"The Narrow Path"

100:00:00,000 --> 00:00:29,980This is Jimmy in a net and oh well with Mr.200:00:29,980 --> 00:00:35,880Chevy of course he's always with us. He's in fine form today as he's actually awake right now.300:00:35,880 --> 00:00:43,280He's going to jail tomorrow. I know puppy jail. Don't say that out loud. He saw us packing our bags.400:00:43,280 --> 00:00:49,640I know. He gets funky. Yeah I'm sure he's like oh no. Here I go again. Where am I going? I'm being banished to500:00:49,640 --> 00:00:56,000Siberia. It's gonna feel like Siberia now because it was 30 something degrees today. It was cold.600:00:56,000 --> 00:01:04,560I made it up to 45 I think. And I drove in the rain and cold. I had to have my seat heaters on.700:01:04,560 --> 00:01:11,000I never, you know I don't like to drive in the rain. I know you don't. It was a nice rain. It800:01:11,000 --> 00:01:17,720wasn't a thunderstorm. I had to get out. I had to go get my nails done. You need to give him900:01:17,720 --> 00:01:23,040some attention. I know. He's standing up. If people could see him standing up in a chair, he stands up.1000:01:23,040 --> 00:01:28,720Picture a gopher or a meerkat. It's weird. How they stand up on their haunches. I've never seen a dog like this. I know.1100:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,760And he's not standing up on his legs. He's sitting on his rear. On his rear. Like his haunches. And he'll do this.1200:01:33,760 --> 00:01:39,280He'll get up on the top of the couch and do that. He's a lot of a gopher. He's really needy right now. I know.1300:01:39,280 --> 00:01:44,600It's because he knows we're leaving. I know. I know. He's clingy. Well we want to welcome you to1400:01:44,600 --> 00:01:51,280Living Up in a Down World. My name is Jimmy and this is... What? Oh sorry. You're messing with Chevy.1500:01:51,280 --> 00:01:56,360Well I didn't know you were doing that. Well I'm cleaning his little eyes. I know. Okay. This is my wife Annette.1600:01:56,360 --> 00:02:01,080Annette. We've been married for almost 31 years. We have an anniversary coming up. I know.1700:02:01,080 --> 00:02:07,560And we got blessed with a gift didn't we? Yes. An anniversary gift. I am so stoked. I know.1800:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,760You're kind of off mic right now because you're messing with Chevy. Oh I'm sorry.1900:02:10,760 --> 00:02:17,080Here Chevy stop. Focus. Focus. Come back to me. Yes we're going to Pagosa Springs the week of Thanksgiving.2000:02:17,080 --> 00:02:23,960I'm so excited. I hope the weather's going to be nice. Yeah you never know. You never know there.2100:02:23,960 --> 00:02:29,080So it's close to Durango. Beautiful beautiful area up there. I've been up there many times.2200:02:29,080 --> 00:02:34,920Growing up in West Texas in the panhandle of Texas when we did vacations we always took off to the mountains.2300:02:34,920 --> 00:02:42,080And so we spent a lot of time up in New Mexico and the mountains and obviously Colorado and Wyoming.2400:02:42,080 --> 00:02:51,480So all through my childhood. So we're going to be gone tomorrow for almost a week and then we come back for what two weeks and then we leave again for a week.2500:02:51,480 --> 00:02:57,680I know. I know. It's just we fall is usually that way. Every fall is a lot of travel because we also have a lot of conferences.2600:02:57,680 --> 00:03:04,560So we're going to a really really big conference that we're excited about. It's been a long time since we've been to Bethel.2700:03:04,560 --> 00:03:10,680We're going out to Bethel Church in Redding California. Pastor Bill Johnson is the lead pastor there.2800:03:10,680 --> 00:03:16,200He wrote When Heaven Invades Earth a number of years ago which was a game changing book for a lot of people.2900:03:16,200 --> 00:03:21,160Yes. So we're going to go out there. It's a pastor and leaders conference.3000:03:21,160 --> 00:03:27,000And so we fly out tomorrow. We come back Saturday and then I get to step up and preach on Sunday.3100:03:27,000 --> 00:03:32,880I'm super excited. I'm excited too. I'm excited to see what God's going to give you to preach on Sunday.3200:03:32,880 --> 00:03:41,280I'm open and I'm like a big antenna. I'm just receiving and just saying speak Lord and whatever you want your people to hear.3300:03:41,280 --> 00:03:46,520I'm here. Am I? Send me like Isaiah. There you go. So yeah. So we'll be flying out tomorrow.3400:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,240I'm looking forward to it. But it's going to be like in the 30s in the morning. I know.3500:03:50,240 --> 00:03:56,840And so for people that live in other countries and anywhere north of Tennessee, they're laughing at us right now going you are such whips.3600:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,880We are. But we are because we live in the heat down here. So we live in the Texas Hill country.3700:04:01,880 --> 00:04:07,600We don't get a lot of cold spells out here. No. But I heard this year is going to be.3800:04:07,600 --> 00:04:12,800I know we could have another snow. El Nino. Correct. El Nino or La Nina.3900:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,520I get El Nino El Nino. Supposedly every seven years.4000:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,960This seems like every year they're talking about this stuff. I don't know. I know.4100:04:19,960 --> 00:04:27,240It's weird. So supposedly we're going to have a very cold winter and then up north in the northern United States where typically it's colder.4200:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,880They're going to have above average temperature. We should go to Canada.4300:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,440Oh, I've always wanted to go to Canada. I've heard there's some beautiful.4400:04:35,440 --> 00:04:41,880I know up around. Where was it? Where the Norwoods lived up in.4500:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,600Up north of Washington state. Yeah, I don't know.4600:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,200We cannot recall that. Yeah, I don't know. It was like stunning.4700:04:50,200 --> 00:04:56,400Columbia. British Columbia. Oh, OK. OK. Yeah. Beautiful up there.4800:04:56,400 --> 00:05:01,200And I was jealous when they lived there, but we never got invited.4900:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,520No, we never and we've never been to Canada. No, we've flown over the edge of it.5000:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,320Many, many, many states, but never Canada. I know it.5100:05:09,320 --> 00:05:19,160So I'm excited. I love traveling with you. I do not like traveling alone, but when we're together, it's like honeymoon and it's joyful and it's fun.5200:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,920And you're my best friend. And so I just love, love, love traveling with you.5300:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,040We have a lot of fun. We do. It's always fun watching dudes hit on you in the airport.5400:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,320Oh, my gosh. They are not hitting on me. Oh, hello. You're funny.5500:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,520That's because you're gorgeous. Now, I turn around and they go, oh, she's the old one.5600:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,880I'm sorry. I look at it like this. It's flattering to me.5700:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,120It's like, dude, I won. So, you know, you're so I'm not threatened at all.5800:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,080You're hilarious. I'm happy. I got flirted with you at the gym the other day.5900:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,680I know that was kind of weird. Yeah.6000:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,360But you missed your moment because he said you looked really good and you should have said, you should see my husband.6100:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,400He's right over there. That would have been a perfect segue.6200:05:55,400 --> 00:06:01,400Well, I think I was just kind of shocked when he said that a younger man was flirting with you.6300:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,840I'm too old to do this. And I said, I'm quite a bit older than you.6400:06:05,840 --> 00:06:09,280And he goes, no, I can guarantee you're not.6500:06:09,280 --> 00:06:13,720And when I told him my age, he goes, oh, you are five years older.6600:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,000I could be your mother. Oh, I'm only five years older.6700:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,840I could be your aunt. No, I just know.6800:06:20,840 --> 00:06:24,760There's so many comebacks you could have had, but I think you were just kind of taken aback.6900:06:24,760 --> 00:06:30,440I think you were flattered. Well, I think it hadn't happened to me in 20 years.7000:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,960Well, once every decade or so, it's nice for somebody to pay a little attention.7100:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,280Yeah, it'll probably be my last time.7200:06:37,280 --> 00:06:40,960So when you when you text me, did I just run over there and stake my claim?7300:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,440No, no, I didn't. I just got hit on by a man.7400:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,520And I said, congratulations. That was my text back.7500:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,480Congratulations. You're not jealous at all.7600:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,400Not at all. Maybe you should be a little bit.7700:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,040No, no, I am so secure because you've made me feel secure.7800:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,960Oh, OK, good. We're safe with each other.7900:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,360And that's the way marriage should be. Absolutely.8000:07:00,360 --> 00:07:05,240Because we always say this to people that it's Jimmy and Annette, not Jimmy or Annette.8100:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,760Exactly. And we just present a united front.8200:07:07,760 --> 00:07:13,560In fact, in our church, what did I what I say I want you to start doing after the prayer night?8300:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,280You want me to come up with you?8400:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,080Anybody who's listening who's new needs to hear.8500:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,600We did this big prayer night like a week, two weeks.8600:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,120Well, we could go. It's been two weeks.8700:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,400Has it been two? OK, two Sundays ago on an evening.8800:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,320And we're praying for revival and spiritual awakening,8900:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,720because if there's ever a time when the world needs spiritual awakening, it's now.9000:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,800So we're calling some prayer meetings to do that.9100:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,480We had a couple of hundred people showed up. We had worship.9200:07:38,480 --> 00:07:43,280It was amazing night. Powerful, powerful night.9300:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,360And I brought you up on the platform to pray for one of the movements.9400:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,080We did eight movements and you did one of the movements.9500:07:49,080 --> 00:07:54,080And when you were up there standing with me, there was something I was like,9600:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,480this