992
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,420
where I'm just kinda going through the motions with my kids
993
00:40:27,420 --> 00:40:29,160
and just looking forward to them graduating
994
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,720
and moving off and going to school or whatever,
995
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:32,820
getting out on their own.
996
00:40:32,820 --> 00:40:37,840
What can I do right now to begin to reform them?
997
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,500
We know they're being formed
998
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:43,400
and I might need to reform.
999
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,940
So how do we start?
1000
00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:46,940
I've got an idea, but I wanna hear what you got to say.
1001
00:40:46,940 --> 00:40:50,340
Well, you know, Jesus summed everything up
1002
00:40:50,340 --> 00:40:51,420
into two commandments, right?
1003
00:40:51,420 --> 00:40:52,620
He said, love the Lord your God
1004
00:40:52,620 --> 00:40:53,920
with all your heart, mind, soul and strength.
1005
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,360
And he said, the second commandment is like it.
1006
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,560
He said, love your neighbor as yourself.
1007
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,620
And the key in that commandment
1008
00:41:00,620 --> 00:41:03,820
is understanding what it means to love yourself.
1009
00:41:03,820 --> 00:41:08,660
And if you don't prioritize your relationship with God,
1010
00:41:08,660 --> 00:41:10,000
you don't love yourself.
1011
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,500
And I will not be able to love my neighbor
1012
00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:15,240
or my family or my kids any better
1013
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:17,640
than I'm first loving myself.
1014
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,840
Which means if I don't start with me,
1015
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,380
if I don't go deep with the Lord,
1016
00:41:22,380 --> 00:41:27,080
if I'm not a man who every day repents
1017
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,760
and realigns with truth and with God
1018
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,560
and let my kids see me do that,
1019
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,720
then it doesn't matter what I want for them.
1020
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:35,420
It doesn't matter what I try to pass on to them.
1021
00:41:35,420 --> 00:41:36,720
It matters who I am.
1022
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:39,760
Because they'll become who I am, not what I teach them.
1023
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,000
Man, you nailed that.
1024
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,060
I mean, you teed it up and crushed it
1025
00:41:43,060 --> 00:41:45,360
300 yards down the fairway.
1026
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,260
That is true.
1027
00:41:46,260 --> 00:41:47,940
It comes back to a heart.
1028
00:41:47,940 --> 00:41:50,700
It comes back to our own hearts.
1029
00:41:50,700 --> 00:41:55,380
Being completely realigned with God.
1030
00:41:56,540 --> 00:41:59,240
And that means realigning with his word
1031
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:01,280
and realigning in relationship with him.
1032
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,360
It's not just enough to know the Bible.
1033
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,860
Content's not gonna change anything.
1034
00:42:05,860 --> 00:42:07,180
It'll help.
1035
00:42:07,180 --> 00:42:10,160
It definitely sets up the potential for transformation
1036
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,520
and change and revelation, we say.
1037
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,560
But information is not revelation.
1038
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:15,860
There's a difference.
1039
00:42:15,860 --> 00:42:18,060
I know a lot of Christians or people who say they are
1040
00:42:18,060 --> 00:42:21,440
who can quote the Bible backwards and forwards,
1041
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,240
but they're mean-spirited.
1042
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:26,700
They treat waiters and waitresses with disrespect.
1043
00:42:26,700 --> 00:42:29,240
They're dishonorable to their spouses or whatever
1044
00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:30,140
and go down the list.
1045
00:42:30,140 --> 00:42:31,420
They cheat on their income taxes.
1046
00:42:31,420 --> 00:42:33,040
But when you let...
1047
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,420
That actually becomes more destructive.
1048
00:42:35,420 --> 00:42:36,880
That combination.
1049
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,380
It's like a vaccine.
1050
00:42:39,660 --> 00:42:41,220
Not like the ones we've been talking about lately.
1051
00:42:41,220 --> 00:42:42,520
I'm talking about a real vaccine
1052
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,720
that actually inoculates you.
1053
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:46,260
You get just enough of something
1054
00:42:46,260 --> 00:42:48,700
that you actually become dangerous.
1055
00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:50,100
You can repel it.
1056
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:52,600
You develop antibodies to it.
1057
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,240
So getting back and having our hearts transformed
1058
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:58,740
on an ongoing basis.
