"Fighting Spiritual Battles and Winning!"

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Don't get down when you're seeing the worst.

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Cause the last will be the first. What a day,

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I'm telling you. All things will be. This is

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Jimmy and Annette, and we are living up in a

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down world. At least that's what we try to do

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on a daily basis. We want to welcome you to our

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podcast today, and we are excited to be in the

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studio. Episode 102. 102, and this is two weeks

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in a row. This may be a new actual record. Are

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you sure it's not three weeks? Is it two or three?

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Two or three. You know what? It may be three.

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It may be three. Wow. I don't know. Everything's

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a blur right now. It is. Are you feeling the

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same thing? Time is going by so fast. I don't

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even know what day. Is it because we're getting

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older or we're so busy or we're so filled with

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purpose? You know, I thought it was because we

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were getting older because... Most people, when

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they're older, it seems that way. But our younger

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daughter says time is going fast to her, too.

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She does. I don't know. She's 24. 24. Yeah. Yes.

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I have to think about it. I know. That's sad.

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We're old. I don't have brain fog, though. I

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mean, it's not that. It's just we look up and

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we're so busy. Hands to the plow. Yes. We love

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what we get to do. And so when you're having

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fun, time flies. Yes. And we are having fun.

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Just for those, if we have any new listeners

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today, first of all, welcome to our podcast.

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Living Up and Down World is what it's called,

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like I said. But we are Pastor Jimmy and Annette,

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and we lead and pastor a church. We've been here

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nine years. It's called Bridge Church in Fredericksburg,

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Texas, and we love what we do. Yes, and we love

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the Hill Country. Oh, we love the Texas Hill

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Country. We've lived in many places in Texas,

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but the Hill Country is by far our favorite place

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to live. Now, the most pretty place we've ever

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lived was Midland, Texas. Ah, you're funny. Wow.

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That's the ugliest place we've ever lived. But

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I loved Midland. You grew up in that area. I

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did. It's changed a lot since I grew up in the

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60s and 70s. Oh, my gosh. How old are you? No,

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I'm just kidding. I know. Me too. I actually

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prefer Midland to Odessa. I used to work in Midland,

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and I preferred that. I've lived in both Midland

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and Odessa. But there's nothing like the Hill

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Country. I know. It's special. Nothing like it.

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It really is. Even people who come and visit

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here say that. There's just something special.

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It's kind of like the Old West. It's got that

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rural vibe, beautiful hills, and right now we're

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super green because we've had a lot of rain,

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which we're so thankful for. Because it's been

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about a nine -year drought. Yes. And so this

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has been really refreshing. It was actually cool.

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We walked at 645. We did our two -mile walk in

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our neighborhood, and it was 67 degrees. It was.

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It was beautiful. And we still had some storms

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in the air, some thunderstorms. So you could

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hear a little rumble of thunder every once in

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a while. Which I liked. And then we could see

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the clouds. Yes. We could see the storms, but

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they were far away. Yes. It was like perfect.

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Even if it was sprinkling, it would be nice because

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it would cool you down. But it was pretty cool

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this morning. It felt so good. Just seeing the

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green and, of course, the sun coming up. This

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is the greenest June we've ever seen. Amazing.

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Yes. I walk outside or I drive into our neighborhood.

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Reminds us a lot of Tennessee. Yes. Reminds us

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of where we lived in Spring Hill, Nashville.

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Which is the most beautiful place we've ever

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lived. Nashville. Nashville's stunning. The most

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beautiful. The countryside especially. But this

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is the second most beautiful place. I agree.

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And it's right up there with it, with the green

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and the weather we're having. Especially where

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we live. Yes. Yeah. Wow. So what a fun time walking

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this morning. We've gotten back into our groove.

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Walking and lifting weights. I mean, those are

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like the two. Most important things we could

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do, especially at our age. And we ate ribeyes

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yesterday, part of our carnivore journey. We're

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switching from sirloin to ribeyes. We're stepping

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up our game a little bit. Oh, my gosh. As much

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as I love. So it's going to double our grocery

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bill. It will double. I mean, the top sirloin

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from HEB is actually a great deal. But it's not

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enough fat for us. We need the fat. So we stepped

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up to ribeyes yesterday. Oh, my gosh. That was

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amazing. It was really good. My stomach was telling

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me, hey, you had a lot of fat yesterday. I know.

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Anyway, if you're a carnivore, you'll get that.

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But anyway, so yeah, carnivore journey's going

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great. I heard good news about the movie, the

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documentary we were part of. Yes, they did. It's

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called Healing Humanity. Yes, and they finished

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the filming and now they're in the editing stages.

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It's exciting. I'm excited to see what's going

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to happen. And then they're going to have a series

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come out too. So we'll be part of the series

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as well. They got a lot of footage. We're busy

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people. I know. But it's fun. And I'm glad that

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we're part of this community because it's given

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us a whole new genre of people that we are. getting

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some interesting, having interesting conversations

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with, with people from all different walks of

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life. And, uh, it's another way to bring the

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gospel into another, um, stream. And I love it.

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It's been really wonderful. We were supposed

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to go to Seattle last weekend and we had to cancel

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because we just partly, I was just tired of traveling.

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We did a lot. We need to. For a little bit. And

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we're leaving next week for L .A. Right. I knew

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that was coming. Of all the places we're going.

