"The Six Million Dollar Man?"

100:00:00,000 --> 00:00:27,360This is Jimmy and Annette and we are Living Up in a Down World.200:00:27,360 --> 00:00:32,960We are at episode number 35. We want to welcome you to the show today and Mr.300:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,160Chevy is sitting here looking at me. Are you petting him or something? He's got a400:00:37,160 --> 00:00:44,520look on his face like I am so comfortable right now. Of course he's in500:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,000your lap as usual. He usually lays down and he's sitting up like he's commanding attention.600:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,000He can barely keep his eyes open. Are you gonna like fall asleep sitting up?700:00:53,000 --> 00:00:59,880He's really being strange. He is a mellow. Mr. mellow. He's a good boy.800:00:59,880 --> 00:01:05,800He's okay. Well Mr. Chevy says hi to everybody. I know what's wrong.900:01:05,800 --> 00:01:11,000It's an off day. He's confused. Yesterday we started to do the show.1000:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,800He was in our lap. I wasn't feeling it yet. You weren't feeling it. Hey we all have days.1100:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,840I just had a day and I needed... You weren't living up in a down world.1200:01:20,840 --> 00:01:26,120You were just living in a down world. I was just living. He's just like,1300:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,880wait are y'all gonna do what he did yesterday? He's confused. He's really confused.1400:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,600Yesterday when we got the chair... The way this works y'all is that I set up1500:01:34,600 --> 00:01:40,240my little studio. I'm trying to call it a studio because it's my study and my studio.1600:01:40,240 --> 00:01:45,640My studio, not that I'm a stud or anything, but my studio.1700:01:45,640 --> 00:01:52,120Oh my gosh. When I start setting it up and getting ready for the show,1800:01:52,120 --> 00:01:57,560he just loses his mind. He gets so excited because he knows it's time for him to jump up in your chair.1900:01:57,560 --> 00:02:02,440You go get my chair. I'll bring a chair in here. He goes nuts.2000:02:02,440 --> 00:02:08,040I know. It's hilarious. Right now he's just like, oh I'm in my happy place even though it's a day off.2100:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,240Now he did lay down. He's like, okay they're gonna do it this time.2200:02:11,240 --> 00:02:16,600Yeah, yeah. It's for real. We want to welcome you to today's podcast and we're excited.2300:02:16,600 --> 00:02:21,640We really are living up in a down world even though the world can be down sometimes. It can be difficult.2400:02:22,280 --> 00:02:29,720We had quite a re-entry into real life from being two months of a... I'm going to use a word that2500:02:29,720 --> 00:02:35,960maybe not everybody likes, but we had a magical, a magical sabbatical.2600:02:35,960 --> 00:02:42,520It was extremely peaceful even though we had some drama with things that happened.2700:02:42,520 --> 00:02:49,800Right, right. Normal stuff, but as it progressed it became even more peaceful. It was amazing.2800:02:49,800 --> 00:02:55,400I wasn't ready to go back to work. I was made to go back to work. I went back to work and we...2900:02:55,960 --> 00:03:02,200Oh my goodness. Okay, do you remember the opening scene from the show, The Six Million Dollar Man?3000:03:02,200 --> 00:03:07,080Okay, you may not remember. You're really aging yourself. I know, I'm totally aging myself.3100:03:07,080 --> 00:03:12,680It's a handful of people that go, oh I remember that. So Six Million Dollar Man, Lee Majors.3200:03:12,680 --> 00:03:19,160Okay, it's been too long. Hello. But the opening scene where he crashes this vehicle or the ship3300:03:19,160 --> 00:03:24,360or this space thing. I don't even remember. He was like a land speed car or something and it's like3400:03:24,360 --> 00:03:31,560this... it's real footage from an actual crash and then he so shreds his body they have to put3500:03:31,560 --> 00:03:36,200him all back together and he's like half robot. That's me right now. That's the Six Million Dollar3600:03:36,200 --> 00:03:42,360Man. In today's economy he'd be the Six Billion Dollar Man. Exactly. But anyway, that's kind of3700:03:42,360 --> 00:03:48,840what our re-entry felt like. Yeah. I mean it's like, whoa we're back and it was... yeah, it was3800:03:48,840 --> 00:03:56,280intense. Yeah, to say the least. I don't even know what to say honestly. Right. Well, I'm going to3900:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,040talk a little bit... today's topic for those of you that are interested in this, we're going to4000:04:00,040 --> 00:04:06,440talk about spiritual warfare. For sure. And the fact that we... We can define it hugely. Oh my gosh.4100:04:06,440 --> 00:04:13,720I mean it's happening right in this. But I had a... not that I expected it, but I had my antennas up4200:04:14,440 --> 00:04:20,280thinking that when we come out of this bliss, this season of this is so amazing being with God4300:04:20,280 --> 00:04:25,640every day, no distractions. I want to go back there. I asked for one next year too. We'll see if that4400:04:25,640 --> 00:04:31,480gets any room. You know, we came back so strong y'all. Love you. What happened? But then if this4500:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,800is what happens every time we go on one... I know. I don't ever want to go on another one. Well, I mean4600:04:35,800 --> 00:04:41,160it's like when someone takes a vacation, right? So they take a week or two and most people when4700:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,000they're working, they take a vacation and in their mind they're thinking, I know what's going to4800:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,600happen when I get back to the job. You know, there's going to be stuff piled up. There's going to be4900:04:48,600 --> 00:04:53,480things that got left undone. There's going to be things waiting. So we all kind of live with that.5000:04:53,480 --> 00:05:01,560That's just normal flow of life. But imagine being gone for two months and then stepping back into5100:05:01,560 --> 00:05:08,360your job. And you hear all these things that happen starting the day after we left. I mean, unbelievable.5200:05:08,360 --> 00:05:14,840And they're normal churchy stuff. That's true. Yeah. People stuff. That's true. But it all happened5300:05:14,840 --> 00:05:19,240in two months. It all happened at once. It all happened right when we left so that when we got back,5400:05:19,240 --> 00:05:24,120we were, it reminded me of when you tried to homeschool our youngest faith. Oh, don't even5500:05:24,120 --> 00:05:30,360remind me. No, no, this is what happened. So Annette was going to homeschool Faith because we were5600:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,040in this transitional time. I used to be a teacher. No big deal. You're a teacher. You know what to do,5700:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,840but Faith was not having it. She needed structure and I thought, oh, this will be great. Oh, she's5800:05:38,840 --> 00:05:43,080going to love this. Kind of got some freedom. She could sleep in. That way she can be more fresh.5900:05:43,080 --> 00:05:50,040Pressure. No social pressure. She hated it. She did not do well. She said, I never want to ever do that again.6000:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,920Take me to school. Well, the thing I remember is there were times when I had to go places or be6100:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,920gone and then I would come back and it would literally be like you meet me at the door with her6200:05:59,640 --> 00:06:05,880and basically say, she's yours. She's yours. I mean, you were done. We would have yelling matches.6300:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,160And I'm like, what happened while I was gone? What is wrong with you?6400:06:09,160 --> 00:06:17,320She, we didn't understand her personality and how much she needed structure, which she works for us.6500:06:17,320 --> 00:06:23,880She needs structure in her job. That's why we moved her into position with Pastor Russ. Russ6600:06:23,880 --> 00:06:30,600loves structure. So he set it up perfectly for her. Our executive pastor. Yes. And so I'm telling you6700:06:31,480 --> 00:06:37,240we now know what to do, but I will. Yeah. But what I'm saying is that's what it felt like coming back6800:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,880from sabbaticals. Like everybody met us at the door and said, excuse me, can I throw up on you6900:06:41,880 --> 00:06:48,680right now? Cause I've had a hard time. And oh my gosh, it was rough. I mean, like, whoa, wow.7000:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,760This all happened while we were gone and very little of it had to do with us directly. This7100:06:54,760 --> 00:07:01,000was more like just people stuff, sheep life, church life. But then it continued last week.7200:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,080Yeah. We thought, okay, maybe we got through this. No, I get an email today and I'm just like,7300:07:05,080 --> 00:07:10,040stuff all weekend. Oh my gosh, is this ever going to stop? It's like, okay people, let's take a time7400:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,640out. But we recognize it. We know where it's coming from. We know exactly where it's coming from. We7500:07:13,640 --> 00:07:19,560know who the real enemy is. Well, and our son told us to prepare for this. That's right. So we had7600:07:19,560 --> 00:07:24,680talked about Pastor Chris, our son. It's funny to call him Pastor Chris. Pastor Chris, our son. He7700:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,640took his sabbatical. He took his sabbatical like just a few weeks before we did. So there's a little7800:07:29,640 --> 00:07:35,880overlay. He spent a little time with us. We talked about it on a few shows ago and a great, great time.7900:07:35,880 --> 00:07:43,640But when he got back, I mean, all, all. And I'm like, oh, I'm so sorry that won't happen to us.8000:07:43,640 --> 00:07:49,320Oh, it was rough. We were thinking, man, that I feel we felt bad for him. We felt sorry for him.8100:07:49,320 --> 00:07:54,600Like, oh, that's a terrible way to return and have