"Feeling The Fire!"

100:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,000Don't get down when you're seeing the worst,200:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,000cause the last will be first.300:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,000What a day I'm telling you,400:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,000all things will be new.500:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,000Living up in a down world.600:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,000Yeah we're living, yeah we're living,700:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,000living up in a down world.800:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,000Oh!900:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,000Hey friends, it's Dream Internet1000:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,000and we are here to hang out with you today.1100:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,000This is Living Up in a Down World.1200:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,000Thanks for joining us.1300:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000We so appreciate you listening to the program1400:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,000and participating with us, interacting with us,1500:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,000especially on our website,1600:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,000livingupinadownworld.com.1700:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000Keep them coming. We added several new folks.1800:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,000Hey Annette.1900:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,000Hey.2000:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,000How are you doing?2100:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,000A lot better than I was yesterday.2200:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,000You are stunning by the way.2300:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,000Honey.2400:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,000If only we were on video.2500:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,000No.2600:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,000A vlog, a vlog cast.2700:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,000No, no, no, no.2800:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,000A vlog cast.2900:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,000I'm sitting here in a tank top and shorts and no makeup.3000:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,000That's what I'm saying.3100:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,000My hair is dry from the pool cause we swam this morning.3200:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,000But I, no.3300:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,000You are beautiful inside and out.3400:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,000I appreciate that.3500:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,000Let's get to our show.3600:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,000What episode are we on?3700:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,000What episode?3800:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,000Number 28.3900:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,000Wow.4000:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,000Okay.4100:01:20,000 --> 00:01:25,000That means 28 weeks of doing, living up in a down world.4200:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,000That's good.4300:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,000That's really.4400:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,000We've hung in there.4500:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,000I know.4600:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000We had a little misfire yesterday.4700:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,000We tried this yesterday and we said no.4800:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,000It did not go well.4900:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,000We weren't feeling it.5000:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,000We weren't having a good day yesterday.5100:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,000This is one of those, there are days when they're, you know, you and I have a rhythm,5200:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,000right?5300:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,000We do.5400:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,000We didn't have that rhythm yesterday.5500:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,000It's funny cause people comment, it's like you guys finished each other's sentences and5600:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,000yesterday we were just off.5700:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,000Well, the weather was really dreary.5800:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,000I mean we had rain off and on.5900:01:52,000 --> 00:01:59,000And it just was dark in the house and it just felt, I don't know, it kind of gives you this6000:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,000state of depression.6100:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,000Even though we weren't depressed, it was just not a good day.6200:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,000You're a sunshine kind of girl.6300:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,000Oh, I do.6400:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,000I love the sun.6500:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,000You love the sun.6600:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,000I love the sun.6700:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,000Everybody else is whining.6800:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,000Which is why I have.6900:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,000It's 100 degrees and you're like, oh, let's go out.7000:02:15,000 --> 00:02:20,000Well, and I have two skin cancer spots, but they're gone.7100:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,000Yeah, yeah, yeah.7200:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,000I'm just taking care of, take care of myself in the sun, but sometimes it just happens.7300:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,000But I do, I need the sunshine.7400:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,000It brings my mood up.7500:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000I couldn't live in Seattle.7600:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,000I couldn't either.7700:02:33,000 --> 00:02:40,000First of all, for many reasons, not just the sun, just because that Seattle, yeah.7800:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,000Any.7900:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,000Well, we have a friend who lives in Washington state.8000:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,000Yeah.8100:02:45,000 --> 00:02:51,000He lives in Washington right across the, the what's it called the, the, the river Gorge.8200:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,000Yes.8300:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,000River Gorge.8400:02:53,000 --> 00:02:58,200Anyway, he lives right across from Portland and yeah, Portland's and he, it's really hard8500:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,000on him because he's depressed a lot.8600:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,000That's true.8700:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,000He does.8800:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,000He goes through really bad.8900:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,000Texas.9000:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,000You're not going to have that.9100:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,000You're going to have sunshine.9200:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,000I say Florida is the sunshine state.9300:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,000Texas is the sunshine state.9400:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,000Florida probably is too.9500:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,000It is.9600:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,000And I love Florida as well.9700:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,000So get me thinking about Destin.9800:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,000I know we could still go.9900:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,000We could still go.10000:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,000White beaches.10100:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,000We could, we should.10200:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,000Oh, by the way, the reason why we can just pick up and go is because we are on a two10300:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,000month sabbatical.10400:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,000Can we make it three?10500:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,000No, I'm really liking this.10600:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,000I know.10700:03:28,000 --> 00:03:35,000I think we should try to find someone for four more weeks, three months is, is that's10800:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,000the sweet spot.10900:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,000I'm thinking is, is this what retirement's like?11000:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,000Because if it is, it's not going to happen.11100:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,000I know you're right.11200:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,000It's not going to happen.11300:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,000It's not going to happen for us.11400:03:43,000 --> 00:03:49,000We, we literally, we can enjoy this, but I think we would just, we wouldn't have enough11500:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,000purpose.11600:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,000We need purpose.11700:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,000We're purpose.11800:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,000And we love people too much.11900:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,000I remember that book by Rick Warren, the purpose driven life.12000:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,000We're that.12100:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,000I mean, really are.12200:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,000Yes.12300:03:58,000 --> 00:04:03,000We're driven by the purpose and the purpose is the mission and the great commission, which12400:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,000is to go there for make disciples of all the nations.12500:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,000So what we're called to do.12600:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,000Exactly.12700:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,000So you're right.12800:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,000Yeah, this is nice.12900:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,000So we're enjoying it.13000:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,000We started week three today, actually.13100:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,000This is day 21 of what?13200:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,00060 days, 60 ish, a little 60, 60 or something like that.13300:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,00060.13400:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,000So yeah, a little over 60 days.13500:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,000And it has been such a blessing.13600:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,000I've told several people who've asked who said, Hey, so how's it going?13700:04:30,000 --> 00:04:35,000I'm like, this is the greatest gift in ministry that I've ever been given.13800:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,000Exactly.13900:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,000Somebody could give me a car.14000:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,000I could be excited about that.14100:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000They