1059
00:42:58,740 --> 00:43:00,500
The greatest thing I could ever give my kids
1060
00:43:00,500 --> 00:43:02,000
is for them to see me praying.
1061
00:43:03,140 --> 00:43:05,480
To see me, to walk in the door
1062
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,940
and they see me bent over my Bible
1063
00:43:07,940 --> 00:43:12,220
and praying for them, for my family, for my wife,
1064
00:43:12,220 --> 00:43:13,660
or kneeling down at my bedside
1065
00:43:13,660 --> 00:43:14,480
or whatever.
1066
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,480
They walk into my office and I'm praying
1067
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,760
or I'm listening to something that's putting life into me.
1068
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,720
Those are the things that you want your kids
1069
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:24,560
to catch you doing.
1070
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:25,860
Yeah, I think that.
1071
00:43:25,860 --> 00:43:27,540
And the other thing I think is really powerful
1072
00:43:27,540 --> 00:43:30,000
is when your kids see you owning your mistakes
1073
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:30,840
and repenting.
1074
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,000
Absolutely.
1075
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,180
Absolutely.
1076
00:43:33,180 --> 00:43:34,500
You don't have to not make mistakes.
1077
00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:35,440
Show them how to handle it.
1078
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,400
That's it.
1079
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,940
You will make mistakes,
1080
00:43:37,940 --> 00:43:40,940
but when we hide them or gloss them over
1081
00:43:40,940 --> 00:43:43,140
because we don't wanna look bad in front of our kids,
1082
00:43:43,140 --> 00:43:44,980
our kids need to see us being human.
1083
00:43:44,980 --> 00:43:48,260
We're human beings, but they need to see us being human.
1084
00:43:48,260 --> 00:43:52,020
And that means repenting, saying you're sorry.
1085
00:43:52,020 --> 00:43:53,160
I made a mistake.
1086
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,000
Oh gosh.
1087
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,300
Even you bringing it up.
1088
00:43:55,300 --> 00:43:56,960
I remember times when I sat down with my kids
1089
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,960
and said, I messed up.
1090
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,540
I'm so sorry.
1091
00:44:00,540 --> 00:44:03,100
You know, I missed it.
1092
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:05,900
And that grew us closer together.
1093
00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:07,640
Instead of them disrespecting me,
1094
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,380
they actually respected me more.
1095
00:44:09,380 --> 00:44:11,180
Well, you're giving them the empowerment
1096
00:44:11,180 --> 00:44:14,220
to be able to do that themselves without shame.
1097
00:44:14,220 --> 00:44:15,920
So these are some practical things
1098
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,660
that we can do on an ongoing basis.
1099
00:44:18,660 --> 00:44:23,020
And I would say, start with you and your heart
1100
00:44:23,020 --> 00:44:25,060
being realigned to God.
1101
00:44:25,060 --> 00:44:27,760
So, you know, we can talk about reforming our children
1102
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,660
and reforming education law and all these different things.
1103
00:44:30,660 --> 00:44:32,260
Those are high level things,
1104
00:44:32,260 --> 00:44:33,940
but let's start at the kitchen table.
1105
00:44:33,940 --> 00:44:35,300
Maybe start in your bedroom.
1106
00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:36,400
Maybe when you wake up, you say,
1107
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,040
good morning, Holy Spirit.
1108
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,300
Good morning, Lord Jesus.
1109
00:44:39,300 --> 00:44:41,300
Good morning, Abba Father.
1110
00:44:41,300 --> 00:44:43,000
What do you want to do today?
1111
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,980
Maybe start with the Lord's prayer.
1112
00:44:44,980 --> 00:44:45,820
I do that.
1113
00:44:45,820 --> 00:44:46,640
I start with the Lord's model.
1114
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,480
I pray two versions.
1115
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,920
The original King James version.
1116
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,320
I always start with that.
1117
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,380
And then I do my own, in my words, version of it.
1118
00:44:55,380 --> 00:44:56,620
And I always do that.
1119
00:44:56,620 --> 00:44:57,860
And I'll do that several times throughout the day.
1120
00:44:57,860 --> 00:44:59,660
It just keeps me anchored.
1121
00:44:59,660 --> 00:45:02,160
It keeps me focused on your kingdom come,
1122
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,100
your will be done on earth as it is heaven.
1123
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:05,600
That prayer covers a lot of ground.