all this drama. But not everybody should experience8200:07:54,600 --> 00:08:03,560that. So no, it's not going to happen. We're not going to experience that. Our team is capable. And they are. And they absolutely are. And they handled things. And they did. But we had to8300:08:03,560 --> 00:08:10,920hear about the things they handled. It's like what? Oh my goodness. They did what? You know, it was like, wow.8400:08:11,480 --> 00:08:18,920So we're sort of in this weird recovery mode. Here's what I, and I told our team, we had a great8500:08:18,920 --> 00:08:27,800staff meeting today and I had to just be real. And I just said, Annette and I are fighting. We're having to contend for our peace.8600:08:28,520 --> 00:08:39,800Because we believe that the enemy is trying to steal, kill and destroy, John 10 10, what we accomplished and what God did in us through our sabbatical.8700:08:39,800 --> 00:08:46,600I waited 38 years to have this sabbatical. Finally get it. And it's literally everything I dreamed it would be and more.8800:08:46,600 --> 00:08:58,040And sure enough, the moment we're off, it's like, it's like all hell breaks loose. And we're like, whoa. So we've had to sort of be in this recovery mode,8900:08:58,840 --> 00:09:09,320triage mode, fix things, talk to people, set up meetings, console our staff and just walk through some stuff, some hard stuff.9000:09:09,320 --> 00:09:17,240And but it was very clear to me as this was unfolding, what was going on. I knew the source immediately.9100:09:17,240 --> 00:09:26,280I knew the source. It wasn't the sheep that are acting up. It wasn't people getting offended for whatever reason people get offended for in life.9200:09:26,280 --> 00:09:34,280They're not the enemy. No, they're actually pawns in a much bigger game. And so let's talk a little bit more about that.9300:09:34,280 --> 00:09:43,400I think you're going to need to do a series on spiritual warfare. No kidding. Well, we'll talk a little bit about it today and just because everybody is in it, whether they know it or not.9400:09:43,400 --> 00:09:51,080I'll read a little. Most people just get offended with other people. True. Not realizing who the real enemy is.9500:09:51,080 --> 00:10:01,480That's exactly right. That's why when you when you make this commitment, which I have done, and that is I give up my right to be offended, then there will be ample opportunity to be offended.9600:10:01,480 --> 00:10:06,440That's how that works. And yet it's not like God's. It's like praying for patience.9700:10:06,440 --> 00:10:12,040It's real life. Yes, you're going to have to have something to be. I don't even think it's God doing it. I think it's just life.9800:10:12,040 --> 00:10:21,480But it is life. It is. And so you are going to get what you pray for. Yeah. But the thing we have to realize and for you listening today, there is a real enemy out there who wants to destroy you.9900:10:21,480 --> 00:10:39,640John chapter 10 verse 10 says the key the thief comes only except to steal, kill and destroy. Fortunately, the verse doesn't end there because Jesus turned right around and flips the script on it and says, but I came that you might have life and life more abundantly or life to the full.10000:10:39,640 --> 00:10:48,680And that's that's the the interplay that we live in and the tension we live in in this world. There there are forces at work.10100:10:48,680 --> 00:11:00,600I'm going to read an excerpt, really, really unique excerpt. It's from I mean, this is from like it's called a book called The Apocalypse by Albrecht Dürer.10200:11:00,600 --> 00:11:07,960And it's St. Michael fighting the dragon, which is a beautiful painting picture from hundreds of years ago.10300:11:07,960 --> 00:11:23,280And it shows the saint in the middle of all these demons and whatnot. And the title of the of the of the post that I got this from is called Wading Through Angels.10400:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,360And it talks about this idea that that we are not on our own.10500:11:27,360 --> 00:11:37,800I mean, there is more going on all around us in an unseen realm, a different dimension, so to speak, of angels, but also of demons.10600:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,760You know, they're fallen angels. And all of this is happening around us.10700:11:41,760 --> 00:11:49,800And I love the way this this this person wrote this in terms of we are literally wading through angels.10800:11:49,800 --> 00:11:57,800I mean, as we go, it makes me want to say, excuse me, excuse me, because I'm walking on. Sorry, that was your toe or that was your wing. I'm bad. I feel bad.10900:11:57,800 --> 00:12:05,120But, you know, we're wading through angel. In other words, he's just saying you have to understand how thick the atmosphere is with warfare,11000:12:05,120 --> 00:12:10,240how thick the atmosphere is with activity that is otherworldly.11100:12:10,240 --> 00:12:18,480And yet we are we are citizens of another world, of another kingdom, as followers of Jesus, who are born again and born of the Spirit.11200:12:18,480 --> 00:12:24,960And so I just I've never heard that terminology wading through angels really gripped me.11300:12:24,960 --> 00:12:29,920I shared it on Sunday during the message, and there was an audible gasp from people.11400:12:29,920 --> 00:12:37,960They'd never thought of it in those terms that the atmosphere is thick, thick with action.11500:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,320This world is not static. There's things happening all around us.11600:12:41,320 --> 00:12:55,360And so, anyway, it's really powerful. And that's something that I love the way this person says one of the most one of the dangerous assumptions we modern Christians often make is that we are more advanced than believers who lived before us.11700:12:55,360 --> 00:13:00,440And to be sure, we have advanced beyond them if we're talking about technology, health care and the like.11800:13:00,440 --> 00:13:05,480Exactly. But in other ways, in more substantial ways, we have regressed.11900:13:05,480 --> 00:13:17,120We suffer from living solely by sight. Ours is a visual world full of facts, things, empirical evidence, stuff we can count and measure and touch.12000:13:17,120 --> 00:13:23,760But our fathers and mothers in the faith who have gone before us were more keenly aware of this fact.12100:13:23,760 --> 00:13:28,000All around us are realities beyond our visual capacity.12200:13:28,000 --> 00:13:37,720Demons waiting to ensnare and woo us into false belief and despair and vice, angels guarding and directing and serving us.12300:13:37,720 --> 00:13:42,040We wade through spirits as we go about our daily tasks.12400:13:42,040 --> 00:13:48,560As the poet Francis Thompson says, we disturb an angel's wing every time we turn a stone.12500:13:48,560 --> 00:13:54,800A whole world unseen stands and flies all around us.12600:13:54,800 --> 00:14:00,120I mean, that is so graphic. That's from Chad Bird, who's a great theologian and just a great writer.12700:14:00,120 --> 00:14:04,480And he's this phenomenal guy. I really enjoyed reading some of his stuff.12800:14:04,480 --> 00:14:09,800But that idea that there is so much going on around us.12900:14:09,800 --> 00:14:19,760That's it's mind boggling to think about that and that there's something bigger out there than what you're just seeing right here.13000:14:19,760 --> 00:14:25,200It's easy to ignore because we get busy and distracted and we're not thinking about, you know,13100:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,560the scripture says in Matthew 6 33, seek first the kingdom of God.13200:14:29,560 --> 00:14:37,960We're not seeking the kingdom. We're busy and we're distracted and we got things to do and deadlines and people to meet with and fires to put out.13300:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,840We're so busy that we forget. But I heard someone say this recently.13400:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,080I'm trying to think who it was. Oh, it was Pastor Bill Johnson.13500:14:46,080 --> 00:14:54,640He said that during the day, you need to stop and just speak out loud to the Lord and say, Father, I reset my affection upon you.13600:14:54,640 --> 00:14:59,760I turn my affection to you. I've been I've added that as a practice into my daily life.13700:14:59,760 --> 00:15:08,040Part of practicing this presence where I'm finding myself when I get stressed or or I get news like we did all last week and even today.13800:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,040Some, you know, you just pause.13900:15:12,040 --> 00:15:19,200Sometimes I excuse myself like I did. I'll be back in a second. I walked down the hall and as I walk down the hall.14000:15:19,200 --> 00:15:24,120Well, I did have to go to the bathroom to you, but as part of that, I was multitasking, right?14100:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,840There you go. Spiritual multitasking.14200:15:26,840 --> 00:15:33,960So but what I did is as I was alone, I said, Father, I reset my affection upon you.14300:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,640You're all that matters. I seek first the kingdom of God and your righteousness.14400:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,400And I know that everything else will be brought into order according to your plan.14500:15:42,400 --> 00:15:50,320And so you have to you have to become active and engaging and resetting your affection.14600:15:50,320 --> 00:15:55,960And that right there is a lot of the battle is realizing, OK, there's more going on here.14700:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,840I need to get my my eyes back on Jesus.14800:15:58,840 --> 00:16:04,960The scripture in Colossians three says that we're to set our minds on things above and not on things on the earth.14900:16:04,960 --> 00:16:12,520Speaking of that, because this happened last week and as soon as we left work last Tuesday,15000:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,760we were just kind of distraught because that was our first day back.15100:16:15,760 --> 00:16:22,080Monday was a holiday. Went back Tuesday, got all the news from everything that's happened.15200:16:22,080 --> 00:16:28,400And it was just overwhelming. We decided to go to the gym.15300:16:28,400 --> 00:16:33,880Yes. And we said we need to go throw some weights.15400:16:33,880 --> 00:16:41,080That's right. And we had heard another