March 7, 2023

My Wife Is Purging Again!

My Wife Is Purging Again!
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Join Jimmy and Annette on an adventure of bringing faith into the center of their lives as they navigate the complexities of this crazy world!

100:00:00,000 --> 00:00:29,240This is Jimmy and Annette and we are coming to you from the heart, the very center, the200:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,800bullseye of the Texas Hill Country. I'm just trying to say it different every time. You300:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,000know what? We're just going to roll. We're going to roll with it. Bullseye of the Texas400:00:38,000 --> 00:00:43,480Hill Country. Bullseye. That's a new one. I know. I just made that up on the fly. I mean,500:00:43,480 --> 00:00:49,400spontaneous. You're good at that. Wow. Spontaneous. I'm on fire. Okay. So, hey, welcome to our600:00:49,400 --> 00:00:54,240podcast. This is Jimmy and Annette Pruitt and we are pastors at the Bridge Church in700:00:54,240 --> 00:00:59,880Fredericksburg, Texas and you can find us at bridgefbg.com in terms of ministry and800:00:59,880 --> 00:01:04,880whatnot. But as far as our life and our podcast, you can find all things about our podcast.900:01:04,880 --> 00:01:14,120You can make comments, you can subscribe, you can listen to all of our episodes at livingupinadownworld.com.1000:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,760I told Annette I'm going to work on my Texas. That sounded like a Boston accent. I know.1100:01:18,760 --> 00:01:25,760I was thinking at least trouble. He has that cool.com. Isn't that Chicago? No, no. Well,1200:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,840Chicago, Boston, you know, they're kind of all in the same thing there. I know. But you1300:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,160know what? What? You're Texan. No. Well, I am, but I'm pretending not to be today. I1400:01:34,160 --> 00:01:39,160thought I would work on my accent. Okay. I'm going to de-accent. And so as I told you before1500:01:39,160 --> 00:01:44,560the show started, my goal is to not sound as West Texan as I am. I don't know why. Just1600:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,720for fun. I don't think I can do that. No, no, don't even try. No. When I was in the1700:01:48,720 --> 00:01:54,960school teacher in Southern California, I was made fun of behind my back because of my Texas1800:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,440accent. Was it hurtful? It was very hurtful when I found out years later. They're all1900:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,160children though. They were just kids. I know. And now they're adults who have kids. I know.2000:02:03,160 --> 00:02:09,400It's crazy. Wow. The aging process. So Annette and I have been married for 30 years of wow.2100:02:09,400 --> 00:02:15,200And oh, it's been 30 years of bliss, 30 years of heaven on earth. Oh my gosh. Do you know2200:02:15,200 --> 00:02:24,200where lousy go? I'm just kidding. They don't. Okay. That was a good one. And that wow.2300:02:24,200 --> 00:02:30,360Nailed it. So we, we wanted to introduce some, just some things about our life, about our2400:02:30,360 --> 00:02:35,520family. We have an amazing family. Really do. We're so blessed. We are married again.2500:02:35,520 --> 00:02:40,360We, we went through a divorce. I was 10 years into a marriage that did not make it. And2600:02:40,360 --> 00:02:45,240Annette, you were 13, almost 14 years into your marriage. It didn't make it. And then2700:02:45,240 --> 00:02:50,440God providentially brought us together. And that's when we started our 30 years of wow.2800:02:50,440 --> 00:02:56,920We've been married 30 years and we've divide, we've what's the word? Defied the odds, the2900:02:56,920 --> 00:03:01,160statistics. Cause actually the statistics say if you've been divorced, you have a very3000:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,000high likelihood. I don't know what the stats are, but I remember being told this as we3100:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,120were getting married, you know, that you do know, Jimmy, there's a very high likelihood3200:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,000that you'll get divorced again. I'm, oh, thanks for the encouragement. That helps. That helps3300:03:13,000 --> 00:03:18,200us. We're starting our new life together and we've really defied the odds on a lot of levels.3400:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,680Have we not? Yeah. So we want to introduce our family. So I'm going to let you go first3500:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,880and we're going to start with Alicia since she's our oldest. Yes. Alicia is 45 years3600:03:27,880 --> 00:03:33,280old. She lives in, wait, we have a daughter that's 45. It doesn't make sense. I was like3700:03:33,280 --> 00:03:42,20045 when I had her. Well, actually, no. Anyway, she's 45. Yeah. She lives in Nashville, Tennessee.3800:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,920She used to be in the ministry with us, but now she's in finance and I have to talk about3900:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,840it for a moment. Okay. What are you going to say? So when, when Alicia came into my4000:03:50,840 --> 00:03:56,440life, she had a little bit of a rebel street going on. Yeah, just a little bit, you know,4100:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,760stuff like taking our car at night when we did, you know, enjoy riding and whatnot. Wonder4200:04:00,760 --> 00:04:05,520why we kept running out of gas all the time. Yeah. Yeah. We were kind of dumb. So, I mean,4300:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,540I was clueless. I'd never had children before. I was a youth pastor and had been for gosh4400:04:09,540 --> 00:04:15,280at that time, maybe 14, 13, 14 years ish. Anyway, I'd been a youth pastor for a long4500:04:15,280 --> 00:04:20,420time and then all of a sudden I've got kids in my house. I'm like, Oh, this will be easy.4600:04:20,420 --> 00:04:24,640You know, I know how to do this because I'm a youth pastor. Right. So you were always4700:04:24,640 --> 00:04:29,680an advocate for the child or the student totally an advocate until you became a parent. I thought4800:04:29,680 --> 00:04:34,240parents were dumb. I thought, you know, they don't know anything. These poor kids and what4900:04:34,240 --> 00:04:39,040they're going through and what I didn't, what I didn't know is how manipulated I was at5000:04:39,040 --> 00:04:45,720the time. And so I learned the hard way that, well, it's not always easy as it looks. So5100:04:45,720 --> 00:04:52,080when I had kids in my world and in my life, it was like, okay, here we go. And she tested5200:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,120the limits. Alicia, if you're listening to this, I love you very much. So what happened5300:04:56,120 --> 00:05:02,200was we went through some things, some hard things, no need