could give me a piece of equipment.14200:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,000I could be cool.14300:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,000Guitars.14400:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,000I've had guitars given to me.14500:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,000Nothing compares to this.14600:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,000No, it's really a nice gift of time.14700:04:47,000 --> 00:04:52,000Yes, I was going to say it's a nice gift of time and rest.14800:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,000Lots of rest.14900:04:53,000 --> 00:05:00,000Although we had company for a little while and it was heavy dealing with some family15000:05:00,000 --> 00:05:07,000that's going through some challenges in life from from past issues.15100:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,000And we were dealing with that with one of our family members.15200:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,000But I'm so glad they came to stay with us.15300:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,000Yes.15400:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,000I love what I'm not going to use a name.15500:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,000But I love what was said.15600:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,000Oh, FedEx is here.15700:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,000Don't say it out loud.15800:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,000I'll start barking.15900:05:26,000 --> 00:05:31,000So if the doorbell rings, it's because we've got like a ton of stuff coming today.16000:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,000When you live in the country like we live between Fredericksburg and Comfort or San16100:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000Antonio, so we live out in the country.16200:05:37,000 --> 00:05:42,000So Amazon Prime, everything online is our friend.16300:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000Well, today's like Christmas.16400:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000I know we were like, how did it?16500:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,000It's like a convergence.16600:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,000It's a prime.16700:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,000There it goes.16800:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,000Is it Amazon Prime Day where you get all your stuff at one time?16900:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,000I did.17000:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,000Oh, because I wanted less boxes.17100:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,000We don't.17200:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,000Thank you.17300:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,000Yes.17400:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,000Oh, my God.17500:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,000I did that on purpose because usually we go to the church and drop them off.17600:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,000But we haven't done that.17700:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,000Oh, good.17800:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,000Let's get back to.17900:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,000Yes.18000:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,000So great week last week.18100:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,000What was so beautiful is that two things that really stood out to me.18200:06:11,000 --> 00:06:18,000One, we felt like the Lord gave us the privilege of with one of our kids of sitting and letting18300:06:18,000 --> 00:06:24,000them process and unpack some trauma from the past and some things that have happened over18400:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,000the years.18500:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,000Didn't have anything to do with us personally.18600:06:27,000 --> 00:06:33,000It was things that happened to to them as a child and as an adult.18700:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,000Some as an adult as well.18800:06:34,000 --> 00:06:40,000And so we the Lord gave us the privilege of hosting them for the week and not being here18900:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000to talk, but being here to listen.19000:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,000Exactly.19100:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,000And that is what we did.19200:06:44,000 --> 00:06:50,000We spent the whole week listening and helping them process what they were going through19300:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,000in major breakthroughs.19400:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,000I'm so honestly, I mean, I wrote him.19500:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,000I'm journaling a lot right now because of the sabbatical.19600:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,000I've got this time and I love journaling.19700:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,000I've really picked it back up.19800:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,000I kind of let it go through the years getting busy with church and ministry and all that.19900:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,000You kind of just ends up being second, third, fourth, fifth down the line.20000:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,000And now I've been able to make that a primary thing.20100:07:14,000 --> 00:07:21,000But I've been able to journal things about last week that I'm just so grateful, grateful20200:07:21,000 --> 00:07:26,000that as parents, but also as peers kind of because our kids are grown now.20300:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,000They're not children anymore.20400:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,000They still.20500:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,000Sometimes we think of them that way, but now they're in a different season of life.20600:07:33,000 --> 00:07:38,000But I love that they trust us with challenges in their life.20700:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,000Isn't that the greatest way to honor your parents is to trust them?20800:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,000Yes, trust.20900:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,000Scripture says that we're to honor our parents and obey them in the Lord.21000:07:46,000 --> 00:07:52,000And the fact that all three of our kids trust us to tell us what's going on or to unpack21100:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,000things and offload things.21200:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,000We're here in this season of our lives, we're here for that.21300:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,000Yeah, right.21400:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,000To help them.21500:08:01,000 --> 00:08:07,000And but the second thing that was really encouraging to me, people have always said about our home21600:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,000that there's such peace.21700:08:09,000 --> 00:08:14,000We keep hearing that even from our own children, which is pretty incredible.21800:08:14,000 --> 00:08:20,000That encouraged me so much because that is what we desire is to have a home of peace21900:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,000or the Hebrew word is shalom.22000:08:23,000 --> 00:08:29,000And it simply means complete, whole, nothing missing, nothing broken, beautiful.22100:08:29,000 --> 00:08:37,000Not that we don't have broken things in our house, but we we really bathe our home in22200:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,000peace.22300:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,000Yeah, unless we come off sounding super spiritual, we have crap just like everybody else.22400:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,000It's just life happens and shift happens.22500:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,000I'll say it that way.22600:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,000You better be careful.22700:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,000I'll be very careful.22800:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,000I remember one time in church.22900:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,000One time in the pulpit, I did say the word.23000:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,000Yes, you did.23100:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000And it was and the whole church erupted.23200:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,000I think we had a bigger Sunday the next week because I were hoping you would do it again.23300:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,000I remember just after it happened, I stood there totally red faced.23400:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,000I just dropped the word and I said, come back to me, people.23500:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,000Come back.23600:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,000It was over.23700:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,000We just it's time to say a prayer and laugh and go home and love on each other.23800:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,000And do you remember?23900:09:15,000 --> 00:09:20,000Do you remember the one time we had someone come in and preach who who hasn't preached24000:09:20,000 --> 00:09:26,000at our church in years and he came in, he didn't tell us everything he was going to24100:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,000say.24200:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,000And he flipped the bird.24300:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,000Oh, my God.24400:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,000I'll never forget in church.24500:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,000Shock and awe.24600:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,000We were like, we're not going to have you back.24700:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,000I could not believe he did that.24800:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,000It was we should write a book on crazy stuff that's happened in church because we got a24900:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,000ton of stories.25000:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,000And he wasn't flipping the bird at people he was using.25100:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,000He was giving an illustration of something that happened to him.25200:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000But I'm like, yeah, you can go too far.25300:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,000You can go too far with a metaphor or illustration.25400:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,000Yes.25500:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,000He went a little far with a little far.25600:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,000And I love him.25700:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,000I love him.25800:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,000But that was one of our little unsettling.25900:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,000That was uncool.26000:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,000I don't even remember how the church responded.26100:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,000I think I felt the I felt the bare pressure in the room change.26200:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,000I was like all the oxygens went out of the room.26300:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,000I think it was just a shock.26400:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,000Just total shock.26500:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,000I'm glad I think that you don't do that from you and me.26600:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,000I probably.26700:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,000What did you just do?26800:10:21,000 --> 00:10:28,000So if you're a pastor or thinking about being in ministry, don't ever use the bird as