I don't know, it was a podcaster or somebody that said,15500:16:41,080 --> 00:16:47,200you know, when you get stressed, I could think it was a doctor said or you have some stressful news.15600:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,800Start doing jumping jacks, do push ups, do something.15700:16:50,800 --> 00:16:59,440Well, you and I, because we're gym rats, we drove from Fredericksburg all the way to Bernie to go to the gym.15800:16:59,440 --> 00:17:08,640And I turned on a sermon that I just kind of was randomly looking for something on YouTube from Robert Morris,15900:17:08,640 --> 00:17:14,960which I always do. And there was one on He's My Refuge. Remember this?16000:17:14,960 --> 00:17:24,120Yes. As I was listening to it, he was talking about when we're going through times like this, what are you going to do?16100:17:24,120 --> 00:17:27,400Are you going to go to God who says, I am your refuge?16200:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,720So he said, what do you run to as your refuge?16300:17:30,720 --> 00:17:40,880And some people, alcohol, some people, drugs, some people, what would you say is another?16400:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,960Pornography. Pornography. Some kind of vice.16500:17:43,960 --> 00:17:53,680Shopping, power shopping. Yes. And he said, we've got to as Christians, turn that around and go straight to God because he is the only one.16600:17:53,680 --> 00:17:59,760And I remember listening to that going, this is what I'm doing. Oh, he mentioned exercise too.16700:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,800But I thought, no, exercise is good as long as I'm listening to the Word of God.16800:18:03,800 --> 00:18:14,160Not that it's not if you don't. But at this point, when I needed God as my refuge, because I was so down,16900:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,240I was overwhelmed that even our staff had to deal with things. It wasn't about us.17000:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,960We love them. This is hard on them.17100:18:20,960 --> 00:18:25,920I hate that they had to go through things. They were living down in a down world.17200:18:25,920 --> 00:18:36,440I mean, they were really having to navigate. They didn't have us to bounce it off of and to help and to alleviate the pain from things.17300:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,320They had to deal with things themselves, which is good. Which is good on one hand.17400:18:39,320 --> 00:18:44,080It is. But it was hard for us to hear. It caused them to rise up, which is actually a good thing.17500:18:44,080 --> 00:18:50,440But I'm listening to him, to Pastor Robert, and he's saying, you know, do these things.17600:18:50,440 --> 00:18:55,320And I thought, I actually patted myself on the back and said, you know what? I didn't turn to alcohol.17700:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,720Right. I didn't turn to advice.17800:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,320One of the things we used to do is just veg and the TV. Oh, yeah.17900:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,240Just something that's just mindless. We didn't do that. We went straight to God.18000:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,840Because you turned our TV off. Well, I did. I got rid of cable.18100:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,960Which was a great decision back in February. Exactly. And now we're happy.18200:19:11,960 --> 00:19:19,960Oh, so glad. So to me, it was really a timely word that it just happened to come up on my YouTube.18300:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,480Happened to. Yeah. When you pulled your homepage up, it just pulled up. And I saw that and I went,18400:19:24,360 --> 00:19:33,720so then this is what's so strange. I'm listening to it and it ends. And the next thing that comes18500:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,320on through my ears, because I'm not looking at it on my phone. It's just coming through.18600:19:38,360 --> 00:19:45,480YouTube was a Bill Johnson message. And he was talking about something that happened recently.18700:19:45,480 --> 00:19:50,920And then I hit the wrong button. I think I hit my phone or did something as I was working out.18800:19:50,920 --> 00:19:58,200And it went to the next message. And it was when in war, create. Wow. And I told you about it.18900:19:58,200 --> 00:20:03,960And you and I were both listening to it at the same time. In the gym. We were both going, wow.19000:20:04,760 --> 00:20:09,720This is so bad. And then we came home and turned it on TV. Or we put it on. We just threw it up,19100:20:09,720 --> 00:20:16,840cast it on the TV and watched it again. I took so many notes. Oh, copious notes. It took us almost19200:20:16,840 --> 00:20:21,160three hours to get through it because I kept stop pausing. Like a 35 minute. I've got to write this19300:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,160down. I've got to write this down. It was a long message. I think it was an hour and a half. Oh,19400:20:25,160 --> 00:20:31,560that was the long one? Okay. He was just, this pastor Bill Johnson. And that was so profound19500:20:31,560 --> 00:20:37,960and so impactful to me. It got me thinking about Adam, our friend, friends Adam and Tina. You know,19600:20:37,960 --> 00:20:45,960Curry and the keeper, no agenda, mo facts, all the stuff that, that Adam Curry is into, by the way,19700:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,120we have a bro date tomorrow night. I know fired up about that. We've been texting each other.19800:20:50,120 --> 00:20:54,200We're excited, making sure we're wearing the same clothes, you know, like a couple of girls,19900:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,960a hamburger or something. I don't know, but you'll have Mr. Chevy. Oh, okay. So anyway,20000:20:59,960 --> 00:21:05,000but I sent it to Adam because we always send stuff to each other and to encourage each other and pray20100:21:05,000 --> 00:21:12,040and stay, stay focused in this crazy world. And, and I sent that to him. He wrote back. Wow. I mean,20200:21:12,040 --> 00:21:19,080that was a mind blower. If you are interested in hearing something and that is really profound,20300:21:19,720 --> 00:21:25,800deeply profound, got to be a little bit of a brainiac to follow this one. It is so good.20400:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,480It's by pastor Bill Johnson. You can just YouTube that pastor Bill Johnson,20500:21:31,480 --> 00:21:37,000when in war create. That's the title. And what it, what it did for us, I mean, it was such a timely20600:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,800message as you're saying, we were like, yeah, it was a fluke, right? Yeah. Like there's a20700:21:41,800 --> 00:21:49,000coincidences in the kingdom. There are none. God's in control. And so the Holy Spirit needed you to20800:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,960hear that. Of course you sent it to me. I think you sent me a, we're in the, okay, we're in a big gym.20900:21:53,960 --> 00:21:58,440It's planet fitness. It's very large. So we see each other, but we're doing different things. And21000:21:58,440 --> 00:22:03,240so we're texting each other half the time. And I sent you a picture of, sent me a picture and I21100:22:03,240 --> 00:22:09,880started listening to it and I was hooked. I was like all in so encouraged. The power of,21200:22:11,560 --> 00:22:17,400what he was talking about is the power of creativity and how much we've lost and how much21300:22:17,400 --> 00:22:24,040we've lost as we age and what it's done, it's dumbed us down. And I won't go into the details.21400:22:24,040 --> 00:22:29,640You should just say, go listen to it. But it was what, but the Holy Spirit, what we're finding is21500:22:29,640 --> 00:22:35,480that even in the middle of war or feeling like we're in under attack or war with, like I said,21600:22:35,480 --> 00:22:41,160wasn't specific to us, but we were ones having to bear the weight. We were having to do triage for21700:22:41,160 --> 00:22:49,000everybody around us. In the middle of that, the Holy Spirit comes alongside. He becomes our21800:22:49,000 --> 00:22:56,360counselor, our comforter, our helper, our intercessor, our advocate, our friend, our teacher.21900:22:57,320 --> 00:23:03,880He comes alongside and he gets to us what we need in those times. And I'm at a point in my life,22000:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,680and I know you are too in it, because we talk about this all the time, is that we expect that22100:23:08,680 --> 00:23:14,600to happen now. It used to be a hope God shows up. I hope we hear from him. I hope we get a word of22200:23:14,600 --> 00:23:21,640wisdom so we'll know how to. Now we just know we will. There's a knowing and a confidence and a22300:23:21,640 --> 00:23:31,400trust that has been tried and true over decades. Well, and when you, it's not that he's never22400:23:31,400 --> 00:23:37,080talking. He's always talking. But are we listening? Do we have our antenna up? Yeah.22500:23:37,080 --> 00:23:47,800Are our ears open to hear what he wants to say to us? And he does it through many, many different22600:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,200avenues. So when someone says, well, how do you recognize the voice of God? And I said, well,22700:23:52,760 --> 00:23:58,840let me just say he doesn't ever do it the same. I mean, he can talk through anything, a picture,22800:23:58,840 --> 00:24:06,120a song, a lyric, a poem, a post on social media. Yes, God can even use social media.22900:24:06,120 --> 00:24:09,480His, the Bible. Open his word. I've got mine sitting in front of me right now, which I want23000:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,800to read some scripture, just a couple of scriptures here, talking about the spiritual warfare. He23100:24:13,800 --> 00:24:20,280speaks in so many ways. There are some people that say they hear the voice of God. I've never heard23200:24:20,280 --> 00:24:26,600like the audible. I've heard very close to, but it was really more in my mind and spirit, my mentality.23300:24:28,760 --> 00:24:34,200But some people do that. But I do hear him in my heart, so to speak. I get impressions23400:24:34,200 --> 00:24:40,440that I would think are him. And if you're having an impression that's negative, that