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Oh, I know. That'll be fun. I was talking to

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our Bible group. And I'm like, we're going to

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L .A. next week. They're going, what? I'm like,

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I know. We're going to wait and see if the conference

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gets canceled. I don't think so. I think this

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is California. This is probably the time to have

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the conference. Think about it. They live there.

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Remember when we lived there and there were high

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-speed chases every day? Yes. And we're like,

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yeah, whatever. You know, I mean. Because when

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you live in a place like that, it's crazy. But

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we're flying into LAX. It may be better to fly

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into Ontario or John, is it John Wayne? John

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Wayne. We might look into that. I think John

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Wayne is Ontario. We'll kind of see. One of the

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reasons why we're going, for one thing, is we're

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going to a conference called Last Stand with

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Seth Gruber. Jack Hibbs is one of the speakers.

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He is someone that we have followed for... A

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while, a good while. We're going to go to his

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church on Sunday. But another person that we

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found out was going to be at this conference

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is Victor Marks, who just happened. We just,

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okay, you've been following him for months, talking

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to me, going, I love this guy. And then we get

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a call, hey. Victor Marks is going to be in Fredericksburg.

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You think you could have him at your church?

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And we're like. From our friend, Rick Green at

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the Patriot Academy. And we didn't hesitate because

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that was one of the reasons, another reason why

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we wanted to go to this conference in LA. And

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now he's going to be at our church. I know, it's

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crazy. And you call him a door kicker. Do people

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know what door kicker means? Door kicker is kind

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of code, knuckle dragger code for like special

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ops kind of guy. So he was a specialized. weapons

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trainer in the military. He wasn't special ops,

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but he trained special ops. He trained people

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with weaponry. And he was also in the military,

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a competitive shooter. So he's a marksman. He's

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that guy. But he's done a lot since he got out

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of the military with special ops, Delta Force,

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various ones, working to do, they do rescues.

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They go into dangerous, the most dangerous places

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in the world. And they literally physically rescued

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children from the human trafficking and sex trade.

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Wow. I mean, this is like. That's another level

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of special ops. So this conference we're going

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to has to do with anti -abortion rights. Yeah,

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pro -life. Pro -life. Yeah, cheering on life.

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And I'm sure he's going to be talking about what

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he does to rescue children as well. So it's going

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to be very well -rounded. I'm very excited. I've

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never been to a conference that started like

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8 .30 or 9 in the morning and it ends at like

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11 at night. Wow. It's going to be long. That's

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going to be a long day. But it's going to be

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very good. I'm tired thinking about it, but I'm

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also invigorated knowing that there's so many

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speakers and there's going to be a lot of worship,

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which we love. And I think it's going to be very

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refreshing for us. Well, it's going to fill our

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buckets in another element of, and that's the

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pro -life piece, that I'm excited about too.

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I don't care how tired we are. Sometimes you

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just say, suck it up. Tell your flesh to get

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behind you. Well, the good thing about it is

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we'll go to that, then Sunday we'll go to church.

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Then we'll have a day to rest on Monday. That's

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going to be good. We need that. Then we'll come

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home on Tuesday, but we start our vacation where

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we're actually off work, except the following

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Sunday you're going to preach one time, but we're

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off until August. What better way to start our

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vacation than, you know, ending our time here

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with a conference. It's going to be, you know,

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take a lot of time and energy to be into. But,

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man, we're going to have all that rest time and

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go to the beach. That's why it makes it a little

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easier to have a crazy schedule right now. In

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fact, we've got so much going this week. On Saturday,

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we're going to divide and conquer. You're going

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to go to one event that we had planned. I'm going

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out to the Patriot Academy because Karl Marx,

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they're doing the final. Karl Marx? Karl Marx.

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I knew you were going to do that. I knew I was

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going to have that footy and slip. Karl Marx

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is not a person we want to see, and he's dead.

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I knew I was going to have that slip. Victor

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Marx. Okay, rewind. Calm down. So Victor Marx

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will be speaking at the Patriot Academy. And

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he's going to be, it's going to be part of a.

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of a new video curriculum that Rick Green and

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the PA, Patriot Academy, are developing called

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Rebuilding Liberty. And I was blessed to be a

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part of that and share my testimony of scales

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dropping from eyes and why as a pastor. Did you

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let Rick know, by the way, you're going to be

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there? No, I didn't. Oh, you should. You never

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know. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because you need to connect

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with Victor. Not Carl, but Victor. I'm never

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going to let you live that one down. Well, when

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you're fighting against Marxism and it's on your

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mind all the time, it's kind of hard to make

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a jump from Mark to Victor. One of all the last

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names he has. I've never met anybody that had

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that last name. I don't know if I would claim

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that or not. Well, but his name is Victor, which

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I love. Right, but Marx is M -A -R -X. It's not

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even K -S. fault he was born in you know he's

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born so anyway i'm excited about victor being

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born here's another cool thing i mean so you're

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gonna go with tina curry to a piano dueling a

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dueling piano it's cool i've never been i'm really

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excited i think it'll be fun it's different And

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then Adam and I are going to go to the Patriot

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Academy. Again, divide and conquer. That's how

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much stuff we've got going on. But we're so excited.

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We get to do this stuff. And I wake up every

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day. I mean, I'm getting up earlier and earlier.

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It's because I'm making you walk with me. Yeah,

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and I've got to have my time with the Lord. Well,

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I'm glad you're getting up earlier. So that you

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can spend that time with me. So I'm now, I've

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dialed it back to, I get up at 5 .15 every day

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and I go in there and spend time in the word.