1124
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:06,440
Oh, it does.
1125
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:07,600
Jesus knew how to make it succinct.
1126
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,600
Huge for me.
1127
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,760
It's been a game changer for me.
1128
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,800
But that's just one, you know,
1129
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,900
just one thing that you can do that will help you out.
1130
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,820
And then learn some daily rhythms.
1131
00:45:20,940 --> 00:45:24,020
I kind of do a morning, noon and night thing.
1132
00:45:24,020 --> 00:45:25,420
It's become so natural.
1133
00:45:25,420 --> 00:45:27,060
I don't even think about it anymore.
1134
00:45:27,060 --> 00:45:29,660
I'll just catch myself in the afternoon going,
1135
00:45:29,660 --> 00:45:31,280
I need some, I need some word time.
1136
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,160
I'll just do it autopilot.
1137
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,120
I don't even like sit down and formally plan to do it.
1138
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,600
It may even be if all I have is my phone in my hand
1139
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,300
and I'm sitting waiting on my battery
1140
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:43,800
to get changed at Walmart, you know, or whatever.
1141
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,340
I've got a few minutes there.
1142
00:45:45,340 --> 00:45:46,940
I can either scroll Instagram
1143
00:45:46,940 --> 00:45:49,880
and read all the latest news junk,
1144
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,100
or I can open it and just look at a few scriptures
1145
00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:54,380
and let those seep down into my soul.
1146
00:45:54,380 --> 00:45:55,220
Yeah, it's funny.
1147
00:45:55,220 --> 00:45:56,940
The Bible is such an interesting book.
1148
00:45:56,940 --> 00:45:58,080
The more you read it,
1149
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,980
the more you hunger for it and want to read it.
1150
00:45:59,980 --> 00:46:02,080
The less you read it, the less you hunger for it.
1151
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,980
You know, you have to stir it up, you know.
1152
00:46:04,980 --> 00:46:06,420
So you get that ball rolling,
1153
00:46:06,420 --> 00:46:08,720
you'll find yourself morning, noon and night saying,
1154
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:09,660
man, I need something.
1155
00:46:09,660 --> 00:46:12,560
I need a shot of the word in my soul right now.
1156
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,900
So it's like gasoline in your car, you know.
1157
00:46:14,900 --> 00:46:17,000
I mean, you get on empty and you're running on fumes.
1158
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:17,840
You'll know it.
1159
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,160
Your car will tell you that.
1160
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,200
It has an indicator that says you're low.
1161
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,080
Mine has a light that comes on and it beeps.
1162
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,500
And then it comes up on the screen
1163
00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:27,700
and I have to manually get it off of there
1164
00:46:27,700 --> 00:46:29,040
to get rid of it.
1165
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,580
Because it's telling me, hey, you're about to stop.
1166
00:46:31,580 --> 00:46:33,020
Your engine's about to die.
1167
00:46:33,020 --> 00:46:35,280
You know, you've got to get to a gas station.
1168
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,120
And there's something built into us,
1169
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,260
not just something, but someone, the Holy Spirit,
1170
00:46:41,260 --> 00:46:43,500
who sort of tries to throw up flags and say,
1171
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:47,760
hey, man, you're running on fumes here.
1172
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,560
And if you don't get some fuel, you're going to crash.
1173
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,900
And I was watching or listening to John Eldridge
1174
00:46:55,900 --> 00:46:58,540
talk about how during the holidays,
1175
00:46:58,540 --> 00:47:00,080
he got a little off of his rhythm.
1176
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,980
He has a morning, noon, and night thing.
1177
00:47:01,980 --> 00:47:04,840
And he said, my sacred rhythm got messed up
1178
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,740
because of the holidays and travel and all that
1179
00:47:06,740 --> 00:47:07,920
and got out of my rhythm.
1180
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:12,920
He said, I really had to focus to get my rhythm back.
1181
00:47:14,260 --> 00:47:15,080
And he said, but it's a sacred rhythm.
1182
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,820
It's important to me.
1183
00:47:16,820 --> 00:47:18,960
And he was sharing that in a newsletter
1184
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,360
and that's what I've got laying over there,
1185
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,300
a newsletter with his followers or listeners.
1186
00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:27,140
He was saying, guys, if I did it, you did it too, probably.