is not from23500:24:40,440 --> 00:24:45,720God because he's never going to contradict who he is and who his character is. No. That's what23600:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,840people will say, well, I heard this. It's got to be God telling me to go do this. I'm like, no,23700:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,880especially if it's something that's going to cause harm or not be good for the person.23800:24:55,880 --> 00:25:00,600And so God is a good God. So he's never going to compromise. A good shepherd, a good father.23900:25:00,600 --> 00:25:06,200Exactly. So it's going to be a voice of a shepherd and a father, not a voice of an accuser.24000:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,960Exactly. Who's pointing their finger down your throat saying, you did this, you did that.24100:25:09,960 --> 00:25:15,000Exactly. That is not God at all. That's demonic. But again, that's how some people see God. We've24200:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,880talked about this before on the show based on how they've seen their own father. Yeah,24300:25:19,880 --> 00:25:25,320their own negative experiences and traumas. They think God is up there. Just waiting. Just waiting24400:25:25,320 --> 00:25:34,120to zap you. Waiting for us to trip up. So luckily we have enough experience behind us to recognize24500:25:34,120 --> 00:25:39,800that what we're dealing with and what our team dealt with is spiritual warfare. It's ongoing.24600:25:40,360 --> 00:25:45,720Doesn't happen apart from movement though. Oh, that's right. It's almost like Newton's third law.24700:25:45,720 --> 00:25:51,000For every action, there's an opposite and equal reaction. It's like if you stand up in the back24800:25:51,000 --> 00:25:56,920of a pickup going 60 miles an hour, there will be an equal and opposite reaction. That wind will24900:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,640hit you in the face and every bug and bird in sight. I mean, you're getting pelted and it's25000:26:01,640 --> 00:26:08,840because you're moving. You created the movement. I mean, it's so interesting how this parallels.25100:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,800But when you start moving the kingdom ball down the field, so to speak, when you're advancing25200:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,800the kingdom, you're seeing things happen. Good things are happening. God's working.25300:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,600You've got this vitality about your life. I mean, the scripture says we look to Him and our faces25400:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,880are radiant. And as you're doing that, you're creating movement and the enemy's like, I need25500:26:27,880 --> 00:26:35,000to stop that. I need to shut that down. He'll pull out all the stops. He'll do everything to resist.25600:26:35,000 --> 00:26:42,360He knows where your hot buttons are. And so he's going to do everything he can to get to you,25700:26:42,360 --> 00:26:47,320to where you falter in your faith, where you feel like I can't go on anymore.25800:26:47,320 --> 00:26:54,120So the enemy knows he can't kill you. He knows he can't, he more than likely cannot ruin your25900:26:54,120 --> 00:26:58,360relationship with God, but he will do everything he can to break your fellowship with God.26000:26:58,360 --> 00:26:59,080Exactly.26100:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,880That peace, that passes all understanding, that joy and vitality you have as a believer.26200:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,560You know, when you were young and Lord, you might have, the word of God was alive and living to you.26300:27:09,560 --> 00:27:15,400And now after getting beat down for years by the enemy, you just can barely open the book and get26400:27:15,400 --> 00:27:20,600anything out of it, or you're bored at church, or you have a difficult time worshiping. You know,26500:27:20,600 --> 00:27:26,520all of that's just road wear. That's the fog of war. And when we recognize it, we can do something26600:27:26,520 --> 00:27:32,040about it. But you do, you've got to identify that and go, wait a minute, this isn't right. This isn't,26700:27:32,760 --> 00:27:38,600this isn't how my inner child wants to be. That young person in me that found Christ,26800:27:38,600 --> 00:27:45,560found Christ was alive and playful and joyful. And now I'm, I'm a curmudgeon. I know I'm, I'm26900:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,960sour curmudgeon.27000:27:47,960 --> 00:27:48,760What is that?27100:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,600It's an unhappy person.27200:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,240Oh, I've never heard that word come out of your mouth before.27300:27:53,240 --> 00:27:53,960Let's look it up.27400:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,680Oh gosh, we can move on.27500:27:56,680 --> 00:27:57,480ChatGBT.27600:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,040Look it up.27700:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,240Oh my gosh.27800:27:59,240 --> 00:28:06,120Anyway, so yeah, I mean, you're like, yeah, you're like, you know, yeah, you're like Shrek,27900:28:06,120 --> 00:28:10,200you know, you're just, you're mean, you're angry, you're all of those things. And it's like,28000:28:10,200 --> 00:28:15,080wait a minute, that shouldn't be my nature as a child of God. Well, it's because the fog of war28100:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,320has just cluttered our life and we've got to learn to identify that. And then how do we get rid of it?28200:28:19,320 --> 00:28:24,360How do we shake it off? I want to share a scripture here. Listen to this out of second Corinthians,28300:28:24,360 --> 00:28:30,520chapter 10. And even the subtitle of my Bible says the spiritual war. And I won't read the whole28400:28:30,520 --> 00:28:35,240thing. I'll just read this part. Verse three, for though we walk in the flesh, we do not war28500:28:35,240 --> 00:28:41,560according to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, that's fleshly,28600:28:41,560 --> 00:28:49,160but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds. Stronghold is when the enemy gets a hold of28700:28:49,160 --> 00:28:55,320something in you. He can leverage it. It can be a habit, it can be an issue, it can be a sin,28800:28:55,320 --> 00:29:01,480it can be a behavior, it can be a thought. A stronghold is like when the enemy has a28900:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,200hook in you that he can just grab hold of. Something that you can't shake off. You can't.29000:29:06,200 --> 00:29:12,120It's like a besetting sin and it just, no matter what you do, you can't stop. I always think of29100:29:12,120 --> 00:29:17,080mountain climbers when they're going up there hammering those hooks into the side of a granite29200:29:17,080 --> 00:29:23,000wall. That's what that is. It's a stronghold and they can attach something to it, you know,29300:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,160their rope and whatever, all their gear. And that's how they were able to scale a wall. Well,29400:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,520the enemy attaches these things attached to us and it's like he literally has leverage now29500:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,960in our lives and to harass and oppress us. He says, I want to read that verse again,29600:29:37,960 --> 00:29:43,960for the weapons of our warfare are not carnal or fleshly, but mighty in God. Our weapons are29700:29:43,960 --> 00:29:52,120mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments, and every high thing29800:29:52,120 --> 00:29:57,480that exalts itself against the knowledge of God. Everything that would exalt itself against you29900:29:57,480 --> 00:30:03,480knowing God can be cast down. It can literally, because your weapons of your warfare are mighty30000:30:03,480 --> 00:30:10,120in God. The problem is, is we don't teach this and we don't talk about it enough. And we think in our30100:30:10,120 --> 00:30:16,040modern civilized world that this is just ancient stuff. Well, it's not because most of the populated30200:30:16,040 --> 00:30:22,680world knows this and understand it. We Americans who think we've intellectually ascended and30300:30:22,680 --> 00:30:27,800are so civilized. Yeah, we're real civilized. Just look back a couple years ago with the riots.30400:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,120Yeah, that was civilized. And look at all the smash and grab robberies that are happening right30500:30:32,120 --> 00:30:38,920now and carjackings and random street beatings and stuff. Yeah, we're so civilized. No, we're30600:30:38,920 --> 00:30:44,760not any different. So listen to this. Casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts30700:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,680itself against the knowledge of God. And then this one stuck out to me. I learned this many,30800:30:48,680 --> 00:30:56,280many years ago. Bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ. God has30900:30:56,280 --> 00:31:02,360given us the ability to capture thoughts. In other words, to capture a thought, it's like hunting.31000:31:02,920 --> 00:31:08,200You can't shoot something you can't see. If there's not a target, you're just shooting into the woods31100:31:08,200 --> 00:31:14,040hoping to hit something, right? What are the odds? But you've got to be able to see a target. And so31200:31:14,040 --> 00:31:20,440I see it like that. That the ability to captivate a thought means you can see what it is. There's a31300:31:20,440 --> 00:31:26,200target. Wait a minute. It's like when you recognize a counterfeit bill in a stack of 20s going,31400:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,800wait a minute, this doesn't feel right. This doesn't even feel like real money. Something's31500:31:29,800 --> 00:31:35,240not right here. You just know something's off. And so when our minds go down these tracks,31600:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,600I'll bless you. I'm sorry. No, I'm not boring you. No, you're not. I'm just kidding. I'm sorry. It's31700:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,080been a day. It is late too. We never do this, this late seven o'clock here. We're usually like two31800:31:45,080 --> 