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Not me, I'm up at 6 .30. Write my daily grind.

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I know. Then I hear your alarm go off and our

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dog, Mr. Chevy goes nuts. It didn't go off today.

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I woke up before the alarm. I know he heard you

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though. Cause he knows when you're up. I don't

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know. He's like intuitive. So he's at the door

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crying. I'm going, I'm going, Mr. Chevy, reel

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it in. Come on. Come jump back in my lap. He

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usually sits in my lap all morning while I'm

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getting. doing my daily grind and stuff. So a

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lot going, very happy to be doing that. Good

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news on the Godcaster, super excited, getting

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closer and closer to the app release date. We've

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got the public beta app version. Sorry, can't

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get that out to everybody, but oh man, I'm loving

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it so far. Well, I love it. I mean, we've got

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it on in our car because we've got the beta version

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and I can see who's singing and that. It's so

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exciting to have an app now that's going to give

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us that information instead of wondering, who

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was that? I want to download that song or whatever.

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Well, Adam Curry is part of the development of

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this. And he and his partners, his team, they

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are constantly improving it. And by the time

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we get the full release, you'll be able to download

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it on your phone or whatever and be able to listen

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to it through Sonos. Can you download it on like

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an iPad? Oh, yeah, yeah. Anything but not a computer.

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It's going to be an Android. I don't know if

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they'll do a desktop version. It's not a need

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for that because you can go right to the website

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and listen to that. Yeah, I guess so. Anyway,

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Godcaster's coming out. Really happy for Adam

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and our team. I feel like I'm a part of it. The

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team getting that done. So that's good news.

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And also, we just want to always boost our friends

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and say, go listen to Curry and the Keeper. They're

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back in the groove just like we are. We've all

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been busy, but it's good. What? No, nothing.

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Keep going. You're telling me not to say that.

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I don't mean it in a bad way. It's good busy.

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I know. There's bad busy and good busy. Everybody's

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busy. This is life. We're no different than anybody

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else. So anyway, so go listen to theirs. Curry

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and the Keeper, always amazing, always fun and

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funny. And according to Tina this morning, we

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saw her at the coffee house, which is you do

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your Bible study there. And I meet with Russ

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and she was like. It was so funny. She really

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spun Adam up last night, so I'm looking forward

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to hearing it. Yeah, we'll have to listen to

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it on the way to Kerrville today. Yeah, we can

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do that. All right, so let's talk about what

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we want to talk about. So if you're joining our

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podcast for the first time, our whole goal is

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to teach believers, followers of Jesus, and those

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who are looking at Christianity and examining

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it, what does it look like to live up in a down

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world? And we're not putting the world down.

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We're just saying, according to Scripture, we

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live in a fallen world, hence the word down.

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So how do you live up in a down world? And so

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we know that for us, we have found our hope in

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Jesus Christ. First of all, he's saved us. We're

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born again, free from sin, free from our past,

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new life. Every morning's a new day, right? We

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get up and say, we hit the lottery and we get

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to do this, right? Hello. Good morning, Holy

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Spirit. Let's go. And so that's our life. And

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so I've been a pastor now 42 years. Yeah, 42

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years, 41. I think I'm in my 42nd year. I'm losing

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count. How old were you when you became a pastor?

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I took my first church when I was 80 in 1984.

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That's 41. Or 85. 85 is better. Okay. 85, so

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yeah. So that'd be 40 years. Year 41. I lose

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count anyway. A long time. It's Jesus Christ

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who gives us hope. He is our life. He's our hope.

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He's our everything. But in the second part of

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that is the word of God, the Bible, the scripture.

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And that is what change our, that changes everything.

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Knowing the word. So we always say this as a

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saying, the word works, but. You have to work

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the word. There you go. And so every week we'd

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like to have a topic of something that we feel

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is on our heart that we feel like God wants us

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to bring. to this podcast. And so today we're

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going to talk about spiritual warfare. Yeah.

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The title of, I wrote a daily grind this morning

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because I woke up, I woke up thinking about the

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weapons of spiritual warfare. What are other,

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so we were told we're going to fight the good

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fight of faith. We're told we're in the spiritual

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war, but what weapons do we have? What do we

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use? And if you're hearing bumps, it's okay.

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We've got construction. They're doing the construction.

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We got the guys doing, they're checking air conditioning.

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Oh, I can't hear it. That's probably Russ setting

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things up. Oh, okay. I was going to say. I think

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they're at lunch. We're in a studio, but it gets

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really loud in here because we've got construction

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going everywhere. Constantly. Yeah. Building

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a new building right now. So anyway, a lot of

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stuff. So if you hear bangs and noise, don't

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worry. We're okay. It's all good. So here it

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is. The weapons of spiritual warfare. So listen

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to this. I want to read it, and then I want you

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to comment on this. In the words of John Eldredge,

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you were born into a world at war. To ignore

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the reality of spiritual warfare is to live a

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defeated life. God has called us to live a faithful,

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flourishing and victorious life. It's impossible

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if every step you take is laced with denial and

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despair. You possess spiritual weapons for pulling

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down strongholds, casting down anything that's

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against God and taking every thought captive.

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Activate and engage God's mighty weapons to live

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a life that overcomes anything and everything

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that rises against you. Thoughts? Wow. The weapons

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of our warfare. You know, we all have these thoughts,

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these intrusive thoughts that come into our mind.

