May 29, 2025
"When Bad News Knocks on Your Door"

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Join Jimmy and Annette as they seek real world biblically based solutions when bad news knocks on your door.
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Don't get down when you're seeing the worst.
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Cause the last. This is Jimmy Nanette, and we
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are coming to you from our studio in the middle
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of Fredericksburg, Texas. Good morning to you.
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Good morning. It's been a minute. It has. It's
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been a hot minute since we've been on the air
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together and have done a podcast. Yes. I've missed
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this. Well, we've been kind of busy. We've been
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very busy. And traveling. We're going to have
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more. construction going on in the church so
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we may have to move it home you know what if
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there's if you hear something if you're listening
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today and you hear stuff banging and you won't
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today though they're not doing anything stuff
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out there yeah they are actually they're fixing
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that hole That's true. So, yeah, there's stuff
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going on here all the time. That's just the way
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it is. It's our life. We're always under construction.
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Well, luckily, our office is pretty, or our studio,
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I should say, looks more like a studio than an
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office at this point. Oh, definitely looks like
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a studio. Luckily, we have it pretty soundproofed.
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Yeah. No, it's fantastic. It's just when they're
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above us that that's where it sounds like. A
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freight train. Yeah, and we're doing audio only
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today. Yes. Yeah, I didn't want to have to make
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Faith do all the production side of it. Even
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though she's in here and would do it. She's with
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us, but I didn't want to have to do all that
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production side of it because... Most people,
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hey, somebody's at the door. See, this is our
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life. Yeah, you can answer the door. This is
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totally our life. Hey, it's okay. It is what
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it is. We want to welcome you to Living Up and
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Down World. I think we're on episode number 100.
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You think? I think it's 100. I thought it was
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like. It may be 99. But you don't know. I can
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tell you. I can look it up. So let me see where
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we're at on this. Do you know? No, I'm looking.
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Okay, look. Do you know what episode we're on?
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Do you think it is? I think it's 100. I was thinking
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it was 90. I thought it was 98. We have been
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running and gunning and blowing and going. So
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I'm looking it up right now, going to my dashboard
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here. We are on number 100. We are. Wow. There
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should be like bells going off or something.
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We should have like fireworks going off. 100
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in our busy life. Wow. 100 episodes. Well, we
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finally did it. That's a milestone for us. That
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is a milestone. You're looking particularly spiffy
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this morning. Absolutely gorgeous, as always.
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People are going to tell us to get a room if
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you keep doing that. Room with a view. Room with
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a view. We have a lot of travel. I don't want
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to go into all of our travels, but we did have
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a really big, wonderful, fun weekend. We just
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got back from the K -Love Fan Awards. Someone
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asked me, why would you want to go to that? Oh,
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my gosh. Because we get ministered to. This is
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where we can go. And it's not just... It's not
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just concerts. It's actual mostly worship where
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we can go and receive. Whereas when we're here
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at the church. We're thinking about everything
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we're about to do, going to have to do. If the
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music is off, if it's, I mean, there's so many
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things going through our mind when we're here
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that we don't really become fully abandoned to
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worship. But we go there and it's like refreshing
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time. But receive. Yeah. And we just need to,
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everybody needs a place where they can go and
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get their buckets filled. Yes. And if you're
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a worshiper, you'll understand it. If you're
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not, you would not understand. But we love music.
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You're a guitar player. Going to play on the
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worship team this Sunday for the first time.
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I just did a sound check a little bit ago. Has
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it been a year? It's probably been over a year.
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It's probably been about a year since I played
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on the worship team, so I've been missing it.
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But this K -Love Awards, which will be shown
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on TBN tomorrow night, we were part of the actual
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taping. But we were also, they do a full -on...
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worship, concerts, speaking, all kinds of stuff
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from Friday through Sunday night in Nashville.
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Basically three, two and a half days of music.
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And it's the highlight of our year. We go every
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year. This is our third year. Yeah, it's one
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of our favorite things we do. We already are
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signed up for next year. And CeCe Winans was
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probably my favorite. Wow. She is like the queen
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of gospel music. It was phenomenal. She's phenomenal.
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When she does That's My King. Oh. I just I just
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want to fall down. It is so good. And she led
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worship for the church. They actually have a
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church service on Sunday mornings for anyone
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who wants to come. And I mean, the whole place
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was packed out. We were almost on the back row
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and she led worship. So it was reminded me of
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when we were at our church at Bethel World Outreach
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Center. in Nashville and Debbie Winans, who was
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her sister, led worship. And they look just alike.
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They look alike. They sound alike. They both
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sing the same. And so it was like, it kind of
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took us back. It did for me in a good way. But
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she led worship. And then Jonathan, what Jonathan?
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Jonathan Pacluda. Pacluda. He. Did a phenomenal
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message, really spoke. He preached. He's one
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of the pastors. He's from Waco, Texas. He pastors
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a Baptist church in Waco. Of course, he's from
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Texas. All good pastors are from Texas. There
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we go. And so he spoke, and he's been part of
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a movement called the Unite Us Movement. And
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what it is, it's a group that goes to all these
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college campuses. They've been to 17 college
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campuses in about the last 18 months. Is it out
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of his church or is it just part of a movement?
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It's just part of it. They have several different
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people they bring in to speak and preach. And
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he's done 17 of these. I mean, on Auburn campus,
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all these college campuses. That you're hearing
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about. I got to sit down and visit with him for
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a little bit. And I just said, so tell me what's
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going on. I mean, what do you think's happening?
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He said, it's the gospel and it's Jesus. He said,
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God has stirred a hunger for Jesus. and the gospel
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of Jesus Christ in the next generation. Which
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is, they're our next leaders, which this is what
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we need. We don't need to regress. We need to
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progress. He said that he, in his meetings, the
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17 he's done, he has seen 20 ,000 students give
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their hearts to Christ, come to the altar and
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sign a card saying, I'm giving my life to Jesus
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Christ. They pray to receive Christ there. Then
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they get follow -up materials. Okay, I was going
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to say, I hope they're getting discipleship.
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They get materials and they plug, this is what's
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needed. about this movement. I read about it.
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One of their hearts is to make sure that students
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get plugged into local churches so they can be
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discipled, so they can grow. Because that was
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the one thing Billy Graham said he regretted.
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He said he did all of these revival meetings,
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but there was no follow -up. Remember him saying
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that before he passed? He said, that's my one
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regret that we didn't do. I would totally agree
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with that. So Jonathan, I was talking to him
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and I asked him about, so he said, yeah, definitely
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the gospel. There's a hunger for the gospel.
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It's new. The people that are leading this movement
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in all the meetings they've done. Boy, I said
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he's done 17. He hasn't done 17. There was. There's
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17 total so far. He's done some of those. He
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saw 20 ,000 people come to Christ. Gosh, just
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in the ones he saw. These are all college students.
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In all of the meetings combined, they had over
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80 ,000 young people give their hearts to Jesus.
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That's unbelievable. That is miraculous. It is.
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But yet you're not hearing that in the media.
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No, you won't see that in the media. CBN reports
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on it and several Christian outlets report on
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it. But really, it's almost an underground movement,
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even though it's happening on these campuses.
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Wow. I think it's just the beginning. I think
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we're seeing the beginning of an end time harvest
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that is going to be not just the great awakening,
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it's going to be the greatest awakening. Or the
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greater, I love that. Or the greater or greatest
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awakening where we're going to see hundreds of
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thousands of people come to Christ. We need to
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in this day and time. Which right now is happening
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all over the world, by the way. Yes, yes. So
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God is moving, as we say, Aslan is on the move.
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God is moving in major ways all over. And Jesus...
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He always used an interesting phrase when he
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was talking to not only his disciples, but when
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he was teaching to broader audiences, he would
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use this phrase for those who have ears to hear.
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And the reason that's so important is that. You
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can be sitting in a revival, and if you don't
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have ears to hear, you won't even see it. You
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won't even know that it's happening. And a lot
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of the historical revivals, a lot of people didn't
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even know they were in the middle of one. Right.
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And then they read about, oh, wait, we were in
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the middle of one? I didn't even know. History
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tells the story. Because when you're in it, you
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can't see the forest with the trees kind of thing.
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But right now, revival is happening across the
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world. And the bottom line is we have to ask
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ourselves, do I want to catch this wave? Yes.
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Do I want to be a part of it? And a lot of people
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don't. And that's part of my heart is to stir
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people's hearts to say, wherever it's happening,
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I want to be that revival looking for a place
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to happen. I want to be the awakening. Well,
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this reminds me, yesterday you posted a post
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about this revival happening, and you had great
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positive comments, and then you had that one.
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I actually shared that in my Bible study this
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morning, what that person said. Said that they're
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serving a fake Jesus. I'm like, what? So he's
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judging what this conversion that's happening
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with these young people. Who are giving their
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hearts to God. I'll read it to you. I think this
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is worthy of talking about. I was in shock. So
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I posted, I said, God is on the move like a wave.
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We don't generate the waves. We simply catch
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the waves that God brings our way. And I said,
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I don't want to miss his waves. Revival isn't
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coming. It's already here. I stole that line.
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It's already here from Twister. It's a great
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line. Because you watch that every time we get
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on a plane. And I was waiting for that line,
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just like you were watching. He's hilarious.
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And you were waiting for that line. So anyway,
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here's what this guy said. I'm not going to use
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his name. And I didn't respond to it because
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I don't respond to people who. who have a negative
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critical. There's no point. I don't have the
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energy for that. Here's what he said. So I shared
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the link from CBN .com. The return to religion
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is a turn to Jesus, even among its skeptics.
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And then it says most of us can't remember a
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time when belief in God was growing, but now
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it is. I got a report yesterday. Pastor Brian
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brought me that report from Barna Research Group
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saying that we're seeing a sharp rise in interest
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in the Bible, in the gospel, in Christianity.
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Christianity itself, not other occult stuff,
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but I mean, literally Christianity is rising
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in America as fast as it's risen in decades.
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So we're seeing good things happen. So this guy
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says this, after all this good, positive things,
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he says, sadly, a wave to false Jesus. I'm like,
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what? Because after my catching a wave, a wave
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to false Jesus. So what did he mean by that?
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He says, we need to read and even more so study
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the Bible rightly divided. Amen. I agree. Definitely.
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We're reading the same Bible, I think. It's funny,
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though, you have different eyes, different perspectives.