1187
00:47:27,140 --> 00:47:28,660
You got caught up in travel
1188
00:47:28,660 --> 00:47:31,140
and going to see these grandparents and visit these people
1189
00:47:31,140 --> 00:47:33,040
and you're out of your work schedule,
1190
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,500
you're out of your normal flow
1191
00:47:34,500 --> 00:47:36,240
because you had some days off.
1192
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:37,480
It's easy.
1193
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,180
He said, I can function for a few days like that
1194
00:47:40,180 --> 00:47:43,980
and I'm fine, but then I find my tanks running low.
1195
00:47:43,980 --> 00:47:47,260
And he said, it's like warning, warning.
1196
00:47:47,260 --> 00:47:48,780
We need those right rhythms.
1197
00:47:48,780 --> 00:47:49,660
We're built for it.
1198
00:47:49,660 --> 00:47:50,960
We really are.
1199
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:51,960
And we want to help you with that.
1200
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:52,960
We want to encourage you in that.
1201
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,000
We gave you a couple of things to do.
1202
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,360
First of all, get back to the Bible.
1203
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,540
I would encourage you just as something that's easy
1204
00:48:00,540 --> 00:48:02,300
and in front of everybody
1205
00:48:02,300 --> 00:48:05,340
is get the YouVersion Bible app, download it.
1206
00:48:05,340 --> 00:48:06,680
It's free.
1207
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,280
It has unbelievable amount of translations
1208
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,480
of the Bible on it,
1209
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,720
but it also has many devotionals
1210
00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:15,380
that can help you on a daily basis.
1211
00:48:15,380 --> 00:48:19,380
It has Bible reading plans, many of them.
1212
00:48:19,380 --> 00:48:22,920
It's a good way, I would say a good start,
1213
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,620
but to me, it's not the finish.
1214
00:48:24,620 --> 00:48:27,260
I don't use it much anymore
1215
00:48:27,260 --> 00:48:29,600
because I've kind of got my own rhythms
1216
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,500
and my own things that I do,
1217
00:48:31,500 --> 00:48:33,740
but there are so many helps out there
1218
00:48:33,740 --> 00:48:36,340
and we want in that plethora of helps,
1219
00:48:36,340 --> 00:48:38,180
you can get lost because there can be so much
1220
00:48:38,180 --> 00:48:39,580
you don't know what to do.
1221
00:48:39,580 --> 00:48:41,380
It's like eating at Cheesecake Factory.
1222
00:48:41,380 --> 00:48:45,180
And one of the constant battles I face is distraction.
1223
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,780
And I find that the only way
1224
00:48:47,780 --> 00:48:50,880
I can successfully maintain those rhythms for me
1225
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,320
is I got to make sure that my computer and my phone
1226
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,120
and all those distractions are out of the way.
1227
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,200
Because if they're even sitting there,
1228
00:49:01,060 --> 00:49:04,300
something will buzz, something will ding,
1229
00:49:04,300 --> 00:49:05,860
something will catch my eye,
1230
00:49:05,860 --> 00:49:08,340
and I will quickly lose focus.
1231
00:49:08,340 --> 00:49:10,580
And we've been trained as a culture
1232
00:49:10,580 --> 00:49:13,640
to have loss of focus, short attention spans,
1233
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:14,740
want everything in soundbites.
1234
00:49:14,740 --> 00:49:17,540
So when you sit and you try to absorb something,
1235
00:49:17,540 --> 00:49:19,040
there's a lot competing against it
1236
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,980
unless you are intentional to remove those distractions.
1237
00:49:21,980 --> 00:49:24,780
And those distractions aren't necessarily bad things.
1238
00:49:24,780 --> 00:49:27,120
This morning at 5.50, I'm up,
1239
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,500
I get my first cup of coffee, first of several,
1240
00:49:29,500 --> 00:49:33,200
get my first cup of coffee, I sit down at my desk
1241
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,900
and immediately my phone goes off.
1242
00:49:35,900 --> 00:49:40,540
Two people at 6.05 are reaching out to me to talk.
1243
00:49:40,540 --> 00:49:45,540
And I'm like, this is when I write a day.
1244
00:49:46,580 --> 00:49:48,040
Instead of doing devotionals, I write one every day.
1245
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,440
That's just been a habit of mine for 20 something years now.
1246
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,020
That's how I do it.