to talk about it in detail5400:05:02,200 --> 00:05:09,760TMI, TMI, but something happened between Alicia and I, and we began to grow very close and5500:05:09,760 --> 00:05:17,320God gave me a deep, deep love for her, even in the middle of her really rebellious stage,5600:05:17,320 --> 00:05:22,660partly because she reminded me of me not too long before that, just a few years before5700:05:22,660 --> 00:05:28,360that because I was that kid too. And I wasn't rebellious because I was angry about anything.5800:05:28,360 --> 00:05:34,080I was rebellious more. I was just fun loving. I wanted to play. I want to have fun. And5900:05:34,080 --> 00:05:39,760so, cause I didn't have any trauma. I know still when I have true, I'm still that there6000:05:39,760 --> 00:05:46,280are songs, Cindy Lauper or something. That's a girl song. Girls just want to have fun.6100:05:46,280 --> 00:05:53,440I'm sorry. That's how she says it. Girls just want to have fun. But no, it's a boy thing.6200:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,360Mine's more the speeds of the beastie boys or something. We're just having a good time.6300:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,180Well, back to Alicia. Oh yeah, back to Alicia. And remember when we read her diary one time6400:06:01,180 --> 00:06:07,840and it said, I hate my parents. Yeah, that was, that was encouraging. I was edified after6500:06:07,840 --> 00:06:12,640that. Well, what it did though for us and for you who are listening, first of all, welcome6600:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,000to the show. We're glad you're here. We just wanted to tell you a little bit about ourselves6700:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,680and a little bit about our journey. And then we have a topic we want to jump into, but6800:06:19,680 --> 00:06:25,400we want to introduce our family. So what happened was I just, God gave me a very supernatural6900:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,760love for Alicia. And now you're pretty much her hero. She absolutely. Well, and I love7000:06:29,760 --> 00:06:35,680her. I mean, we grew very close. She changed her last name after her marriage when it,7100:06:35,680 --> 00:06:41,280when she went through a divorce to prove it because she wanted to recognize you as her7200:06:41,280 --> 00:06:46,880father. That was really impressive. That was huge. And it did something in my own heart.7300:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,080I already love this girl to the moon and back. And I've always had a heart for her. I've7400:06:51,080 --> 00:06:56,040always been her big cheerleader and fan. And we got to do some ministry together. She went7500:06:56,040 --> 00:07:01,520to Mexico with me on this mission trip down in the Baja Peninsula, down to this little7600:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,440village where there was a children's home and we spent time doing that. Then we did7700:07:05,440 --> 00:07:10,280a lot of personal ministry together for other people. We went through a season there. So7800:07:10,280 --> 00:07:15,960we've, we've had a lot of amazing, amazing experiences together. So that's Alicia. She's7900:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,480now married to Mark and Mark, get a chance to listen to this. We love you. And we're8000:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,440so happy that you guys are together. And how long have they been married? A total of a8100:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,680year and a half, a year and a half. So yeah, man, they're burning it up and they're doing8200:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,940great. We're so proud of them. They live in the Nashville area, Spring Hill, Tennessee,8300:07:31,940 --> 00:07:37,840our old stomping grounds. And we're just so proud of them and love them. And we, we just,8400:07:37,840 --> 00:07:43,680we want to introduce. So our next child, our middle child, Chris. Now I have to say something8500:07:43,680 --> 00:07:50,400about Chris. Well, there's still children to us. I have a 43 year old son again from8600:07:50,400 --> 00:07:58,060our first marriage. And he called me last week and he said, mom, um, I heard that faith8700:07:58,060 --> 00:08:05,040had kidney stone and had to have surgery and all that bad mom moment. I almost fell over.8800:08:05,040 --> 00:08:11,000How did he find out? Because he was listening to our podcast. I didn't call him. So I felt8900:08:11,000 --> 00:08:16,400really, really bad. And, uh, I sought for a couple of days and then tried to get over9000:08:16,400 --> 00:08:23,240it. But I was really, I felt bad, um, because I had talked to Alicia briefly cause Alicia's9100:08:23,240 --> 00:08:30,280not feeling well and Chris is a pastor too. And I understand how difficult it is to be9200:08:30,280 --> 00:08:35,880able to talk to everyone you want to because you know, our lives are crazy. And so, yeah,9300:08:35,880 --> 00:08:40,400I've learned my lesson. So now I'm going to Chris, I'm going to make a point to call you9400:08:40,400 --> 00:08:45,020at least once a week, whether you can answer or not, or talk, I'm still going to call you.9500:08:45,020 --> 00:08:49,880So I remember after that phone call, you, you did feel bad. You told me something horrible9600:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,720about this. He found out about something about our lives, not through a phone call or through9700:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,880a podcast. So live and learn, right? Yes. That's what we do.9800:08:58,880 --> 00:09:04,520That's why we live up and down. For real, for real. So he's a pastor in Houston. Yeah.9900:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,760And it's my turn to talk about this. Okay. You can talk about it again. He's one of my10000:09:07,760 --> 00:09:14,360heroes. I love Chris. I'm so proud of him. Chris, uh, surrendered to full-time ministry.10100:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,640He's gone to school. In fact, he's getting his master's degree right now and working10200:09:17,640 --> 00:09:22,760through that even while he's pastoring and he pastors in the Houston area, a great church10300:09:22,760 --> 00:09:28,280called city life church. He and his wife, Casey, amazing couple, amazing together since10400:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,320they were in elementary school. They were like in the crib, like cradle. They were holding10500:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,400hands. I mean, literally they've been together most of their whole life, but what's been10600:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,760really cool is to watch them blossom and ministry together. Not only as parents, cause they're10700:09:40,760 --> 00:09:46,800amazing parents too, but to watch them blossom as, as ministers together. She's going to10800:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,960school too. Oh yeah. She's getting her master's as