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I know I do a lot. We all do. And that are negative.

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And those... Negative thoughts are never from

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God because God thinks only positive things about

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us. He sees the end from the beginning. So when

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we have a negative thought about ourselves, let's

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just say about ourselves, not about someone else,

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but about ourselves, that's where we have to

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fight the enemy on that. And I think women probably

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have to more than men. I don't know. I can only

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speak for myself because I'm a woman. Right.

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Thank you for clarifying that. But we talk about

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it more to other people, whereas men keep it

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to themselves. I'll just say that. You usually

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don't have a conversation with a guy saying,

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you know, I have this thought about, you know,

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I've got these. I've got love handles. Adam,

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I've got love handles, bro. What about you? How

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are you? Women do. We talk like that. And I have

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a lot of, especially lately, it's like the enemy

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is barraging my thought process with just these

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horrific thoughts constantly. And so I have to

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fight it. And so, but there's also things that

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happen to us. In the world that we have to fight

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things, people coming against us, challenges

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that we have in this world. And we have to have

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a mindset that it's not the person, it's the

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enemy using that person. A lot of times the person

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doesn't even know that they, you know, are that

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you have, you know, a problem with them or whatever,

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but you have to. get to the point as believers

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that you see, you know, through that person and

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that it's not them, that the enemy uses people

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all the time. And I think as Christians, we've

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got to have that mindset because we get, let's

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take, for instance, Moms of Liberty and the people

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that went to the school board last week because

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they filed a grievance against our school board

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and because they won't, remove the porn porn

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pornographic books and they even somebody even

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read what was in it and they didn't want to hear

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it they were they were appalled Yet they don't

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want to take the books out, which doesn't make

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sense to me. And so some people have just come

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against those people that were on the board who

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voted five to zero against taking the books out,

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but yet they don't want to hear it. But they

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want our kids to have access. Just totally blows

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my mind. But some people believe. that those

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people are evil, and we have to have a different

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mindset. They're not evil. They're being controlled

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by an evil one. We want to pray for them, not

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against them. We need to pray that God will get

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a hold of them and that the truth will open up

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their eyes to the truth, basically. But as Christians,

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we have to come to a point where we're mature

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enough to recognize that and not go against the

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person. And I think that's one of the hardest

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things as a believer to come to grips with because

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we want to come against the person. And when

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I see people come against another person, especially

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on social media, And I know they're Christians.

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It bothers me. But then again, I have to go,

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wait a minute. The person that's coming against

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that person is not mature in their faith. They

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don't know this. Maybe they've heard it, but

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it hasn't become revelation. So then the Lord

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says, well, then you need to have grace for that

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person. So there's a two -edged sword here. You

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know what I'm saying? No doubt. And that's a

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good example, though, of when we get angry when

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we see Governor Newsom. Let's just talk about

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that. We're going to L .A. next week. We haven't

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been to L .A. in how many years? I know. It's

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been a bit. 20, 30 years, and yet here we're

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going at the time of the riots. And Governor

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Newsom and others in the media are saying there's

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no violence here, yet we're seeing— Mostly peaceful

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riot. And you know what? These are mostly peaceful

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protests. And maybe they are peaceful with people,

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but they're destroying property. They're not

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peaceful. That is not peaceful. But we can't—I

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mean— As believers, we have got, and I'm going

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to say we as in me too, because I don't have

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it fully, but we have to get to a point to where

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we see the evil one behind Governor Newsom and

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these others that are acting and saying crazy

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things. They don't know the truth. So I have

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something to say. Okay. I'm sorry. I tend to

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take this over. I totally, totally agree. But

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what I want to say is this. If we prayed for

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people as much as we railed against them, As

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much as we talked about them, as often as we

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posted or reposted a meme or reposted a post

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from somebody, if we spent that time, that energy,

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that emotional and that spiritual energy praying

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for them, do we trust God enough to believe that

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he can shift? the heart of another human being.

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If we don't, then we're... What's the point of

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this? What's the point of Christianity? What

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is the point of praying? I mean, we are called

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to be intercessors. Now, we are the hands and

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feet of Jesus. That means showing up at the school

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board, showing up at city council, being involved

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in the process, voting, all the pieces that we

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do. Absolutely. We're in the middle of it. But

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there's another level. I say it every Sunday.

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America doesn't have a political problem. It

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has a spiritual problem. The issue is spiritual.

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It's the issue of the heart and the spirit. And

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so I am with you a thousand percent on everything

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you just said. And I'm not saying that I haven't

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participated in talking bad about someone, but

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the Lord is arresting me. This is what growing

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in the spirit. This is part of discipleship as

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a believer is he's arresting me saying, don't

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get in on that. Pray. This is what we as Christians

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should be doing, praying, not bashing. Now, can

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I be upset at what's happening? Absolutely. Look

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at what Jesus did in the temple when they were

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gambling in the temple. Yeah, you can get upset

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and you can do something about it by going and

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saying what you need to say publicly in the public

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square, so to speak. But we've got to get to

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a point as believers that we are mature. more

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mature and don't come against the person, but

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see what's really happening in the spirit realm.

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I don't think we think about the spirit realm

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enough because we live in this world that we

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can touch and feel. And so we don't think that

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there's a bigger thing going on out there. We

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don't see beyond the veil or behind the veil.