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He says, there's a counterfeit coming. It's been
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happening since Jesus Christ resurrected. Well,
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we know that. We know that. The Bible doesn't
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say it will get better. So we need to be really
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saved, discerning, and ready. So what does that
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have to do with their conversion? I think he's
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looking for a massive downturn and destruction,
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yet we're seeing this great end -time harvest,
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and God's moving. Exactly. Why not get excited
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about that? Instead of throwing buckets of cold
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water on new Christians, why not build them up?
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Why not disciple them? Exactly. Why not get them
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in the Bible? So that when the bottom drops out,
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you can handle. They'll be ready. Exactly. But
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that was a terrible statement. It is. This is
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a joke. We need to have more of a positive outlook,
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especially when people get saved. I'm going to
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refrain saying what I really think about this.
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Because we can't judge everyone's salvation.
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You know what I mean? I mean, there may be people
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that it wasn't real, but. But why not celebrate
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those that are? Why not let God be the judge
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of that, not us? That is just wrong. It's called
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living up in a down world. Right. That's the
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title of our podcast. I mean, really, the idea
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is there's so much to be excited about in this
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world. We know the world is off the rails. We
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know things aren't great. But we need to look
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at the positive things and not at the negative
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things. Yes. My gosh. You know, Jesus, the Bible
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says he was filled with joy, the oil of joy,
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more than all of his brethren. I mean, he was.
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He was joy. The second fruit of the Spirit is
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joy. I know I say this a lot. I'm a broken record,
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but I just get frustrated when... People can't
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see the good, and they're always looking for
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the bad. In our Bible study, we were talking
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about how some people— Set that up a little bit
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because not everybody knows what you're talking
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about. Yeah, I'm in a Bible study with a bunch
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of women on Thursday mornings, and we're talking
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about the seven mountains. And today, though,
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we were talking about the mountains of arts and
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entertainment, which is, you know, the arts and
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entertainment world is— there's so much propaganda
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in there and just evil. But we were talking about—
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Within this Bible study, we were talking about
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how some people don't believe we're supposed
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to be happy as Christians. And I said, I made
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the comment. I said, well, you know, in the Beatitudes,
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it says, blessed are you, blessed are you, blessed
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are you. That means happy are you. So why would
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God say happy if we're supposed to be sad all
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the time and mad and doom and gloom? No. And
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obviously he wants us to be full of joy. The
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joy of the Lord is our strength. Hello. Joy relates
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to being happy, being full in him and enjoying
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his presence. Joy is enjoying. Think about that.
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And so why would we? I mean, how can we lead
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people to Christ if we're not happy? And if we
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know where we're going. Yes. Why would that not
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light up our circumstances? We have darkness
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here. And right now doesn't mean that we won't
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have it. We have to endure the light of the world.
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So we're light in a dark world. We're up in a
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down world. It's the same thing. Another piece
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of that, which I think is really critical, is
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that. First of all, we know that I love what
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Steve Maxwell said when he had his encounter
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with Jesus after he died for 15 minutes. And
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he said, heaven isn't out there. It's not up
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there. It's right here. He just put it over his
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face like it's literally right there. So there's
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so much to live for. There's so much good to
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live for. And there's so much. joy to be had
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and found. The word blessed means happy. It literally
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means that. That doesn't mean goofy. It doesn't
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mean silly. It means there's a joy that penetrates
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the darkness. It's a light that penetrates dark
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and it's life giving. Well, and go back to the
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K -Love Awards that we were at. Most of the artists,
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they do a showcase, artist showcase where they
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talk about their songs, where the song came from.
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And most of the people, that we heard from these
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artists, their songs reflected a deep, dark place
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they were in, but they were able to come out
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of it because of Jesus. That, that should, that
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to me, that was so, I loved how vulnerable they
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were in telling their, their weaknesses, like
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a Katie. Katie Nicole. Nicole talked about. Ben
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Fuller. Yeah, but Katie talked about her being
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in. She has depression. Depression. She struggles
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with chronic pain. And so when she writes her
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songs, it's out of that pain, but she's given
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God the glory. And I love that. Ben Fuller, he
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was an addict. 15 years. 15 years. He was in
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the country music world. And now he's become
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a Christian. Now, did that make everything fine?
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No. But now he has a better. outlook. And so
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when he sings, you can feel God in his songs,
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the presence. That's what I love. What they're
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singing about is they've been redeemed from that.
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I noticed something in social media. This is,
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it's always bothered me. I've never verbalized
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it like in the open so much, but if I write a
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post, I do a daily devotional. And if I write
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a post about living a victorious life, I get
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like no likes. I mean, people are like, Because
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people tend to relate more in pain than they
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do in victory. They do. They do in joy. But we
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need to flip the script on that. As believers,
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we've got to grab hold of this fruit of the Spirit
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called joy. First one's love. Second one out
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of the nine is joy. We've got to grab it. And
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sometimes you've got to grab joy by faith. It's
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not a feeling. Right. It's intentional. But it's
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hard. And I can get that. I do too. Yesterday
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we got bad news. We've had issues with their
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kitchen. We've been in the process of rebuilding
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and remodeling our kitchen for a year and a half.
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Almost two years. And the cabinet people went
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out of business, dropped all of our cabinets
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off unfinished, basically. We've been in a dispute
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with them, with a credit card company, trying
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to get our money back because we had to pay someone
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else to redo them. And we got news yesterday
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that Citibank is... Siding with them, even though
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we have pictures, we have emails from them. Total
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ripoff. We're out $15 ,000 that we're being stolen.
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Now we have a choice. And so yesterday I wallowed
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in it a little bit because I was mad. I was mad.
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Well, I think I was in shock that now we have
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to pay an extra $15 ,000. No matter what level
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it is. And I was bothered. I literally, I had
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to get to the point, because that's a lot of
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money for us. And what did you hear me say this
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morning? What? What did you say? I don't know.
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I didn't have my coffee, so I don't remember
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everything you said. You're in a fog. You can't
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talk to me when I don't have my coffee. I literally
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said out loud, I forgive them. I release them.
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Yes. I refuse to let them. And we'll let God
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judge them. I'm not going to let their actions
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dictate my mood, my countenance, and I trust
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God. With the outcomes. That He'll return it
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back to us a hundredfold. He'll take care of
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it. I don't have to worry about it. And I had
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to, this morning, I had to literally go, God,
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this is in your hands. We're out this money.
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I'm asking for you to... Restore that money back
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to us because this was not our fault. None of
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this was our fault. We were listening to Caleb
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this morning, and I love that they said that
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there was a survey, and they were asking people
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what their favorite story is in the Old Testament.
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Remember that this morning before we came to
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work? And I told you my favorite story is Joseph.
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Oh, that's great. And I think it's because Joseph,
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he didn't do anything wrong, although I'm a sinner.
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I've done a lot of things wrong. in my life,
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even as a Christian, but he had not. And yet
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he was wrongly accused. He was, he was enslaved.
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He was put in a, you know, a pit. He was enslaved.
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He was put in prison, falsely accused of rape,
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and he was put in prison. But in the end, God.
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restored him a hundredfold and he became second
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in command in his nation. And I think that's
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how I ended well, he finished strong, he finished
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strong because he didn't give up. And I feel
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like for me, I, in thinking about hearing, you
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know, Caleb talk about, um, people's, you know,
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their old Testament. favorite. And I thought
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about that. I'm like, Lord, why did I think that?
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And I think it's because of where we're at right
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now. We didn't do anything wrong. We didn't cause
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our cabinet people to go out of business and
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to not finish our project. And yet we're out
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and then lie that they did. And yet here we're
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out 15 ,000 because we had to pay someone else.
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And I'm like, Lord, you, you're our redeemer.
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There it is. You're, you can restore this. And
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I had to switch the, I mean, I had to flip the
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switch on, okay, God, we're going to walk in
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joy in this, even though it's hard. It's not
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fair. It is not fair. Now you sound like a teenager.
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But, you know, someone asked me, well, can you
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get an attorney and can you sue? Well, yeah,
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it would probably cost more money than it would
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be what we lost. It wouldn't be worth the effort.
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But as Christians, this is the difference. As
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worldly people, we could just... bad mouth and
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we could go online and put them down and call
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them out. Or we can say, you know what? God is
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going to redeem this. We don't know how. We don't
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know how He's going to restore $15 ,000 to us.
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Can I get the word on this? Yeah, get the word
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on it. Let's get the word on this. The thing
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is, what we're talking about right now, everybody
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can put their own story into that because everyone's
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had stuff happen. Whatever they've been lied
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about, they got unjustly fired. I mean, all kinds
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of house burned down. We've all got stuff, right?
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Where things happen and it's like, it wasn't
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your fault. You didn't cause any of it. You just
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happened to be the recipient of it. Here's what
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Psalm 91, I've been spending a lot of time in
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Psalm 91. That's been my go -to. Those who live
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in the shelter of the Most High will find rest
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in the shadow of the Almighty. You know, we heard
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this a lot at K -Love too. We did. And you know,
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you don't go to K -Love and experience everything
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we experienced. Come back home, get bad news,
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and then go back to the way we used to be. No,
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we can't. That's why those experiences that we
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have. that lead us to Psalm 91 should help us
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be able to overcome this rather than sit in it.
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Wait a minute. You're talking about living in
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victory. We will get no likes on this podcast.
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We won't. That's true. Yeah. We're trying to
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overcome. It's so hard. It is hard. And that's
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the thing. But it doesn't mean we don't have
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hard times. Let me say it this way. It's simple,
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but it's not easy. Simple doesn't mean easy.
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But to choose victory, to choose blessing, to
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choose joy when everything is happening around
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you, screaming, run the other way, or quit, or
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give up, or end it. And that's the fight we're
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in. The Apostle Paul told young Timothy, he said,
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fight the good fight of the faith. And the thing
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is, we all have a fight to fight. We have many
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of them and there's many battles. We know that
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ultimately the war has been won. Jesus died on
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the cross. He took the keys of hell, death and
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the grave from the enemy, the keys of the kingdom.
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And he took them away and he's given them to
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us. But now this is where we have to fight our
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own battles. Jesus had to go through his temptation.
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He had to go through his being unjustly. accused,
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being slandered, being betrayed by some of the
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people closest to him. He had to go through his.