well. Casey in her own right. I mean, amazing10900:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,320singer. Now she's writing songs and I mean, I'm just,11000:09:55,320 --> 00:10:03,040and the songs that are coming out of that church are so amazing. Yes, I said it freaking.11100:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,880They're freaking amazing. And I can say that cause I'm proud of them. And, and two, I had11200:10:07,880 --> 00:10:12,740the privilege for at least a few years of getting to play music with them. So Chris11300:10:12,740 --> 00:10:18,120was my drummer when I was a youth pastor in California. And then later years when I was11400:10:18,120 --> 00:10:24,180a senior pastor in Abilene, Texas, uh, Chris was on the worst team and Casey, and they11500:10:24,180 --> 00:10:29,360led our worship. And he played the guitar. You taught him how? Well, he kind of taught11600:10:29,360 --> 00:10:34,360himself. Well, he started it. Yeah. But he's just, man, he took off running with that.11700:10:34,360 --> 00:10:39,200So, so they were leading worship at our church in Abilene and I was like, could I play guitar11800:10:39,200 --> 00:10:44,840for y'all? So everything flipped. So now I'm playing guitar for him. And that just, that's,11900:10:44,840 --> 00:10:50,440those are special memories to me of us having those amazing worship nights there and powerful12000:10:50,440 --> 00:10:55,800encounter nights with God and, oh, they were also part of our church plant in Brownwood,12100:10:55,800 --> 00:11:00,400Texas, where they were on the ground floor and we got to see God move in crazy, amazing12200:11:00,400 --> 00:11:07,400ways. So we're super proud of them. And then our third child, surprise. Well, it was an12300:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,840adoption. It was an adoption. And once we talked about it, we told that story already,12400:11:11,840 --> 00:11:17,080but she's 22 years old. By the way, those of you that prayed for her and this kidney12500:11:17,080 --> 00:11:22,000stone, I mean, 22 years old and having a kidney stone, what's up with that? And we believe12600:11:22,000 --> 00:11:28,960it was there. She's, she was experiencing pain for six months. So we think that it's,12700:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,960we think it could be our fault because we raised her on banquet chicken nuggets and12800:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,160stuff like that. I mean, we didn't feed her. I know. And now she won't eat anything good.12900:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,840Except that stuff. So maybe that's our fault to a degree, but we'll, we'll, we'll own that13000:11:41,840 --> 00:11:47,000the best we can. But anyway, we're so proud of her. She works on our staff and she does13100:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,160all things digital and she's amazing. Oh, on the, on the kidney thing. Thank you for13200:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,800praying because not only were they able to go in there and I don't know how they do it,13300:11:54,800 --> 00:11:59,680they Sonic blast it, but then they put a stent in. That was actually worse than having the13400:11:59,680 --> 00:12:04,280kidney stone. Her recovery was harder because they had to leave it in one week to let those13500:12:04,280 --> 00:12:10,640particles pass. And once they did in, in, I mean, like the day before we got the stent13600:12:10,640 --> 00:12:16,880out, I spent four hours with her in the ER. She had to go to the ER twice. It was awful.13700:12:16,880 --> 00:12:23,600However, as soon as they got the stent out last Monday, she almost snapped back immediately.13800:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,440It was like, just needed that foreign object out of her body. So she's doing great. So13900:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,840thank you for praying. We're so thankful, but we want to introduce our kids to you because14000:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,720first of all, we are so proud of each one of them. They have, they are amazing young14100:12:36,720 --> 00:12:44,800adults. They brought it. They gave us grandchildren. That's true. Six, six, maybe one on the way14200:12:44,800 --> 00:12:51,240or in the, in the oven. Say in the oven if you're somewhere like that. Is it oven or14300:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,680incubator? I don't even know. I have no idea. We may have another one on the way. We're14400:12:55,680 --> 00:13:00,520getting super excited and here's the craziest thing. We could be great grandparents at any14500:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,600time. We're too young. Caitlin, if you ever listen to this podcast, we're ready. Let's14600:13:04,600 --> 00:13:09,980get this done. Get this going. So, so yeah, so we'll be great grandparents, which is mind14700:13:09,980 --> 00:13:13,960bending because I still play lead guitar at a band and all. I mean, I'm like, what? You14800:13:13,960 --> 00:13:18,760still act like a child. I feel 17, except for this weekend when you had me clean out the14900:13:18,760 --> 00:13:25,560garage. I did not feel 17 after that. I felt 77. You know what we accomplished. I know15000:13:25,560 --> 00:13:31,880it's great. Oh, our garage looks like, it looks like we've moved away. There's nothing15100:13:31,880 --> 00:13:38,160there. Yes. You said two cars in a leaf. You said, it looks like we're moving. I know nothing15200:13:38,160 --> 00:13:44,160in here. I said, that was the point. Every time I go to Adam and Tina's house. Oh my15300:13:44,160 --> 00:13:49,840gosh. Oh, you know, not drive me into her drive. I'm not sure if this is an Adam ruined.15400:13:49,840 --> 00:13:55,800Is it Adam or Tina? I don't know. We'll have to ask. Oh my gosh. You can eat off the floor15500:13:55,800 --> 00:14:01,160in their garage. You really can. It's mind bending and it Adam. Thanks. Cause you, you15600:14:01,160 --> 00:14:07,640put me through, um, double toothpicks be over this deal because and that was like, we've15700:14:07,640 --> 00:14:12,000got to clean our garage. I'm like, because the Curry's have a clean garage. Are you kidding15800:14:12,000 --> 00:14:17,040me? Really? Oh, I'm embarrassed when people come through here. I'm like, it's a garage.15900:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,040Everybody comes through the garage. Hardly anybody comes to the front door. Cause you16000:14:21,040 --> 00:14:25,200open up the garage door. Well, now they tell people to come in and scoot across on their16100:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,960butt if they want to. I'd like to have it so clean. I think it'd be nice to have it16200:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,480painted. We'll have this. This is an offline conversation. We're done. I'm done. That was16300:14:33,480 --> 00:14:38,680a spring cleaning and literally on Sunday when I got up to preach, I was so sore. I16400:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,520felt