00:31:51,480in the afternoon. But we are able to identify these thoughts and recognize, okay, something's31900:31:51,480 --> 00:31:57,400not right. That didn't originate with me. I don't think those kinds of thoughts. And so when we32000:31:57,400 --> 00:32:03,240recognize it, we can now capture it and we make it obedient to Christ. We subject that thought to32100:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,600Christ. Does that make sense? Right. Which means you have to change the way you think.32200:32:06,600 --> 00:32:13,000Big time. Literally be transformed by the renewing of your mind or the changing of the way you think.32300:32:13,000 --> 00:32:20,760Romans 12, 1. Yep. 12, 1 and 2. Yeah. So good. So I don't know if any of you are relating to that.32400:32:20,760 --> 00:32:26,600I'm sure you are. We all know that we're under this something's going on that's bigger than us.32500:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,280And the beauty of it is there's hope in Jesus Christ. I don't know what people do without the32600:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,600hope of Jesus. We were just talking about that recently. With what we've had to deal with this week,32700:32:36,600 --> 00:32:42,360I just, I don't know. I really don't know what people would do. I just, thank God we have a32800:32:42,360 --> 00:32:49,640savior to go to and say, help, help us. You said that you give us help in our time of need and we32900:32:49,640 --> 00:32:59,400are in need of help. We need wisdom. We need to do what is right, not what our flesh wants to do,33000:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,280but what you want us to do in this situation. You know, freedom in Christ doesn't mean that you get33100:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,840to do what you want to do. It means that you now have the ability to do what's right. Exactly.33200:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,080People don't get that though. Yeah. They think freedom means, oh, I just go do this, go party,33300:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,960and go act like a fool. I'm going to heaven. Yeah. No big deal. Grace covers it. No. That's not what33400:33:17,960 --> 00:33:23,320it means. Freedom in Christ doesn't mean you do whatever you want. It means you now are empowered33500:33:23,320 --> 00:33:30,120to do the right things. You have power to do that. That's freedom. Freedom is having power over33600:33:30,680 --> 00:33:36,040thoughts, power over your flesh and over those base things about us and primal things that we33700:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,600want to do, these fleshly things. And God gives us that power, gives us authority.33800:33:41,320 --> 00:33:46,760The word grace is an interesting word because people think it's soft. Oh grace. Yeah, it's grace.33900:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,960Yeah, there's grace for that. It's actually a very powerful word and it literally, when you break it34000:33:51,960 --> 00:33:57,480down in the Greek into its various parts and parse it down, it literally means this, God's power,34100:33:57,480 --> 00:34:05,160God's strength, God's ability, God's authority, and God's favor to do what you cannot in and of34200:34:05,160 --> 00:34:11,640yourself do. That's grace. That's not passive. That's powerful. Right. And so we have been given34300:34:11,640 --> 00:34:19,080grace to stand and oppose the enemy who comes and opposes us. We sure have. I'm preaching now. You34400:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,240are. I'm excited. You are. I'm fired up. That's my bedtime though. I'm getting really sleepy.34500:34:23,240 --> 00:34:30,600I know. I'm fired up. So I want to land the plane on that, but I also just want to bring up a couple34600:34:30,600 --> 00:34:37,160of cool things that happened. One is we had another, yet another birthday celebration.34700:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,840Well, Adam gets several because- Yeah, most people get a day, right?34800:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,520I get a whole month. If I'm lucky, I get a day. No, I get a whole month. You get a month. I get a day.34900:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,520If I'm lucky. You get a day because your birthday's on the next to the last day of the month. Yeah,35000:34:48,520 --> 00:34:54,440that's true. It's boring. But not Adam. He gets multiple outings. So we took him out and we talked35100:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,640about that last week. We brought him here. Well, we took him out and then we brought him here.35200:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,160We brought him over here. I wanted to show off my new pellet grill.35300:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,800Of which he said, oh my gosh, I got to go get one now.35400:35:03,800 --> 00:35:09,800So he begged Tina, can I get this for my birthday? And she's like, I already got you a birthday.35500:35:09,800 --> 00:35:15,000All right. Well, Christmas. Well, because Tina's doing carnivore. So for those of you who don't35600:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,800know, last week we talked, we talked about this last few weeks where we're doing the carnivore diet.35700:35:19,800 --> 00:35:26,760We are on day number 72 of eating nothing but meat. Lots of meat. And a little bit of fruit.35800:35:26,760 --> 00:35:32,360Tiny bit of fruit. A little tiny bit. Just here and there. But that's it. Only watermelon35900:35:32,360 --> 00:35:37,560because it's about to go out of season. Yeah. And then Dr. Paul Saladino says watermelon's okay36000:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,720in moderation. Yeah, I like him. I like to find the doctors who say it's okay.36100:35:41,720 --> 00:35:46,360Oh, he says honey's okay too. I know, but I won't do that. I'm too afraid it'll spot my insulin.36200:35:46,360 --> 00:35:53,080It will. It will for sure. So Tina has joined us on this carnivore journey because first of all,36300:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,720she saw the impact it made on us. I mean, we started losing weight. We're in shape. It's like36400:35:58,280 --> 00:36:03,400got energy. We feel good. I'm so thankful we were doing this when we hit all this mess.36500:36:04,120 --> 00:36:09,640It's like all this turbulence. Or we would have gone and had a box of brownie mix. Or a box of36600:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,440wine or something stupid. Well, and that too. That's another thing we gave up. That was our normal36700:36:14,440 --> 00:36:19,800go-to before. Yeah, it's so easy to get trapped into that. Like, oh, well, we deserve a drink36800:36:19,800 --> 00:36:25,560tonight because we're tired and we're stressed. And we just completely turned our back on all of36900:36:25,560 --> 00:36:34,200that and said, no, no, no more. Our refuge is Christ. We will run to Him only. And that's a37000:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,120commitment that you and I have made to each other. And so we're checking each other up.37100:36:38,120 --> 00:36:46,760You know, so I'm drinking a cup of chocolate salt. I know it sounds crazy. So there's this37200:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,560cool. So part of the carnivore journey and the health side of this, we call it mind, body,37300:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,360spirit, total life victory. We're trying to get the three-legged stool all in the right order.37400:36:57,800 --> 00:37:03,160So we returned on to element as a, it's a thousand milligrams of sodium,37500:37:03,160 --> 00:37:11,480it's like 600 milligrams of magnesium or potassium. I don't remember. Yeah. So it's magnesium,37600:37:11,480 --> 00:37:16,920sodium, potassium, and it's very flavorful. But they also have a chocolate salt. It's very salty37700:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,320because of the sodium. Which you can put in your coffee or you can put hot water. I'm drinking it37800:37:21,320 --> 00:37:27,400with butter. Do you put sugar? I mean, any kind of? No, no. No sweetener or anything. Element. It's37900:37:27,400 --> 00:37:32,120great. It's LMNT. So anyway, we're all in this journey together. We're learning all these things.38000:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,920We've been studying and researching. And so we brought them over for a meat night.38100:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,040What did we make? What was that called? That huge thing, a bavette? A bavette. Did I get that right?38200:37:42,040 --> 00:37:47,640Never have made that in our life. And we got a bavette in our meat stock that we ordered.38300:37:47,640 --> 00:37:55,080From KNC Cattle. It was really good. It's a top of flank steak. Good. It was amazing. I've never38400:37:55,080 --> 00:38:01,080cooked anything like that. So we had to work around it, but we got it figured out and it was so good.38500:38:01,080 --> 00:38:07,480But we had such a sweet evening. But I felt sorry for Adam. He's not doing the carnivore. He doesn't38600:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,160want to join the gang. So all we talk about at dinner and he's just like, I feel left out. I saw38700:38:11,160 --> 00:38:16,040the look on his face. I'm like, man, we got to bring Adam back into the conversation. He's feeling38800:38:16,040 --> 00:38:21,720left out. Well, I did. I talked about Noah Jinda, his podcast and how. I know. Because we listened38900:38:21,720 --> 00:38:25,720to Noah Jinda and we were getting a lot out of it actually. Yeah, it was really good. So if you want39000:38:25,720 --> 00:38:32,680to listen to a podcast that will really inform you and get you thinking about what's going on,39100:38:33,960 --> 00:38:40,520deconstructing media, especially the mainstream media, then Adam Curry, John Devorax called39200:38:40,520 --> 00:38:46,600Noah Jinda. It's only like three and a half hours long. That was the longest podcast I've ever seen.39300:38:46,600 --> 00:38:51,160And they do it twice a week. They do it on Sunday and they do it on Thursday. So we don't always39400:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,800get to. Yeah, it's a lot. I mean, sorry, Adam, a lot of hours. We have jobs too that we keep us