is as it should be. You should be with me up here.9700:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,320I'm not preaching with you.9800:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,120No, I didn't say that.9900:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,880It would be like this program where we're talking on top of each other, each other.10000:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,480Exactly. Although I thought about us doing a panel discussion.10100:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,320You and I talking about.10200:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,800We've done that before on different things.10300:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,040We've done it with the whole family.10400:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,480But I actually thought it could be good for us to bring up a topic.10500:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,360We could do that. That would be I would love to do that.10600:08:22,360 --> 00:08:23,880So we need to plan that.10700:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,800So in light of all that, with you standing up there, I thought,10800:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,120I need to have you up here every Sunday just as kind of to greet the church,10900:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,920because we have a lot of our church is growing right now.11000:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,680We have a lot of new people, a lot of new people.11100:08:35,680 --> 00:08:38,400So it's impossible to get to everybody.11200:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,160So not everybody knows that that pretty blonde on the front rows.11300:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,680But they do, because you bring me up every service.11400:08:43,680 --> 00:08:47,720Well, I do talk about you a lot because remember, it's Jimmy and Annette, not Jimmy or Annette.11500:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,920Right. And there's a reason for that.11600:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,520I know. And it's warred off any potential weirdness.11700:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,160So, yeah, present a united front.11800:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,400But that's just the way we roll.11900:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,600And we've rolled this way for almost 31 years, November 20th.12000:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,480I can't believe you can remember the date.12100:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,280I can't remember my phone number, but I can remember our anniversary and your birthday.12200:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,680So, wow, I'm impressed.12300:09:09,680 --> 00:09:11,040Thank you. I'm married up.12400:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,640I'm married up. You always say you married up.12500:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,640But I'm married up. Well, we both married up.12600:09:15,640 --> 00:09:16,880How's that? There you go.12700:09:16,880 --> 00:09:17,960That's how it's supposed to work.12800:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,320We both we both when you both feel that way, that's a good thing.12900:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,720Good thing in a marriage.13000:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,320Well, the name of our podcast, like I mentioned earlier, but it's living up in a down world.13100:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,480And really, that's the heart of what this is about.13200:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,080We recognize that sometimes the world can be very dark.13300:09:33,080 --> 00:09:38,360And right now in the in the season or in history that we're in right now,13400:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,840it seems like it's darker than it's ever been in my lifetime.13500:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,920Now, I could be wrong. I could have forgotten things.13600:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,400But it just seems like a lot of things have been a lot of older people that said13700:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,800they have never experienced anything like that in their lifetime.13800:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,000And I mean, you know, the pandemic scammed in it,13900:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,440scammed in a pandemic, whatever it is, whatever it was when that came.14000:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,840I mean, that's nothing that was unprecedented in our time.14100:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,800We've never had government mandated lockdowns and stuff.14200:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,320It was like, whoa, this just we just turned into a dystopian future.14300:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,640And that was really freaky and unsettling.14400:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,920And it really traumatized our the world.14500:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,160And so coming out of that, we've had cultural trauma.14600:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,280So it's a dark world. It's a down world right now.14700:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,720It feels that way.14800:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,480But there's always bright spots and there's always amazing things going on.14900:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,800And God's everywhere working in all kinds of things.15000:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,240We say as lands on the move.15100:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,080And as a Christian, we don't have to live that way.15200:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,680When you're not a Christian, you don't know any better.15300:10:38,680 --> 00:10:42,000You don't know that there's there's something better out there15400:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,600that can give you the hope that can give you joy, that can give you peace.15500:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,240You're kind of a victim to your circumstances.15600:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,040But when you have Jesus, it changes everything.15700:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,920Let's talk about Jesus for a minute.15800:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,760Because really, that's what we're about.15900:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,280That is the core of who we are.16000:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,800We cannot not talk about Jesus.16100:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,400Oh, we had Tina and Adam over last night for dinner and all we talked about.16200:11:03,400 --> 00:11:08,480I like three hours of talking about Jesus and what God is up to.16300:11:08,480 --> 00:11:14,800And for those of you who don't know, Adam and Tina Curry are two dearest friends on the planet.16400:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,400We've been walking together, all of us together on our spiritual journeys.16500:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,440They began walking their journey, what, two years ago?16600:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,840Was it about two years?16700:11:23,840 --> 00:11:24,800A year and a half, two years.16800:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,800A year and a half to two years ago.16900:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,440And then they moved to Fredericksburg.17000:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,200And then we met.17100:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,680It's a long story, so I'll keep it short.17200:11:32,680 --> 00:11:34,520But we've just become best friends.17300:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,200So we hang out and we do life together.17400:11:36,200 --> 00:11:45,800And we threw some steaks on the pellet grill and did a carnivore dinner for us meat eaters.17500:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,640And then we had some food for them as well.17600:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,760But we talked.17700:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,000It was God talk.17800:11:51,000 --> 00:11:51,520It was wonderful.17900:11:51,520 --> 00:11:52,600God conversations.18000:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,440We have such a good time when we're with them.18100:11:54,440 --> 00:11:55,440We do.18200:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,400I think I'm the most relaxed with them.18300:11:58,400 --> 00:11:59,960I had my house shoes on.18400:11:59,960 --> 00:12:01,840Girl, you had the fuzzy house shoes on.18500:12:01,840 --> 00:12:02,640You were rocking those.18600:12:02,640 --> 00:12:03,720And I was wearing a hoodie.18700:12:03,720 --> 00:12:04,280I know.18800:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,600Well, so was Adam.18900:12:06,600 --> 00:12:11,480We're finally getting so comfortable with each other that we can just...19000:12:11,480 --> 00:12:12,520We don't have to...19100:12:12,520 --> 00:12:18,360Well, of course, she was all dressed up, which I didn't understand why she stayed in her19200:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,000Sunday clothes.19300:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,120Well, talk about Sunday, as a matter of fact, in terms of Adam and Tina.19400:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,800Because Adam, this was week two for Adam.19500:12:26,800 --> 00:12:27,880He gets to come to church.19600:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,080To actually be in services with us.19700:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,800We have two services back to back.19800:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,720We do a nine o'clock and a 1045.19900:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,640And Tina has been coming for a year and a half.20000:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,160I mean, she's been committed and involved.20100:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,920And she sits with you on the front row.20200:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,000And so we always see Tina in the second service.20300:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,680Always.20400:12:46,680 --> 00:12:50,680But what Adam does, because he does his podcast, No Agenda, by the way, if you want to know20500:12:50,680 --> 00:12:55,960what's going on in the world right now, three and a half hours, two dimes a week on Sunday20600:12:55,960 --> 00:13:00,160and Thursday, look up No Agenda with Adam Curry and John Dvorak.20700:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,920Fantastic, hardcore podcast.20800:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,040No, they don't pull any punches.20900:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,920They do poke a lot of fun at media and they do a lot of media deconstruction and what's21000:13:10,920 --> 00:13:11,920going on in the world.21100:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,160And it's just, it's a great viewpoint.21200:13:14,160 --> 00:13:15,560I love listening to the show.21300:13:15,560 --> 00:13:18,700I can't do the full seven hours a week.21400:13:18,700 --> 00:13:21,880So I spot listen to it here and there when I'm driving and whatnot.21500:13:21,880 --> 00:13:26,320But I've learned so much from Adam just about how the just how things are going on in the21600:13:26,320 --> 00:13:27,320world.21700:13:27,320 --> 00:13:28,320Very helpful.21800:13:28,320 --> 00:13:29,320It's a great viewpoint.21900:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,320I love that.22000:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,720But he does that show at one o'clock on Sunday and he's done this for 15, 16 years.22100:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,200He stood at 11.22200:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,800They bumped it back to one few years ago.22300:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,400So they've been doing this 15, 16 years.22400:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,200They've had 1600 plus episodes.22500:13:44,200 --> 00:13:45,200Can you believe that?22600:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,200Wow.22700:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,200All long.22800:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,200I mean, all three, two, three hour.22900:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,200Unbelievable.23000:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,440But it would they do it two times, two times a week.23100:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,240Like I said, Sunday and Thursday.23200:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,240Yeah.23300:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,240So that's a lot.23400:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,240Yeah, it is a lot.23500:13:57,240 --> 00:13:58,480A lot of air time.23600:13:58,480 --> 00:14:04,600So he has been feeling like the Lord has kind of been drawn him to try to reconfigure his23700:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,600schedule again.23800:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,600He's been in this group for a long time so that he get to church.23900:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,360And he was a little concerned about him.24000:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,240Can I get my prep time in?24100:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,120Because he has a lot of preparation to do this show.24200:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,600It's a fast moving show.24300:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,280Lot of content.24400:14:20,280 --> 00:14:26,000And so he and I did a bro date a couple of weeks ago.24500:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,400And he said, yeah, he said, I'll see you tomorrow.24600:14:28,400 --> 00:14:29,400I thought, what?24700:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,400Okay.24800:14:30,400 --> 00:14:31,400And he did.24900:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,960So anyway, this was week two and it was so cool to see Adam and Tina together on a Sunday25000:14:35,960 --> 00:14:36,960morning.25100:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,760Maybe the first time, second time I've ever seen them there together.25200:14:39,760 --> 00:14:40,760On a Sunday morning.25300:14:40,760 --> 00:14:41,760First time.25400:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,880So anyway, that's just a huge win because and he said he feels like he's doing better25500:14:46,880 --> 00:14:52,280at his show because it feels like God's compensating and whatever he sacrifices to be there, it's25600:14:52,280 --> 00:14:53,280like it's all good.25700:14:53,280 --> 00:14:54,280So cool.25800:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,280So good.25900:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,280We love those guys.26000:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,520We talk about them a lot because you talk about the things you love the most.26100:14:59,520 --> 00:15:00,520And so we talk about them a lot.26200:15:00,520 --> 00:15:01,960That's a good way to put it.26300:15:01,960 --> 00:15:02,960It's true.26400:15:02,960 --> 00:15:03,960I mean, don't we?26500:15:03,960 --> 00:15:04,960That and Carnivore.26600:15:04,960 --> 00:15:05,960Yeah.26700:15:05,960 --> 00:15:06,960Carnivore.26800:15:06,960 --> 00:15:07,960Of which?26900:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,440Of which.27000:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,560You got asked to be on a podcast.27100:15:11,560 --> 00:15:12,560It's Adam.27200:15:12,560 --> 00:15:13,560What's his name?27300:15:13,560 --> 00:15:14,560I'm going to look up his name.27400:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,040His name is Adam, but it's not Adam Curry.27500:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,240He's a big time Carnivore guy.27600:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,120And man, I love this guy.27700:15:23,120 --> 00:15:29,960He and I, we connected on a platform for Dr. Ken Berry that we're a part of, we're members27800:15:29,960 --> 00:15:30,960of that.27900:15:30,960 --> 00:15:36,000And we connected through that and just turns out he's a believer and we just have just28000:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,000hit it off.28100:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,000Can we look him up right now?28200:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,440But his is a, is his podcast video?28300:15:41,440 --> 00:15:42,440Yes.28400:15:42,440 --> 00:15:43,440It's a video.28500:15:43,440 --> 00:15:44,440Okay.28600:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,440So you're going to be on a video.28700:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,440It's a YouTube channel.28800:15:46,440 --> 00:15:47,440Okay.28900:15:47,440 --> 00:15:48,440So.29000:15:48,440 --> 00:15:53,040So you're going to be talking about total life wellness.29100:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,360So you'll be talking about Jesus.29200:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,360Super stoked.29300:15:55,360 --> 00:16:00,960You're going to be talking about Carnivore, what it's done to us, you know, for us physically29400:16:00,960 --> 00:16:01,960and mentally.29500:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,760And what else are you going to be talking about?29600:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,440Mind, body, spirit, mind, mental, mental health, and just balance.29700:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,720So his name is Adam Lacey and he has a great YouTube channel.29800:16:13,720 --> 00:16:14,720What's it called?29900:16:14,720 --> 00:16:15,720I'm going to look it up.30000:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,680I'm juggling a lot of things here cause you caught me off guard with that.30100:16:18,680 --> 00:16:19,680Sorry.30200:16:19,680 --> 00:16:20,680It's okay.30300:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,200Well, you just brought that on me.30400:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,200So I was like, okay.30500:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,480Well, I just talked to him today and so we scheduled, I think I'm going to be on a show.30600:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,320We're going to do the interview next Wednesday.30700:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,840It's an hour long and he just wants to hear about our carnivore journey and you and me30800:16:33,840 --> 00:16:39,280and our progress and what we're learning along the way and just to encourage others.30900:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,160And I was going to look up his.31000:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,040I know Carrie talks about it a lot, but I can't remember what.31100:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,040Yeah.31200:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,720From home said how is it called a handle?31300:16:48,720 --> 00:16:49,720Is that what you call it?31400:16:49,720 --> 00:16:50,720Or is it just the name of your show?31500:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,440Just the name of the show.31600:16:52,440 --> 00:16:53,440Okay.31700:16:53,440 --> 00:16:54,440Name of your channel.31800:16:54,440 --> 00:17:00,160Oh man, I'm really do not like that.31900:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,160Well, that's okay.32000:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,160You can figure it out.32100:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,160Yeah.32200:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,160It's carnivore something.32300:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,440Anyway, Adam Lacey's name.32400:17:08,440 --> 00:17:09,440So I'll get the name.32500:17:09,440 --> 00:17:10,440Yeah.32600:17:10,440 --> 00:17:11,440Cool.32700:17:11,440 --> 00:17:12,440I'll talk about it.32800:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,240It'd be good for our listeners to listen to that story.32900:17:15,240 --> 00:17:16,240Yeah.33000:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,960It's just a journey that we're on and it's kind of an elimination.33100:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,840We're kind of on an elimination diet of our whole total life.33200:17:23,840 --> 00:17:24,840Total life.33300:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,760And it kind of leads us into our topic today, doesn't it?33400:17:26,760 --> 00:17:27,760Exactly.33500:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,760And so I want to share some scripture with you.33600:17:29,760 --> 00:17:34,360Just two verses that have been this morning when I got up, I always do a daily devotional.33700:17:34,360 --> 00:17:35,840I've written it for over 20 years.33800:17:35,840 --> 00:17:41,800I have about five to 6,000 entries that I've written independent.33900:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,360I write them every day, maybe two or three, four times a year.34000:17:45,360 --> 00:17:52,400I might find an old one and refurbish it, but typically, you know, most every 360 out34100:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,600of the 365 are all hot off the press every morning.34200:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,980And I've done this for a long time.34300:17:58,980 --> 00:18:06,440So today I wrote one called Monday Momentum, or Momentum Monday.34400:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,680And as I was looking through scriptures, I calmed the word.34500:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,920I get my Bible and I just different ways I'm looking for scripture.34600:18:14,920 --> 00:18:19,880You don't get a Bible and point to it and say, okay, this is the scripture that I'm34700:18:19,880 --> 00:18:20,880supposed to do.34800:18:20,880 --> 00:18:21,880Not quite, but not far off.34900:18:21,880 --> 00:18:22,880Sometimes I'll flip through my Bible.35000:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,880But if it says, you know, like, go sacrifice, you're not going to.35100:18:26,880 --> 00:18:27,880No, no, no.35200:18:27,880 --> 00:18:28,880Yeah.35300:18:28,880 --> 00:18:29,880Oh yeah.35400:18:29,880 --> 00:18:30,880Some crazy stuff.35500:18:30,880 --> 00:18:31,880No, I just flipped through my Bible.35600:18:31,880 --> 00:18:32,880My Bible's all highlighted up.35700:18:32,880 --> 00:18:33,880I was going to say you have a lot of highlights.35800:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,600Things that stand out to me.35900:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,040So this morning I was looking and I found, I just came upon the scripture.36000:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,360It really jumped out at me.36100:18:41,360 --> 00:18:42,360It says this.36200:18:42,360 --> 