like, and you didn't feel bad at all cause your garage was clean. So, and I'm in16500:14:42,520 --> 00:14:48,920pain and I'm going to keep quit whining. Okay. All right. Onward. So we've had a, again,16600:14:48,920 --> 00:14:54,920gosh, we've been on this really amazing journey. We won't, you don't have to go into detail,16700:14:54,920 --> 00:15:00,160but Annette, you made some decisions about a little over a week ago about just saying,16800:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,360you know what, I'm ready to clean up some things. I'm kind of in a purging mood, which16900:15:04,360 --> 00:15:09,600is why we purged everything out of the garage. Got rid of things that I kept saying, we'll17000:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,400get rid of that someday. And we've moved 10 times and it's still with us. Jesus, take17100:15:13,400 --> 00:15:18,600this refrigerator. Take this, take the wheel and everything else. Okay. Well, sorry. So17200:15:18,600 --> 00:15:23,520anyway, I've been on this purging. I've went through all my clothes, decided I kind of17300:15:23,520 --> 00:15:28,520wanted to become a minimalist. Isn't there a TV show that we watched on Netflix? Yeah.17400:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,960There's a documentary called the minimalist and that I love those guys, Josh. I can't17500:15:32,960 --> 00:15:38,280remember the name. And then Marie, what's her name? Marie Konda Marie Konda. That she's17600:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,560the one who talks to objects as she's throwing them away. Thank you for blessing me. Now17700:15:42,560 --> 00:15:48,920I don't go that far. That's weird. But anyway, throw that thing out. But I went through a17800:15:48,920 --> 00:15:54,380couple of years ago where I just decided to do a Marie Kondo moment and get rid of clothes.17900:15:54,380 --> 00:15:59,280And I've kind of continued to do that. And if I buy, if I get rid of something, you know,18000:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,600that's great. But if I buy something, I really need to get rid of something. Right. But I18100:16:03,600 --> 00:16:09,600just decided to do that with all areas of my life. God had been dealing with me for18200:16:09,600 --> 00:16:15,680over a year about purging things that aren't important. Yeah. Um, for instance, just some18300:16:15,680 --> 00:16:21,360TV shows that we love to watch that, you know, they're great to veg with. So it dawned on18400:16:21,360 --> 00:16:26,800us one day that we were being entertained by the stuff that hurts God's heart. People,18500:16:26,800 --> 00:16:33,320I mean, police shows, investigative shows, and it dawned on us like we're watching this18600:16:33,320 --> 00:16:39,880for entertainment and yet decimation of people's lives. And I wouldn't say convicted. We just18700:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,960made a decision. Yeah. Good decision. Well, I came home from the conference and just,18800:16:43,960 --> 00:16:49,120I knew that if I didn't say first off, I said, can I tell them how this rolled out? Well,18900:16:49,120 --> 00:16:55,200right. I had to tell Tina first before I could tell you that accountability scared me. I19000:16:55,200 --> 00:16:59,160know you come home and you're like, we need to talk to you. I need to talk to you. And19100:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,200usually just so you know, any of you that are married when your wife says in a serious19200:17:03,200 --> 00:17:09,600tone, I need to talk to you 99.9% of the time. That's not a good thing. Means you're in trouble.19300:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,560It means what did I do? Cause immediately I'm wrecking the look on your face. I know what19400:17:13,560 --> 00:17:19,000I'm going, wait, I've been a good boy. I've been great. I even told Tina that I wasn't19500:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,000going to say anything. I was just going to, if you said, you know, turn the TV on, I was19600:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,880just going to say no, or you know, well, let's watch this. And I would have fell over backward19700:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,800in a, I know. And that's what I decided. You might have a heart. I know I am. I know. No,19800:17:32,800 --> 00:17:37,580it's not a bad thing. It's just a nostalgic thing with your dad and I love weird connection19900:17:37,580 --> 00:17:41,720you've got with your daddy and uh, I can take it or leave it. In fact, when you're gone,20000:17:41,720 --> 00:17:47,720I don't watch it. I know. Just don't. So when I sat you down, you were scared. It's kind20100:17:47,720 --> 00:17:57,820of fun to watch you walk. And I'm like, I have men, men, boys, men. Have you ever felt20200:17:57,820 --> 00:18:01,760guilty and yet you knew you had not done anything? That's how I felt. I was like, what did I20300:18:01,760 --> 00:18:07,360do? I mean, I'm racking my brain. Calm down. This isn't about years ago. Yeah. Right. No,20400:18:07,360 --> 00:18:12,640I actually told you this is about me. Yeah. And then you're still thinking, well, if it's20500:18:12,640 --> 00:18:18,040about you, what did I do to you? Yeah. It's kind of, it's not you, it's me. It's still20600:18:18,040 --> 00:18:22,640not a good thing. The way to lead a conversation. But I, but I got it out there and just told20700:18:22,640 --> 00:18:28,400you, I felt like if we were going to, you know what I loved last year, we were out in20800:18:28,400 --> 00:18:34,360our pool and we were, we were just because we were out there a lot in the evening and,20900:18:34,360 --> 00:18:39,640and during the daytime we talked the whole time. It was beautiful. I felt like we talked21000:18:39,640 --> 00:18:45,280more while we were outside than we ever do. And when we're on the inside, because we're21100:18:45,280 --> 00:18:50,080usually watching TV or built a pool thinking this is going to be about therapy, about exercise,21200:18:50,080 --> 00:18:56,480about kind of a getaway. We love water. We're both water babies, grew up water babies. And21300:18:56,480 --> 00:19:03,400it turned out the best benefit was we talk because TV's not on. Our phones are in the21400:19:03,400 --> 00:19:09,400house. Our screen, there's no screens. We put on some worship music, some really jamming21500:19:09,400 --> 00:19:15,200good contemporary worship. And I, that's why I'm so excited about summer. I'm already pumped21600:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,440about summer, about us getting in the pool right now at 68 degrees in the water. But21700:19:19,440 --> 00:19:25,240we do have a hot tub. We do, which we can enjoy, but I kept just going back and remind21800:19:25,240 --> 00:19:33,240and reminding myself about how much we spent, how much time we spent on all, you know, on21900:19:33,240 --> 00:19:39,280just talking and reminiscing and dreaming and visioning. And I thought we could do this22000:19:39,280 --> 00:19:44,320all the time if I would just give up the one thing and that's TV, not all TV, because not22100:19:44,320 --> 00:19:51,400all TV is bad. I mean, we watched Jesus music last night, which is an amazing documentary.22200:19:51,400 --> 00:19:56,680We watched movies. There's, I just, I just don't want anything on Saturday. Yeah. And22300:19:56,680 --> 00:20:01,480there's nothing wrong with that. I just don't want to get into these dramas that I've been22400:20:01,480 --> 00:20:06,000into and you get into their lives and it's stupid. It's almost like soap operas used22500:20:06,000 --> 00:20:11,960to be at night. Well, as a young person, I was addicted to soap operas and all I did22600:20:11,960 --> 00:20:17,080was change it from morning to night. I was addicted to one for my children. I know because22700:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,680it came on at noon. It was during my lunch hour. She's still probably on there. I don't22800:20:21,680 --> 00:20:27,000believe she's ever had. Remember Tad? Yes. Anyway. Okay. We digress. Okay. So anyway,22900:20:27,000 --> 00:20:33,200no longer addicted. I came home and made that decision and it's been a week, a week today.23000:20:33,200 --> 00:20:39,840I feel so free. I can't even tell you. I would say the best week. Yes. I've just, we've got23100:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,280all this time. So what have we been doing? We've been reading, we've been getting in23200:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,480the word. We went and worked out. We've been watching sermons from one of our favorite23300:20:47,480 --> 00:20:52,600pastors, pastor Robert Morris of gateway church in South Lake, which we are connected to.23400:20:52,600 --> 00:20:59,280Our church is a gateway network church. And so, and, and it's been amazing. I mean, really,23500:20:59,280 --> 00:21:04,120really, it feels like weight's been lifted. You know, I started thinking about these shows23600:21:04,120 --> 00:21:07,680we were watching and, and you know how we'll get mad at something that happened. We're23700:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,520like, we can't believe he did that. And then in my mind, I'm going, the writers wrote that23800:21:11,520 --> 00:21:16,080he really didn't do that. So I'm thinking what is wrong with us? I know we caught up23900:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,920in somebody else's drama. I just feel like I'm in a season where the Lord says, just24000:21:19,920 --> 00:21:26,000put it all aside. Spend time with your husband. Tell them how much I resisted when you shared24100:21:26,000 --> 00:21:33,280this. I think you almost fainted. I almost cheered. I was like, yes. It has been wonderful.24200:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,280Not that I didn't enjoy those shows too, but cause it's just, it's time with you. It's24300:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,680what you love to do. So I'm going to do it. But inside there have been many times where24400:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,240I thought, gosh, I'd rather be have the TV off. Maybe have some music going. And what24500:21:46,240 --> 00:21:51,640I love about it too is, you know, you started a series on heaven. And so now we're really24600:21:51,640 --> 00:21:57,800talking about it together even more as you're, you know, finalizing, you know, your sermons24700:21:57,800 --> 00:22:03,800and I bounce off you all the time. But I feel like, I don't know, it's even, it's bonded24800:22:03,800 --> 00:22:09,760us even more. Yeah. It's almost like you use the word purge, which it's, is a word of kind24900:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,160of a purification type of word where I don't know if this has ever happened to any of you,25000:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,400but sometimes our life just gets cluttered and it's not intentional, you know, and you're25100:22:18,400 --> 00:22:23,280not doing anything necessarily wrong. It's just cluttered begins to build up. And so25200:22:23,280 --> 00:22:28,280just as we did the garage and you were like, gosh, it feels so good. I'm over there crying.25300:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,240I'm trying to think of what else we can purge. I mean, everything's hurting on my body and25400:22:32,240 --> 00:22:37,080you're like, this feels so good. And I'm like, Hey, I moved about five days from moved a25500:22:37,080 --> 00:22:42,360whole bunch of paint cans and furniture. I'm just being a whiner. But what I'm saying25600:22:42,360 --> 00:22:48,080is, is that it did feel good. It felt good to declutter, you know, less is more kind25700:22:48,080 --> 00:22:53,240of thing is something Andy Stanley's used for years. Less is more. And it felt good25800:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,560to clear out the clutter, not only in the garage, but we cleared out the clutter in25900:22:57,560 --> 00:23:03,360our evenings. So now our evenings are free. They're free not only to, to enjoy each other26000:23:03,360 --> 00:23:07,920and enjoy time. We've been sitting at the dining room table doing supper together. I26100:23:07,920 --> 00:23:14,120know I forgot we even had no me too. We always sat at the bar. I asked Tina, I said Tina,26200:23:14,120 --> 00:23:17,960where do y'all sit to eat? She goes, well, we usually sit at the table every now and26300:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,880then we'll sit at the bar. I'm like, really? Yeah, we see if we still have a table the26400:23:21,880 --> 00:23:28,160time you don't sit down and we eat. No, I'll stand up. So you know why? Typically? Well,26500:23:28,160 --> 00:23:33,540because I've been sitting all day. Why? Probably watching TV if it's a weekend. I'm like, no.26600:23:33,540 --> 00:23:39,360So now I want to sit and enjoy a nice slow. Yeah, we slow down. I don't have to wait for26700:23:39,360 --> 00:23:46,200a phone, a TV. We light some candles and then this happens. Oh my God. Here we go again.26800:23:46,200 --> 00:23:52,760I'm sorry. New toys. Candles. We need to light more candles. I agree. Flowers. But you know,26900:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,440but we bought back time. That's what happened. Flowers. I feel like we shouldn't have said27000:23:56,440 --> 00:24:01,760that. Adam bought Tina flowers. Adam, you're killing me. You need to take it back a notch.27100:24:01,760 --> 00:24:07,160He gets back from a four day trip to flowers and dinner made. And the first thing she says27200:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,240to him is you didn't take a shower. I know. I know. That's a hilarious story. She messed27300:24:11,240 --> 00:24:19,200up there. She didn't. I think she repented. Fumble, fumble. But the flowers. Now, Adam,27400:24:19,200 --> 00:24:24,560please talk to Jimmy. Bro, you're killing me. I used to tell him not to buy me flowers27500:24:24,560 --> 00:24:29,080because I didn't want to spend the money, but now