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Yes. That, I mean, if you were to be able to

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peel. the world back reality back or unzip it

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and see what's behind it you would see so much

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darkness And so many minions of the enemy, spawn

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of the enemy that are working behind the scenes

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to try to create chaos, division, offense, all

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this stuff, confusion, all these things against

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humanity and mankind. And they're just using

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and leveraging what's happening around the world

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right now. It reminds me of... Yeah, Frank Peretti.

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Frank Peretti. Piercing the darkness. Piercing

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the darkness. And I think we've talked about

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it on this podcast before, but it's been a while.

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But how he wrote this book and he put these characters

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in and literally talked about, showed what was

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happening in these characters' life. And it was,

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it wasn't. factual but it really was in a way

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whoops it really was in a way because he was

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showing what was really going on what was swirling

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in the spirit realm as these characters were

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going about their daily life i should get that

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book out i remember i was mesmerized while you're

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mentioning piercing the dog i'm thinking we need

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to read that maybe on the it's been an airplane

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or something because on our on our i remember

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reading it and it's like watching a scary movie,

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but yet it's, it was so real. And I remember

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he came to our church before I met you. He came

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to our church in Abilene, Lubbock. And I just

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was, he was an interesting man. I haven't heard

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much about him lately, but that, you know, it

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reminds me too, like one of the things that we,

00:25:52.150 --> 00:25:55.299
that brought this up. As talking about spiritual

00:25:55.299 --> 00:25:58.599
warfare, I have felt darkness in our home. I

00:25:58.599 --> 00:26:03.660
even had a dream two nights ago. And in the dream,

00:26:03.700 --> 00:26:06.079
there were two different snakes. One of them

00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:13.019
was I was reaching up into our headboard. And

00:26:13.019 --> 00:26:15.599
there were, we don't have this kind of headboard,

00:26:15.700 --> 00:26:19.420
but there were actual openings. In the headboard,

00:26:19.420 --> 00:26:22.720
like cubby holes, where you could put things.

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And I remember I was reaching up. I can still

00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:27.400
remember this dream, which tells me something.

00:26:27.980 --> 00:26:31.720
And I could see the face. It was kind of about.

00:26:32.369 --> 00:26:35.970
six inches of a snake and it was the face and

00:26:35.970 --> 00:26:38.349
about six inches and the rest of it was inside,

00:26:38.509 --> 00:26:40.829
but I couldn't see that. And I remember, but

00:26:40.829 --> 00:26:43.230
this is interesting because I remember seeing

00:26:43.230 --> 00:26:45.930
that snake and I didn't know what it was at first.

00:26:45.970 --> 00:26:48.150
It was almost like I was coming out of a deep

00:26:48.150 --> 00:26:50.490
sleep or something. And maybe I was lifting up.

00:26:50.569 --> 00:26:52.950
I don't remember the context of the dream, but

00:26:52.950 --> 00:26:55.690
I remember kind of touching that to see what

00:26:55.690 --> 00:26:58.029
it was. And then when I, and nothing happened,

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which I thought was interesting. And then I sat

00:27:01.450 --> 00:27:03.829
back down and I kept looking at it and I went,

00:27:03.890 --> 00:27:06.630
oh my gosh, that was a snake I just touched,

00:27:06.690 --> 00:27:11.200
but it didn't bite. And it was really interesting.

00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:14.660
I don't know what that means in the dream realm

00:27:14.660 --> 00:27:16.819
of, you know, knowing what your dream means.

00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:18.740
Where you don't get hurt or there's nothing,

00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:21.740
nothing has no impact on you. Yes. But I remember

00:27:21.740 --> 00:27:25.720
distinctly that part of my dream. And then at

00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:27.579
the end, I don't know if I had another dream

00:27:27.579 --> 00:27:29.680
or if it was at the end of a dream and there

00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:33.599
was another snake and you picked it up or something,

00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:35.019
but I don't remember anything else. Probably

00:27:35.019 --> 00:27:38.440
ripped his head off. You probably did. But two

00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:44.069
snakes. And I remember saying to you, we need

00:27:44.069 --> 00:27:46.329
to pray over our house because here's the thing.

00:27:46.490 --> 00:27:48.869
For those of you who are Christians and understand

00:27:48.869 --> 00:27:53.450
this, and you can address this, but when you

00:27:53.450 --> 00:27:58.269
feel darkness in your home, the best thing you

00:27:58.269 --> 00:28:00.869
can do is go through your house and begin to

00:28:00.869 --> 00:28:05.319
pray. and condemn that darkness that could be

00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:08.039
in your house sometimes darkness can come in

00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:10.579
through idols that you bring in you may bring

00:28:10.579 --> 00:28:13.480
you may have bought something from a company

00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:16.859
like what's the world market or something like

00:28:16.859 --> 00:28:18.779
that right you know what i'm saying came from

00:28:18.779 --> 00:28:22.019
that came from india or some yeah that someone

00:28:22.019 --> 00:28:24.799
might have put a curse on or whatever and put

00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:26.700
in makes you wonder that doesn't happen a lot

00:28:26.700 --> 00:28:29.470
i don't i don't know if that really i don't buy

00:28:29.470 --> 00:28:31.829
stuff like that. But sometimes people do have

00:28:31.829 --> 00:28:35.130
stuff everywhere, but also there can be people,

00:28:35.210 --> 00:28:37.269
strangers that have come into your home. Maybe

00:28:37.269 --> 00:28:39.410
it was a pest control or maybe someone working

00:28:39.410 --> 00:28:43.089
on your home or, or your, you know, whatever,

00:28:43.170 --> 00:28:46.289
but somebody just coming into your home that

00:28:46.289 --> 00:28:49.930
has darkness around them. Sometimes that can,

00:28:50.069 --> 00:28:53.950
I don't know, can kind of stick around. If you

00:28:53.950 --> 00:28:56.880
have a friend that brings their dog over. And

00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:59.880
their dog has fleas. Yeah, that's true. You don't

00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:02.960
see them. But you feel the effects of them later.