00:18:51,080Matthew chapter 7 verses 13 and 14 says, enter through the narrow gate for wide is the gate36300:18:51,080 --> 00:18:57,740and broad is the road that leads to destruction and many enter through it.36400:18:57,740 --> 00:18:58,740That's pretty heavy.36500:18:58,740 --> 00:18:59,740It is.36600:18:59,740 --> 00:19:04,360Talking about the road is narrow, the gate is narrow, the path is narrow.36700:19:04,360 --> 00:19:08,360And, you know, you hear people use that in their language about, yeah, I'm on the narrow36800:19:08,360 --> 00:19:09,360path, you know.36900:19:09,360 --> 00:19:11,560Yeah, I've taken the narrow way.37000:19:11,560 --> 00:19:12,560So what does that mean?37100:19:12,560 --> 00:19:13,560Yeah.37200:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,360Well, let me read the second verse because that'll give some, shed some light on the37300:19:16,360 --> 00:19:17,600first.37400:19:17,600 --> 00:19:25,760But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life and only a few find it.37500:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,800So you've got a narrow gate that leads to life.37600:19:27,800 --> 00:19:32,520You've got a wide and broad road that leads to destruction.37700:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,240And what that speaks to, it speaks to the things.37800:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,640Okay, I was talking about an elimination diet, right?37900:19:38,640 --> 00:19:44,620And so in terms of carnivore, doing a carnivore, keto or whatever, you begin to eliminate things38000:19:44,620 --> 00:19:45,800that you deem…38100:19:45,800 --> 00:19:46,800Any kind of diet you're eliminating.38200:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,200Yeah, any kind of diet.38300:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,160You're eliminating things that you think are not good for you.38400:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,880So I just call it eliminate and concentrate.38500:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,880So you eliminate the non-essentials, concentrate on the essentials, right?38600:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,740Well, we do this spiritually too, mind, body, spirit.38700:20:00,740 --> 00:20:08,040And so what we have been doing starting last February when you came back from a conference,38800:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,640we cut out, we just cut something away.38900:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,000And it's sort of like if you're in a hot air balloon and it's not getting any altitude,39000:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,000they cut sandbags.39100:20:17,000 --> 00:20:22,240You know, they can increase the flame, but they also can have…sometimes have dead weight39200:20:22,240 --> 00:20:27,200on that and they can throw off that weight and it'll, you know, it'll get more altitude.39300:20:27,200 --> 00:20:32,160And I feel like what the path that God's had us on is a narrow path.39400:20:32,160 --> 00:20:37,120It's not for everybody and we wouldn't tell everybody to do this either, especially39500:20:37,120 --> 00:20:40,280the things that we feel like God has eliminated out of our life.39600:20:40,280 --> 00:20:45,080Because for one, the Holy Spirit needs to be the one to tell people, not us.39700:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,000We just share what God is doing in our life.39800:20:48,000 --> 00:20:54,080And then hopefully, you know, people will ask, Lord, what is it that you want to eliminate39900:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,360out of my life?40000:20:55,360 --> 00:20:56,360Exactly.40100:20:56,360 --> 00:20:57,400So that's what we've been doing.40200:20:57,400 --> 00:21:03,120And then we had our sabbatical and that was a good time to kind of eliminate and say,40300:21:03,120 --> 00:21:05,960okay, Lord, what is it that's this non-essential?40400:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,880And it's not even bad things.40500:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,680You know, we were watching a lot of TV back in the day.40600:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,520I mean, that just kind of became our evening.40700:21:13,520 --> 00:21:19,880TV was always on, buzzing all the time and it just was just noise, background noise.40800:21:19,880 --> 00:21:25,360And so when you came back, we eliminated that and we suddenly discovered we had way more40900:21:25,360 --> 00:21:26,680time than we thought we did.41000:21:26,680 --> 00:21:31,440We had hours and hours and we were always going, okay, we need to watch our shows.41100:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,440We need to watch our shows.41200:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,680Now it's like, what do you want to do?41300:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,400Hey, let's do a podcast.41400:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,280It's almost nine o'clock, you know, it's late at night, you know, because we're traveling41500:21:40,280 --> 00:21:41,720it, we're day off.41600:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,480But yeah, but we have time to do it.41700:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,480Normally we'd be in there fighting over which show we're going to watch.41800:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,880And so this elimination, this carving things out of your life.41900:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,080So when I look at this scripture, enter through the narrow gate, and then it says, for wide42000:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,720is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction and many enter through it.42100:22:00,720 --> 00:22:01,720That's a wide path.42200:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,560It means there's a lot of people going down that path.42300:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,720But isn't it talking about heaven and hell?42400:22:07,720 --> 00:22:08,720I mean, it is.42500:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,320It's righteousness and unrighteousness.42600:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,080It's right and wrong, up and down.42700:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,120Because narrow is the road to heaven.42800:22:15,120 --> 00:22:18,920And there's a lot of people that think they're going to heaven because they go to church42900:22:18,920 --> 00:22:25,520or they, you know, have memorized John 3 16 or whatever.43000:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,240Yeah, they went to Sunday school and they were a kid.43100:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,240Exactly.43200:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,240Yeah.43300:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,160And you know, I think that what's happening in our world right now, so we got a lot of43400:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,440crazy things happening, right?43500:22:33,440 --> 00:22:39,520I mean, with Israel, Hamas, you know, the Ukraine debacle, all this stuff, Afghanistan43600:22:39,520 --> 00:22:44,520debacle, all these things that happened, the political gameplay and I call it the clown43700:22:44,520 --> 00:22:45,520show.43800:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,080I mean, you might as well just get some popcorn and watch it because it's crazy right now43900:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,440and dramatic and just out of it.44000:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,440Popcorn's not on our carnival.44100:22:52,440 --> 00:22:53,440It is not.44200:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,440We would not.44300:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,440We would get bacon chips.44400:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,960No, we'd fry up a whole pound of bacon and little chips and eat it like candy.44500:22:59,960 --> 00:23:02,640So that's the world we live in.44600:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,640It's a clown show.44700:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,040It's crazy right now.44800:23:05,040 --> 00:23:13,880And so this idea of getting away from that and pulling back from that to say, I don't44900:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,320have to participate in everything and all the craziness of the world.45000:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,280There's got to be a better way.45100:23:20,280 --> 00:23:26,440And so this narrow gate, this narrow road means that you may not, it may not be highly45200:23:26,440 --> 00:23:27,440populated.45300:23:27,440 --> 00:23:32,920There may not be that many people who want to get that serious about their walk with45400:23:32,920 --> 00:23:33,920God.45500:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,840And this is not to beat anybody up.45600:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,120It's that we need an awakening.45700:23:39,120 --> 00:23:41,160The church needs to wake up.45800:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,160Right.45900:23:42,160 --> 00:23:48,720And I think that we've kind of used God like an addendum to our life instead of, you know,46000:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,240He's throughout our life every day.46100:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,440I mean, He's the center of our life.46200:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,320But a lot of times it's the addendum.46300:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,800It's like, oh, we got to go to church.46400:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,360So, oh yeah, we need to.46500:24:01,360 --> 00:24:03,680Let me find my Bible.46600:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,720You know, because I don't know where it is because I don't read it.46700:24:06,720 --> 00:24:13,240Or you know, I mean, so many people are caught up.46800:24:13,240 --> 00:24:23,240They have so much stress in their life and with work, with family issues, addictions,46900:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,240so many things.47000:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,240Overwhelmed.47100:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,120Yeah, and they're overwhelmed.47200:24:29,120 --> 00:24:32,320It's a hard life for people.47300:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,120You and I have had many, many conversations through the years.47400:24:36,120 --> 00:24:41,920I remember, I won't say their last name, but a lady named Kathy.47500:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,640Back when we were in another town pastoring, I remember her at one of our small groups,47600:24:46,640 --> 00:24:51,680we were talking about, you know, worship music on in the house and having the word, maybe47700:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,440playing, you know, the scripture.47800:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,480And she said, I have to do this.47900:24:56,480 --> 00:25:03,960If I, I literally have to have the word of God worship 24 hours a day.48000:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,120If I don't, I can't make it.48100:25:06,120 --> 00:25:10,480Because she had been through some horrific trauma and abuse.48200:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,560And she was out of that situation.48300:25:12,560 --> 00:25:18,480But the residual pain and suffering that she continued to deal with, because it was so48400:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,480bad.48500:25:19,480 --> 00:25:24,360She said, the only way I can survive is to stay close to Jesus.48600:25:24,360 --> 