I've thought of it. But I serenade27600:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,380you with my, how many guitars hanging in this room? One, two, three, four, five. You need27700:24:33,380 --> 00:24:38,200to purge. Seven guitar, wait, six, seven, eight guitars in this room. And I serenade27800:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,800you all the time. And how many do you have in a closet? Adam does not play the instrument.27900:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,640How many do you have in a closet? He's interviewed metal bands all over the world. You're not28000:24:44,640 --> 00:24:49,920answering my question. What were you saying? How many are in the closet? They're going28100:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,200to stay in the closet. I don't know. Couple, couple, three. Please let them out of the closet28200:24:54,200 --> 00:25:00,080and take them. I don't know. Let's not talk about me purging. You purged, it was amazing.28300:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,360It's okay for me. It was really good. No, really though. Okay. Let's get serious. It's28400:25:05,360 --> 00:25:10,320because I just drank a spark and it's got me. I just finished a spark. Bouncing off the28500:25:10,320 --> 00:25:15,480walls. Cause I was like wanting to take a nap 30 minutes ago. You did fall asleep for28600:25:15,480 --> 00:25:20,200a little bit in the chair. Like an old man. Well, you are. I'm slobbering and drooling28700:25:20,200 --> 00:25:29,320on myself. Honey, you've just turned 61. You're older than I am. It's just a number. So anywho,28800:25:29,320 --> 00:25:35,260we were talking about purging the power of decluttering. And I love that idea of every28900:25:35,260 --> 00:25:39,720once in a while you just have to stop and evaluate, take a step back and really observe29000:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,800your life as objectively as possible and say, is this stuff I need? Do I need all these29100:25:44,800 --> 00:25:52,400guitars? Absolutely. But other than that, we look at things and we say, okay, is this29200:25:52,400 --> 00:26:00,200really needful? And I love Maria Konda's thing. Is it bringing you joy? That's my whole point29300:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,080of doing this. If it's not bringing me joy, it's out the door. And throughout the day29400:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,560I was asking you, is that bringing you joy? As we loaded all that stuff into our SUV.29500:26:08,560 --> 00:26:13,840We treated our SUVs like a pickup. I know. We piled stuff. It's got a full load of stuff29600:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,520in it now because I filled up a dumpster. I know. And people, if they dumpster stuff,29700:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,640boy, they're going to get some good stuff. Oh, they're going to cash out. Yeah, they're29800:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,000going to be out there. Oh my gosh. We should have taken some to Goodwill, but-29900:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,240We were just trying to get rid of- Yeah, most of it.30000:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,800Most of it's just stuff I wouldn't even give away. It's just stuff that-30100:26:29,800 --> 00:26:35,040I don't like to take things to Goodwill unless they're in really good shape and I can honor30200:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,600and bless someone, not just give them our leftover stuff that's torn or whatever. I30300:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,880just can't do that. Somebody's asking me what my fee is for a wedding. I just got a note30400:26:44,880 --> 00:26:50,840there. It's like $1 million. That should do it. Inflation and all. You just got it just30500:26:50,840 --> 00:26:55,240now? It was Abram. Abram. So I'm doing a wedding on Saturday. And a funeral. I'm doing a double30600:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,440hitter. I've never done this before. I'm doing a funeral at 11 a.m. and then I'm doing a30700:27:00,440 --> 00:27:06,720wedding at 4 a.m. I mean, that's going to be a day. That'll be a day for the books. It's30800:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,240a first. I've never pulled a double hitter. This is your third funeral in four weeks.30900:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,960I know. I know. I can't believe it. Well, what's been interesting is I started a series31000:27:14,960 --> 00:27:21,440on heaven and then all of a sudden I'm at the bedside. I'm visiting. I'm praying over31100:27:21,440 --> 00:27:29,120people who are passing. It's been a really wild experience. We're moving from decluttering31200:27:29,120 --> 00:27:34,760into our topic. We won't spend long on this today, but I want to encourage you. Here's31300:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,040what I'm learning. Let me just give you some learnings from three funerals in what? Five31400:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,880weeks. You ever take six weeks? I thought it was four weeks. Yeah, maybe four weeks.31500:27:43,880 --> 00:27:49,320Anyway, I'm losing count to be honest. I know. But here's, there's some takeaways that I'm31600:27:49,320 --> 00:27:56,240walking away from this. For one, I'm beginning to realize that the veil between life on earth31700:27:56,240 --> 00:28:03,360and life in heaven in the next chapter is very thin. Upper story, lower story. I love31800:28:03,360 --> 00:28:08,600that. And the veil is much thinner than I thought. You know, we've used these, I use31900:28:08,600 --> 00:28:14,680this phrase a lot, life is fragile because being a pastor for 38 plus years, you never32000:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,080know. And I'm not trying to freak anybody out. Just honestly, you really don't know.32100:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,880We don't. When I was closing the message yesterday, I was talking about heaven and I made this32200:28:23,880 --> 00:28:29,280comment. I said, I may never, what if this is my last message to ever preach, my last32300:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,280sermon? And everybody's settled in with that. Well, yeah, that'd be sad. And then I said,32400:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,920but what if this was the last sermon you ever heard and you haven't stepped over the line,32500:28:37,920 --> 00:28:43,120you haven't gone all in with Jesus, you haven't accepted his free gift of salvation, you know,32600:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,800freedom. We're not guaranteed the next breath. Not guaranteed the next breath. My mother32700:28:46,800 --> 00:28:52,560passed away at 45 years of age. I mean, who's, none of us saw that coming. Elizabeth Pete.32800:28:52,560 --> 00:28:58,200Yeah. Another friend of ours. I had met with her the day before she passed away. 44 