an26900:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,000illustration.27000:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,000Exactly.27100:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,000That's how you kill a mood.27200:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,000I know.27300:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,000We're going to start laughing.27400:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,000Oh, man.27500:10:36,000 --> 00:10:41,000We have had some funny things happen.27600:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,000Freaking funny.27700:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,000So this week, Pastor Eddie spoke yesterday.27800:10:45,000 --> 00:10:50,000Jimmy, it was so hard for me because I wanted to get on and just listen to him.27900:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,000I did talk to Tina this morning and she said he was excellent.28000:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,000Can I set this up a little?28100:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,000Yeah, go ahead.28200:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,000Because not everybody who's listening knows what's going on.28300:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,000That's true.28400:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,000If you tuned in, it's like when you jump in the middle of a show or a series, we're on28500:11:02,000 --> 00:11:07,000our sabbatical and we're going by a rule book, a playbook, I'm calling it.28600:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,000We're running the play.28700:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,000So just use an athletic metaphor.28800:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,000Of course you're going to do that.28900:11:13,000 --> 00:11:18,000So we're running the play and the playbook was we're to completely separate from work,29000:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,000which that's what a sabbatical is or a Sabbath.29100:11:21,000 --> 00:11:26,000If you do a weekly Sabbath, which you should be doing if you're a follower of Jesus.29200:11:26,000 --> 00:11:32,000But the sabbatical is once every five to seven years, you actually take an extended period.29300:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,000So it's an extended Sabbath.29400:11:34,000 --> 00:11:42,000And the idea there is you unplug, you decompress, you rest, you disconnect, which is very hard29500:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,000for me being a pastoral pastor.29600:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,000Oh, and it's hard for me doing the business of the church.29700:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,000Right.29800:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,000So we both have our struggles that we're having to navigate.29900:11:51,000 --> 00:11:56,000Me, FOMO, hashtag FOMO, fear of missing out, which is a real thing.30000:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,000It's an actual condition.30100:11:57,000 --> 00:12:03,000I looked it up out of curiosity because I was feeling that when we first, like the week30200:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,000that we were about to start, I started feeling things.30300:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,000But you don't feel that now.30400:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,000You're actually doing better than I anticipated.30500:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,000I thought you were going to say better than you are.30600:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,000Well, that's true.30700:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,000You are a little bit.30800:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,000Maybe.30900:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,000Yeah.31000:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,000It's been harder.31100:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,000It has.31200:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,000It has.31300:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,000I've kind of just settled into it.31400:12:23,000 --> 00:12:28,000Like I've crawled into it into a metaphorical hammock and I'm drinking sweet tea on a summer31500:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,000day.31600:12:29,000 --> 00:12:34,000I mean, that's how I saw a big word came to me while I was journaling the other day.31700:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,000And it's the word receive.31800:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,000I had not thought about it.31900:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,000I used a lot of our words to express what a sabbatical is.32000:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,000Why our words?32100:12:43,000 --> 00:12:48,000Rest, restoration, recovery, rejuvenation, refilling.32200:12:48,000 --> 00:12:53,000And then I was writing in my journal, like the first week and the word receive.32300:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,000And I sort of wrote it not thinking.32400:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,000I was kind of free writing and I was like, that's it.32500:12:58,000 --> 00:13:06,000That's the essence because the nature of being in pastoral ministry is we give out nonstop32600:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,000almost to a fault sometimes.32700:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,000We give away so much.32800:13:10,000 --> 00:13:16,000In the scripture, Jesus made this comment or it says about Jesus in the book of John32900:13:16,000 --> 00:13:24,000that Jesus did not give himself to them or to man because he knew what was in man.33000:13:24,000 --> 00:13:29,000And there's a principle of balance and a healthy detachment, attachment.33100:13:29,000 --> 00:13:37,000Well, he would go away for a short amount or long amounts of time.33200:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,000He went away for 40 days on one shot.33300:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,000Just so that he could receive from the Lord.33400:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,000Because if you think about everything he's giving out and you have to have a time of33500:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,000receiving so that then you'll have enough to give out.33600:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,000And so he had many reprieves.33700:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,000Yeah, it says that he withdrew often to barren places.33800:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,000But we don't do that.33900:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,000To be with God.34000:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,000We go, go, go.34100:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,000And then we go on vacation and we go, go, go.34200:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,000I don't even, vacations don't excite me.34300:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,000No, but the beach kind of still does me.34400:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,000Only because I love to hear the roar of the beach.34500:14:12,000 --> 00:14:17,000If we wake up one morning and we are feeling it, let's just pack a very tiny bag.34600:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,000Hopefully Southwest miles will be kind to us.34700:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,000Yeah, right.34800:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,000Yeah, exactly.34900:14:21,000 --> 00:14:26,000And so we may end up doing a little beach trip just to do something on this.35000:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,000I didn't want to plan anything.35100:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,000No, and I don't.35200:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,000Right.35300:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,000I don't either.35400:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,000Not planning it.35500:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,000So anyway, that's what we're in the middle of.35600:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,000Well, I say in the middle, not even in the middle.35700:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,000So we're three weeks in.35800:14:37,000 --> 00:14:43,000It has been for me, I feel like I'm breathing air, fresh air, clean air.35900:14:43,000 --> 00:14:52,000I'm seeing God do some amazing things in you though that I haven't, I don't think I've ever witnessed to this extent.36000:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,000Thank you.36100:14:53,000 --> 00:14:58,000Because you're more excited about the Word than I've ever seen you.36200:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,000Not that you weren't before, but there is a...36300:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,000Oh, the Word of God is coming alive.36400:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,000It's so coming alive.36500:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,000And you're already like, okay, I want to do this series, I want to do this series, I want to do this.36600:15:08,000 --> 00:15:13,000And I'm like, okay, don't even talk about it till the very end because you're going to...36700:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,000So much.36800:15:14,000 --> 00:15:19,000It's going to culminate into something really beautiful by the time you're done.36900:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,000Thank you for saying that because that really is what's happening right now.37000:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,000The Word of God has come alive to me.37100:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,000Now, I'm activating something called Lectio Divina.37200:15:28,000 --> 00:15:36,000I'm stepping into a process of where you read, you meditate, you pray, and then you contemplate.37300:15:36,000 --> 00:15:43,000Not a long passage, but a short, like a one verse or even a phrase or a sentence like,37400:15:43,000 --> 00:15:50,000He leads me beside still waters, and instead of going on and reading the rest of Psalm 23, you stop.37500:15:50,000 --> 00:15:55,000And you meditate, you pray, and then you contemplate that.37600:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,000And then you journal about it, you write about it.37700:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,000It's a good way to express it.37800:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,000Then you start the cycle all over again with the next verse.37900:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,000So I'm slow reading the Bible.38000:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,000In fact, I had these ambitions when we started this.38100:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,000I was going to read some books.38200:16:11,000 --> 00:16:16,000But what I'm finding is that the Lord has slowed me down and said,38300:16:16,000 --> 00:16:21,000why do you think you've got to somehow check off a list of books to read?38400:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,000How about reading two verses?38500:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,000So I'm focusing on Psalm 23 right now.38600:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,000That's good.38700:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,000That's really good.38800:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,000The 23rd Psalm has...38900:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,000It's so packed with nuggets and wisdom.39000:16:34,000 --> 00:16:38,000What I will say about it is that years ago, I always kind of relegated that to,39100:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,000oh yeah, that's a nice, sweet sentiment.39200:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,000I don't know why.39300:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,000Maybe because it seemed overused in some context.39400:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,000As I've grown and gotten older and into this season,39500:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,000I'm beginning to see the power in that verse.39600:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,000You're