1247
00:49:53,020 --> 00:49:56,280
I just learned to write and it's helped me so much,
1248
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,180
keeps me very focused.
1249
00:49:58,180 --> 00:50:03,160
And so at 6.05, I got two people live in real time,
1250
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,900
reaching out to me and I'm like, really?
1251
00:50:05,900 --> 00:50:08,800
6.05, now both of these were good people
1252
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,300
that are dear people to me.
1253
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,640
It was all I could do to not answer them back.
1254
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,640
It was all I could do to push that aside,
1255
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,600
push my phone away so I couldn't see it
1256
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,940
or hear it vibrate and get focused on what I was supposed
1257
00:50:21,940 --> 00:50:22,940
to do.
1258
00:50:22,940 --> 00:50:24,420
I don't always succeed at that.
1259
00:50:24,420 --> 00:50:25,240
I don't either.
1260
00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:26,420
It's so easy.
1261
00:50:27,580 --> 00:50:31,020
Man, while I appreciate it, sometimes I want to throw it
1262
00:50:31,020 --> 00:50:33,420
out the window at 75 miles an hour, you know,
1263
00:50:33,420 --> 00:50:34,760
and just go, really?
1264
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This has gotten crazy.
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Well, folks, we hope we're helping you.
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We could go on all the riff all day long on this
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because these are things that are so near and dear
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in our heart.
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And the reason they're near and dear to us is
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because we want to help you.
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We don't want this podcast to be just another podcast
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and a sea of podcasts.
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We want it to be something practical for you
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and something that will help you on your journey of faith,
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help you, maybe you're coming back to faith
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from being away, maybe there's been some time passed
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and you're trying to get back to the Lord.
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We want to be able to give you things
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that will help you with that.
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And then on the other hand, we want to give you
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the high level things that we talked about
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that are sort of the big, broad, encompassing principles
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that talk about life.
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I do want to say also thank you to our supporters.
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Those of you who send us Bitcoin,
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thank you so much for blessing us that way.
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Also for those who are signed up for our newsletter
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and who donate on a continual basis, thank you so much.
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It just, it means so much to Annette and I.
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And if you want to get our newsletter,
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we always put it out about the time
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that I publish one of our podcasts,
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which are typically on a weekly basis,
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but we've missed some because Annette's
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out of the picture for a moment.
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Our kitchen's almost done.
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Maybe next week we'll be back in the flow.
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Actually we'll be in Nashville next week, so maybe not.
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The week after that we'll be back in the flow
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and it'll be Jimmy and Annette again.
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But go to livingupandadownworld.com
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and you can subscribe to our newsletter
1303
00:52:02,740 --> 00:52:03,840
and that way you'll get a heads up
1304
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,580
whenever we're putting out a podcast
1305
00:52:05,580 --> 00:52:07,680
and try to put some personal things in there
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to just let you know a little bit more about us.
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And then the other thing I would encourage you to do
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is check out the Godcaster.
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00:52:13,220 --> 00:52:16,060
It's 24 seven live streaming worship
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and just little short daily grind,
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one minute encouragements for you during the day.
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We sprinkle those out through the whole thing.
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That's a thing that Adam Curry and I
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have worked on together and continuing to do.
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And so go to bridgefbg.com and click on Hello Fred.
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Well, what is Fred?
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Fred is Fredericksburg.
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So it's Hello Fredericksburg, Texas,
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but it's some local stuff,
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but it's broad enough that everybody can be encouraged.
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The music's always good.
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I keep it going 24 seven in my house.
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So check it out.
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Another way you can get to that
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is you can go to hellofred.fm.
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Then there's all kinds of resources,
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other podcasts that you can click on there as well.
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And so again, we just wanna be a blessing to you.
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Pastor Brian, thank you so much, man.
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You are so fun to do this with.
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This is always fun.
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I love it.
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Thanks for inviting me.
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It's about a 20 something year friendship.
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Well, age gap too, but friendship is what I was referring to,
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a relationship that we can sit down and riff on things
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because we've done life for a long time together.
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So thank you so much, brother.
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Good to be here.
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All right, our friends,
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you guys have an amazing week on purpose
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and we'll see you next time here
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on Living Up in a Down World.
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That is our heart for you,
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is to live up in this crazy world that we're in.
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Good times are ahead, my friends.
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Keep living up, keep leaking out.
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God bless you.
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We love you.
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inseparable.