years32900:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,280ago. You said she was in the shower in the afternoon. It was actually like 11 o'clock33000:29:01,280 --> 00:29:07,000at night. Oh, was it? Oh yeah. It was, it was in the evening and she has a, I think33100:29:07,000 --> 00:29:12,960they said it was an aneurysm while she's in the shower, 44 years of age. She stepped in33200:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,360the shower and when she came out of the shower, she was in another world. So she was in the33300:29:17,360 --> 00:29:22,760next chapter of her life. She was in heaven. She loved the Lord very godly. Daughter, young,33400:29:22,760 --> 00:29:29,640daughter, founder, heart breaking. But it's, but it's that reminder. And so as I've been33500:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,560doing this series on heaven, and by the way, it's called heaven in the real world because33600:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,040it's not just like, you know, we're going to cross over the river and go into Beulah33700:29:37,040 --> 00:29:42,260land and get our harp and our, and our halos, you know, and our wings. No, it's about, it's33800:29:42,260 --> 00:29:46,580really about what's on the other side. And so I did some reading and some studying from33900:29:46,580 --> 00:29:52,000an author named John Burke, fascinating. And so I started reading his book called Imagine34000:29:52,000 --> 00:29:59,000Heaven. He studied over a thousand near death experiences and he, he only would, would,34100:30:00,480 --> 00:30:06,560he would try to corroborate details, things that people couldn't know otherwise. So he34200:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,360ended up with about studying a thousand of those over 35 years as a pastor in Austin,34300:30:11,360 --> 00:30:16,480Texas. And then he took about a hundred of those and put those into kind of a detailed34400:30:16,480 --> 00:30:22,440story. And so I've been reading through those accounts and, and there's a lot of commonalities34500:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,120and what it has done for me, it is literally, and Annette will tell you this, this is changing34600:30:27,120 --> 00:30:34,120my life. This is, it's shifting my perspective to where now I'm not afraid. And by the way,34700:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,960culturally speaking, one of the greatest things that people fear the most, it's the fear of34800:30:39,960 --> 00:30:45,160dying, the fear of death. That's why we do everything to try to push it off and put it34900:30:45,160 --> 00:30:51,160off and we try to distract ourselves with the stuff of life so that we don't have to35000:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,840think about dying. It's true. Interesting. I've had a lot of conversations. People will35100:30:55,840 --> 00:31:01,160say things like, like this. I'm not afraid of what's coming after death. I'm afraid of35200:31:01,160 --> 00:31:06,000death itself. We're afraid of the pain of pain or if I get a cancer or if I have a heart35300:31:06,000 --> 00:31:11,160attack, I mean, I'm driving and I have a, an aneurysm or whatever. There's a lot of fear35400:31:11,160 --> 00:31:16,680surrounding that, but here's a commonality. I won't go long. Just want to encourage everyone35500:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,560because this is encouraged me because I'm the same way. I'm like everybody else who35600:31:20,560 --> 00:31:25,760wants to think about, you know, one day you're just, it's over and you go out with pain or35700:31:25,760 --> 00:31:31,160you're in an accident. But here's the thing. Everyone who has had one of these NDEs, a35800:31:31,160 --> 00:31:38,160near death experience, a high degree of commonality here is that they come back and they say things35900:31:38,160 --> 00:31:45,160like there was no pain. There's an account of a doctor. She, she was a spinal doctor,36000:31:45,160 --> 00:31:50,280a surgeon, and she's from America, but she was down in Chile and they were doing kayaking36100:31:50,280 --> 00:31:56,600on this wild river and this beautiful area. Her, she was in her kayak strapped in. Her36200:31:56,600 --> 00:32:03,520kayak went off a small waterfall and it went nose down and it stuck in the rocks underwater36300:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,320and she began to struggle and fight. Break me out because I can't handle water. Well36400:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,240yeah, you're claustrophobic. So it's like the worst kind of death, a drowning death.36500:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,400And people have, there's a lot of people have a very real fear of drowning and which she36600:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,400said she actually did have that. I can't even go kayaking because I'm, I have fear of that.36700:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,280Right. So she gets stuck. So her, her, the nose of her kayak is wedged between rocks36800:32:25,280 --> 00:32:31,000and she's fighting to get out and she realizes in the middle of this initial struggle that36900:32:31,000 --> 00:32:37,680she feels fine. I mean, she's like, no fear. She's, she even uses the words. I was not37000:32:37,680 --> 00:32:43,040air hungry. Powerful word. You think you'd go into the fight or flight syndrome. You37100:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,080start struggling. Now she said, I was trying to get out, but I didn't feel, are you, are37200:32:47,080 --> 00:32:52,000you tied in? Okay. See, I've never, yeah, she was strapped in. So she's trying to get37300:32:52,000 --> 00:32:58,000out. She was under the water for 14 minutes at one point during that struggle. Uh, she37400:32:58,000 --> 00:33:04,200said, I felt no air hunger. I felt no fear. She said, in fact, I felt fully alive. And37500:33:04,200 --> 00:33:09,640she said, I felt arms wrap around me. I knew they were arms of Jesus Christ and I knew37600:33:09,640 --> 00:33:14,200it was Christ. It's like, I knew it without having to know it. I knew it. And she said37700:33:14,200 --> 00:33:21,200that, that she, uh, she found herself lifting out of the water in the arms of Christ. And37800:33:21,640 --> 00:33:26,000then as she was looking down on the waters, and that's another commonality is just floating37900:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,080out of your body's out of body experiences. She was looking at the body. All of her friends38000:33:30,080 --> 00:33:35,480were on the shore and her body pops up in the kayak. They get her and they're, they're38100:33:35,480 --> 00:33:41,500working on her on the shore and they're, they're crying out to her and she turns. Also one38200:33:41,500 --> 00:33:46,560other piece of this, not only did she come out of the water with cries, she saw the great38300:33:46,560 --> 00:33:51,560cloud of witnesses waiting for her and they were cheering like she's like stepping over38400:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,520the