making it personal.39700:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,000There you go.39800:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,000That's the difference.39900:16:57,000 --> 00:17:02,000When you make Scripture personal to you, it really does change everything.40000:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,000Speaking of personal,40100:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,000we got to go hang out with Adam and Tina Curry.40200:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,000I had a little segue there.40300:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,000Yes.40400:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,000Because we went to see a movie.40500:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,000What was the name of the movie?40600:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,000Sound of Freedom.40700:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,000Tell us your take on that movie because it blew my mind.40800:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,000Well, I saw it a couple of years ago.40900:17:20,000 --> 00:17:25,000Jim Caviezel came to Fredericksburg and showed it at a restaurant41000:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,000of some owners that come go to our church.41100:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,000We were invited and you weren't able to go.41200:17:31,000 --> 00:17:36,000I was able to attend and I was blown away by Jim's...41300:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,000Gosh.41400:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,000He is so...41500:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,000I mean, this movie is not just about doing a movie.41600:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,000It's in his heart.41700:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,000It's in his soul.41800:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,000It's his being.41900:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,000He was in the passion of Christ,42000:17:48,000 --> 00:17:53,000but there's more passion in just him talking about this movie42100:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,000and the impact it's made on his life.42200:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,000It's a story of Tim Ballard and he's amazing.42300:18:00,000 --> 00:18:07,000Amazing man of God who chose to step down from his career42400:18:07,000 --> 00:18:12,000in law enforcement and take on the challenge of finding42500:18:12,000 --> 00:18:17,000pedophiles but also finding the kids that these pedophiles42600:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,000are trafficking across the nation.42700:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,000It's amazing.42800:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,000In fact, I got on...42900:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,000When I told you I was online, I was researching something.43000:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,000I was looking.43100:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,000It's called Operation Railroad.43200:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,000Underground Railroad.43300:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,000Yeah.43400:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,000Which is O-U-R.43500:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,000I was looking at all their merchandise going,43600:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,000gosh, what can I do to help support?43700:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,000Because that's how you support them.43800:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,000Other ways to just sending money.43900:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,000They have merchandise.44000:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,000I was just looking at it going, Lord,44100:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,000what is it that you want us to do as a church,44200:18:51,000 --> 00:18:58,000as a couple to alleviate this horrific, horrific...44300:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,000What?44400:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,000I'll just say this.44500:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,000Okay, go ahead.44600:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,000For one, we can't go ourselves.44700:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,000No, no.44800:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,000That's not our call.44900:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,000It's not our lane.45000:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,000It's not our expertise.45100:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,000Right.45200:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000But we can, through finances and through resources,45300:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,000we can support those who are doing the work.45400:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,000Yes.45500:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,000And my heart, after seeing that movie again for the second time,45600:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,000because two years had passed...45700:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,000And they edited it.45800:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,000And they added a couple of things to it.45900:19:23,000 --> 00:19:30,000I came home and I was researching on YouTube some of the shorts46000:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,000and documentaries.46100:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,000I was mesmerized by it.46200:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,000I just continued to watch.46300:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,000I know they're working on another movie.46400:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,000Jim Caviezel said we watched.46500:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,000Jordan Peterson interviewed him and Tim Ballard.46600:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,000He expressed that he was working on the next movie,46700:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,000which is actually the first operative they did,46800:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,000which was in Haiti, which is going to be in the second movie.46900:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,000And I'm just...47000:19:57,000 --> 00:20:04,000I guess I'm so enamored by people who have a call on their life47100:20:04,000 --> 00:20:08,000that isn't that strong, that they're willing to make a difference47200:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,000and give up their own life for kids.47300:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,000He quit his job.47400:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,000He was a federal agent, a border patrol agent who dealt with47500:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,000pedophiles, but as he stepped into that job, he did that for47600:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,00010 or 12 years.47700:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,000Yes, and he gave up his pension.47800:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,000Who does that?47900:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,000He was what, a few months away from getting his full pension48000:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,000from retirement.48100:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,000He said around $12 million is what he...48200:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,000It would have been ridiculous.48300:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,000And his wife said no.48400:20:39,000 --> 00:20:45,000I mean, what wife says this is more important than our retirement?48500:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,000Go save the kids.48600:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,000Save these children.48700:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,000We can't wait.48800:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000It was so impactful.48900:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,000So why do you think, though, there's been massive pushback49000:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,000from the media?49100:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,000Well, because I believe that the media has something to do with it.49200:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,000I think there's people...49300:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,000I mean, Tim alluded to that in the documentary.49400:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,000There are people benefiting in high places in our nation who are49500:21:12,000 --> 00:21:17,000benefiting from this child sex trafficking industry.49600:21:17,000 --> 00:21:22,000And their executives, he said their clergymen, their judges,49700:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000their law enforcement.49800:21:24,000 --> 00:21:29,000It's unbelievable that our world is so corrupt.49900:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,000But it always has been.50000:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,000It's never changed.50100:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,000My adrenaline just gets up where I just want to go.50200:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,000I want to go country boy, let's go out behind the barn and deal50300:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,000with this.50400:21:41,000 --> 00:21:46,000This is the stuff that fires me up because it is the atrocities50500:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000that are happening to children.50600:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,000Can you imagine having one of your children or all of your children50700:21:52,000 --> 00:21:58,000stolen, taken, kidnapped for the sole purpose of sex trafficking them50800:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,000to a bunch of freaking perverts?50900:22:01,000 --> 00:22:11,000No, I was reading a news document on my iPhone the other day and51000:22:11,000 --> 00:22:17,000there was a girl, a 13-year-old girl that was, I think she was51100:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,000just walking home from school or walking home in San Antonio,51200:22:21,000 --> 00:22:26,000which is 30 miles from here, and a gentleman, not gentleman,51300:22:26,000 --> 00:22:33,000a monster freak picked her up, sexually molested her.51400:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,000She ended up putting a sign, they took her all the way to51500:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,000California.51600:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,000She put a sign up while he was in the laundromat washing clothes51700:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,000that says, please help me.51800:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,000And they were able to call the police and get this monster.51900:22:47,000 --> 00:22:52,000First of all, praise God that she had the mindset and was aware52000:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,000of what to do to get rescued.52100:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,000But now knowing the damage that's done to her psyche and her52200:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,000heart and her spirit.52300:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,000Is she going to trust men again?52400:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,000I know, it's like Lord Jesus, help us.52500:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,000And there's so many more stories out there.52600:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,000I know, thousands, hundreds of thousands, unfortunately.52700:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,000Because I said there's probably over a million pedophiles,52800:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,000a million.52900:23:16,000 --> 00:23:21,000And guess who, guess what nation is the biggest purchaser and53000:23:21,000 --> 