00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:05.859
You may get a flea infestation simply because

00:29:05.859 --> 00:29:08.519
that dog carried fleas and got them on your dog.

00:29:08.660 --> 00:29:11.160
And now you're dealing with fleas. So that's

00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:14.539
a simple, kind of a goofy metaphor, but it's

00:29:14.539 --> 00:29:17.579
true. It's the same principle where things that

00:29:17.579 --> 00:29:21.079
are on people and even sometimes stuff can get

00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:23.259
on you. And it's the same kind of thing. And

00:29:23.259 --> 00:29:25.799
you don't see it. It's not something that's outward.

00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:27.759
But you can feel it. You can feel it in the atmosphere.

00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.960
Because we live in a spiritual realm. felt lately

00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:32.920
because we've had all different kinds of people

00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:37.200
in our home. And I just feel like it's time that

00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:40.279
we go through the house and I love what we do

00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:43.680
is we open up the doors and we just command whatever

00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:46.059
is nefarious or evil to leave new. We don't invite

00:29:46.059 --> 00:29:49.140
them to leave, we command them to leave. We stand

00:29:49.140 --> 00:29:51.039
in our authority. So I've got a scripture that'll

00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:53.799
help our people do this. So let's say you're

00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:56.980
in your home and there's probably a month, not

00:29:56.980 --> 00:29:59.500
a month goes by or two months where someone comes

00:29:59.500 --> 00:30:02.859
to me at church and says, It says, I hate to

00:30:02.859 --> 00:30:04.819
be weird, but I've got some weird stuff going

00:30:04.819 --> 00:30:07.019
on in my house. I'm hearing bumps in the night

00:30:07.019 --> 00:30:10.140
or I felt a depression on my bed. Like somebody

00:30:10.140 --> 00:30:12.099
sat on my bed in the middle of the night. Which

00:30:12.099 --> 00:30:13.259
is what I have felt recently. It's happened to

00:30:13.259 --> 00:30:16.319
me in the past as well. You too, recently. Or,

00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:18.640
you know, something fell off the wall. I mean,

00:30:18.700 --> 00:30:21.299
they're like, there's something going on that's...

00:30:21.660 --> 00:30:23.880
I'm not trying to be creepy or weird, but it's

00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:26.180
otherworldly. And I'm like, oh, well, you've

00:30:26.180 --> 00:30:28.960
got critters. I always say that. You've got fleas,

00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:31.619
basically. You've got an infestation. Well, what

00:30:31.619 --> 00:30:35.400
do you do? So go to 2 Corinthians 10, starting

00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:37.240
in verse 3. So I'm going to repeat that. So if

00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:39.079
someone listening to the podcast wants to hear

00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:43.430
that again, 2 Corinthians 10. Verses three through

00:30:43.430 --> 00:30:45.430
six. Could I read it? Yeah. So I want to read

00:30:45.430 --> 00:30:47.230
it to you so that you can hear it. And I'll give

00:30:47.230 --> 00:30:49.250
a little tiny commentary as I go. Verse three

00:30:49.250 --> 00:30:51.769
says this. This is the Apostle Paul addressing

00:30:51.769 --> 00:30:54.170
the Corinthian church, which was a train wreck.

00:30:54.309 --> 00:30:56.349
So they had stuff going on because they were

00:30:56.349 --> 00:30:59.569
out of a pagan background. He says this. For

00:30:59.569 --> 00:31:03.210
though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according

00:31:03.210 --> 00:31:05.109
to the flesh. And that tells you a lot, right?

00:31:05.230 --> 00:31:08.710
We live in this earth suit, our bodies, the flesh,

00:31:08.789 --> 00:31:11.589
but we don't fight in the flesh. It's not about

00:31:11.589 --> 00:31:16.230
how much you work out or how fit you are. It's

00:31:16.230 --> 00:31:18.970
how spiritually fit you are. So it says we don't

00:31:18.970 --> 00:31:21.009
war according to the flesh. He says this, for

00:31:21.009 --> 00:31:24.569
the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, that

00:31:24.569 --> 00:31:28.289
means fleshly, but mighty in God. And then he

00:31:28.289 --> 00:31:30.990
says what they're for. So here's what the weapons

00:31:30.990 --> 00:31:33.880
of the warfare are for. They're for pulling down

00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:36.720
strongholds. Strongholds is anything that has

00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.299
a hold on you, anything that has a strong hold

00:31:39.299 --> 00:31:41.700
on you. That's what a stronghold is. It could

00:31:41.700 --> 00:31:44.619
be anything or something in your home, a stronghold.

00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:47.740
The second thing is, verse 5, casting down arguments.

00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:50.960
In other words, your mind, you get in these mental

00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:53.539
arguments and your mind's spinning. You're getting

00:31:53.539 --> 00:31:55.180
intrusive thoughts like you were talking about.

00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:58.740
So you can cast those down. Every high thing

00:31:58.740 --> 00:32:01.160
that exalts itself against the knowledge of God.