really39500:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,760busy, but we do try. But what we do is we ask Adam, we're together all the time. Tell us what you39600:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,000talked about. Tell us what's going on. What did y'all deconstruct and all that. And it's just always39700:39:05,000 --> 00:39:10,120very informative. But if you want to really listen to a podcast that will give you some39800:39:10,120 --> 00:39:15,960good information, go with that. Or their podcast, Curry and the Keeper, which that's really how we39900:39:15,960 --> 00:39:21,560got to know them. Initially, we listened to their podcast. They didn't have one this week. They took a week off.40000:39:21,560 --> 00:39:28,200They took a week off. Yeah. Have we ever done that? Yes, we did. We did one time early on when we were kind of40100:39:28,200 --> 00:39:33,960figuring all this out. This is their first time to take a week off. We're not late, but hey, better late than40200:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,680never. She needed a break. That's right. That's right. Leaving early in the morning. So yeah.40300:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,680So anyway, we had a sweet time with them. We always have an amazing time when we hang out with our40400:39:44,680 --> 00:39:51,240best friends. And that's just, we're thankful for them. Lots of God conversations. Oh man.40500:39:52,280 --> 00:39:57,160We're all learning. We're all on a journey. You and I have known the Lord many years. They're new to Christ.40600:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,680But what's so fun is sharing all of our learnings. Because they're learning things that40700:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,720we're just going, wow, that's insightful. Of course, Adam's brilliant and Tina is too.40800:40:07,720 --> 00:40:12,440So they have a lot of great insights. They do. So it's fun to watch their journey and watch them40900:40:12,440 --> 00:40:18,280growing in Christ and for us to get to just be with them on that journey and encourage them along41000:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,440the way. That's what I'm most excited about is getting to be with someone on that journey41100:40:22,440 --> 00:40:30,280on a daily basis like we are. We don't, that rarely happens with us. So it's really amazing.41200:40:30,280 --> 00:40:35,160But yesterday we had a very interesting thing happen at the gym and at the restaurant. I was just about to bring that up41300:40:35,160 --> 00:40:41,720because I was thinking in terms of when you're, we call it leaky buckets. You get so full,41400:40:41,720 --> 00:40:45,800so full. Our buckets aren't leaky anymore. They're just running over. And we are going to the gym41500:40:45,800 --> 00:40:51,800every day right now because of the stress. Well, and because we're in shape. We're wanting to do it.41600:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,760You know, we're staying in it. Right. But it helps. Oh, it does help. It keeps me out of the psychiatrist office.41700:40:56,760 --> 00:41:02,600So we haven't done pictures and all that stuff, but we've had a pretty massive transformation41800:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,280in our physiques and our bodies. Not that we were terribly out of shape because we stayed,41900:41:06,280 --> 00:41:12,760we were in the gym the whole time. But once we got on first, we got into ketosis through keto,42000:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,320the ketogenic diet, which we're very familiar with and did that for years. But then we wanted to42100:41:17,320 --> 00:41:22,040up our game and we embraced the carnivore journey because my friend Michael Schuser from the band42200:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,840Mercy Me, he's one of the guitar players, he's been on it. So he's a little further down on the road.42300:41:26,840 --> 00:41:32,280So I was watching his journey. So I started talking to him about his keto journey, start sending me42400:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,080pictures of what he's eating, you know, just steaks and, you know, it was man food, you know, like42500:41:37,080 --> 00:41:42,840primitive. And we just said, you know, let's do this. We didn't. Well, I think we should do this.42600:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,560And I'm like, I don't know if I can eat meat every day. I did because I was ready for a change. I42700:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,880was ready to get this under control. I was nervous. But I thought, I'll give it a try. I didn't feel good though.42800:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,600I wasn't feeling great. So you were, you needed a change. I knew I needed something that would,42900:41:56,600 --> 00:42:02,120that was more hardcore in a sense. Well, it is. And it's been wonderful. It's been transformative for us.43000:42:02,120 --> 00:42:07,960The first two and a half weeks were really tough. Oh yeah. After that. But anyway, yesterday,43100:42:07,960 --> 00:42:14,520oh my goodness, we're at the gym. Okay. So we've been going to the same gym for four and a half years.43200:42:15,400 --> 00:42:20,600I told this to Tina today. It was just, it was just so beautiful. And I couldn't wait to tell43300:42:20,600 --> 00:42:26,440her when I saw her, she was volunteering at the church. But there was this woman there that we see43400:42:26,440 --> 00:42:32,520every time we go. She's there every, I've wondered if she lives there. I mean, literally,43500:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,000every time we go, we could go early in the morning, she's there. We could go late in the43600:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,720afternoon, she's there. And I'm just like, cause we have to go at varied times because of our work.43700:42:41,720 --> 00:42:51,560And I, you know, you've talked about not withholding encouragement. Yeah. We've given up the right to43800:42:51,560 --> 00:42:57,320withhold encouragement. And we talked about that on our last podcast. Well, because I see her all43900:42:57,320 --> 00:43:04,520the time, I thought, you know, I want to go encourage her and say, cause she's an older lady. I knew she44000:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,840was older. I wasn't for sure. But I didn't know how old. I didn't know either cause we're old. She44100:43:08,840 --> 00:43:14,360could be 40 and look like 80 or she could be 80 and look like 40. You know, you just don't know.44200:43:14,360 --> 00:43:20,680And so I, I, uh, so you felt prompted to talk to her and I was going to try to make eye contact44300:43:20,680 --> 00:43:25,560with her and you know, like with a smile and then walk over there. Well, I tried and she wasn't44400:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,600looking at me. She was like looking behind me or something. I was like, okay, there's a timing.44500:43:30,600 --> 00:43:36,920Cause there is a gym etiquette and I appreciate gym etiquette myself. And so I go and I work out,44600:43:37,640 --> 00:43:47,400finally I get to the AB room, which is my, my last thing that I work out and she stops me. Okay.44700:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,760We've seen her four and a half years, never stopped me. And yet the Lord told me I needed to44800:43:52,760 --> 00:43:57,000talk to her, never said a word to her, never said a word. And I know it was the Lord prompted me44900:43:57,000 --> 00:44:03,320cause I'm not one to go talk to someone in a gym at all. At all. I'm very focused. She stops me.45000:44:03,320 --> 00:44:11,240I take out my earbuds and she asked me if I'm an athlete in training. Like, are you an athlete?45100:44:11,240 --> 00:44:17,320Cause you're training the way you look. And I said, Jimmy, don't do that. You make45200:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,800the dog move. Sorry, Chevy. He thinks you're caught. When I snap my fingers, he loses his mind.45300:44:21,800 --> 00:44:28,040He does. It's weird. So anyway, I said, well, I was an athlete. I was a gymnast in school and she45400:44:28,040 --> 00:44:34,520goes, I knew it. That's what it is. I said, that was elementary. And she started laughing. So you're45500:44:34,520 --> 00:44:40,440not an athlete at all. I said, no, I just come to the gym. It made me feel really, so can I tell45600:44:40,440 --> 00:44:45,400my version? So I had a different, no, I had a different vantage point. I look over cause I45700:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,160always look for you. And we usually end up at the abs. So we ended up kind of at the same time. We45800:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,840end up, you know, you're right. That's where we know we're about done. We know we're done. Yeah.45900:44:52,840 --> 00:44:58,440About 50 minutes to an hour. We know. Okay. So I walk into the AB area and they're at Planet46000:44:58,440 --> 00:45:04,920Fitness and I see y'all talking and you're engaged and I'm going, they're smiling. And I literally46100:45:04,920 --> 00:45:10,120real, I thought, this is a God moment that's happening. This is, this is leaky bucket territory.46200:45:10,120 --> 00:45:15,160Something happened that precipitated a conversation. And I've always been curious.46300:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,000And you didn't know if it was me or her. I didn't know, but I just. Cause I hadn't told you what the46400:45:19,000 --> 00:45:25,160Lord had showed me. And I had my, I had my Bose earbuds on and so, and they have great silencing.46500:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,880That's what I love about them. But I could hear y'all laughing even with the silence on, you know,46600:45:29,880 --> 00:45:35,880the, the noise cancellation. Cause I was in the same little room with you and I was actually46700:45:35,880 --> 00:45:40,440prayed for y'all. I didn't know who, I don't know her name. I don't know anything about her. I found46800:45:40,440 --> 00:45:45,560out her name and I prayed for y'all talking for your conversation that God would be in the middle46900:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,880of it. Well, it was, it was really interesting because I literally felt like the Lord told me47000:45:49,880 --> 00:45:55,960to go and encourage her. And then she approaches me and encourages