00:23:29,000serve what he called the biggest who purchases the most,53100:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,000so to speak?53200:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,000The US.53300:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,000The United States of America.53400:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,000What?53500:23:34,000 --> 00:23:39,000Because we're so privileged, but we don't, we can't.53600:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,000There needs to be a death blow to this industry.53700:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,000We always need something else.53800:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,000We're not satisfied with anything.53900:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,000We always want the bigger, better thing.54000:23:49,000 --> 00:23:58,000The fact though that all the major news outlets have literally54100:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000ghosted this organization.54200:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,000Exactly.54300:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,000And this movie, which has already made over $100 million,54400:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,000flew past.54500:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,000Is it still on?54600:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,000I hope it is.54700:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,000I think they had to extend it because so many people are going54800:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,000to see it now.54900:24:12,000 --> 00:24:18,000But I think the enemy, the devil, always overplays his hand.55000:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,000Always.55100:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,000And I think the massive public resistance, not from people,55200:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,000but from a handful of news outlets against this,55300:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,000Rolling Stone Magazine, New York Times.55400:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,000They claim that it's not really happening.55500:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,000Yeah.55600:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,000They're like, oh, those people are delusional.55700:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,000This stuff's not real.55800:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,000This isn't real in the US.55900:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,000The only person, the only kind of people that would say something56000:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,000like that are pedophiles.56100:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,000I'm just going to say it out loud.56200:24:43,000 --> 00:24:49,000Is because they're protecting something.56300:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,000Why would you ghost something?56400:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,000I cannot believe someone who could be so inhumane as to think56500:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,000that it's okay to rape.56600:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,000And some of the descriptions that have happened to these children56700:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,000remind me of these.56800:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,000Or use these kids for organs.56900:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,000And they videotape them.57000:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,000Yes.57100:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,000And they send it out on the dark web and all these freaks and57200:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,000perverts are getting off on watching these kids being raped.57300:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,000Are getting off on watching these kids getting their bones broken.57400:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,000Right.57500:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,000I mean, it gets me really angry.57600:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,000Well, this is probably an area that gets you more angry than57700:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,000anything since I've known you.57800:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,000Well, because I worked in the children in a foster care agency.57900:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,000I did too.58000:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,000Two foster care agencies.58100:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,000But you worked directly with the kids.58200:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,000I worked in foster care with children who had been so horrifically abused.58300:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,000And the things you read to me.58400:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,000I've seen the damage.58500:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,000Yes.58600:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,000And have walked with children through this.58700:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,000So, yeah, this is near and dear to my heart.58800:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,000But I believe it's more so near and dear to Jesus' heart.58900:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,000It sure is.59000:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,000And people would say, why didn't God just intervene?59100:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,000Because He gave us a will.59200:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,000Gave us a free will.59300:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,000Love isn't love unless it's freedom.59400:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,000And so unfortunately, freedom works both ways.59500:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,000Freedom works in you're free to and you're free not to.59600:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,000Right.59700:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,000You're free to surrender and you're free to resist.59800:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,000And so for those who have resisted God and resisted God's willing59900:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,000and God's call on their life, they fall.60000:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,000I mean, when you're in sin, you're insane.60100:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,000Right.60200:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,000I'll never forget someone saying that to us years ago.60300:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,000And it sure makes sense.60400:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,000You're insane.60500:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,000Right.60600:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,000So those that have rejected God and rejected righteousness60700:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,000and rejected right living and rejected Jesus,60800:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000they fall into that category.60900:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,000They literally lose all sense of there's no moral compass.61000:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,000There's no true north.61100:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,000There's no absolutes.61200:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,000And they fall into, and they become, I mean, the Bible is just real straight.61300:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,000They become reprobates.61400:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,000And I know I'm going strong here, but it's family.61500:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,000Those listening, there are children today,61600:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,000thousands and thousands of them being abused.61700:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,000One of the things Tim Ballard said in one of the interviews we watched61800:27:10,000 --> 00:27:16,000is that these kids, these freak pedophiles and these pimps,61900:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,000they'll have these children have sex five and ten times a night.62000:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,000They can make more money off of a child than they can a drug deal.62100:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,000Exactly.62200:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,000Because a drug deal is one time.62300:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,000So they're like, forget drugs.62400:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,000We're going to human trafficked.62500:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,000This is a better way.62600:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,000So anyway, underground, what's it?62700:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,000Tim Ballard.62800:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,000Oh gosh.62900:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,000Operation Underground Railroad.63000:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,000I had to go.63100:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,000Oh, you are.63200:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,000Look it up. Google it.63300:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000And go see the movie.63400:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,000Go see the movie.63500:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,000We went to support the movie.63600:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,000And we want movies like this in the theater.63700:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,000We want awareness.63800:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,000But we also want people to make a difference.63900:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,000Do something.64000:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000Don't just be aware.64100:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,000Ask God, what is it that I can do in this situation?64200:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,000If it's buy merchandise, if it's send money to them, if it's praying.64300:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,000I mean, whatever it is, do something.64400:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,000Don't just, let's just don't just sit here and think, well, it's not in our backyard.64500:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,000It's in our backyard.64600:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,000And I would say this as an encouragement.64700:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,000Don't go see the movie to be entertained.64800:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000It's not an entertainment.64900:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000But go to be informed.65000:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,000Go to learn.65100:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,000Go to be made aware of what is happening.65200:28:28,000 --> 00:28:35,000Don't just go and just see it as a movie movie where you're just trying to be entertained.65300:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,000That's not the point.65400:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,000The point is awareness.65500:28:37,000 --> 00:28:42,000And we've got to make people aware of these atrocities that are happening.65600:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,000And so, yeah, I'm fired up about it.65700:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,000I'm angry about it.65800:28:47,000 --> 00:28:54,000But also I'm saying, Holy Spirit, lead me and guide me into what we're how to channel this energy65900:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000into something that makes a difference.66000:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,000And he will.66100:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000I