00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:04.039
That means against knowing him. So anything that

00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:06.700
interferes with your ability to know him, those

00:32:06.700 --> 00:32:08.759
are intrusive thoughts and these can be cast

00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:11.640
down. The second one or the last one is bringing

00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:15.380
every thought into captivity. to the obedience

00:32:15.380 --> 00:32:18.180
of Christ. So there's the next piece of that.

00:32:18.299 --> 00:32:22.180
You can actually capture thoughts. How do you

00:32:22.180 --> 00:32:24.640
do it? Well, you do it, really it's obvious to

00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:26.640
me, but maybe not to you if you've read this

00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:28.119
for the first time or you're just starting to

00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:30.420
look at it. You literally get this on your mouth.

00:32:30.500 --> 00:32:33.240
So here's, I'll say something like this. Father,

00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:35.440
according to your word, I stand in your authority

00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:39.160
and I pray the scripture over this situation.

00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:42.730
And your word says, for though... We walk in

00:32:42.730 --> 00:32:44.950
the flesh. Annette and I do not war according

00:32:44.950 --> 00:32:47.829
to the flesh. For the weapons of Annette and

00:32:47.829 --> 00:32:51.329
my warfare are not carnal, but they're mighty

00:32:51.329 --> 00:32:53.789
in God for the pulling down strongholds. So,

00:32:53.789 --> 00:32:56.529
Lord, in the name of Jesus, we by faith pull

00:32:56.529 --> 00:32:59.849
down anything that has a stronghold on us. Any

00:32:59.849 --> 00:33:03.009
stronghold, anything that's not of you, we now

00:33:03.009 --> 00:33:06.150
give it to you. We renounce it and we give it

00:33:06.150 --> 00:33:08.470
away. We give it to you. It's no longer going

00:33:08.470 --> 00:33:11.609
to have a stronghold on our life. And then, Lord,

00:33:11.650 --> 00:33:14.410
we also cast down arguments. So by faith, we

00:33:14.410 --> 00:33:17.410
cast down. It's like we throw them away. We throw

00:33:17.410 --> 00:33:20.609
them away. Any arguments or anything that exalts

00:33:20.609 --> 00:33:22.910
itself against us knowing you. See, all I'm doing

00:33:22.910 --> 00:33:25.380
is taking the Scripture. praying through it.

00:33:25.460 --> 00:33:27.839
And then Father, in addition to that, we take

00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:31.039
every thought captive. We bring it captive and

00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:34.660
we make it obedient to Jesus Christ. So any thoughts

00:33:34.660 --> 00:33:37.599
in my mind or in Annette's mind, and you're in

00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.880
agreement with me as I pray. Right now, we take

00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:43.200
those thoughts captive by the Holy Spirit, by

00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:46.059
the Spirit. We walk by faith and not by sight.

00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:48.819
So by faith, we take those thoughts captive.

00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:51.900
And we cast them down. We cast them away. We

00:33:51.900 --> 00:33:53.980
send them to the abyss. We send them to the pit.

00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:57.200
Get away from me. Get behind me, Satan. And we

00:33:57.200 --> 00:33:59.660
do this in the name of Jesus, Father, as we've

00:33:59.660 --> 00:34:02.339
invoked to the power of your spirit. We do this

00:34:02.339 --> 00:34:05.299
in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. That is like taking

00:34:05.299 --> 00:34:09.059
a nice... A warm, beautiful shower when you've

00:34:09.059 --> 00:34:11.519
come in from working all day outside. Which feels

00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:15.019
so good. It refreshes you. After we walked this

00:34:15.019 --> 00:34:17.500
morning, you jumped in the shower, then I did

00:34:17.500 --> 00:34:21.000
after you, and we felt so clean and so fresh,

00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:23.840
and we got a fresh start on the day. This is

00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:26.639
cleansing your soul, cleansing your spirit. You're

00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:30.139
clearing your mind and literally rejecting and

00:34:30.139 --> 00:34:33.139
ejecting anything that would try to have a strong

00:34:33.139 --> 00:34:36.409
hold on your life. Right. How's that sound? Great.

00:34:36.469 --> 00:34:39.110
Is that helpful? And then if you feel this in

00:34:39.110 --> 00:34:42.150
your home, you go through your home and we anoint

00:34:42.150 --> 00:34:45.329
our home. A lot of times we'll anoint the outside

00:34:45.329 --> 00:34:49.869
doors or sometimes inside above a door. Let me

00:34:49.869 --> 00:34:52.869
just very lightly. We don't like pour oil over

00:34:52.869 --> 00:34:55.030
our door frame. We put a little bit on the tip

00:34:55.030 --> 00:34:57.349
of our finger and it's a symbol. I'll draw a

00:34:57.349 --> 00:35:00.750
little cross just as a symbol. To say, you know,

00:35:00.750 --> 00:35:03.429
we're covering this home. We anoint this home,

00:35:03.510 --> 00:35:07.070
this threshold, this room in the name of Jesus.

00:35:07.269 --> 00:35:10.570
And we command anything that is not of God, you

00:35:10.570 --> 00:35:13.929
must leave now. And in our friend, Jim LaFoon,

00:35:14.030 --> 00:35:16.590
Pastor Jim LaFoon, he says, go open the door

00:35:16.590 --> 00:35:20.530
and kick them out. Eject them, evict them, evict

00:35:20.530 --> 00:35:22.550
them, get them out of the house. So we do it

00:35:22.550 --> 00:35:25.150
as a symbol. And we have to do it a lot because

00:35:25.150 --> 00:35:28.639
we have people. You know, like I said, different

00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:31.019
service people come in that we don't know. We

00:35:31.019 --> 00:35:32.820
don't know if they're practicing witchcraft.