00:25:25,960There's no other way.48700:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,160And the truth is, she's right.48800:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,000But she's not right just for someone who's been traumatized.48900:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,320She's right for everyone.49000:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,320All of us.49100:25:33,320 --> 00:25:41,440I know for me, you and I, we can barely, we have to listen to worship music all the time.49200:25:41,440 --> 00:25:46,160I mean, we need it because I need mine.49300:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,280I can't, let me put it this way.49400:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,080When I became a follower of Jesus, I went all in.49500:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,600I didn't want to play games.49600:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,120I didn't want to be a hypocrite.49700:25:56,120 --> 00:25:59,760Because I'd met a lot of those folks before I was a Christian.49800:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,440So at 19 years of age, when I stepped over the line, I went way opposite.49900:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,320I'm never going back.50000:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,320This is it.50100:26:06,320 --> 00:26:12,560There is no plan B. This is only plan A. No B, no C. No options, no trap door.50200:26:12,560 --> 00:26:13,600I'm going all the way in.50300:26:13,600 --> 00:26:19,280And so that's how I have lived my life since that time.50400:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,560And it is a narrow road.50500:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,640It can be lonely sometimes because not all your friends want to talk about Jesus all50600:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,640the time.50700:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,940Not all your friends want to talk about the kingdom of God, the strategy for winning the50800:26:32,940 --> 00:26:36,240world to Jesus Christ, which is what we're all called to do.50900:26:36,240 --> 00:26:42,960But it's remarkable how few people really have gone all in, to be honest.51000:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,200And so it is a narrow path.51100:26:45,200 --> 00:26:51,640And sometimes it feels like during COVID, when you would go somewhere and there were51200:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,800no cars on the road, you're like, oh my gosh, has the second coming happened and I missed51300:26:55,800 --> 00:26:56,800it?51400:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,200Jesus airlift everybody out and I got left behind.51500:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,880It's creepy sometimes because I've been in a grocery store where for whatever reason51600:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,240in that moment in time, there's hardly anybody in the store.51700:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,480And it's a weird feeling.51800:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,200But that's how sometimes life has felt for me, to be honest.51900:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,680I've got a lot of surface friends.52000:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,480I've got a lot of acquaintances.52100:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,800I love doing life with people.52200:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,200I'm a people person.52300:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,560But in terms of going deep on a consistent basis, very few.52400:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,600It is a narrow road.52500:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,600It really is.52600:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,920It really, really is.52700:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,120We've had people that wanted to hang out with us and be our friends, but when they were52800:27:34,120 --> 00:27:40,240around us a few times and all we wanted to talk about was God.52900:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,920You know what I'm saying.53000:27:41,920 --> 00:27:42,920We have other conversations.53100:27:42,920 --> 00:27:43,920Of course we do.53200:27:43,920 --> 00:27:54,280I'm looking around your room and you have what, 10 guitars hanging up in the studio?53300:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,280Nine.53400:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,280Oh, okay.53500:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,280Nine.53600:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,280Only nine.53700:27:58,280 --> 00:28:09,320So you have, it's not like every minute you're in the scriptures, but you weave God into53800:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,520every conversation.53900:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,680Because God created the world.54000:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,680He created music.54100:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,640Oh, did He create music?54200:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,640I can't not do that.54300:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,640Exactly.54400:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,440So it does make you, it is a narrow road.54500:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,680I mean, when I look at that scripture, I go, I get that.54600:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,640I think we've lost our wonder.54700:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,200Our sense of awe and wonder.54800:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,200Yes.54900:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,200Wow.55000:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,200Explain that a little bit.55100:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,200That's a beautiful thing.55200:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,200It just came to my mind.55300:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,000Because I remember Tina was talking yesterday about her trip that she just got back.55400:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,000The Narrows.55500:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,680From Utah.55600:28:43,680 --> 00:28:49,800And she said it was just, it was so breathtaking and so spectacular.55700:28:49,800 --> 00:28:50,800The beauty.55800:28:50,800 --> 00:28:51,800Right.55900:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,560And it made me think about where did that come from?56000:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,760Well, obviously it came from God.56100:28:58,760 --> 00:29:04,000And where is our wonder of the things that God has created?56200:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,720You know, I think about just even today, we were talking about our marriage because we're56300:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,960about to go on this week trip in Thanksgiving.56400:29:12,960 --> 00:29:13,960That's just you and I.56500:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,720It was a gift.56600:29:16,720 --> 00:29:25,520And so to me, I'm in awe of having a good marriage because of what we've had in the56700:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,520past.56800:29:26,520 --> 00:29:27,520Right.56900:29:27,520 --> 00:29:34,120I relish in the fact that God has given me a wonderful man and wonderful children, wonderful57000:29:34,120 --> 00:29:42,440family, and I don't take for granted what we have together as a couple.57100:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,480It's because we put God number one.57200:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,560And if we didn't, I don't know where we'd be, honestly.57300:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,560If we would be.57400:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,560Exactly.57500:29:50,560 --> 00:29:51,560Exactly.57600:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,920It's that critical for us.57700:29:52,920 --> 00:29:53,920It is.57800:29:53,920 --> 00:29:54,920Yeah.57900:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,200Gosh, I agree with that.58000:29:56,200 --> 00:30:03,680And when you lose your awe and you lose your wonder, you lose that childlike innocence.58100:30:03,680 --> 00:30:04,880And the world can do that.58200:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,160Man, it's a hard world out there and it can.58300:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,640It can beat the crap out of you.58400:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,640It can make you hard.58500:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,360It can make you jaded.58600:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,440How many people have we met that are jaded against life?58700:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,920And it's tragic because they can't find joy.58800:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,960They can't find life and laughter and kidlike.58900:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,960And I was with our worship team on Sunday morning.59000:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,120I played on Sunday morning on the worship team and I was real excited.59100:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,120We had great songs.59200:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,440It's a great set.59300:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,720So I was really pumped about it.59400:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,040But I was telling our team, we gather for prayer before the first service.59500:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,400We do two services back to back.59600:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,320And I was like, guys, let's just play in the presence of our Father.59700:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,560Let's just play.59800:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,560Be playful.59900:30:45,560 --> 00:30:55,040And one of the songs we sang yesterday is so…one of my favorite songs, Brandon Lake's song,60000:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,040Gratitude.60100:30:56,040 --> 00:31:01,120And here we are coming up on Thanksgiving, which I don't think about gratitude and60200:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,960Thanksgiving only on Thanksgiving.60300:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,120But we are coming up on that.60400:31:06,120 --> 00:31:16,920And if we could just have gratitude and Thanksgiving at this time, that is the key to happiness.60500:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,920Oh, it is.60600:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,920No doubt.60700:31:18,920 --> 00:31:27,000Having gratitude in life, if you have to look for it, even in the midst of turmoil and horrendous60800:31:27,000 --> 00:31:35,280circumstances, find that one thing that you can be grateful for.60900:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,920If you can't find anything else, then just think about that.61000:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,720That's all you need to do is think about that.61100:31:40,720 --> 00:31:48,080And God will give you more things and He'll put them into your heart so that you can think61200:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,520on those things.61300:31:49,520 --> 00:31:58,200And to me, Thanksgiving is one of my favorite holidays because I think gratitude is