totally already see it coming.66200:28:59,000 --> 00:29:05,000I'm not going to say it out loud, but I already know there'll be some some action involved with this.66300:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,000So go see the movie.66400:29:07,000 --> 00:29:15,000So thankful that our dearest friends on the planet, Adam and Tina Curry, went with us and we were all able to be.66500:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000And when we were walking out of the movie, it was real quiet.66600:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,000Do you notice?66700:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,000It was very quiet.66800:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,000So here's what's really interesting.66900:29:21,000 --> 00:29:32,000Right next door to the movie we were in watching this incredible alarming sound, the car sound, the alarm right next to us,67000:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,000literally two feet away.67100:29:34,000 --> 00:29:41,000The door was to the Barbie movie, which a lot of people I've seen on Facebook who love this.67200:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,000The heck that is going on in our world.67300:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000I know.67400:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,000I know.67500:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,000I don't know what to say.67600:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,000I don't even know what to say.67700:29:49,000 --> 00:29:54,000We don't watch TV much because we don't have we don't even have cable or anything anymore.67800:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,000But there's some kind of draw, but I don't know what it is.67900:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,000Maybe someone can enlighten me what that is.68000:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,000But honestly, maybe it's just pure entertainment.68100:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,000So I'll walk out because, you know, I got teeny bladder syndrome.68200:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000Right.68300:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,000I wanted to twice.68400:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,000So I had to walk because the movie's three hours long.68500:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000You get your money's worth three hours long.68600:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,000So I had to get a go out a couple of times.68700:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,000I go out in the hallway.68800:30:20,000 --> 00:30:27,000There's these two girls standing outside the theater to go into the Barbie movie and they're taking selfies.68900:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,000And they're doing video probably.69000:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,000Everybody's wearing pink and they're wearing pink and high heels.69100:30:32,000 --> 00:30:43,000And I'm like, I just walked out of seeing a child gets two children get stolen, thrown into a van, abused, taken to South America.69200:30:43,000 --> 00:30:48,000So I come out and I'm just like, my world's been rocked and I'm seeing these girls.69300:30:48,000 --> 00:30:54,000The juxtaposition of the Barbie movie and that's good entertainment for people.69400:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,000But I mean, I just don't know because we don't know.69500:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,000I'm going to calm down right now because that can fire.69600:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,000There are there are things to consider.69700:31:04,000 --> 00:31:12,000I mean, as as humans, we need to know what's going on and we need to get we need to find a cause that we can get.69800:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,000I wrap our mind around and do something about a difference.69900:31:16,000 --> 00:31:24,000Which right now, one of our causes is what I love Adam Curry doing on with no agenda is deconstructing the media.70000:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,000Yes. Sorry, I said it, but it is what it is.70100:31:28,000 --> 00:31:35,000It is. There's so much misinformation, you know, propaganda is the word.70200:31:35,000 --> 00:31:42,000And because of Adam's background and understanding into various agencies of the government,70300:31:42,000 --> 00:31:47,000turns out his parents were employed and he didn't find out till he was 17.70400:31:47,000 --> 00:31:52,000He has seen from the inside, not just he's not the outside looking in.70500:31:52,000 --> 00:31:58,000He's not reading, you know, watching YouTube videos to get his information.70600:31:58,000 --> 00:32:07,000He's literally lived this and realized that the propaganda machine that's out there that is generating false information70700:32:07,000 --> 00:32:14,000for various purposes that are nefarious and dark and.70800:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,000It's mind bending. It is really.70900:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,000I love Adam fact, he and I have a bro date. I know to happen in tonight.71000:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,000Super excited. What are you going to do if you run into 10 people from the church?71100:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,000No, not on Monday night, not in town on Monday night.71200:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,000So anyway, so we're going to go out to eat together.71300:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,000He and I, we're just going to continue to unpack what God's up to in our lives.71400:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,000But but I just so appreciate what he's doing.71500:32:38,000 --> 00:32:44,000He and John Dvorak with no agenda where they are literally deconstructing what's going on in this world,71600:32:44,000 --> 00:32:51,000which is that issue with sex trafficking, sound of freedom, also the trends.71700:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,000Oh, my gosh.71800:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,000Don't get me going. Go listen to no agenda.71900:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,000I know this is not no agenda. We have an agenda.72000:32:59,000 --> 00:33:04,000I know. But hearing hearing our.72100:33:04,000 --> 00:33:09,000Leaders say it's OK to have.72200:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,000These dancing. This is not the drag show I grew up in.72300:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,000I grew up in America. It's an abomination to the Lord is what it is.72400:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,000It's an abomination to the Lord.72500:33:20,000 --> 00:33:26,000Why in the world would any body with any sense say this is OK?72600:33:26,000 --> 00:33:31,000I'm sorry. No, no, no. I'm having a I'm pulling up Romans chapter one right now.72700:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,000Oh, you're going there, aren't you? We need to go there.72800:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,000I mean, we need to quit being so passive about things.72900:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,000Romans chapter one. So clear, so strong.73000:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000The whole chapter, the whole chapter.73100:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,000But but I want to I want to go into one place in particular here.73200:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,000And it's talking about God's wrath on unrighteousness.73300:33:53,000 --> 00:33:58,000This is for the wrath of God is refilled from heaven against all ungodliness73400:33:58,000 --> 00:34:03,000and unrighteousness of men who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.73500:34:03,000 --> 00:34:08,000For what can be known about God is plain to them because God has shown it to them73600:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,000for his invisible attributes, namely his eternal powers, divine nature,73700:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,000have been clearly perceived ever since the creation of the world73800:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,000and the things that have been made so that they are without excuse.73900:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,000Wow. The world is without excuse.74000:34:22,000 --> 00:34:30,000God has shown himself in the clouds, in the mountain, in beauty, in aesthetics, in art.74100:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,000I mean, I listen to what's what's interesting to me as a follower of Christ.74200:34:35,000 --> 00:34:40,000When I was young, I burned all my you know, I got trashed all my records.74300:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,000CD or no, it would have been eight tracks and albums back in the day.74400:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,000I trashed all those thinking I was doing something for God.74500:34:46,000 --> 00:34:51,000But missing the fact that the Imago Dei, the creative nature of God's in all of man,74600:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,000we are been created in the image of God.74700:34:54,000 --> 00:35:02,000And so whether it's a song by John Coltrane or a song by Journey or whatever,74800:35:02,000 --> 00:35:10,000there is the element and the grace of God in the midst of this genius, musical genius and an art genius.74900:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,000So listen to this. This is what was really scary.75000:35:13,000 --> 00:35:18,000It says for although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him,75100:35:18,000 --> 00:35:23,000but they became futile in their thinking and their foolish hearts were darkened,75200:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,000claiming to be wise. They became fools.75300:35:27,000 --> 00:35:32,000Wow. That's what I see going on with the World Economic Forum and all these things.75400:35:32,000 --> 00:35:38,000Listen to that phrase, claiming to be wise. They became fools.75500:35:38,000 --> 00:35:49,000That's Romans 1 22 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.75600:35:49,000 --> 00:35:56,000In other words, we've exchanged the glory of God for stuff, right? For other things.75700:35:56,000 --> 00:36:01,000Then look what it says in verse 24. Is he is Mr. Chevy falling? Yes.75800:36:01,000 --> 00:36:07,000Again, he tends to fall through that chair. Listen to this in Romans 1 24.75900:36:07,000 --> 00:36:17,000Therefore, God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves.76000:36:17,000 --> 00:36:25,000That reeks of the trans issue to me. They're giving up and dishonoring their bodies.76100:36:25,000 --> 00:36:35,000Because in verse 25, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the creator.76200:36:35,000 --> 00:36:41,000Wow. That's man worshiping man. Who is blessed forever.76300:36:41,000 --> 00:36:53,000And it says for this reason, God gave them up to dishonorable passions for their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature.76400:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,000Right. What? Exactly. Let's just say it for what it is.76500:36:57,000 --> 00:37:05,000This is the gay trans issue and they gave up their their passions that God gave them.76600:37:05,000 --> 00:37:17,000They gave them up for dishonorable passions and the men, verse 27, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another.76700:37:17,000 --> 00:37:27,000Men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.76800:37:27,000 --> 00:37:37,000And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.76900:37:37,000 --> 00:37:42,000You can't get any more clear than that goes on. I'm going to stop there, but it just goes on.77000:37:42,000 --> 00:37:52,000And this is, you know, when something comes up in your face and you're informed, you go, wait a minute, I've heard this before.77100:37:52,000 --> 00:37:59,000This is not new. It feels new because it's current and relevant happening right now under our nose.77200:37:59,000 --> 00:38:04,000But this is something that was spoken about the first century. Exactly.77300:38:04,000 --> 00:38:11,000This is not new. Nothing's new under the sun. Everything comes. Solomon said that there's nothing