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We're going through ours. Now the question is,
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what will we choose? Because this comes down
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to a choice. It comes down to a decision. It
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doesn't come down to how you feel. If we operate
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out of our feelings, we'll be blown like a West
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Texas spring wind, which can be 60 miles an hour
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with these storms we've been having. And you're
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just blown back and forth. But when you choose
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and you say, no matter what it feels like, I
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choose this. My heart says, choose the right
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thing. My head wants to go the other way because
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my head's subject to my flesh. But my heart knows
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and trusts that God is good. No matter what,
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I can with my mouth say, I forgive them. I release
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them. And I release them to God. And I take it
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another step. I bless them. And when I bless
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them, I place them under God's canopy of justice.
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God's canopy of righteousness, God's canopy of
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truth, and now He's the judge, not me. Right,
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exactly. Which means we can't come in the aftermath
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of being stolen from and badmouth them if we
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say we forgive, release, and bless. Right, exactly.
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Does that make sense? This sounds impossible,
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and in your mind and in your flesh, it is. But
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this is part of our spiritual growth. Yes. It's
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very telling about your growth. how you respond
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to things like this that happens, betrayal or
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injustice or anything like that. And I want to
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be found faithful. Yes. And yet it's hard because
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we're human and we're... We're not happy. This
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was a huge setback. Right. But I really felt
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like even today, because, you know, I had my
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day yesterday where I was just very somber. I
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didn't really, I just was somber. Your brownie
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mix day. My brownie mix. Because I was in shock.
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And today I felt like the Lord said, it's only
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money, even though it's like, it's only money.
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It's a chunk of change. It's a chunk of change.
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But you know what, at the end of the day in the
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big picture, it's not going to matter. Yeah.
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Not going to matter. Yeah. It's funny because
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I opened up the mail yesterday and there was
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a letter in there and it was from, I didn't know
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I had a 401k. I guess I just started it when
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I worked. Back in the day. Franklin Dental Care.
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And I got a thing from Vanguard saying, if you'll
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send this in, we tried to send you a check in
00:26:00.869 --> 00:26:04.589
2017. I was hoping it was $15 ,000. It was $99.
00:26:05.170 --> 00:26:09.839
But I'm like, okay, there's a 99. of the $15
00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:13.460
,000. Okay, God, this is a sign. I was thinking,
00:26:13.619 --> 00:26:16.420
because that came out of nowhere. We're talking,
00:26:16.500 --> 00:26:19.359
what, nine years ago, eight years ago. I'm like,
00:26:19.500 --> 00:26:23.980
what? I mean, that's pretty crazy. And so I was
00:26:23.980 --> 00:26:27.000
like, okay, God, He can get it to us somehow.
00:26:27.299 --> 00:26:28.380
He can get us that money. So think about what
00:26:28.380 --> 00:26:32.500
the enemy intends. Speaking of Joseph, what a
00:26:32.500 --> 00:26:34.440
great line at the end of that story. It says,
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:38.490
what the enemy intended to destroy. God is used
00:26:38.490 --> 00:26:40.890
for good. And that's what the, you know, so the
00:26:40.890 --> 00:26:43.150
enemy, we come off of this weekend, we're high,
00:26:43.289 --> 00:26:45.869
we're, our buckets are full and overflowing.
00:26:45.890 --> 00:26:48.109
We're like singing the songs in our head. We're
00:26:48.109 --> 00:26:51.529
replaying the moments. Yeah. And then boom, we
00:26:51.529 --> 00:26:54.529
just get this news like out of nowhere, left
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field. I felt this, remember all weekend at the
00:26:58.369 --> 00:27:00.869
Caleb, I felt this darkness. Remember I told
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you, and I talked about it with the Currys because
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they went with us, this heaviness. And I, I wasn't
00:27:07.940 --> 00:27:10.960
sure. I just had a lot of things inside that
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:12.980
have been hanging over us, mainly our kitchen.
00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:19.339
It is still not done, still not done. And I think
00:27:19.339 --> 00:27:22.539
subconsciously it was worrying whether this is
00:27:22.539 --> 00:27:26.220
because they credited the monies back to the
00:27:26.220 --> 00:27:30.240
Citibank card, but they hadn't given a letter
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:33.960
saying it was complete. And then now. One day
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from the deadline. Wow. One day. One day from
00:27:36.940 --> 00:27:38.960
the deadline. It's been, what, six months? Six
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:41.579
months. We get the bad news. Now, we can take
00:27:41.579 --> 00:27:44.720
that and go cry. You had your cry yesterday.
00:27:44.940 --> 00:27:47.680
I didn't cry, but I almost did. Like I said,
00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:53.160
I think I was in shock. Or we can say, not today,
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:56.910
Satan. Yeah. No. No, we will not give over our
00:27:56.910 --> 00:27:59.089
joy to that. Right. Just like I wouldn't give
00:27:59.089 --> 00:28:01.210
my joy over to that guy who wrote that stupid
00:28:01.210 --> 00:28:03.529
comment. Yeah. I'm not going to give my joy over
00:28:03.529 --> 00:28:05.250
that. I mean, he's the guy who makes all of us
00:28:05.250 --> 00:28:06.890
look bad. You know what I mean? Right. I'm not
00:28:06.890 --> 00:28:09.410
going to give away my heart to that. Right. And
00:28:09.410 --> 00:28:11.930
make room for that in my mind or my heart or
00:28:11.930 --> 00:28:14.990
my head. And so how, okay, so we've talked about
00:28:14.990 --> 00:28:18.609
this. Let's talk about this practical. So what's
00:28:18.609 --> 00:28:21.509
our go -to? How do we, when you get news like
00:28:21.509 --> 00:28:23.809
that and you're reeling from it because you're
00:28:23.809 --> 00:28:26.069
trying to process it all because it was just
00:28:26.069 --> 00:28:28.609
wrong at the end of the day, how do we turn the
00:28:28.609 --> 00:28:32.329
corner to find that victory? I went to the Word.
00:28:32.490 --> 00:28:34.710
I went to the Word of God. Now, I didn't just
00:28:34.710 --> 00:28:37.369
go get my Bible out and start looking. I just
00:28:37.369 --> 00:28:39.950
began to remember scriptures in my head. And
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the biggest one was... Forgiveness. Well, and
00:28:43.059 --> 00:28:44.539
one of the things I do. I don't want to be in
00:28:44.539 --> 00:28:46.319
a prison of my own making. Right. One of the
00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:49.000
things I do is I go back to where God's been
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:52.480
faithful in the past. Yes. Because we have history
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:56.380
with God. If you've never had history, you can't
00:28:56.380 --> 00:28:59.779
go back. And some people have to start. But we've
00:28:59.779 --> 00:29:02.660
had history in God where he's restored when we've
00:29:02.660 --> 00:29:05.740
lost. And he's restored everything. And I just,
00:29:05.779 --> 00:29:08.759
I have to go, God, you did it before. Yeah. I
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:11.400
know you'll do it again. Very good. The founding,
00:29:11.460 --> 00:29:14.019
the building block or the foundation of faith
00:29:14.019 --> 00:29:16.180
is trust. Yeah. And that's what you're saying.
00:29:16.259 --> 00:29:18.920
He's trustworthy. He's trustworthy. If he's worthy
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.660
of our trust, then he should be worthy of our
00:29:21.660 --> 00:29:24.059
trust when things don't look good. Right. And
00:29:24.059 --> 00:29:25.640
that means when you get the bad news. Because
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:27.579
he's good all the time. He's not only good when
00:29:27.579 --> 00:29:30.079
we want it, when we, when he's good to us or
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:32.720
when, when things are going well, he's good.
00:29:33.130 --> 00:29:35.289
All the time. It's easy to be, oh, yeah, yay,
00:29:35.390 --> 00:29:37.849
God, when things are going well. But when the
00:29:37.849 --> 00:29:40.490
bottom drops out and you wake up the next day
00:29:40.490 --> 00:29:42.150
like we did this morning, we went on our walk
00:29:42.150 --> 00:29:44.410
this morning, and I said, I choose to forgive.
00:29:44.690 --> 00:29:47.680
And I said, I choose. I didn't say I feel like
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:50.380
forgiving them. I said I'm making a choice to
00:29:50.380 --> 00:29:51.599
forgive. And I don't know if it's the cabinet.
00:29:51.619 --> 00:29:53.960
People were at Citibank. I think it's Citibank.
00:29:54.019 --> 00:29:56.279
I don't think the cabinet people ever responded
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:58.940
because Citibank said last week and never heard
00:29:58.940 --> 00:29:59.420
from them. So we don't even know who to be mad
00:29:59.420 --> 00:30:00.759
at, right? Yeah, exactly. If we wanted to be
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:01.599
mad, we don't even know who to be mad at. I think
00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:04.339
I'm mad at the Visa company. I'm mad at the devil.
00:30:04.660 --> 00:30:06.220
Well, yeah, I'm mad at the devil, too. In the
00:30:06.220 --> 00:30:08.329
words of Striper and one of their... Best Songs
00:30:08.329 --> 00:30:10.710
Ever to Hell with the Devil. Oh, my gosh. That's
00:30:10.710 --> 00:30:12.309
the name of the song. Wow. It's the name of the
00:30:12.309 --> 00:30:14.930
album, too. It is. So, yeah, check it out. Probably
00:30:14.930 --> 00:30:18.670
from 1989. But anyway, back in the day. You should
00:30:18.670 --> 00:30:21.289
play a little clip of it. Oh, my gosh. Well,
00:30:21.450 --> 00:30:23.690
yeah. You could. I maybe have it on a ringtone,
00:30:23.789 --> 00:30:26.970
probably. It probably is. Anyway, so I want to
00:30:26.970 --> 00:30:30.009
end the show today, our podcast, talking about
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what do you do? So you turn to things like your
00:30:32.730 --> 00:30:35.069
history in God. That's a great one there. I love
00:30:35.069 --> 00:30:36.829
that. I remember when we heard that years ago.
00:30:37.289 --> 00:30:40.289
where we have to understand if God brought me
00:30:40.289 --> 00:30:43.049
this far, he's not brought me this far to abandon
00:30:43.049 --> 00:30:45.269
me or to let me fall. Well, our first history
00:30:45.269 --> 00:30:47.529
of God is when we got saved. Oh, yeah, totally.
00:30:47.609 --> 00:30:50.190
That's it. So, I mean, you can't say I don't
00:30:50.190 --> 00:30:52.089
have a history with God. And if nothing else
00:30:52.089 --> 00:30:54.410
happened, the fact that I'm going to heaven instead
00:30:54.410 --> 00:30:57.170
of hell, that should be enough. That is an indication.