the61400:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,200key, period.61500:31:59,200 --> 00:32:04,600You know, I think something you said, I disconnected the dots on this, but just in this conversation61600:32:04,600 --> 00:32:10,560is that awe and wonder, actually, gratitude is a part of that.61700:32:10,560 --> 00:32:15,640You can't be in awe of something without saying, oh, God, this is amazing.61800:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,240Oh, thank you, God.61900:32:17,240 --> 00:32:22,440I mean, I'll step out on the back porch at night, you know, let Mr. Chevy do his thing62000:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,000before we go to bed.62100:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,640And there's a massive cross on a hill across the highway from us and it's on a way high62200:32:28,640 --> 00:32:29,640hill.62300:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,720You can't see the highway.62400:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,680All you see are trees, hills, and this massive cross.62500:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,200And it's called the Happy H Ranch.62600:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,000And everybody who comes to Frederick's, we're, hey, there's a big cross on the hill out62700:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,000there.62800:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,000We live out by that cross.62900:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,920And so when I see that at night and it's lit up two nights ago, three nights ago, I took63000:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,880Chevy out and the moon was a full moon.63100:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,960I mean, full bore.63200:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,640It was as full moon as I've ever seen.63300:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,600And there were some clouds around it, but it was clear where the moon was.63400:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,080And so it was coming through really strong.63500:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,560And there was a big planet right next to it.63600:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,120So and it was all right over the cross.63700:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,120Wow.63800:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,160Almost came and got you because I'm that way.63900:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,640Did you not take a picture?64000:33:09,640 --> 00:33:15,480I didn't have my phone in my pocket and my iPhone doesn't take good night shots of me.64100:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,120I got to figure out how to do that.64200:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,280I don't know.64300:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,560So for whatever reason, I'll take one.64400:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,240It's like, that looks terrible.64500:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,240Doesn't do justice.64600:33:23,240 --> 00:33:29,000But anyway, I captured the thought in my mind and I was so full of wonder and I was all64700:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,040I could say was, thank you, Lord.64800:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,440This is, I just kept going.64900:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,440Wow.65000:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,440Wow.65100:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,040I mean, because literally out loud, because what I do when I step out on the back porch,65200:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,840I don't know if you ever heard me do this.65300:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,560I'll say good evening, Holy Spirit.65400:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,880I've never heard you do it.65500:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,280Good evening, Lord Jesus, Yeshua.65600:33:45,280 --> 00:33:50,400And then I'll say good evening, Abba Father.65700:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,640So I do that every night when I'll go out and take him out there and I'll just say a65800:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,240prayer, a brief prayer, just usually as I'm looking up at that cross.65900:33:58,240 --> 00:34:03,360And when we were looking at this house to buy four years ago, I stepped out on the back66000:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,520porch and I saw that cross and I thought, if for no other reason.66100:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,360Well, it's funny because where we came from was Cross Mountain.66200:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,360I know.66300:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,280And that was the area we lived in and there was a cross on the hill in Fredericksburg66400:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,880and then we moved out here and there was a cross on a hill right across from us.66500:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,160And when we lived in Abilene.66600:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,960We lived on King's Cross Street.66700:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,960I know.66800:34:23,960 --> 00:34:24,960There is something about that.66900:34:24,960 --> 00:34:25,960There is something about that.67000:34:25,960 --> 00:34:26,960I don't know.67100:34:26,960 --> 00:34:27,960It's just wild.67200:34:27,960 --> 00:34:28,960It's uncanny.67300:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,160And yet when we're looking at houses, we're not thinking about the cross.67400:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,160It just happens.67500:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,160No.67600:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,160It was there.67700:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,160It's just amazing.67800:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,720And every night I walk out and every morning it's such a reminder.67900:34:37,720 --> 00:34:39,640It's the wonder of God.68000:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,000It is wonder.68100:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,020There was a picture that Tina sent from the Narrows.68200:34:44,020 --> 00:34:47,280Do you remember the one where she's looking up and she looks like a little girl?68300:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,280She does.68400:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,280She looks like a 10 year old looking up.68500:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,280She is awestruck.68600:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,880I love that picture because I see that on her face in worship too.68700:34:55,880 --> 00:35:02,600And I love people that have that childlike gaze that when something amazes them and they're68800:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,520awestruck, they have that look.68900:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,760And Tina does that a lot.69000:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,760She does.69100:35:06,760 --> 00:35:12,640She's just a childlike, not childish, childlike in a beautiful way of being awestruck.69200:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,520And so it's true.69300:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,520The awe of God.69400:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,800But awe of God, it precipitates gratitude, doesn't it?69500:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,800It does.69600:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,720But it also precipitates joy.69700:35:21,720 --> 00:35:27,920That's how you live up in a bad world, a down world.69800:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,040And I'm not negative like, oh, the whole world's going to hell in a handbasket.69900:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,040No, I'm not that.70000:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,640I'm not that at all.70100:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,700When I say down, I just mean we live.70200:35:35,700 --> 00:35:39,920It's a playoff of the Genesis narrative that we live in a fallen world.70300:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,880So that's why I call it a down world.70400:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,240It's fallen.70500:35:43,240 --> 00:35:46,520And so it's not a knock or a critique of the world.70600:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,760It's just a biblical expression.70700:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,560It's just saying it in a little different way.70800:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,800So but the idea is that we can live up and the way we do that is through awe.70900:35:54,800 --> 00:36:00,840It's through wonder, which leads to gratitude and joy.71000:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,960Don't you just love being around joyful people?71100:36:02,960 --> 00:36:03,960Yes.71200:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,080And I love that word joyful means full of joy.71300:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,840And when you get around somebody like that, you want to stay around them.71400:36:09,840 --> 00:36:10,840Yeah.71500:36:10,840 --> 00:36:11,840Yeah, that's right.71600:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,640I think that's why I like hanging with Adam.71700:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,640Yeah.71800:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,640He's joyful.71900:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,640All the time.72000:36:16,640 --> 00:36:17,640Oh, man.72100:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,640I don't think I've ever seen him in a bad mood.72200:36:19,640 --> 00:36:20,640Ever.72300:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,640Not for more than 10 seconds.72400:36:22,640 --> 00:36:23,640Yeah.72500:36:23,640 --> 00:36:24,640Yeah.72600:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,040He's just a joyful guy.72700:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,240It's an interesting guy.72800:36:28,240 --> 00:36:29,240Yeah.72900:36:29,240 --> 00:36:30,240He really is.73000:36:30,240 --> 00:36:31,240Love it.73100:36:31,240 --> 00:36:32,240Love it.73200:36:32,240 --> 00:36:33,240Very good.73300:36:33,240 --> 00:36:34,240What do you think?73400:36:34,240 --> 00:36:36,080What do you think in your mind's going?73500:36:36,080 --> 00:36:41,640I'm looking at these scriptures as we're talking because of it's so many.73600:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,440It's just the golden rules right before that.73700:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,800So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you for this sums up the law73800:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,280and prophets enter through the narrow gate.73900:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,280It's all part of the same flow.74000:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,280Narrative.74100:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,280Yeah.74200:36:56,280 --> 00:37:02,760I think my heart is broken for people who are entering the wide gate and going down74300:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,880the broad road because it's easy to go with the crowd.74400:37:07,880 --> 00:37:13,080It's easy to go with the flow of people and just get in the flow.74500:37:13,080 --> 