new under the sun.77400:38:11,000 --> 00:38:19,000So anyway, you know, to watch our world go through this in our lifetime.77500:38:19,000 --> 00:38:27,000I mean, I'm glad my mom passed away a few years ago because I honestly I don't know how she would have handled it.77600:38:27,000 --> 00:38:33,000Couldn't have it. I know it couldn't have. It's.77700:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,000So disheartening, but God, there it is.77800:38:37,000 --> 00:38:46,000You know, every generation has its challenges, right? I mean, we all every generation has a new thing, a new hurdle to overcome.77900:38:46,000 --> 00:38:55,000But but new levels of debauchery and new new levels of darkness that arise, you know, one generation, it's getting you're growing your hair out long.78000:38:55,000 --> 00:39:00,000All of a sudden, that's the worst thing ever. The next generation, it's cutting yourself down.78100:39:00,000 --> 00:39:05,000This generation, it's sex trafficking and human trafficking and child trafficking.78200:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,000It's it's like, where does this end?78300:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,000And at some point, the world is spinning up.78400:39:11,000 --> 00:39:17,000We were listening and watching a video on YouTube with Jimmy Evans, Pastor Jimmy Evans, tipping point Trinity Church.78500:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,000Boy, was he talking about the end days, the end of time.78600:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,000And he's like, he's convinced that we're there.78700:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,000Close. Yeah, he says we're there.78800:39:26,000 --> 00:39:31,000We're there because of the debauchery, because of how dark it's always darkest before the dawn.78900:39:31,000 --> 00:39:38,000Right. What I as hard as all this is to take and stomach and navigate and process,79000:39:38,000 --> 00:39:49,000there's also this idea and hope and belief that there's going to be an end time harvest of people coming to know Christ and turning to Jesus like we've never seen.79100:39:49,000 --> 00:39:54,000Well, it's it's like what we're seeing in Southern California right now.79200:39:54,000 --> 00:39:59,000I mean, think about all California off. Right.79300:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,000What have I been saying? I know. Don't write California off.79400:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,000Now, politically, write them off.79500:40:04,000 --> 00:40:17,000Spiritually, don't because God has had his hand on that state for decades since 1901 with the Azusa Street revivals and Pastor William Seymour.79600:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,000Most of the revivals came out of California and those revivals, by the way, started in Wales.79700:40:21,000 --> 00:40:31,000They were the Welsh revivals and they came over to the United States and they landed in of all places, a little black church.79800:40:31,000 --> 00:40:37,000Call the on a zoos on the corner of Azusa Street and God showed up in miraculous ways.79900:40:37,000 --> 00:40:42,000My attitude right now is God do it again. Yes. God do it again.80000:40:42,000 --> 00:40:47,000And as believers, we need to be praying that we don't need to stick our head in the sand.80100:40:47,000 --> 00:40:54,000We need to be praying for revival and we don't need to get on social media and just peck out on a keyboard, you know, all of our anger.80200:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,000You know, we've released some frustration today.80300:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,000But but it's just real. It's it's heartfelt.80400:41:00,000 --> 00:41:05,000And it's I'm not mad at anyone. I'm mad. There's a real enemy out there.80500:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,000They're wanting to destroy. I'm mad at the devil.80600:41:08,000 --> 00:41:14,000I'm mad at his cohorts and this host. Yes. Dark host of the demonic realm.80700:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,000I'm mad at that. I'm mad at them. I'm not mad at people.80800:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,000People are being used as pawns in this.80900:41:21,000 --> 00:41:31,000And so our heart is to see redemption for all and people to turn totally turn from all this wickedness and turn to God.81000:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,000That's the only peace they're ever going to receive.81100:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,000There you go. Did we just solve all the problems of the world?81200:41:38,000 --> 00:41:43,000I think so. So anyway, just so so grateful to Adam, Tina.81300:41:43,000 --> 00:41:52,000We were able to go together about the I remember walking out the doors of that theater in San Antonio and just there was a lot of silence.81400:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,000It was hard to talk. It's hard to express your heart.81500:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,000You know, there's time to be silent. You know, and that was that was that time.81600:42:00,000 --> 00:42:07,000And just love those guys and such a sweet time with them.81700:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,000You're looking at the time.81800:42:11,000 --> 00:42:19,000So one thing I wanted to talk about is we we were so blessed.81900:42:19,000 --> 00:42:29,000One of the things we're doing during our sabbatical, just so you know, we were instructed and we're following the playbook not to go to church anywhere, which is really hard.82000:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,000It's strange for us. It's because churches are life.82100:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,000I mean, that's for 38 years. It's been my life longer than that.82200:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,000Yeah. Yeah. Longer than that.82300:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,000So so we've been honoring that.82400:42:42,000 --> 00:42:51,000But we so we've been going online and listening to different messages and we're part of the Gateway Church's network or network of churches.82500:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,000They call it Gateway Network of Churches.82600:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,000We're part of that. And so we've been watching what's going on at Gateway.82700:42:57,000 --> 00:43:05,000So Charlotte Gamble, she's from England and she spoke at Gateway this last weekend.82800:43:05,000 --> 00:43:10,000And we watched that message, which I've never heard her before. Oh, man.82900:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,000Wow. We were blown. We were blown away.83000:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,000We were blown away. I don't think I've ever heard.83100:43:15,000 --> 00:43:25,000She she preached on the passage of Zacchaeus in Great Leary, which I don't know if I've ever heard anyone preach on Zacchaeus the way she did.83200:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,000The way she did. No, I'm not really really good. Yeah.83300:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,000She extricated some things that were amazing. Amazing.83400:43:32,000 --> 00:43:38,000Yes. So I'll give you the short version. I'd love for you to share your your feelings on this.83500:43:38,000 --> 00:43:44,000Seek, stay, stand. Talk about that for a minute.83600:43:44,000 --> 00:43:51,000What did you get out of it? Well, I love the fact that Zacchaeus, he wanted to see Jesus.83700:43:51,000 --> 00:43:59,000And he because he heard he was there in the city he was part of and he had heard about all these miracles.83800:43:59,000 --> 00:44:08,000And so he was he had tried to he went to like let's just call it like a little revival.83900:44:08,000 --> 00:44:16,000If we were going to put it in our crowd, there's a crowd there, but he's a short person, much like me.84000:44:16,000 --> 00:44:25,000And so he decides that he is going to he knows that Jesus is going to leave that revival and the revival,84100:44:25,000 --> 00:44:31,000the crowd and be walking to the to go to the next area.84200:44:31,000 --> 00:44:42,000And he decides to climb a tree. OK, for one, I would not think about climbing a tree so I could see.84300:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,000See, I would would probably just give up and say, you know what?84400:44:46,000 --> 00:44:51,000I can't see, which is what happens to me a lot of times when I go to a concert or something, I just can't see.84500:44:51,000 --> 00:44:58,000And I'll just sometimes I'll just sit down. I don't pay attention to the people around me.84600:44:58,000 --> 00:45:07,000And so what I'll do is I'll just sit there and I'll miss out on what maybe God wants me to hear or see.84700:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,000But Zacchaeus decided to climb a tree.84800:45:10,000 --> 00:45:17,000And it just so happens that Jesus was walking by that tree and it says he stopped at a spot.84900:45:17,000 --> 00:45:25,000And I love the fact that she said this a spot like like he had if you if you think about Jesus,85000:45:25,000 --> 00:45:32,000he he could have had security around if you if you look at today, let's put him in today's terms.85100:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,000You would have security around him. And they're like, OK, there's a guy that wants to see you.85200:45:36,000 --> 00:45:41,000He's on tree number three. You know, the way she described him, it was hilarious.85300:45:41,000 --> 00:45:50,000But I believe this is what I love about Jesus is he knew that there was someone that needed what he had.85400:45:50,000 --> 00:45:57,000And so what he did, which which is what I love is is Zacchaeus.85500:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,000He called him by his name.85600:46:00,000 --> 00:46:12,000That was so powerful to me to read it the way she told the story, because it says that in the word of God, he knew his name.85700:46:12,000 --> 00:46:17,000Why? Because if you think about that, Jesus knows our name.85800:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,000He knows all of our needs. He knows where we are.85900:46:20,000 --> 00:46:25,000He knows our struggles. He knows when we're celebrating.86000:46:25,000 --> 00:46:32,000But he he looked up where Zacchaeus was in the tree and he called him and.86100:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,000He knew his name that that was the first thing that stood out to me.86200:46:36,000 --> 00:46:42,000So powerful, which I what I love about Zacchaeus is he was seeking the Lord.86300:46:42,000 --> 00:46:48,000Yes. In fact, the way Charlotte put it, I want to say these points because they're so powerful.86400:46:48,000 --> 00:46:53,000Three points seek to see. Think about that. Seek to see.86500:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,000And what are you seeking to see? What are you seeking to see?86600:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,000I mean, what a question to ask myself.86700:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,000What am I seeking to see? Am I seeking to see him?86800:47:03,000 --> 00:47:09,000Or am I seeking to see something else that to fill a void or to fill an empty space in my life?86900:47:09,000 --> 00:47:13,000Am I seeking other things? But am I seeking to see him?87000:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,000And that's what Zacchaeus said.87100:47:15,000 --> 00:47:26,000He was seeking because he heard him do all these miraculous things and people, you know, in the city just enamored by what they're seeing.87200:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,000He's like, wait, I've got to go see what they're seeing.87300:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,000And that's exactly what he did. He climbed a tree.87400:47:32,000 --> 00:47:40,000I just think of how I mean, think about it when we seek to see something that we really will do whatever we will.87500:47:40,000 --> 00:47:45,000We'll board a plane and fly to Nashville to go see Journey in Toto.87600:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,000Right. Oh, no, let me give you a better example.87700:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,000We went to Utah. We were part of the set on The Chosen.87800:47:52,000 --> 00:47:57,000And we could see this where they were doing having a