00:30:57.390 --> 00:30:59.839
Man. God's work. You can bank on that. Yeah,
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:02.299
exactly. Maybe we've got to put up with some
00:31:02.299 --> 00:31:04.779
stuff in the in -between, living here in this
00:31:04.779 --> 00:31:07.819
fallen world, down world as we call it. But at
00:31:07.819 --> 00:31:10.440
the end of the day, He's good. He's faithful.
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:12.680
So the faithfulness of God, the trustworthiness
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:16.019
of God, the goodness of God, then that's something
00:31:16.019 --> 00:31:18.740
you've got to decide before the bottom drops
00:31:18.740 --> 00:31:21.880
out or before you get the news, the news that
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:25.289
we got or anything in your life. Because stuff
00:31:25.289 --> 00:31:27.829
happens in this world, and it's not always fair,
00:31:27.910 --> 00:31:30.150
and it doesn't always add up. And if you've already
00:31:30.150 --> 00:31:33.130
decided God's good, you've already decided, I
00:31:33.130 --> 00:31:35.170
refuse. I love what Michael W. Smith said a number
00:31:35.170 --> 00:31:36.910
of years ago in one of the documentaries we saw.
00:31:37.009 --> 00:31:39.269
He said one of the things, one of his number
00:31:39.269 --> 00:31:43.069
one things is, I refuse to ever be offended again
00:31:43.069 --> 00:31:47.049
in my life. I refuse to be offended. I will be
00:31:47.049 --> 00:31:49.230
unoffendable. Right. I don't know if you remember
00:31:49.230 --> 00:31:51.829
that. I do. I will never forget it. I refuse.
00:31:51.930 --> 00:31:53.289
I will never be offended again. Because we can
00:31:53.289 --> 00:31:55.759
receive that. offense, but we can do something
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:57.880
with it. And that is just to throw it out and
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:00.819
not allow us, we don't live and dwell in it.
00:32:00.940 --> 00:32:03.079
Not carry it. And this is an offense to us to
00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:06.299
be ripped off. So we have a choice. Do we carry
00:32:06.299 --> 00:32:08.559
it or do we reject it and drop those seeds to
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:10.900
the ground and say, no way, not today, Satan.
00:32:11.019 --> 00:32:14.339
Yeah, that's good. That's real. That's victorious
00:32:14.339 --> 00:32:16.960
living. That's living up in a down world. That's
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:19.559
living as though you're blessed instead of cursed.
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:24.430
I'm happy. Yeah. Are you happy? I'm hungry right
00:32:24.430 --> 00:32:27.210
now. You're hungry. I'll be happy when I get
00:32:27.210 --> 00:32:28.349
some food in my belly. We do have some people
00:32:28.349 --> 00:32:30.950
to thank. Yes. Steve Wise. What a wonderful night.
00:32:31.170 --> 00:32:32.710
You've got to share this. We went to dinner last
00:32:32.710 --> 00:32:35.809
night with one of our listeners. He and his wife,
00:32:35.970 --> 00:32:39.690
Steve and Stephanie Wise, came in town, asked
00:32:39.690 --> 00:32:42.630
us and the Currys to pick our favorite steak
00:32:42.630 --> 00:32:44.589
place or barbecue place. Our favorite barbecue
00:32:44.589 --> 00:32:47.069
place was not having barbecue last night, so
00:32:47.069 --> 00:32:50.599
we chose a steak place. And he blessed us. They
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.039
blessed us with a wonderful meal. And we got
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:55.759
to hear their story and who they are. And he
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:59.119
does technical for Lyle Lovett. Well, what he
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:03.230
is, he's the front line sound guy. For Lyle Lovett.
00:33:03.269 --> 00:33:05.609
It has been for years. In fact, when we asked
00:33:05.609 --> 00:33:07.630
him, what do you do? Because we were just meeting
00:33:07.630 --> 00:33:10.150
him for the first time. But they've been a faithful
00:33:10.150 --> 00:33:13.190
giver. Thank you, Steve. I didn't put it together
00:33:13.190 --> 00:33:16.529
last night until you drove off and I went, that's
00:33:16.529 --> 00:33:18.950
Steve Wise. He's the one who's been giving to
00:33:18.950 --> 00:33:21.869
us monthly. And we want to thank you for that,
00:33:21.910 --> 00:33:23.789
especially right now. Thank you for the 60 -ounce
00:33:23.789 --> 00:33:25.789
ribeye last night, too. That was amazing. But
00:33:25.789 --> 00:33:29.450
when we asked him what he did and he said he
00:33:29.450 --> 00:33:32.440
worked technical for Lyle Lovett, I was expecting
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:35.799
him to laugh like it was a joke. But it was true.
00:33:35.940 --> 00:33:37.559
That's what he does for a living. That's why
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:39.559
they're in Texas. I was like, oh. They live in
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:42.140
Las Vegas. They're visiting Texas. But it took
00:33:42.140 --> 00:33:44.079
a little time for vacation to come over and hang
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:46.460
out with us and the Currys. But also, they've
00:33:46.460 --> 00:33:49.079
got a show coming up with Lyle. With Lyle Lovett
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:52.180
in Tomball. Starting a new tour in Tomball. And
00:33:52.180 --> 00:33:55.259
then she works for Cirque du Soleil. How do you
00:33:55.259 --> 00:34:01.160
say that? Circus. Yeah. Did I say it right? Oh,
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:02.519
okay. It is French. It is French, and I'm from
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:04.599
West Texas, so that won't happen. And she's worked
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:08.699
for them for 23 years, she said. She's a technical
00:34:08.699 --> 00:34:11.349
director for them. It was a delight. to meet
00:34:11.349 --> 00:34:14.570
them and get to spend time. I wish we would have
00:34:14.570 --> 00:34:17.269
connected who they were while we were sitting
00:34:17.269 --> 00:34:20.250
there instead of when they drove off because
00:34:20.250 --> 00:34:22.550
it didn't, I knew you had talked to him through
00:34:22.550 --> 00:34:25.690
email, but we, I didn't connect that they're
00:34:25.690 --> 00:34:29.150
the ones who've been faithful listeners and givers
00:34:29.150 --> 00:34:32.690
and Steve, Stephanie, thank you. If you're listening
00:34:32.690 --> 00:34:34.789
to this, which I hope you are, I know you are.
00:34:35.010 --> 00:34:37.769
Um, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That dinner
00:34:37.769 --> 00:34:40.500
was next time you come in. It's our time to buy.
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.079
It's our treat next time. So, but thank you.
00:34:43.099 --> 00:34:45.579
It was a blessing. It was such a blessing. Who
00:34:45.579 --> 00:34:47.800
else? James Barron. He's a, he's a regular giver.
00:34:47.860 --> 00:34:50.679
Adam Curry. I saw he boosted us again. I mean,
00:34:50.699 --> 00:34:54.199
Adam Curry's a regular giver and just our best
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:57.039
friend ever. Yes. And that's who we went to Caleb
00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:59.019
with. And we're going to Florida with them in
00:34:59.019 --> 00:35:00.820
July. We travel with our besties. Yeah. You know,
00:35:00.820 --> 00:35:03.260
there's, it's, travel's not always easy with
00:35:03.260 --> 00:35:06.289
everybody. We've had one of those trips. Well,
00:35:06.309 --> 00:35:09.050
we've decided that the K -Love trip is just us
00:35:09.050 --> 00:35:11.829
four and no more. We are not inviting other people.
00:35:11.949 --> 00:35:14.789
That is a special time. It's so hard to corral
00:35:14.789 --> 00:35:16.929
a lot of people. It's hard to get six people
00:35:16.929 --> 00:35:19.929
to sit at a table anywhere. And so that's kind
00:35:19.929 --> 00:35:25.170
of our secret vacation, yearly vacation. We all
00:35:25.170 --> 00:35:29.409
signed up again. It's just beautiful. I highly
00:35:29.409 --> 00:35:31.289
recommend you watching the awards tomorrow night.
00:35:31.289 --> 00:35:33.769
So here's my question for you. Yes. Audio or
00:35:33.769 --> 00:35:36.349
video? Well, I like audio because you know me,
00:35:36.409 --> 00:35:39.329
I don't like pictures of myself and videos. Kind
00:35:39.329 --> 00:35:41.349
of leaning towards audio with this and then video
00:35:41.349 --> 00:35:43.250
with the interview. I think that's the way it
00:35:43.250 --> 00:35:45.650
should go because I feel more comfortable when
00:35:45.650 --> 00:35:48.469
I'm not worried about the camera. And when we're
00:35:48.469 --> 00:35:50.949
off in July, we can take one of the rigs home
00:35:50.949 --> 00:35:52.730
and we can do it at the house. Yeah, we'll be
00:35:52.730 --> 00:35:54.949
taking the whole month off in July again. We
00:35:54.949 --> 00:35:56.929
do that every year. Every year. It's our rest
00:35:56.929 --> 00:35:59.730
time. That way we can keep up. I don't like missing.
00:36:00.010 --> 00:36:02.869
Yeah. I feel like we're... Not that we're letting
00:36:02.869 --> 00:36:04.929
people down, but we're not building people up
00:36:04.929 --> 00:36:06.949
that we could. Does that make sense? Yeah. We'll
00:36:06.949 --> 00:36:08.190
try to be more consistent. We're going to be
00:36:08.190 --> 00:36:10.030
more consistent. And I think we can do that on
00:36:10.030 --> 00:36:11.969
the audio side a lot easier. And we're trying
00:36:11.969 --> 00:36:13.849
to keep it to a minimum because we recognize
00:36:13.849 --> 00:36:16.590
your time is valuable. Which, by the way, our
00:36:16.590 --> 00:36:18.949
time's up. Oh, and we want to be, we want to
00:36:18.949 --> 00:36:20.969
value you. I was letting you rock. You're rocking
00:36:20.969 --> 00:36:22.789
and rolling today. Thank you for sharing today.
00:36:22.829 --> 00:36:24.929
You shared some amazing things. It was great.
00:36:24.969 --> 00:36:26.809
And it's just good being on the mic with you
00:36:26.809 --> 00:36:29.929
again and, and reminiscing about an amazing weekend
00:36:29.929 --> 00:36:31.989
where we were very blessed. Very, very blessed.