00:37:18,560It's like when you're driving in fast traffic in Dallas, Fort Worth or Houston or San Antonio74600:37:18,560 --> 00:37:23,800or wherever and you get in that fast track lane and you normally don't drive that fast,74700:37:23,800 --> 00:37:29,640but you suddenly find yourself doing 87 through town because the whole flow of traffic is74800:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,040going 87 miles an hour.74900:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,200You just get caught up in it.75000:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,040You look down at your speedometer, you're just going with traffic.75100:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,840You're like 87 miles an hour.75200:37:37,840 --> 00:37:38,840We're going, whoa.75300:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,400No wonder I got through Dallas so fast.75400:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,400But you get caught up in the flow.75500:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,800Get caught up in that stream.75600:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,080But it happens in every arena of life.75700:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,520We get caught up in things.75800:37:51,520 --> 00:37:59,600Right now, a lot of the signals that we're getting from the world is saying down is up,75900:37:59,600 --> 00:38:06,480up is down, left is right, right is left, good is bad, bad is good.76000:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,080Everything is topsy-turvy right now.76100:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,080Cancel culture.76200:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,080Oh my gosh.76300:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,080Unbelievable.76400:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,080Yeah.76500:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,080Ghosting people.76600:38:13,080 --> 00:38:20,200I mean, there's so much darkness happening and it's confusing and it's chaotic.76700:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,240It's like the world's in a frenzy right now.76800:38:23,240 --> 00:38:24,360Spun up.76900:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,360Everybody's spun up.77000:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,360Gosh.77100:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,640You've got to find, you've got to get out of that flow.77200:38:30,640 --> 00:38:31,640You've got to get out of that stream.77300:38:31,640 --> 00:38:32,640You've got to take a step back.77400:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,640You've got to find Jesus.77500:38:33,640 --> 00:38:34,640That's it.77600:38:34,640 --> 00:38:35,640You've got to find Jesus.77700:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,640There is no other way.77800:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,880There is no other answer.77900:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,120We're looking for something that we don't know what we're looking for.78000:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,840So we're finding things in the world, but that's not making us happy.78100:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,760No, it's all temporal and it only lasts for a short time.78200:38:50,760 --> 00:38:57,520Remember after you went through your divorce and you went through a period of time, I did78300:38:57,520 --> 00:39:02,280the same thing because we were young.78400:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,280We were damaged.78500:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,280We were damaged.78600:39:04,280 --> 00:39:09,960We were both 29 years old and you separately from me because we didn't know each other78700:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,160at the time, decided, well, let's go.78800:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,920I missed out.78900:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,360This was my thought.79000:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,640I missed out because I got married at 16.79100:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,520So I missed out on the bar scene.79200:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,800I missed out on going to get drinks with the girls after work.79300:39:24,800 --> 00:39:31,200I mean, literally, I told myself, okay, I am going to not go to church on Sundays.79400:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,220I didn't go because I spent time with my friends.79500:39:34,220 --> 00:39:40,600We went out to the lake every weekend and I remember doing that for a couple of months79600:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,960and at first it was fun because sin is fun, I guess.79700:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,080Not that it was sinful, but-79800:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,240We wouldn't want to do it if it wasn't fun.79900:39:49,240 --> 00:39:58,000Exactly, but it was a sin against God because I totally took him out of my life, period.80000:39:58,000 --> 00:40:03,080But I remember after a couple of months, like you, you brought God, you were like, okay,80100:40:03,080 --> 00:40:08,760I did all this with you to your friends when you did the bar scene and all that with them80200:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,400and you're like, okay, now I want you to come with me.80300:40:11,400 --> 00:40:12,400I made him come with me.80400:40:12,400 --> 00:40:13,400And you did.80500:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,080And then we ended up, you and I ended up meeting.80600:40:15,080 --> 00:40:22,680But the thing is, is for me, I remember being, I was just, I was a shell of myself because80700:40:22,680 --> 00:40:28,240I was trying to be something I really wasn't because God didn't create me that way.80800:40:28,240 --> 00:40:34,480I had lived a life serving and loving God, but I totally put him on the shelf for two80900:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,600weeks, two months.81000:40:36,600 --> 00:40:41,040And I'll never forget when I said, I'm not going to go to the lake anymore.81100:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,000I want to go to church.81200:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,440And it was so awesome because my friends that I was going to the lake with every weekend81300:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,120said, well, we'll come to church with you.81400:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,120If I would have known that I would have not gone.81500:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,360It was Karen and Becky, Becky Furrow, remember?81600:40:57,360 --> 00:41:03,520But I remember going back to church and really rededicating my life and heart and saying,81700:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,840God, I am sorry.81800:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,640Okay, I have to ask a timing question.81900:41:08,640 --> 00:41:14,440How long did, what was the timing of that and then when we met at church?82000:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,960Well, very quickly.82100:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,880I mean, we, the timing was probably a couple of months of not going to church and just82200:41:21,880 --> 00:41:27,000totally going out with the, with girls and the guys.82300:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,960And it was probably a couple of months.82400:41:29,960 --> 00:41:36,200And then, gosh, when I started going back, I would probably say I met you within a month.82500:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,200Wow.82600:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,200Yeah.82700:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,200It wasn't long.82800:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,200Yeah.82900:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,640Because God was doing the same work in me.83000:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,600Mine wasn't a two month run from God.83100:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,040It was about a three week run from God.83200:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,600I couldn't run that far and that fast.83300:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,760Well, you were a pastor.83400:41:50,760 --> 00:41:51,760I could see that.83500:41:51,760 --> 00:41:52,760No, it wasn't that.83600:41:52,760 --> 00:41:53,760I know.83700:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,720It's just that I really, I was all in with Jesus and then I tried to ignore that.83800:41:58,720 --> 00:42:02,800But what was your thought process of why you did it in the first place?83900:42:02,800 --> 00:42:09,040For me, it was like, oh, I missed out on my childhood, you know, in my dating life because84000:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,560I got married so young.84100:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,560Wasn't missed out.84200:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,480It was more, I was just...84300:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,800Were you angry with God?84400:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,400I probably was.84500:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,160Probably never admitted it, but I'm sure I was just angry.84600:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,240Like, how could all this happen to me?84700:42:21,240 --> 00:42:24,280How could I lose everything so quickly?84800:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,640And yet I was going to seminary.84900:42:25,640 --> 00:42:26,760I was a youth minister.85000:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,760I was winning kids to Jesus and we had a huge youth ministry.85100:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,240So you were numbing out.85200:42:31,240 --> 00:42:33,320So I was numbing out, totally numbing out.85300:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,400I was just depressed and yeah, angry.85400:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,720But I don't know that I ever told God that.85500:42:39,720 --> 00:42:42,600I was so in awe of God.85600:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,800The fear of the Lord was real with me.85700:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,120You told him years later.85800:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,240Oh yeah, yeah.85900:42:47,240 --> 00:42:48,240Years later.86000:42:48,240 --> 00:42:52,000We've had lots of conversations since then, honest conversations.86100:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,340But yeah, I was...86200:42:55,340 --> 00:43:01,880It was so bizarre because when I did do that, I went to this place with these guys, these86300:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,760friends, friends, these dudes from the gym.86400:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,400They're not even friends because we don't even see or talk to those people anymore.86500:43:09,400 --> 00:43:16,440But anyway, I remember going to this club, big popular club in this town and I saw a86600:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,120bunch of my high school guys.86700:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,120Really?86800:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,720And I'm like, oh, what are you doing here?86900:43:21,720 --> 00:43:23,080And they're like, what are you doing here?87000:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,720I'm just hanging out.87100:43:25,720 --> 00:43:28,240We were all embarrassed to see each other.87200:43:28,240 --> 00:43:30,840We