scene.87900:47:57,000 --> 00:48:03,000And so what did we do? The tour guide that was with us and we were the only ones who showed up.88000:48:03,000 --> 00:48:09,000They were supposed to have a busload of people show up for this tour guide and for the tour.88100:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,000And something happened. Somebody had told. So it just happens to be you and I.88200:48:13,000 --> 00:48:17,000And he says, let's climb up. We climbed. I'll never forget it.88300:48:17,000 --> 00:48:23,000We climbed up on the roof. Yeah. Movie set. Yes. We're up on the roof in the catwalk.88400:48:23,000 --> 00:48:29,000Yes. And we're looking down and we're we have a bird's eye view.88500:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,000That was crazy. It was amazing. But yeah, I have to see.88600:48:33,000 --> 00:48:40,000I have not climbed a tree, but we did climb the catwalk. We went through some crazy things.88700:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,000I was thinking OSHA would not appreciate this. No, no.88800:48:43,000 --> 00:48:48,000This is dangerous. Yeah. At one point, I think and they let us take pictures.88900:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,000And finally, they said, OK, you all need to you all need to move.89000:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,000Like the producer came up there and said, hey, you guys are kind of in the shot.89100:48:55,000 --> 00:49:00,000You're distracting. You're photobombing the movie. I know. It's kind of funny.89200:49:00,000 --> 00:49:05,000It was fun. But you know what? We were seeking to see. We wanted to see.89300:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,000I wanted to be a part of it. I totally forgot about that.89400:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,000So the second point is seek to see is the first great metaphor.89500:49:11,000 --> 00:49:18,000The second one is seek to stay. Yes. Seek to stay because Jesus, when he saw Zach, he is he stopped and he said,89600:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,000I'm staying at your place, which is I'm staying.89700:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,000I can't even imagine Jesus saying something like that. He didn't even know him, but he called him by name.89800:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,000He already said yes. So he calls him by name and says, I'm staying at your place.89900:49:30,000 --> 00:49:35,000Yes. Whoa. I would be like, wait, what am I?90000:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,000I got to fix dinner. I've got to I've got to clean up the house.90100:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,000I would have gone into Martha mode and I'm Mary.90200:49:42,000 --> 00:49:48,000You're Martha. That's for sure. But I love that because I think of also when Jesus.90300:49:48,000 --> 00:49:53,000When when we acknowledge him, he seeks to stay in our life.90400:49:53,000 --> 00:49:58,000He wants to stay with us at all times.90500:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,000He doesn't he's never going to leave.90600:50:01,000 --> 00:50:08,000He's never going to forsake us or we can recognize that he is staying with us at all times.90700:50:08,000 --> 00:50:14,000And what that should provoke in us and inspire in us is our desire to stay in him.90800:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,000Him stay where he's called us to be.90900:50:17,000 --> 00:50:25,000Yes. And that's the sad part is that so many people will bail and leave or quit.91000:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,000Yes. Before the blessing ever comes.91100:50:28,000 --> 00:50:33,000How many people do that? I mean, we we see people do that all the time or they'll be in a church91200:50:33,000 --> 00:50:42,000and they'll be like, yeah, I'm not getting anything out of this, which usually it's because they're not seeking to stay.91300:50:42,000 --> 00:50:48,000They're already looking elsewhere and then they'll just bail on the first, you know, the first thing that comes up.91400:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,000Oh, yeah, I knew I was supposed to go. So think about it this way.91500:50:51,000 --> 00:50:58,000There are some things that you will never see unless you choose to stay. Exactly.91600:50:58,000 --> 00:51:03,000There's a book out right now. I'm trying to remember the author to a new book called Raise to Stay.91700:51:03,000 --> 00:51:09,000And she she's has gone through and she's part of that millennial generation.91800:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,000She was on staff at Life Church out in Colorado Springs.91900:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,000We love to have high value for that church.92000:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,000Pastor Grady Boyd, wonderful, wonderful church.92100:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,000She's one of the worship leaders out there.92200:51:20,000 --> 00:51:25,000And she said that as a millennial, she had many times, many opportunities to be offended through the years92300:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,000doing church life and being on staff at a church.92400:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,000But she believed that God raised her to stay.92500:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,000And so she wrote a book about it, about the power of staying.92600:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,000Wow. Power of not quitting. I see a power of not giving up. Sermon series there.92700:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,000Raise to stay. Isn't that great?92800:51:44,000 --> 00:51:49,000But really think about it. There's something you'll never see unless you choose to stay.92900:51:49,000 --> 00:51:54,000Here's another way to say it. When you leave before God's timing,93000:51:54,000 --> 00:51:59,000you'll miss what God wanted you to see in that season and in that place. Right.93100:51:59,000 --> 00:52:05,000Oh, my gosh. How many stories do we have about that of people who came to us or didn't come to us?93200:52:05,000 --> 00:52:10,000They just quit and left the church or they came to this pastor, I just feel led to go somewhere else,93300:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,000not getting fed here. I'm going to end. I'm like, wow.93400:52:14,000 --> 00:52:19,000Most of the time they're telling that to someone else, not us. That's true. That's true. Very few times.93500:52:19,000 --> 00:52:27,000And it's like, well, what if God was causing calling you to not just be fed, but you to feed? Exactly.93600:52:27,000 --> 00:52:32,000Give me a break. It's like, come on, you've got something to contribute. Exactly.93700:52:32,000 --> 00:52:39,000But so many people because we're in a consumeristic, we are consumers. We're consumers. This is America.93800:52:39,000 --> 00:52:45,000I just buy what I want when I want. We we got FedEx showing up during the show.93900:52:45,000 --> 00:52:51,000We'll probably have UPS. We'll probably mail mailman will be coming anytime.94000:52:51,000 --> 00:52:56,000I mean, my phone, my thing just went off. Anyway, all this stuff's going on.94100:52:56,000 --> 00:53:03,000And it's because we're consumeristic. But we take that into our faith life and we go to a church.94200:53:03,000 --> 00:53:08,000God never meant that to have churches. Oh, my gosh.94300:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,000Maybe maybe God has called you to stay.94400:53:12,000 --> 00:53:18,000Maybe God has raised you to stay. Jesus came to stay with Zacchaeus.94500:53:18,000 --> 00:53:23,000But Zacchaeus also had to take a step and say, I'm going to stay with you.94600:53:23,000 --> 00:53:30,000I'm not going to let go. What's the third? The third one is seek to stand and seek to stand.94700:53:30,000 --> 00:53:36,000In Luke 19 eight, we read that Zacchaeus stood up.94800:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,000So listen to this. Verse seven, all the people saw this and we get to munder.94900:53:40,000 --> 00:53:45,000And he has gone to be with a guest of a sinner because Jesus said, I'm going to come stay with you.95000:53:45,000 --> 00:53:51,000So they left together. Right. So here's the Pharisees are so upset that he's going to a sinner's house.95100:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,000Oh, my goodness. First of all, Zacchaeus would have been considered.95200:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,000Yeah, he's the sinner. Yeah, he says because he's the Jew who turned his back on them.95300:53:59,000 --> 00:54:04,000He was a fraud. Yeah, because Rome hired him to collect taxes for Caesar.95400:54:04,000 --> 00:54:15,000And so it says this. But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, look, Lord, here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor.95500:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,000I mean, God rocked through Jesus because he was wealthy.95600:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,000He was a very he didn't have need for God because he was so wealthy.95700:54:23,000 --> 00:54:30,000Look what he says. And if I've cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount.95800:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,000What compound interest, baby.95900:54:34,000 --> 00:54:42,000Jesus said this to him. Today, salvation has come to this house because this man, too, is a son of Abraham.96000:54:42,000 --> 00:54:47,000For the son of man came to seek and save that which was lost.96100:54:47,000 --> 00:54:56,000So three things simple. Seek to see, seek to stay and seek to stand.96200:54:56,000 --> 00:55:06,000Because here's the deal. If you see you come to see and you see Jesus, if you come to stay and you stay with him and stay in his will, then you will stay.96300:55:06,000 --> 00:55:16,000You will stand. You'll have the power, the motivation, the inspiration, the empowerment of the Holy Spirit to stand where you live, where you work.96400:55:16,000 --> 00:55:22,000And where you play rock and roll, baby. I just love it. That was a great message.96500:55:22,000 --> 00:55:29,000It was so good. Such a great word of God. And Pastor Eddie, get back to our very first conversation. Super excited.96600:55:29,000 --> 00:55:36,000He came to our church and preached on honor. Tina said it was amazing.96700:55:36,000 --> 00:55:41,000She got some insight, but we're going to wait. She was sharing with me some of her insight. Cool.96800:55:41,000 --> 00:55:46,000Anything you want to share? No, I mean, nothing that I need to share online. But it was really good.96900:55:46,000 --> 00:55:53,000It was really, really good. And I can't wait to go back and listen. It's very hard not to.97000:55:53,000 --> 00:56:00,000I know you asked me, can I go? Can we watch Pastor Eddie? And you're like, no, we're following his playbook.97100:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,000No, it was his playbook. I know. So we're following it.97200:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,000Well, listen, we want to say thank you for listening today. Thank you for being with us.97300:56:07,000 --> 00:56:14,000Get fired up with us just like everybody else is. No, not like everybody else, but like believers should be.97400:56:14,000 --> 00:56:19,000We need to take a stand. We need to take a stand for truth. Take a stand for righteousness.97500:56:19,000 --> 00:56:25,000Yes. And not be bullied and pushed around by the powers that be. And so we want to encourage you.97600:56:25,000 --> 00:56:29,000Greater is he that is in us than he that's in the world. Come on, girl.97700:56:29,000 --> 00:56:35,000But we've got to use the power that Christ gives us. And never forget who the real enemy is.97800:56:35,000 --> 00:56:42,000It's not a person. It's not a human being. No, they sometimes look like human beings, but they're not our enemy.97900:56:42,000 --> 00:56:47,000The enemy is our enemy. Right. The devil himself. But we have been given victory over him.98000:56:47,000 --> 00:56:54,000We overcame by the blood of the lamb and the word of our testimony. We love you guys. Have an amazing week.98100:56:54,000 --> 00:57:00,000Thanks for being with us. Yes. And thank you to everybody who's writing in, who's giving.98200:57:00,000 --> 00:57:07,000We so appreciate everything you're doing. Keep it coming. We love you. Goodbye.98300:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,000You