00:36:32.210 --> 00:36:33.909
So yeah. So Faith, if you'll go ahead and hit
00:36:33.909 --> 00:36:37.980
our outro there. There it is. Well, again, we
00:36:37.980 --> 00:36:40.980
want to thank you for joining us. Episode 100.
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100. Big Mark. Milestone. Living up in a down
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world. We want you to have an amazing day. Yes.
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:47.699
On purpose.
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Don't get down when you're seeing the worst.
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Cause the last. This is Jimmy Nanette, and we
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are coming to you from our studio in the middle
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of Fredericksburg, Texas. Good morning to you.
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Good morning. It's been a minute. It has. It's
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been a hot minute since we've been on the air
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together and have done a podcast. Yes. I've missed
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this. Well, we've been kind of busy. We've been
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very busy. And traveling. We're going to have
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more. construction going on in the church so
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we may have to move it home you know what if
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there's if you hear something if you're listening
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today and you hear stuff banging and you won't
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today though they're not doing anything stuff
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out there yeah they are actually they're fixing
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that hole That's true. So, yeah, there's stuff
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going on here all the time. That's just the way
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it is. It's our life. We're always under construction.
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Well, luckily, our office is pretty, or our studio,
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I should say, looks more like a studio than an
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office at this point. Oh, definitely looks like
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a studio. Luckily, we have it pretty soundproofed.
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Yeah. No, it's fantastic. It's just when they're
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above us that that's where it sounds like. A
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freight train. Yeah, and we're doing audio only
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today. Yes. Yeah, I didn't want to have to make
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Faith do all the production side of it. Even
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though she's in here and would do it. She's with
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us, but I didn't want to have to do all that
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production side of it because... Most people,
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hey, somebody's at the door. See, this is our
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life. Yeah, you can answer the door. This is
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totally our life. Hey, it's okay. It is what
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it is. We want to welcome you to Living Up and
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Down World. I think we're on episode number 100.
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You think? I think it's 100. I thought it was
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like. It may be 99. But you don't know. I can
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tell you. I can look it up. So let me see where
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we're at on this. Do you know? No, I'm looking.
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Okay, look. Do you know what episode we're on?
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Do you think it is? I think it's 100. I was thinking
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it was 90. I thought it was 98. We have been
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running and gunning and blowing and going. So
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I'm looking it up right now, going to my dashboard
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here. We are on number 100. We are. Wow. There
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should be like bells going off or something.
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We should have like fireworks going off. 100
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in our busy life. Wow. 100 episodes. Well, we
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finally did it. That's a milestone for us. That
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is a milestone. You're looking particularly spiffy
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this morning. Absolutely gorgeous, as always.
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People are going to tell us to get a room if
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you keep doing that. Room with a view. Room with
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a view. We have a lot of travel. I don't want
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to go into all of our travels, but we did have
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a really big, wonderful, fun weekend. We just
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got back from the K -Love Fan Awards. Someone
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asked me, why would you want to go to that? Oh,
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my gosh. Because we get ministered to. This is
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where we can go. And it's not just... It's not
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just concerts. It's actual mostly worship where
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we can go and receive. Whereas when we're here
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at the church. We're thinking about everything
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we're about to do, going to have to do. If the
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music is off, if it's, I mean, there's so many
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things going through our mind when we're here
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that we don't really become fully abandoned to
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worship. But we go there and it's like refreshing
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time. But receive. Yeah. And we just need to,
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everybody needs a place where they can go and
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get their buckets filled. Yes. And if you're
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a worshiper, you'll understand it. If you're
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not, you would not understand. But we love music.
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You're a guitar player. Going to play on the
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worship team this Sunday for the first time.
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I just did a sound check a little bit ago. Has
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it been a year? It's probably been over a year.
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It's probably been about a year since I played
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on the worship team, so I've been missing it.
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But this K -Love Awards, which will be shown
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on TBN tomorrow night, we were part of the actual
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taping. But we were also, they do a full -on...
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worship, concerts, speaking, all kinds of stuff
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from Friday through Sunday night in Nashville.
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Basically three, two and a half days of music.
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And it's the highlight of our year. We go every
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year. This is our third year. Yeah, it's one
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of our favorite things we do. We already are
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signed up for next year. And CeCe Winans was
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probably my favorite. Wow. She is like the queen
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of gospel music. It was phenomenal. She's phenomenal.
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When she does That's My King. Oh. I just I just
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want to fall down. It is so good. And she led
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worship for the church. They actually have a
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church service on Sunday mornings for anyone
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who wants to come. And I mean, the whole place
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was packed out. We were almost on the back row
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and she led worship. So it was reminded me of
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when we were at our church at Bethel World Outreach
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Center. in Nashville and Debbie Winans, who was
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her sister, led worship. And they look just alike.
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They look alike. They sound alike. They both
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sing the same. And so it was like, it kind of
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took us back. It did for me in a good way. But
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she led worship. And then Jonathan, what Jonathan?
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Jonathan Pacluda. Pacluda. He. Did a phenomenal
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message, really spoke. He preached. He's one
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of the pastors. He's from Waco, Texas. He pastors
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a Baptist church in Waco. Of course, he's from
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Texas. All good pastors are from Texas. There
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we go. And so he spoke, and he's been part of
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a movement called the Unite Us Movement. And
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what it is, it's a group that goes to all these
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college campuses. They've been to 17 college
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campuses in about the last 18 months. Is it out
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of his church or is it just part of a movement?
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It's just part of it. They have several different
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people they bring in to speak and preach. And
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he's done 17 of these. I mean, on Auburn campus,
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all these college campuses. That you're hearing
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about. I got to sit down and visit with him for
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a little bit. And I just said, so tell me what's
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going on. I mean, what do you think's happening?
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He said, it's the gospel and it's Jesus. He said,
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God has stirred a hunger for Jesus. and the gospel
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of Jesus Christ in the next generation. Which
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is, they're our next leaders, which this is what
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we need. We don't need to regress. We need to
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progress. He said that he, in his meetings, the
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17 he's done, he has seen 20 ,000 students give
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their hearts to Christ, come to the altar and
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sign a card saying, I'm giving my life to Jesus
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Christ. They pray to receive Christ there. Then
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they get follow -up materials. Okay, I was going
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to say, I hope they're getting discipleship.
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They get materials and they plug, this is what's
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needed. about this movement. I read about it.
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One of their hearts is to make sure that students
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get plugged into local churches so they can be
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discipled, so they can grow. Because that was
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the one thing Billy Graham said he regretted.
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He said he did all of these revival meetings,
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but there was no follow -up. Remember him saying
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that before he passed? He said, that's my one
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regret that we didn't do. I would totally agree
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with that. So Jonathan, I was talking to him
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and I asked him about, so he said, yeah, definitely
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the gospel. There's a hunger for the gospel.
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It's new. The people that are leading this movement
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in all the meetings they've done. Boy, I said
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he's done 17. He hasn't done 17. There was. There's
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17 total so far. He's done some of those. He
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saw 20 ,000 people come to Christ. Gosh, just
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in the ones he saw. These are all college students.
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In all of the meetings combined, they had over
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80 ,000 young people give their hearts to Jesus.
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That's unbelievable. That is miraculous. It is.
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But yet you're not hearing that in the media.
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No, you won't see that in the media. CBN reports
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on it and several Christian outlets report on
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it. But really, it's almost an underground movement,
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even though it's happening on these campuses.
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Wow. I think it's just the beginning. I think
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we're seeing the beginning of an end time harvest
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that is going to be not just the great awakening,
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it's going to be the greatest awakening. Or the
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greater, I love that. Or the greater or greatest
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awakening where we're going to see hundreds of
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thousands of people come to Christ. We need to
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in this day and time. Which right now is happening
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all over the world, by the way. Yes, yes. So
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God is moving, as we say, Aslan is on the move.
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God is moving in major ways all over. And Jesus...
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He always used an interesting phrase when he
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was talking to not only his disciples, but when
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he was teaching to broader audiences, he would
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use this phrase for those who have ears to hear.
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And the reason that's so important is that. You
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can be sitting in a revival, and if you don't
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have ears to hear, you won't even see it. You
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won't even know that it's happening. And a lot
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of the historical revivals, a lot of people didn't
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even know they were in the middle of one. Right.
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And then they read about, oh, wait, we were in
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the middle of one? I didn't even know. History
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tells the story. Because when you're in it, you
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can't see the forest with the trees kind of thing.
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But right now, revival is happening across the
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world. And the bottom line is we have to ask
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ourselves, do I want to catch this wave? Yes.
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Do I want to be a part of it? And a lot of people
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don't. And that's part of my heart is to stir
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people's hearts to say, wherever it's happening,
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I want to be that revival looking for a place
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to happen. I want to be the awakening. Well,
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this reminds me, yesterday you posted a post
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about this revival happening, and you had great
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positive comments, and then you had that one.
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I actually shared that in my Bible study this
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morning, what that person said. Said that they're
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serving a fake Jesus. I'm like, what? So he's
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judging what this conversion that's happening
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with these young people. Who are giving their
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hearts to God. I'll read it to you. I think this
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is worthy of talking about. I was in shock. So
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I posted, I said, God is on the move like a wave.
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We don't generate the waves. We simply catch
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the waves that God brings our way. And I said,
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I don't want to miss his waves. Revival isn't
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coming. It's already here. I stole that line.
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It's already here from Twister. It's a great
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line. Because you watch that every time we get
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on a plane. And I was waiting for that line,
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just like you were watching. He's hilarious.
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And you were waiting for that line. So anyway,
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here's what this guy said. I'm not going to use
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his name. And I didn't respond to it because
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I don't respond to people who. who have a negative
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critical. There's no point. I don't have the
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energy for that. Here's what he said. So I shared
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the link from CBN .com. The return to religion
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is a turn to Jesus, even among its skeptics.
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And then it says most of us can't remember a
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time when belief in God was growing, but now
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it is. I got a report yesterday. Pastor Brian
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brought me that report from Barna Research Group
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saying that we're seeing a sharp rise in interest
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in the Bible, in the gospel, in Christianity.
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Christianity itself, not other occult stuff,
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but I mean, literally Christianity is rising
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in America as fast as it's risen in decades.
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So we're seeing good things happen. So this guy
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says this, after all this good, positive things,
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he says, sadly, a wave to false Jesus. I'm like,
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what? Because after my catching a wave, a wave
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to false Jesus. So what did he mean by that?