00:35:32.980 --> 00:35:35.360
We don't know what's going on in their life,

00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:38.900
but we carry things with us. That's why we need

00:35:38.900 --> 00:35:42.119
to carry the blood of Jesus. And then use the

00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:45.719
authority that God gave us. Yes. Just as an encouragement.

00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:50.039
You yourself can pick up things in the world.

00:35:50.139 --> 00:35:52.760
You can pick up fleas. I can get fleas just by

00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:54.260
being around somebody who has fleas. I've talked

00:35:54.260 --> 00:35:56.500
to people who say, I've gone to a restaurant

00:35:56.500 --> 00:35:58.840
or I've gone into a business and I can feel.

00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:02.820
We need to get to a point where we are cognizant

00:36:02.820 --> 00:36:06.619
of what's happening in a place. And if we feel

00:36:06.619 --> 00:36:09.920
that darkness, we should not stay. Yeah, we travel

00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:11.760
a lot. We're very blessed to get to do that.

00:36:11.780 --> 00:36:14.820
Oh, hotel rooms. So going into hotel rooms, it's

00:36:14.820 --> 00:36:17.360
a good idea to pray over that. soon as you walk

00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:18.519
in. Consecrate it to the Lord. Because you do

00:36:18.519 --> 00:36:21.679
not know who has been in there, what's been done

00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:24.119
in there. Exactly. And you go in there and you

00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:25.760
consecrate that space to the Lord. We need to

00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:28.460
do that next week for sure. Especially in California.

00:36:28.980 --> 00:36:31.719
In traveling, sometimes you're flying into a

00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:34.099
city or flying over a city. I mean, you can,

00:36:34.139 --> 00:36:37.679
the more in tune you become with the Holy Spirit

00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:39.880
and the closer, the more you abide in the vine,

00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:42.480
which is God as a branch abiding in it. We abide

00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.969
in Him. the more sensitive you become to these

00:36:45.969 --> 00:36:49.070
kinds of things. So it's like a radar goes off,

00:36:49.150 --> 00:36:51.369
a warning light goes off saying, hey, caution.

00:36:51.510 --> 00:36:54.030
So anyway, good word. I hope this is helpful

00:36:54.030 --> 00:36:56.989
to you. We may stay on this topic for a while.

00:36:57.050 --> 00:36:59.090
I feel like it's really relevant because of the

00:36:59.090 --> 00:37:01.889
world scenarios right now. There's so much hatred

00:37:01.889 --> 00:37:04.730
in the world. There's so much division. The spirit

00:37:04.730 --> 00:37:07.050
of hatred has been released on the planet. And

00:37:07.050 --> 00:37:11.300
we just see humans, people. People hating people

00:37:11.300 --> 00:37:13.880
because one of them's red and one of them's blue

00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:16.559
or one of them's black, one of them's white or

00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:18.760
one of them's whatever. I mean, there's so much

00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:21.239
hatred released on the world. That means we've

00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:24.679
got to remain vigilant and always remember we

00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:26.880
walk in the flesh, but we don't war according

00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:29.139
to the flesh. And it's time to grow up as Christians.

00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:32.840
We've got to become mature Christians and not

00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:35.500
look like the world. Amen. We don't, we should

00:37:35.500 --> 00:37:38.780
never respond and react the same way the world

00:37:38.780 --> 00:37:42.500
reacts. And we need to return hatred with grace

00:37:42.500 --> 00:37:46.199
and love, overpower, win the war. We speak the

00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:49.860
truth always because we love, but we always do

00:37:49.860 --> 00:37:53.039
it in love, in love and because we love. So anyway,

00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:56.940
I know it's easy to grab a keyboard and. you

00:37:56.940 --> 00:37:59.139
know, blow somebody up. That's not what we're

00:37:59.139 --> 00:38:02.219
about. Got to say a big thanks to Adam Curry,

00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:04.900
who boosted us, gave us a striper boost. Thank

00:38:04.900 --> 00:38:07.239
you, Adam. You're such a great supporter and

00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:10.199
such a great friend. And we're thankful for that.

00:38:10.260 --> 00:38:11.659
Anything else I need to mention from the week?

00:38:12.989 --> 00:38:14.650
We kind of went quickly because we were on the

00:38:14.650 --> 00:38:16.170
way. We'll probably go have a podcast early next

00:38:16.170 --> 00:38:18.349
week. Yes, definitely. Since we're leaving. Definitely.

00:38:18.429 --> 00:38:20.909
Looking forward to it. We love you guys. And

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listening. Great way for Value for Value to help

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us out is send this podcast to other people who

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you think it might help. Our whole goal is to

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equip you to win in life, to have a victory mindset,

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and to live up in a down world. That's our heart

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for you, and I think that just about is a wrap.

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So thank you for listening today. Annette, any

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last word as we head out the door? I think we

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did good. I think that's exactly what people

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need to hear because I know I needed to hear

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it. There we go. All right. Preaching out of

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our experience. Listen, you guys have an amazing

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week on purpose. We love you. And never forget,

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we get to do this. We are out.