me. But then I was able to do47100:45:55,960 --> 00:46:02,200what the Lord told me to do. And I said, how old are you? And she said, I'll be 71 in November.47200:46:02,200 --> 00:46:09,320And I was like, what? Wow. Had no idea. And she works out on a StairMaster for an hour. Okay. I47300:46:09,320 --> 00:46:15,480can't go past six minutes on a StairMaster. She works out for like three or four hours at every47400:46:15,480 --> 00:46:22,760other day. 71, she's thin and trim. I mean, I was just like, what? And she said her husband's 8147500:46:23,400 --> 00:46:28,920and he's even in better shape than she is. Which I'm like, what? He said, he can, he can beat out47600:46:28,920 --> 00:46:34,440anyone in this gym and looks better than anyone in this gym. And I said, wait a minute, my husband's47700:46:34,440 --> 00:46:40,520right over there. But it was, it was really good because I got to say, listen, I have been wanting47800:46:40,520 --> 00:46:49,000to come and talk to you and just tell you how much I admire you and how I admire your discipline.47900:46:49,000 --> 00:46:53,560Because most people don't have that. I mean, it takes a lot of discipline to do what she's doing48000:46:53,560 --> 00:47:00,280for sure. And so then I realized, God, you really were in this, but you were wanting me to get to48100:47:00,280 --> 00:47:05,480her because she was going to do something for me that I needed. And I needed to hear that.48200:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,160I needed to hear that affirmation. Are you an athlete? Yeah. You're on this transformative48300:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,560journey right now. And it's nice when someone says something. Yeah. Because you know, you wonder,48400:47:13,560 --> 00:47:19,000okay, nobody. It's creepy when a dude does, but it's nice when someone of the same sex says,48500:47:19,000 --> 00:47:25,160you know, I can see you. You're, man, what are you doing? You don't look the same. Yeah. And it was48600:47:25,160 --> 00:47:34,680really, it was very flattering, but it was also humbling. And it was just, I'm just so in awe of48700:47:34,680 --> 00:47:40,840God and how he wanted me to get something to her so that she could, or get to her so she could get48800:47:40,840 --> 00:47:46,360something to me first. And it was amazing. Well, it's an exchange. It's a beautiful exchange.48900:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,200Y'all were encouraging one another, which is what scripture talks about. We should do,49000:47:50,200 --> 00:47:56,120we should live that way. And I do have to say, Tina has been complimenting me every time she sees49100:47:56,120 --> 00:48:01,640me. She's like, oh my God. I'm like, you see me all the time. Well, not all every day, but she's49200:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,320been wonderful. She's beautiful. Our daughter thinks she's a supermodel. I know. And I'm just,49300:48:05,320 --> 00:48:10,280I keep telling her I'm just trying to look like her. She looks like a supermodel. But yesterday,49400:48:10,280 --> 00:48:17,000we leave, I have to tell the other story. Okay. The other side. It's a little embarrassing. I know,49500:48:17,000 --> 00:48:23,560but for you, but we leave and go straight to Bill Miller's barbecue. It's a new barbecue place.49600:48:23,560 --> 00:48:30,200We can have a pound of brisket. That's right. Not each. We split it. And, which is so weird,49700:48:30,200 --> 00:48:35,640we go up to order. We're like, we don't want a sandwich or anything. Can we just have a pound49800:48:35,640 --> 00:48:41,800of brisket? She's like, sure. Yeah, this is easy. Do you want it moist? Do you want it? I'm just49900:48:41,800 --> 00:48:48,040like, wow. Okay. So we, we do that. We sit down. We're in our gym clothes. We just came from the50000:48:48,040 --> 00:48:53,240gym and you leave to go get some butter. I said, go get some butter, which turned out to be margarine.50100:48:53,240 --> 00:48:58,040And we said, no, no, no, no, no. Thank you. We don't do that stuff. It's poison. But while you're50200:48:58,040 --> 00:49:02,120over there, a gentleman is sitting there with, I didn't know if it was his granddaughter or his50300:49:02,120 --> 00:49:08,280daughter, little, little, like four year old, five, five or six year old. And he turns to me and he50400:49:08,280 --> 00:49:15,560said, is that your husband? And I said, yes. Like, are you okay? I mean, I was like, kind of scary.50500:49:15,560 --> 00:49:22,600It's kind of an odd question. Like, yes. And he said, he looks amazing. I'm just like, what is50600:49:22,600 --> 00:49:31,640going on, Lord? That's crazy. We're, we've had a really crazy week and we have two people on the same day50700:49:31,640 --> 00:49:37,960compliment us. And he said, he looks amazing. I wish I could look like that. And I know you're50800:49:37,960 --> 00:49:43,000about our age, but man, he just looked, he just wouldn't stop. Well, the shock was when I told him50900:49:43,000 --> 00:49:48,840we were 61 and he thought we were about the same age. He's probably younger. He's younger than us.51000:49:48,840 --> 00:49:56,680But we, he turns around when you get there and he asks you questions and you're sharing with him.51100:49:56,680 --> 00:50:01,480And he wanted to know what we were doing. And it was really amazing. But it turned into this really51200:50:01,480 --> 00:50:06,840interesting conversation because I sense more was going on. And he even said at one point, he said,51300:50:06,840 --> 00:50:13,320you two are really cool people. There's something about y'all. And I always think of that scripture.51400:50:13,320 --> 00:50:19,880It says, they look to him and their faces are radiant. And that's what we endeavor to do.51500:50:20,600 --> 00:50:25,880Minding our own business. Eating a bunch of meat. And we were eating a big pile of meat. We were51600:50:25,880 --> 00:50:30,040hungry. I've almost gotten to the point where I eat it with my hands. You've turned into a primal carnivore.51700:50:30,040 --> 00:50:34,280Give it to me with my hands. I don't even need it for. You did that the other day. I did. I was like,51800:50:34,280 --> 00:50:40,200you're such a Philistine. What can I say? It's so good. But I love it. It's hot. I'm not going to lie.51900:50:40,200 --> 00:50:45,080So anyway, those were two really amazing things. He turned out to be this big entrepreneur guy who's52000:50:45,080 --> 00:50:50,760building this new amazing place in town and showing us pictures. And it was his granddaughter. Inviting52100:50:50,760 --> 00:50:56,200us to come and inviting us to come. We can't really eat there. But we can, maybe you can modify some52200:50:56,200 --> 00:51:02,280force. We'll do whatever we have to do. Yeah. Make us a bowl of cheese and pepperonis and sausages.52300:51:02,280 --> 00:51:07,960That's about all we can eat there. But it was a God thing. And that was, again, it was that leaking52400:51:07,960 --> 00:51:15,080life. It was that faces radiant. And that is, that's our heart. When we, you know, living up in a down52500:51:15,080 --> 00:51:20,680world, the title came from a paper I wrote in college when our teacher said, you can write a52600:51:20,680 --> 00:51:26,200paper, you know, it has to be this long, whatever topic you want. And for some reason, this phrase52700:51:26,200 --> 00:51:31,960popped into my mind. I was young, new Christian, excited. I was studying for the ministry. And I52800:51:31,960 --> 00:51:38,040was just thinking, I was God minded all the time, God inside minded. And that title popped in. I'm52900:51:38,040 --> 00:51:43,480living up in a down world because I'm a follower of Jesus. So that's what launched that. So that has53000:51:43,480 --> 00:51:49,560stuck with me from college. Wow. Just not exactly yesterday or last year. No, it wasn't. So all those53100:51:49,560 --> 00:51:55,160years ago. And so, but I've never been able to use that title for anything until we started this53200:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,560podcast. And I felt like the Lord's, this is what we want to help people do because this is what53300:51:59,560 --> 00:52:05,240we're doing. And we could have sat there with a snarl on our face and talked about, you know,53400:52:05,240 --> 00:52:11,320how bad things are. And we, you know, people can sense that kind of stuff too. So it was really53500:52:11,320 --> 00:52:17,720good that we came in, we were energetic. That exchange had just happened with that woman.53600:52:17,720 --> 00:52:22,520We, I listened to some good messages because I always, yeah, we were grateful. We were in a53700:52:22,520 --> 00:52:29,640grateful place. Came in and then he was just, it was just, it was amazing. His name was Michael.53800:52:29,640 --> 00:52:34,200Yeah. Oh, you caught his name. Yeah. I don't remember his name. Super cool guy. Yeah. It was very53900:52:34,200 --> 00:52:39,880uplifting. We will go see him again. We'll circle back around as soon as his new restaurant opens in January.54000:52:39,880 --> 00:52:45,640We should go the first day. That would be cool. Come to the opening, go, remember us from Bill Miller.54100:52:45,640 --> 00:52:53,400We were eating a pile of meat. It has to be meat. Right. Anyway, that was a beautiful exchange.54200:52:53,400 --> 00:53:00,200Leaky bucket moments. And we're so grateful that we get to do these kinds of things.54300:53:00,200 --> 00:53:05,480Even though we had had a really bad week, even though we were like, eh, you know, just kind of54400:53:05,480 --> 00:53:11,880crawling out from under the rubble of our return, within a very short time, we were able to flip that54500:53:11,880 --> 00:53:19,320and be gracious and have gratitude and be thankful and to say, well, you know, this is just temporary.54600:53:19,320 --> 00:53:25,160This will pass. This stuff, we've been in this for a long time, three decades together and me,54700:53:25,160 --> 00:53:30,760four decades. You know, we have history in God. We know these things turn. We know these things54800:53:30,760 --> 00:53:36,280come kind of in waves and then they go away. And so, you know, we have a perspective of having a54900:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,760long walk with God, you know, long obedience in one direction, as one writer put it.55000:53:40,760 --> 00:53:46,760And so we know it's going to pass and we'll wake up in a couple of days and go, oh, wow, that wasn't55100:53:46,760 --> 00:53:51,800what