cross crossing over a finish line. They're cheering for it. She feels welcomed and loved38500:33:56,520 --> 00:34:01,200and they're like, welcome home, welcome home. And she's like, this is the most amazing feeling38600:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,120ever ever. And it's like her senses were heightened.38700:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,720Why would you even want to go back to the earth when you feel this way?38800:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,040Really didn't. But here's what happened in at least in her account, cause there's different38900:34:11,040 --> 00:34:17,080accounts. Again, a lot of commonalities. She looks back and she sees her friends weeping39000:34:17,080 --> 00:34:23,520over her body and begging her to breathe. So she's, she looks back at the crowd and39100:34:23,520 --> 00:34:29,120Christ and she says, I'll be back. And she said out of compassion, she, she was allowed39200:34:29,120 --> 00:34:35,000to go back. She said, I laid down where my body was and I took a breath. She had been39300:34:35,000 --> 00:34:41,480out. She'd been underwater for 14 minutes out for another 16, 30 minutes total. She39400:34:41,480 --> 00:34:48,000was completely out and no brain damage, no physical issues. She was completely healthy39500:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,920and resumed her practice, but with a very changed perspective, she'll never fear death39600:34:52,920 --> 00:34:59,040again. And I love that. That so encouraged me because like everyone else, it is in the39700:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,840book. Imagine heaven, heaven devotional. There's two books. There's a book full on book. This39800:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,520is a devotional where he takes those. He said that he got a lot of flack is when he very39900:35:08,520 --> 00:35:14,160first started. Yeah. When he first started investigating, people are like, well that's,40000:35:14,160 --> 00:35:19,320you know, the Christians were actually going, Oh, you shouldn't be doing that. I feel bad40100:35:19,320 --> 00:35:25,480for people that are really trying to do some good and get some information. Well, for me,40200:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,880I mean, I already have this great hope. I already know where I'm going. I know that40300:35:28,880 --> 00:35:35,780I know, I know in my knower, but it really encouraged and inspired me of not to fear,40400:35:35,780 --> 00:35:41,360not to fear the process of getting to the other side, what we would call a transition40500:35:41,360 --> 00:35:48,080or passing over or step or a new chapter of life. Cause we never die. We never, our bodies40600:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,520expire but our soul, our spirit lives on. So many people think it's just going to get40700:35:52,520 --> 00:35:57,840black and that's it. Oh man. That's just, I can't even imagine thinking that way. Yeah.40800:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,280I mean, that's called fatalism where you literally use, you don't see that anything could ever40900:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,920get any better. And so, I mean, how would you live if that's all you knew? First of41000:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,160all, you would fear death terribly, but as believers and followers of Jesus, we don't41100:36:12,160 --> 00:36:18,160have to be afraid. There's amazing throughout the Bible, over 700 references to heaven,41200:36:18,160 --> 00:36:25,04087 just in the book of Matthew references to heaven and the glory that will be met with41300:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,400the one of the commonalities, Burke, and I'll finish with this. One of the commonalities41400:36:28,400 --> 00:36:34,000that Burke came away from all these studies, thousand, you know, over a thousand cases41500:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,200is that they all had this, they said once their, their body expired, they were, they41600:36:38,200 --> 00:36:44,960were clinically dead that they, their senses like, you know, for example, the scripture41700:36:44,960 --> 00:36:50,280says that in heaven, there'll be no sun because there'll be no need for the sun to produce41800:36:50,280 --> 00:36:56,680light because God himself and the lamb, Jesus Christ is the book of revelation is like themselves.41900:36:56,680 --> 00:37:02,000They actually like the kingdom. And he said, you know, the difference is, is that in our,42000:37:02,000 --> 00:37:07,280in our, in our current spectrum, the, the colors of the sun and the light that the sun42100:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,480produces our color spectrum is just limited. It has a certain amount and that's what we42200:37:11,480 --> 00:37:16,680see. But these people that had these near death experiences, they, their color spectrum42300:37:16,680 --> 00:37:23,080was expanded to the spectrum of God. So they saw colors and experienced light they had42400:37:23,080 --> 00:37:29,840never seen or felt before. So you can imagine if you're, if your senses are hyper excited42500:37:29,840 --> 00:37:34,560because you're now in a glorified body, a new, a new state of being. I know all this42600:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,000sounds really out there, but if you think about it, the Bible addresses these things42700:37:39,000 --> 00:37:44,800and it says in terms of preachers don't preach on heaven much. Yeah. And, and you know, there's42800:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,000two things the church doesn't talk about enough and that's heaven and hell. And that's another42900:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,320thing we're going to address too at our church in the next week. I kind of tiptoed into it43000:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,000a little bit, but we're going to talk about that as well. So here's how I want to land43100:37:57,000 --> 00:38:03,360the plane. First of all, if you have a fear of death or dying, I want to encourage you43200:38:03,360 --> 00:38:09,760to get John Burke's book. It's called Imagine Heaven. There was a devotional version. It's43300:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,400just a hundred of those cases. It's a more to the point, very good. And then there's43400:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,840the actual book. So it's John Burke, Imagine Heaven, another documentary and or book, depending43500:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,480on whether you want to watch a documentary or read a book is by Lee Strobel. And it's43600:38:24,480 --> 00:38:32,040called the case for heaven, the case for heaven. Very well done, very well made and powerful.43700:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,020All right. We love you. We want to land the plane today. 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