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He says, we need to read and even more so study
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the Bible rightly divided. Amen. I agree. Definitely.
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We're reading the same Bible, I think. It's funny,
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though, you have different eyes, different perspectives.
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He says, there's a counterfeit coming. It's been
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happening since Jesus Christ resurrected. Well,
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we know that. We know that. The Bible doesn't
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say it will get better. So we need to be really
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saved, discerning, and ready. So what does that
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have to do with their conversion? I think he's
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looking for a massive downturn and destruction,
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yet we're seeing this great end -time harvest,
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and God's moving. Exactly. Why not get excited
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about that? Instead of throwing buckets of cold
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water on new Christians, why not build them up?
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Why not disciple them? Exactly. Why not get them
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in the Bible? So that when the bottom drops out,
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you can handle. They'll be ready. Exactly. But
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that was a terrible statement. It is. This is
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a joke. We need to have more of a positive outlook,
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especially when people get saved. I'm going to
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refrain saying what I really think about this.
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Because we can't judge everyone's salvation.
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You know what I mean? I mean, there may be people
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that it wasn't real, but. But why not celebrate
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those that are? Why not let God be the judge
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of that, not us? That is just wrong. It's called
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living up in a down world. Right. That's the
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title of our podcast. I mean, really, the idea
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is there's so much to be excited about in this
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world. We know the world is off the rails. We
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know things aren't great. But we need to look
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at the positive things and not at the negative
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things. Yes. My gosh. You know, Jesus, the Bible
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says he was filled with joy, the oil of joy,
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more than all of his brethren. I mean, he was.
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He was joy. The second fruit of the Spirit is
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joy. I know I say this a lot. I'm a broken record,
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but I just get frustrated when... People can't
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see the good, and they're always looking for
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the bad. In our Bible study, we were talking
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about how some people— Set that up a little bit
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because not everybody knows what you're talking
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about. Yeah, I'm in a Bible study with a bunch
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of women on Thursday mornings, and we're talking
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about the seven mountains. And today, though,
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we were talking about the mountains of arts and
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entertainment, which is, you know, the arts and
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entertainment world is— there's so much propaganda
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in there and just evil. But we were talking about—
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Within this Bible study, we were talking about
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how some people don't believe we're supposed
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to be happy as Christians. And I said, I made
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the comment. I said, well, you know, in the Beatitudes,
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it says, blessed are you, blessed are you, blessed
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are you. That means happy are you. So why would
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God say happy if we're supposed to be sad all
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the time and mad and doom and gloom? No. And
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obviously he wants us to be full of joy. The
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joy of the Lord is our strength. Hello. Joy relates
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to being happy, being full in him and enjoying
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his presence. Joy is enjoying. Think about that.
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And so why would we? I mean, how can we lead
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people to Christ if we're not happy? And if we
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know where we're going. Yes. Why would that not
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light up our circumstances? We have darkness
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here. And right now doesn't mean that we won't
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have it. We have to endure the light of the world.
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So we're light in a dark world. We're up in a
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down world. It's the same thing. Another piece
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of that, which I think is really critical, is
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that. First of all, we know that I love what
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Steve Maxwell said when he had his encounter
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with Jesus after he died for 15 minutes. And
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he said, heaven isn't out there. It's not up
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there. It's right here. He just put it over his
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face like it's literally right there. So there's
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so much to live for. There's so much good to
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live for. And there's so much. joy to be had
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and found. The word blessed means happy. It literally
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means that. That doesn't mean goofy. It doesn't
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mean silly. It means there's a joy that penetrates
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the darkness. It's a light that penetrates dark
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and it's life giving. Well, and go back to the
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K -Love Awards that we were at. Most of the artists,
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they do a showcase, artist showcase where they
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talk about their songs, where the song came from.
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And most of the people, that we heard from these
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artists, their songs reflected a deep, dark place
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they were in, but they were able to come out
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of it because of Jesus. That, that should, that
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to me, that was so, I loved how vulnerable they
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were in telling their, their weaknesses, like
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a Katie. Katie Nicole. Nicole talked about. Ben
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Fuller. Yeah, but Katie talked about her being
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in. She has depression. Depression. She struggles
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with chronic pain. And so when she writes her
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songs, it's out of that pain, but she's given
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God the glory. And I love that. Ben Fuller, he
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was an addict. 15 years. 15 years. He was in
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the country music world. And now he's become
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a Christian. Now, did that make everything fine?
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No. But now he has a better. outlook. And so
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when he sings, you can feel God in his songs,
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the presence. That's what I love. What they're
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singing about is they've been redeemed from that.
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I noticed something in social media. This is,
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it's always bothered me. I've never verbalized
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it like in the open so much, but if I write a
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post, I do a daily devotional. And if I write
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a post about living a victorious life, I get
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like no likes. I mean, people are like, Because
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people tend to relate more in pain than they
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do in victory. They do. They do in joy. But we
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need to flip the script on that. As believers,
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we've got to grab hold of this fruit of the Spirit
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called joy. First one's love. Second one out
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of the nine is joy. We've got to grab it. And
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sometimes you've got to grab joy by faith. It's
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not a feeling. Right. It's intentional. But it's
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hard. And I can get that. I do too. Yesterday
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we got bad news. We've had issues with their
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kitchen. We've been in the process of rebuilding
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and remodeling our kitchen for a year and a half.
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Almost two years. And the cabinet people went
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out of business, dropped all of our cabinets
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off unfinished, basically. We've been in a dispute
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with them, with a credit card company, trying
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to get our money back because we had to pay someone
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else to redo them. And we got news yesterday
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that Citibank is... Siding with them, even though
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we have pictures, we have emails from them. Total
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ripoff. We're out $15 ,000 that we're being stolen.
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Now we have a choice. And so yesterday I wallowed
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in it a little bit because I was mad. I was mad.
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Well, I think I was in shock that now we have
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to pay an extra $15 ,000. No matter what level
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it is. And I was bothered. I literally, I had
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to get to the point, because that's a lot of
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money for us. And what did you hear me say this
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morning? What? What did you say? I don't know.
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I didn't have my coffee, so I don't remember
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everything you said. You're in a fog. You can't
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talk to me when I don't have my coffee. I literally
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said out loud, I forgive them. I release them.
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Yes. I refuse to let them. And we'll let God
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judge them. I'm not going to let their actions
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dictate my mood, my countenance, and I trust
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God. With the outcomes. That He'll return it
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back to us a hundredfold. He'll take care of
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it. I don't have to worry about it. And I had
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to, this morning, I had to literally go, God,
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this is in your hands. We're out this money.
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I'm asking for you to... Restore that money back
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to us because this was not our fault. None of
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this was our fault. We were listening to Caleb
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this morning, and I love that they said that
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there was a survey, and they were asking people
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what their favorite story is in the Old Testament.
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Remember that this morning before we came to
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work? And I told you my favorite story is Joseph.
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Oh, that's great. And I think it's because Joseph,
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he didn't do anything wrong, although I'm a sinner.
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I've done a lot of things wrong. in my life,
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even as a Christian, but he had not. And yet
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he was wrongly accused. He was, he was enslaved.
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He was put in a, you know, a pit. He was enslaved.
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He was put in prison, falsely accused of rape,
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and he was put in prison. But in the end, God.
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restored him a hundredfold and he became second
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in command in his nation. And I think that's
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how I ended well, he finished strong, he finished
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strong because he didn't give up. And I feel
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like for me, I, in thinking about hearing, you
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know, Caleb talk about, um, people's, you know,
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their old Testament. favorite. And I thought
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about that. I'm like, Lord, why did I think that?
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And I think it's because of where we're at right
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now. We didn't do anything wrong. We didn't cause
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our cabinet people to go out of business and
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to not finish our project. And yet we're out
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and then lie that they did. And yet here we're
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out 15 ,000 because we had to pay someone else.
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And I'm like, Lord, you, you're our redeemer.
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There it is. You're, you can restore this. And
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I had to switch the, I mean, I had to flip the
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switch on, okay, God, we're going to walk in
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joy in this, even though it's hard. It's not
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fair. It is not fair. Now you sound like a teenager.
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But, you know, someone asked me, well, can you
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get an attorney and can you sue? Well, yeah,
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it would probably cost more money than it would
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be what we lost. It wouldn't be worth the effort.
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But as Christians, this is the difference. As
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worldly people, we could just... bad mouth and
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we could go online and put them down and call
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them out. Or we can say, you know what? God is
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going to redeem this. We don't know how. We don't
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know how He's going to restore $15 ,000 to us.
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Can I get the word on this? Yeah, get the word
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on it. Let's get the word on this. The thing
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is, what we're talking about right now, everybody
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can put their own story into that because everyone's
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had stuff happen. Whatever they've been lied
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about, they got unjustly fired. I mean, all kinds
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of house burned down. We've all got stuff, right?
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Where things happen and it's like, it wasn't
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your fault. You didn't cause any of it. You just
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happened to be the recipient of it. Here's what
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Psalm 91, I've been spending a lot of time in
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Psalm 91. That's been my go -to. Those who live
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in the shelter of the Most High will find rest
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in the shadow of the Almighty. You know, we heard
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this a lot at K -Love too. We did. And you know,
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you don't go to K -Love and experience everything
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we experienced. Come back home, get bad news,
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and then go back to the way we used to be. No,
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we can't. That's why those experiences that we
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have. that lead us to Psalm 91 should help us
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be able to overcome this rather than sit in it.
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Wait a minute. You're talking about living in
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victory. We will get no likes on this podcast.
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We won't. That's true. Yeah. We're trying to
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overcome. It's so hard. It is hard. And that's
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the thing. But it doesn't mean we don't have
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hard times. Let me say it this way. It's simple,
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but it's not easy. Simple doesn't mean easy.
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But to choose victory, to choose blessing, to
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choose joy when everything is happening around
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you, screaming, run the other way, or quit, or
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give up, or end it. And that's the fight we're
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in. The Apostle Paul told young Timothy, he said,
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fight the good fight of the faith. And the thing
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is, we all have a fight to fight. We have many
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of them and there's many battles. We know that
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ultimately the war has been won. Jesus died on
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the cross. He took the keys of hell, death and
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the grave from the enemy, the keys of the kingdom.
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And he took them away and he's given them to
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us. But now this is where we have to fight our
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own battles. Jesus had to go through his temptation.