it is. And usually what happens, in hindsight, we say things like, that wasn't as big a deal as55200:53:51,800 --> 00:53:56,760we made it. Right. Or I wish I hadn't reacted at that. I wish I hadn't gotten so dramatic over that55300:53:56,760 --> 00:54:01,800because it really wasn't that big a deal. Right. And that's the value of experience. And so55400:54:01,800 --> 00:54:07,560we were sort of in that mode that day. It was actually on Monday and we were just in a good55500:54:07,560 --> 00:54:13,720place and even coming off of all that. And God brings these two people to just encourage us and55600:54:13,720 --> 00:54:17,880create these beautiful exchanges. But I was still so taxed with everything. I was so tired. I was55700:54:17,880 --> 00:54:25,240like, I can't do the show because my mind is mush. Are you in? And you had to work on our Sabbath.55800:54:25,240 --> 00:54:29,320I did. I don't get a Sabbath like you. And it's because we have a board meeting coming up. It's55900:54:29,320 --> 00:54:35,160our annual meeting. So there's a lot to do. I've got a lot on my plate. You do. You do. And so56000:54:35,160 --> 00:54:40,280I was like, no, it's okay. We can wait a day or not even do it this week if we don't have to.56100:54:40,280 --> 00:54:45,960The sun will come up tomorrow. The moon will shine. Isn't that a song? The sun will come up tomorrow.56200:54:45,960 --> 00:54:54,520Okay, let's thank some people. Thanks some folks. Hey, gosh, okay. Let me scroll down here. First56300:54:54,520 --> 00:54:59,080of all, we want you to know the way we do the show, we don't have sponsorships. We don't have56400:54:59,080 --> 00:55:06,200sponsorships. We don't have people sponsoring us to do a podcast. All we have is a lot of encouragement56500:55:06,200 --> 00:55:12,760from Adam and Tina Curry, the pod father and the pod couple. But we participate in something called56600:55:12,760 --> 00:55:18,520value for value. And what that is is when, and really this is such a life principle that Adam56700:55:18,520 --> 00:55:24,120really felt like was a God thing that he gave him a few years ago. Value for value is this, is when56800:55:24,120 --> 00:55:29,240you see value in what something's doing, it's kind of like when you have a good server at a restaurant56900:55:29,240 --> 00:55:34,760and they're chipper and they're alive and it adds value to your experience. You want to bless them.57000:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,720You want to pay it forward. And so you give them a good tip. And I call it sometimes giving an57100:55:39,720 --> 00:55:44,280offering instead of a tip, you know, because we want to bless people who are doing something57200:55:44,280 --> 00:55:49,480that's meaningful and it adds value to your life. So if what we're doing on this show is encouraging57300:55:49,480 --> 00:55:54,600you and adding any level of value, we don't get paid to do this. This is something we do out of57400:55:54,600 --> 00:56:01,000love. It's a love thing, but it's nice when people show value. And so we have the opportunity for57500:56:01,000 --> 00:56:08,200that on our website. It's called livingupinadownworld.com. Very simple, livingupinadownworld.com.57600:56:08,200 --> 00:56:13,800And we have a feature there where you can donate and encourage and help and just show value for57700:56:13,800 --> 00:56:19,320what we're doing if you're getting value. And we want to say thank you for those that are. Karen Young57800:56:19,320 --> 00:56:24,120blessed us with a gift this last week. We love David and Karen. They go to our church. He's an57900:56:24,120 --> 00:56:29,640ER doctor and they're just cool people. And he came up to me on Sunday. Now he's a big boy. He58000:56:29,640 --> 00:56:34,680looks like a linebacker. And when he gives a hug, I mean, I have to brace myself because I know it's58100:56:34,680 --> 00:56:40,920coming strong. ER doc, he's strong, he's intense. And I love David. And he comes up and gives me a58200:56:40,920 --> 00:56:46,760bro hug, you know, and crushes a couple of my ribs. And he said, man, what are you? He said,58300:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,760because people haven't seen us in two months. So we've had a transformation in two months.58400:56:51,320 --> 00:56:57,240And he's like, dude, what are you doing? He said, I don't even, you look totally different. You're58500:56:57,240 --> 00:57:02,680in great shape. And I said, I looked at him, I said, carnivore. He goes, we need to talk. So we're58600:57:02,680 --> 00:57:07,400going to, we're going to talk. So David and Karen, two of our just precious people from our church.58700:57:07,400 --> 00:57:13,560And so thank you, Karen, for blessing us. Yes, really appreciate it. And then we've got58800:57:13,560 --> 00:57:19,000boostograms that I want to share. I'm going to start at the top with one, believe it or not,58900:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,720Mr. Adam Curry. In fact, you know, no, I kind of like this one.59000:57:28,840 --> 00:57:34,360He's all about keeping the lid down at the house. And so one of the guys watching the show did that59100:57:34,360 --> 00:57:39,720for him. I love that. So he sent me that. So, and it is actually a Straper boost. So I kind of have59200:57:39,720 --> 00:57:45,240to give it a little Straper moment there, but so appreciate, so appreciate him. Let me just give59300:57:45,240 --> 00:57:52,280you the note he said, he says, boosting for my super model keeper. She is 55% of this power couple59400:57:52,280 --> 00:57:57,240because I'm talking about them being a power couple. And I just said, I said, love it. We both married59500:57:57,240 --> 00:58:02,680up my friend and so appreciate Adam. He's just a dear friend looking forward to our bro date.59600:58:02,680 --> 00:58:08,760Also the keeper, believe it or not, Tina Curry. She also boosted us. She's mad that I'm not,59700:58:08,760 --> 00:58:13,240but you give enough for both of us now. That's true. That's true. That's true. We back and forth59800:58:13,240 --> 00:58:17,720because we love each other. She quoted me, asked the Lord for wisdom. Fear of the Lord is the59900:58:17,720 --> 00:58:23,080beginning of wisdom. So good. Another thought provoking, inspiring podcast. Love you too,60000:58:23,080 --> 00:58:27,960so much. Tina, we love you too much as well. We're praying for your trip and it's going to be a60100:58:27,960 --> 00:58:34,920blessed time. And then it got, oh, this is cool. We did get another Striper donation, Striper Boost60200:58:34,920 --> 00:58:41,320from Sir T.J. The Wrathful. Man, that's a wild handle. He says, thank you for the weekly60300:58:41,320 --> 00:58:46,600encouragement. My brother Ben Dorffle has some worship songs on value for value. I think you60400:58:46,600 --> 00:58:53,240might really like, oh, he gave me a link to this. This is on apparently Adam on Boostagram Ball,60500:58:53,240 --> 00:59:00,600which is a completely value for value based radio internet podcast that Adam has developed60600:59:00,600 --> 00:59:06,280and has put together where people that he plays their songs. And if people are boosting with60700:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,880Satoshis and Bitcoin, it actually goes to the artists. And so artists who've never been signed60800:59:11,880 --> 00:59:18,680are on a label, which is a joke these years, these days. Music industry is just as broken as anything.60900:59:18,680 --> 00:59:24,840Now they can actually play their songs and be heard and be blessed. And if you like what you're61000:59:24,840 --> 00:59:30,200hearing, you can boost them and send them value for value. And that thing is taken off. So it's61100:59:30,200 --> 00:59:35,000called Boostagram Ball. If you want to check out Adam and his element as a DJ, because that's,61200:59:35,000 --> 00:59:39,160that was what it cut his teeth. How do you get on it? Through Fountain? You can find it on Fountain.61300:59:39,160 --> 00:59:44,760You can just Google Boostagram Ball and it'll take you to the right podcast. There's several61400:59:44,760 --> 00:59:51,720platforms that it's on. And so podcastindex.com, you can look that up and actually find it on there61500:59:51,720 --> 00:59:56,680as well. And then he just, man, there's some great music out there that people never get signed.61600:59:56,680 --> 01:00:01,400There's so much talent that, you know, and maybe some producer will hear them. Exactly. Well,61701:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,720and it goes not always to be, I think, I think this thing's going to take off. It's going to be61801:00:05,720 --> 01:00:11,560a whole new wave of music in the future. Awesome. So Adam, man, just the entrepreneur he is. So61901:00:11,560 --> 01:00:18,200thank you, Sir Brian, Sir TJ, the raffle. We really appreciate that. Appreciate your boost62001:00:18,200 --> 01:00:24,120and your encouragement. And then Julie Herbert, friend of ours from church. We love Julie.62101:00:24,120 --> 01:00:30,840And I'm proud of her. She's figured out how to do boostograms. That's huge. It is. That's so proud62201:00:30,840 --> 01:00:36,680of her. She says, probably my favorite yet. That was last week's episode number 34. She says,62301:00:36,680 --> 01:00:41,960as Pastor Bobby V, that's Pastor Bobby Vitek at our church here in town, a friend of ours,62401:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,800Holy Ghost Lutheran. Have you ever heard of a Lutheran church called Holy Ghost? Very different62501:00:45,800 --> 01:00:50,120name. But it is what it is. It's one of our great churches here in our community. He's a great62601:00:50,120 --> 01:00:56,360pastor. And he says, got some good nuggets there. So sweet. But we love our friends and we love you.62701:00:56,360 --> 01:01:01,160Thank you for listening. And Chevy, thank you for being with us today. He's just looking at me like,62801:01:01,160 --> 01:01:06,600I'm having a blast here. Hey, we love you guys again. Go to our website, we love you. We love62901:01:06,600 --> 01:01:12,120you. Go to our website, Living Up in a Down World. Feel free to leave a review. We'd love to hear63001:01:12,120 --> 01:01:16,600from you or if you want to write us and let us know of anything, we would love to hear from you.63101:01:17,400 --> 01:01:22,440So we would encourage you to have a great week, an amazing week on purpose,63201:01:22,440 --> 01:01:37,800and keep living up in a down world.63301:01:52,440 --> 01:01:53,240you