saw each other and we're like, what are we doing here?87300:43:30,840 --> 00:43:37,920Like I said, that only lasted a couple, three weeks for me because I ended up ministering87400:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,640to people there because I couldn't turn it off.87500:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,480I totally believe that because I know you.87600:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,720I ended up talking to people.87700:43:46,720 --> 00:43:53,880Even you and I, after we met, we went I think once or twice to go dancing.87800:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,880And I was like, no, you're just not a good dancer.87900:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,160No, I'm just kidding.88000:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,160You were a good dancer.88100:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,160I was throwing down.88200:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,440I had some moves in that 80s, 90s.88300:44:01,440 --> 00:44:08,080I actually don't remember now that because I just remember that wasn't the scene.88400:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,200It just didn't feel right.88500:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,400I felt better going to church with you.88600:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,840And that became the center of our life very quickly actually.88700:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,160And we did Bible studies together.88800:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,080We ran back to God big time.88900:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,920We became church junkies.89000:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,760I wasn't on staff at a church at that time.89100:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,920I was working at Butner Children's Home in Lubbock.89200:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,480But we went to everything we could go to.89300:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,440We were in small groups.89400:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,440We got in the choir.89500:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,440I remember that.89600:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,560I can't believe I sang in a choir.89700:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,240But anyway, we did that.89800:44:39,240 --> 00:44:41,760We were involved in everything.89900:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,440And we got married very quickly.90000:44:43,440 --> 00:44:44,440We did.90100:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,440And then we'd go to two churches.90200:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,200I was on staff at a church and on Saturday night we went to another church.90300:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,200We couldn't get enough.90400:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,320And I'm sure the listeners are going, what?90500:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,800I don't even like my church.90600:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,560You don't like your church?90700:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,600Find a church that is vibrant, that preaches the Word of God.90800:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,240Or ask why do you not like it?90900:45:02,240 --> 00:45:03,240Yeah, why?91000:45:03,240 --> 00:45:04,240What is it?91100:45:04,240 --> 00:45:06,160Is it because you're being picky or you're being nitpicky?91200:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,720Or you're in sin?91300:45:07,720 --> 00:45:08,720Yeah, exactly.91400:45:08,720 --> 00:45:12,440I mean, there's things that taint your ability to like something.91500:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,240It may not be the church's fault.91600:45:14,240 --> 00:45:20,280We were just, we just needed God and we wanted God in our relationship to be number one.91700:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,280Hungry.91800:45:21,280 --> 00:45:22,280And you know what?91900:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,280It's not changed.92000:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,280We're still the same.92100:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,720The only thing that's different now is we don't go to another church.92200:45:27,720 --> 00:45:32,360That would be very, that would be weird to go to another church.92300:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,720But we do go to a lot of conferences at other churches.92400:45:34,720 --> 00:45:35,720We love our church.92500:45:35,720 --> 00:45:36,720We love the church.92600:45:36,720 --> 00:45:37,720Yes.92700:45:37,720 --> 00:45:38,720And the bride of Christ.92800:45:38,720 --> 00:45:42,160And I like the church in all its flavors and forms and colors.92900:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,760I just, I get along with everybody.93000:45:45,760 --> 00:45:51,800And so it's still, the bride of Christ is still the center of our world.93100:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,000Jesus is still the center of our life.93200:45:54,000 --> 00:46:00,400And if that makes us weird and alone on a narrow trail, then so be it.93300:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,400I'm happy.93400:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,840The joy of the Lord is real.93500:46:03,840 --> 00:46:04,840It's our life.93600:46:04,840 --> 00:46:05,840Exactly.93700:46:05,840 --> 00:46:06,840Yeah.93800:46:06,840 --> 00:46:07,840It's good.93900:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,840Girl, you're awesome by the way.94000:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,440I love you.94100:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,440Thank you.94200:46:13,440 --> 00:46:19,280I just, I love reminiscing about our past because I just, it just, it's how it's the94300:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,280foundation of our marriage.94400:46:23,280 --> 00:46:28,920It was built on a solid rock of Jesus Christ because that's what we did.94500:46:28,920 --> 00:46:34,400We put him right where he was supposed to be and we have never taken our eyes off of94600:46:34,400 --> 00:46:35,400him.94700:46:35,400 --> 00:46:41,120Even when we've had tragedies in our life, we have not taken our eyes off of God.94800:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,120Yeah.94900:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,400I told God, I'm like Jacob, you're not going to shake me.95000:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,680You have to break my hip to get me off because I'm all in.95100:46:48,680 --> 00:46:55,720And I love that we've done this journey together and there have been forces against us to try95200:46:55,720 --> 00:47:02,720to separate us and try to destroy us and destroy our family and things that I've watched destroy95300:47:02,720 --> 00:47:03,720other families.95400:47:03,720 --> 00:47:10,040And so God has kept us, you know, we're called, we're loved and we're kept by him.95500:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,400And so man, I love it.95600:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,640And I love doing this life with you, whether we're doing a podcast or we're rocking some95700:47:16,640 --> 00:47:21,120steaks on the pellet grill or we're at the gym pumping iron or we're at Sunday morning.95800:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,840Which we've done all that today.95900:47:22,840 --> 00:47:23,840Today and packing.96000:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,840And that's another thing.96100:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,000We love going to the gym together.96200:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,000We do.96300:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,000We do life together.96400:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,000It's Jimmy and Annette.96500:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,000I love you girl.96600:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,000I love you too.96700:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,360Well, listen, our show, our show, we're going to land the plane.96800:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,680We've got a plane to catch.96900:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,280We still got a little packing to do.97000:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,280I got to get some sleep.97100:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,280I know.97200:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,280Okay.97300:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,280Hey guys, thanks for listening in.97400:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,840I mean, we just kind of brought you into a coffee conversation when I was sitting 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review.100100:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,560We've got some beautiful reviews.100200:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,480So we'd love to hear from you.100300:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,080And really, I mean, our heart is I'm sitting here.100400:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,480I feel like I'm sitting in your living room.100500:49:06,480 --> 00:49:07,480I do.100600:49:07,480 --> 00:49:12,520I really I feel that sense of being close to people that are listening.100700:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,360And we want you to know that Jesus is the way.100800:49:15,360 --> 00:49:16,800He's the truth.100900:49:16,800 --> 00:49:17,800He's the life.101000:49:17,800 --> 00:49:23,080And the scripture says, there's no other way to come to the Father through Jesus Christ.101100:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,200And we want to help you do that.101200:49:25,200 --> 00:49:30,280We want to encourage you on your journey, knowing that it is a narrow path.101300:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,400It's not a wide path.101400:49:31,400 --> 00:49:32,680It's narrow.101500:49:32,680 --> 00:49:38,080And there's things along the path that can try to knock you off the path and get your101600:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,840attention and distract you and take you off.101700:49:41,840 --> 00:49:47,520And yet, you're called, you're loved, and you're kept according to the book of Jude.101800:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,080And so just know that.101900:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,840And God's for you, not against you.102000:49:50,840 --> 00:49:51,840And we're for you, too.102100:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,760And so listen, we want you to have an amazing week.102200:49:55,760 --> 00:49:56,760We'll be doing some traveling.102300:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,520We'll have a lot of stories next week.102400:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,360So let's show about probably be packed.102500:50:01,360 --> 00:50:02,360God bless each one of you.102600:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,360Annette, anything you want to say as we land the plane?102700:50:05,360 --> 00:50:10,400Thank you so much for tuning in and just hope that we're bringing hope to you.102800:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,400That's it.102900:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,400We're going to bring hope in life.103000:50:12,400 --> 00:50:13,400God bless you.103100:50:13,400 --> 00:50:22,880Have a great week.