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He had to go through his being unjustly. accused,
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being slandered, being betrayed by some of the
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people closest to him. He had to go through his.
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We're going through ours. Now the question is,
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what will we choose? Because this comes down
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to a choice. It comes down to a decision. It
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doesn't come down to how you feel. If we operate
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out of our feelings, we'll be blown like a West
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Texas spring wind, which can be 60 miles an hour
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with these storms we've been having. And you're
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just blown back and forth. But when you choose
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and you say, no matter what it feels like, I
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choose this. My heart says, choose the right
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thing. My head wants to go the other way because
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my head's subject to my flesh. But my heart knows
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and trusts that God is good. No matter what,
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I can with my mouth say, I forgive them. I release
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them. And I release them to God. And I take it
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another step. I bless them. And when I bless
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them, I place them under God's canopy of justice.
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God's canopy of righteousness, God's canopy of
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truth, and now He's the judge, not me. Right,
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exactly. Which means we can't come in the aftermath
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of being stolen from and badmouth them if we
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say we forgive, release, and bless. Right, exactly.
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Does that make sense? This sounds impossible,
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and in your mind and in your flesh, it is. But
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this is part of our spiritual growth. Yes. It's
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very telling about your growth. how you respond
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to things like this that happens, betrayal or
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injustice or anything like that. And I want to
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be found faithful. Yes. And yet it's hard because
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we're human and we're... We're not happy. This
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was a huge setback. Right. But I really felt
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like even today, because, you know, I had my
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day yesterday where I was just very somber. I
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didn't really, I just was somber. Your brownie
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mix day. My brownie mix. Because I was in shock.
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And today I felt like the Lord said, it's only
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money, even though it's like, it's only money.
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It's a chunk of change. It's a chunk of change.
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But you know what, at the end of the day in the
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big picture, it's not going to matter. Yeah.
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Not going to matter. Yeah. It's funny because
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I opened up the mail yesterday and there was
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a letter in there and it was from, I didn't know
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I had a 401k. I guess I just started it when
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I worked. Back in the day. Franklin Dental Care.
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And I got a thing from Vanguard saying, if you'll
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send this in, we tried to send you a check in
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2017. I was hoping it was $15 ,000. It was $99.
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But I'm like, okay, there's a 99. of the $15
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,000. Okay, God, this is a sign. I was thinking,
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because that came out of nowhere. We're talking,
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what, nine years ago, eight years ago. I'm like,
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what? I mean, that's pretty crazy. And so I was
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like, okay, God, He can get it to us somehow.
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He can get us that money. So think about what
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the enemy intends. Speaking of Joseph, what a
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great line at the end of that story. It says,
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what the enemy intended to destroy. God is used
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for good. And that's what the, you know, so the
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enemy, we come off of this weekend, we're high,
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we're, our buckets are full and overflowing.
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We're like singing the songs in our head. We're
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replaying the moments. Yeah. And then boom, we
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just get this news like out of nowhere, left
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field. I felt this, remember all weekend at the
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Caleb, I felt this darkness. Remember I told
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you, and I talked about it with the Currys because
00:27:03.910 --> 00:27:07.940
they went with us, this heaviness. And I, I wasn't
00:27:07.940 --> 00:27:10.960
sure. I just had a lot of things inside that
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:12.980
have been hanging over us, mainly our kitchen.
00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:19.339
It is still not done, still not done. And I think
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subconsciously it was worrying whether this is
00:27:22.539 --> 00:27:26.220
because they credited the monies back to the
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Citibank card, but they hadn't given a letter
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:33.960
saying it was complete. And then now. One day
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:36.940
from the deadline. Wow. One day. One day from
00:27:36.940 --> 00:27:38.960
the deadline. It's been, what, six months? Six
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:41.579
months. We get the bad news. Now, we can take
00:27:41.579 --> 00:27:44.720
that and go cry. You had your cry yesterday.
00:27:44.940 --> 00:27:47.680
I didn't cry, but I almost did. Like I said,
00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:53.160
I think I was in shock. Or we can say, not today,
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:56.910
Satan. Yeah. No. No, we will not give over our
00:27:56.910 --> 00:27:59.089
joy to that. Right. Just like I wouldn't give
00:27:59.089 --> 00:28:01.210
my joy over to that guy who wrote that stupid
00:28:01.210 --> 00:28:03.529
comment. Yeah. I'm not going to give my joy over
00:28:03.529 --> 00:28:05.250
that. I mean, he's the guy who makes all of us
00:28:05.250 --> 00:28:06.890
look bad. You know what I mean? Right. I'm not
00:28:06.890 --> 00:28:09.410
going to give away my heart to that. Right. And
00:28:09.410 --> 00:28:11.930
make room for that in my mind or my heart or
00:28:11.930 --> 00:28:14.990
my head. And so how, okay, so we've talked about
00:28:14.990 --> 00:28:18.609
this. Let's talk about this practical. So what's
00:28:18.609 --> 00:28:21.509
our go -to? How do we, when you get news like
00:28:21.509 --> 00:28:23.809
that and you're reeling from it because you're
00:28:23.809 --> 00:28:26.069
trying to process it all because it was just
00:28:26.069 --> 00:28:28.609
wrong at the end of the day, how do we turn the
00:28:28.609 --> 00:28:32.329
corner to find that victory? I went to the Word.
00:28:32.490 --> 00:28:34.710
I went to the Word of God. Now, I didn't just
00:28:34.710 --> 00:28:37.369
go get my Bible out and start looking. I just
00:28:37.369 --> 00:28:39.950
began to remember scriptures in my head. And
00:28:39.950 --> 00:28:43.059
the biggest one was... Forgiveness. Well, and
00:28:43.059 --> 00:28:44.539
one of the things I do. I don't want to be in
00:28:44.539 --> 00:28:46.319
a prison of my own making. Right. One of the
00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:49.000
things I do is I go back to where God's been
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:52.480
faithful in the past. Yes. Because we have history
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:56.380
with God. If you've never had history, you can't
00:28:56.380 --> 00:28:59.779
go back. And some people have to start. But we've
00:28:59.779 --> 00:29:02.660
had history in God where he's restored when we've
00:29:02.660 --> 00:29:05.740
lost. And he's restored everything. And I just,
00:29:05.779 --> 00:29:08.759
I have to go, God, you did it before. Yeah. I
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:11.400
know you'll do it again. Very good. The founding,
00:29:11.460 --> 00:29:14.019
the building block or the foundation of faith
00:29:14.019 --> 00:29:16.180
is trust. Yeah. And that's what you're saying.
00:29:16.259 --> 00:29:18.920
He's trustworthy. He's trustworthy. If he's worthy
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.660
of our trust, then he should be worthy of our
00:29:21.660 --> 00:29:24.059
trust when things don't look good. Right. And
00:29:24.059 --> 00:29:25.640
that means when you get the bad news. Because
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:27.579
he's good all the time. He's not only good when
00:29:27.579 --> 00:29:30.079
we want it, when we, when he's good to us or
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:32.720
when, when things are going well, he's good.
00:29:33.130 --> 00:29:35.289
All the time. It's easy to be, oh, yeah, yay,
00:29:35.390 --> 00:29:37.849
God, when things are going well. But when the
00:29:37.849 --> 00:29:40.490
bottom drops out and you wake up the next day
00:29:40.490 --> 00:29:42.150
like we did this morning, we went on our walk
00:29:42.150 --> 00:29:44.410
this morning, and I said, I choose to forgive.
00:29:44.690 --> 00:29:47.680
And I said, I choose. I didn't say I feel like
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:50.380
forgiving them. I said I'm making a choice to
00:29:50.380 --> 00:29:51.599
forgive. And I don't know if it's the cabinet.
00:29:51.619 --> 00:29:53.960
People were at Citibank. I think it's Citibank.
00:29:54.019 --> 00:29:56.279
I don't think the cabinet people ever responded
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:58.940
because Citibank said last week and never heard
00:29:58.940 --> 00:29:59.420
from them. So we don't even know who to be mad
00:29:59.420 --> 00:30:00.759
at, right? Yeah, exactly. If we wanted to be
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:01.599
mad, we don't even know who to be mad at. I think
00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:04.339
I'm mad at the Visa company. I'm mad at the devil.
00:30:04.660 --> 00:30:06.220
Well, yeah, I'm mad at the devil, too. In the
00:30:06.220 --> 00:30:08.329
words of Striper and one of their... Best Songs
00:30:08.329 --> 00:30:10.710
Ever to Hell with the Devil. Oh, my gosh. That's
00:30:10.710 --> 00:30:12.309
the name of the song. Wow. It's the name of the
00:30:12.309 --> 00:30:14.930
album, too. It is. So, yeah, check it out. Probably
00:30:14.930 --> 00:30:18.670
from 1989. But anyway, back in the day. You should
00:30:18.670 --> 00:30:21.289
play a little clip of it. Oh, my gosh. Well,
00:30:21.450 --> 00:30:23.690
yeah. You could. I maybe have it on a ringtone,
00:30:23.789 --> 00:30:26.970
probably. It probably is. Anyway, so I want to
00:30:26.970 --> 00:30:30.009
end the show today, our podcast, talking about
00:30:30.009 --> 00:30:32.730
what do you do? So you turn to things like your
00:30:32.730 --> 00:30:35.069
history in God. That's a great one there. I love
00:30:35.069 --> 00:30:36.829
that. I remember when we heard that years ago.
00:30:37.289 --> 00:30:40.289
where we have to understand if God brought me
00:30:40.289 --> 00:30:43.049
this far, he's not brought me this far to abandon
00:30:43.049 --> 00:30:45.269
me or to let me fall. Well, our first history
00:30:45.269 --> 00:30:47.529
of God is when we got saved. Oh, yeah, totally.
00:30:47.609 --> 00:30:50.190
That's it. So, I mean, you can't say I don't
00:30:50.190 --> 00:30:52.089
have a history with God. And if nothing else
00:30:52.089 --> 00:30:54.410
happened, the fact that I'm going to heaven instead
00:30:54.410 --> 00:30:57.170
of hell, that should be enough. That is an indication.
00:30:57.390 --> 00:30:59.839
Man. God's work. You can bank on that. Yeah,
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:02.299
exactly. Maybe we've got to put up with some
00:31:02.299 --> 00:31:04.779
stuff in the in -between, living here in this
00:31:04.779 --> 00:31:07.819
fallen world, down world as we call it. But at
00:31:07.819 --> 00:31:10.440
the end of the day, He's good. He's faithful.
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:12.680
So the faithfulness of God, the trustworthiness
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:16.019
of God, the goodness of God, then that's something
00:31:16.019 --> 00:31:18.740
you've got to decide before the bottom drops
00:31:18.740 --> 00:31:21.880
out or before you get the news, the news that
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:25.289
we got or anything in your life. Because stuff
00:31:25.289 --> 00:31:27.829
happens in this world, and it's not always fair,
00:31:27.910 --> 00:31:30.150
and it doesn't always add up. And if you've already
00:31:30.150 --> 00:31:33.130
decided God's good, you've already decided, I
00:31:33.130 --> 00:31:35.170
refuse. I love what Michael W. Smith said a number
00:31:35.170 --> 00:31:36.910
of years ago in one of the documentaries we saw.
00:31:37.009 --> 00:31:39.269
He said one of the things, one of his number
00:31:39.269 --> 00:31:43.069
one things is, I refuse to ever be offended again
00:31:43.069 --> 00:31:47.049
in my life. I refuse to be offended. I will be
00:31:47.049 --> 00:31:49.230
unoffendable. Right. I don't know if you remember
00:31:49.230 --> 00:31:51.829
that. I do. I will never forget it. I refuse.
00:31:51.930 --> 00:31:53.289
I will never be offended again. Because we can
00:31:53.289 --> 00:31:55.759
receive that. offense, but we can do something
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:57.880
with it. And that is just to throw it out and
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:00.819
not allow us, we don't live and dwell in it.
00:32:00.940 --> 00:32:03.079
Not carry it. And this is an offense to us to
00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:06.299
be ripped off. So we have a choice. Do we carry
00:32:06.299 --> 00:32:08.559
it or do we reject it and drop those seeds to
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:10.900
the ground and say, no way, not today, Satan.
00:32:11.019 --> 00:32:14.339
Yeah, that's good. That's real. That's victorious
00:32:14.339 --> 00:32:16.960
living. That's living up in a down world. That's
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:19.559
living as though you're blessed instead of cursed.
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:24.430
I'm happy. Yeah. Are you happy? I'm hungry right
00:32:24.430 --> 00:32:27.210
now. You're hungry. I'll be happy when I get
00:32:27.210 --> 00:32:28.349
some food in my belly. We do have some people
00:32:28.349 --> 00:32:30.950
to thank. Yes. Steve Wise. What a wonderful night.
00:32:31.170 --> 00:32:32.710
You've got to share this. We went to dinner last
00:32:32.710 --> 00:32:35.809
night with one of our listeners. He and his wife,
00:32:35.970 --> 00:32:39.690
Steve and Stephanie Wise, came in town, asked
00:32:39.690 --> 00:32:42.630
us and the Currys to pick our favorite steak
00:32:42.630 --> 00:32:44.589
place or barbecue place. Our favorite barbecue
00:32:44.589 --> 00:32:47.069
place was not having barbecue last night, so
00:32:47.069 --> 00:32:50.599
we chose a steak place. And he blessed us. They
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.039
blessed us with a wonderful meal. And we got
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:55.759
to hear their story and who they are. And he
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:59.119
does technical for Lyle Lovett. Well, what he
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:03.230
is, he's the front line sound guy. For Lyle Lovett.
00:33:03.269 --> 00:33:05.609
It has been for years. In fact, when we asked
00:33:05.609 --> 00:33:07.630
him, what do you do? Because we were just meeting
00:33:07.630 --> 00:33:10.150
him for the first time. But they've been a faithful
00:33:10.150 --> 00:33:13.190
giver. Thank you, Steve. I didn't put it together
00:33:13.190 --> 00:33:16.529
last night until you drove off and I went, that's
00:33:16.529 --> 00:33:18.950
Steve Wise. He's the one who's been giving to
00:33:18.950 --> 00:33:21.869
us monthly. And we want to thank you for that,
00:33:21.910 --> 00:33:23.789
especially right now. Thank you for the 60 -ounce
00:33:23.789 --> 00:33:25.789
ribeye last night, too. That was amazing. But
00:33:25.789 --> 00:33:29.450
when we asked him what he did and he said he
00:33:29.450 --> 00:33:32.440
worked technical for Lyle Lovett, I was expecting
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:35.799
him to laugh like it was a joke. But it was true.
00:33:35.940 --> 00:33:37.559
That's what he does for a living. That's why
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:39.559
they're in Texas. I was like, oh. They live in
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:42.140
Las Vegas. They're visiting Texas. But it took
00:33:42.140 --> 00:33:44.079
a little time for vacation to come over and hang
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:46.460
out with us and the Currys. But also, they've
00:33:46.460 --> 00:33:49.079
got a show coming up with Lyle. With Lyle Lovett
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:52.180
in Tomball. Starting a new tour in Tomball. And
00:33:52.180 --> 00:33:55.259
then she works for Cirque du Soleil. How do you
00:33:55.259 --> 00:34:01.160
say that? Circus. Yeah. Did I say it right? Oh,
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:02.519
okay. It is French. It is French, and I'm from
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:04.599
West Texas, so that won't happen. And she's worked
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:08.699
for them for 23 years, she said. She's a technical
00:34:08.699 --> 00:34:11.349
director for them. It was a delight. to meet
00:34:11.349 --> 00:34:14.570
them and get to spend time. I wish we would have
00:34:14.570 --> 00:34:17.269
connected who they were while we were sitting
00:34:17.269 --> 00:34:20.250
there instead of when they drove off because
00:34:20.250 --> 00:34:22.550
it didn't, I knew you had talked to him through
00:34:22.550 --> 00:34:25.690
email, but we, I didn't connect that they're
00:34:25.690 --> 00:34:29.150
the ones who've been faithful listeners and givers
00:34:29.150 --> 00:34:32.690
and Steve, Stephanie, thank you. If you're listening
00:34:32.690 --> 00:34:34.789
to this, which I hope you are, I know you are.
00:34:35.010 --> 00:34:37.769
Um, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That dinner
00:34:37.769 --> 00:34:40.500
was next time you come in. It's our time to buy.
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.079
It's our treat next time. So, but thank you.
00:34:43.099 --> 00:34:45.579
It was a blessing. It was such a blessing. Who
00:34:45.579 --> 00:34:47.800
else? James Barron. He's a, he's a regular giver.
00:34:47.860 --> 00:34:50.679
Adam Curry. I saw he boosted us again. I mean,
00:34:50.699 --> 00:34:54.199
Adam Curry's a regular giver and just our best
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:57.039
friend ever. Yes. And that's who we went to Caleb
00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:59.019
with. And we're going to Florida with them in
00:34:59.019 --> 00:35:00.820
July. We travel with our besties. Yeah. You know,
00:35:00.820 --> 00:35:03.260
there's, it's, travel's not always easy with
00:35:03.260 --> 00:35:06.289
everybody. We've had one of those trips. Well,
00:35:06.309 --> 00:35:09.050
we've decided that the K -Love trip is just us
00:35:09.050 --> 00:35:11.829
four and no more. We are not inviting other people.
00:35:11.949 --> 00:35:14.789
That is a special time. It's so hard to corral
00:35:14.789 --> 00:35:16.929
a lot of people. It's hard to get six people
00:35:16.929 --> 00:35:19.929
to sit at a table anywhere. And so that's kind
00:35:19.929 --> 00:35:25.170
of our secret vacation, yearly vacation. We all
00:35:25.170 --> 00:35:29.409
signed up again. It's just beautiful. I highly
00:35:29.409 --> 00:35:31.289
recommend you watching the awards tomorrow night.
00:35:31.289 --> 00:35:33.769
So here's my question for you. Yes. Audio or
00:35:33.769 --> 00:35:36.349
video? Well, I like audio because you know me,
00:35:36.409 --> 00:35:39.329
I don't like pictures of myself and videos. Kind
00:35:39.329 --> 00:35:41.349
of leaning towards audio with this and then video
00:35:41.349 --> 00:35:43.250
with the interview. I think that's the way it
00:35:43.250 --> 00:35:45.650
should go because I feel more comfortable when
00:35:45.650 --> 00:35:48.469
I'm not worried about the camera. And when we're
00:35:48.469 --> 00:35:50.949
off in July, we can take one of the rigs home
00:35:50.949 --> 00:35:52.730
and we can do it at the house. Yeah, we'll be
00:35:52.730 --> 00:35:54.949
taking the whole month off in July again. We
00:35:54.949 --> 00:35:56.929
do that every year. Every year. It's our rest
00:35:56.929 --> 00:35:59.730
time. That way we can keep up. I don't like missing.
00:36:00.010 --> 00:36:02.869
Yeah. I feel like we're... Not that we're letting
00:36:02.869 --> 00:36:04.929
people down, but we're not building people up
00:36:04.929 --> 00:36:06.949
that we could. Does that make sense? Yeah. We'll
00:36:06.949 --> 00:36:08.190
try to be more consistent. We're going to be
00:36:08.190 --> 00:36:10.030
more consistent. And I think we can do that on
00:36:10.030 --> 00:36:11.969
the audio side a lot easier. And we're trying
00:36:11.969 --> 00:36:13.849
to keep it to a minimum because we recognize
00:36:13.849 --> 00:36:16.590
your time is valuable. Which, by the way, our
00:36:16.590 --> 00:36:18.949
time's up. Oh, and we want to be, we want to
00:36:18.949 --> 00:36:20.969
value you. I was letting you rock. You're rocking
00:36:20.969 --> 00:36:22.789
and rolling today. Thank you for sharing today.
00:36:22.829 --> 00:36:24.929
You shared some amazing things. It was great.
00:36:24.969 --> 00:36:26.809
And it's just good being on the mic with you
00:36:26.809 --> 00:36:29.929
again and, and reminiscing about an amazing weekend
00:36:29.929 --> 00:36:31.989
where we were very blessed. Very, very blessed.
00:36:32.210 --> 00:36:33.909
So yeah. So Faith, if you'll go ahead and hit
00:36:33.909 --> 00:36:37.980
our outro there. There it is. Well, again, we
00:36:37.980 --> 00:36:40.980
want to thank you for joining us. Episode 100.
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:43.880
100. Big Mark. Milestone. Living up in a down
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:46.940
world. We want you to have an amazing day. Yes.
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:47.699
On purpose.