"Big Boys Don't Cry... Well, This One Does"

100:00:00,000 --> 00:00:29,320This is Jimmy and Annette and we are super excited to be with you.200:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,040Oh I always need to mention Mr. Chevy because he's with us as well.300:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,040He is.400:00:34,040 --> 00:00:39,440In his total, I'm looking at, I'm sorry, I'm looking at the look on my dog's face.500:00:39,440 --> 00:00:44,120He's looking at me like this is my favorite place ever to be.600:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,880He's totally chilled out.700:00:45,880 --> 00:00:46,880He was super excited.800:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,960I set this up like two hours ago.900:00:48,960 --> 00:00:54,960And then we stopped because I said, wait, I heard a sermon today that you have to hear1000:00:54,960 --> 00:00:55,960by Willie Robertson.1100:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,360Yeah, Willie Robertson.1200:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,920From Duck Dynasty.1300:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,840And I said, let's stop and go watch this.1400:01:03,840 --> 00:01:04,840And you know what?1500:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,280I mean, I was just watching you cry just now.1600:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,280You were sobbing.1700:01:09,280 --> 00:01:14,440I was like, okay, when we start this podcast, I need, I need you to be a little up instead1800:01:14,440 --> 00:01:15,440of down.1900:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,400No, I'm totally up because it was so powerful.2000:01:17,400 --> 00:01:22,120But you were up, but it was just, you know, when you're crying, you just, it takes it2100:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,080all out of you and you were bawling your eyes out.2200:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,560I turned and looked at you and you were just bawling.2300:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,080You said, are you asleep?2400:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,480I said, no, I'm crying.2500:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,120I saw your eyes shut and I thought he's asleep.2600:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,120But now you were, your eyes were shut because you had tears in your eyes and it was moving2700:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,480to watch Jimmy.2800:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,480It was so moving.2900:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,640That's what I love about you.3000:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,240I love your sensitivity to the spirit.3100:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,520It is, it is, it's, it's very sexy.3200:01:49,520 --> 00:01:50,520I'm just saying.3300:01:50,520 --> 00:01:51,520I know.3400:01:51,520 --> 00:01:52,520Well, I have to say that.3500:01:52,520 --> 00:01:53,520Pause, edit.3600:01:53,520 --> 00:01:54,520I'm just kidding.3700:01:54,520 --> 00:02:01,800I mean, it's what woman does not love to see a sensitive, caring, loving husband who is3800:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,960so sensitive to the spirit that he cries.3900:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,880I mean, you cry a lot, not just at hallmark shows.4000:02:08,880 --> 00:02:14,680I, you know, I know you do that commercials, but you really do cry when you hear the word4100:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,880of God spoken and it really resonates with you.4200:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,920And that, that's amazing.4300:02:19,920 --> 00:02:21,640Thank you.4400:02:21,640 --> 00:02:22,640That's why I married you.4500:02:22,640 --> 00:02:23,640Wow.4600:02:23,640 --> 00:02:24,640I mean, wow.4700:02:24,640 --> 00:02:25,640Thank you for saying that.4800:02:25,640 --> 00:02:27,800You know, there was a time in my life I couldn't cry.4900:02:27,800 --> 00:02:28,800I know, I know.5000:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,240It was very broken and very hard and angry.5100:02:32,240 --> 00:02:37,320This young person, new Christian, young baby Christian.5200:02:37,320 --> 00:02:44,160And I didn't thought about this in years, but I was at a church service and it was like5300:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,160a Sunday night.5400:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,720Remember church, Sunday night church.5500:02:46,720 --> 00:02:47,720People used to do Sunday nights.5600:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,280I like Sunday night, but it really was cool.5700:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,960I liked it too, um, cause you just kind of went really casual and there was just a sweet5800:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,440spirit is more about the fellowship and connection.5900:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,440Right.6000:02:58,440 --> 00:02:59,440Missed that.6100:02:59,440 --> 00:03:05,760Um, so I was there on a Sunday night and the pastor, um, just started to had a microphone6200:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,120start passing around and say, Hey, does anybody have a testimony?6300:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,840I've been at those services.6400:03:10,840 --> 00:03:17,000They are people started sharing it as other people were sharing about their faith and6500:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,440what God was doing in their life.6600:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,320I just begin to weep and I hadn't weep.6700:03:20,320 --> 00:03:21,800I hadn't cried in two years.6800:03:21,800 --> 00:03:22,800How old were you?6900:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,120I had to be like 21 by that point.7000:03:25,120 --> 00:03:31,160Um, my parents had gone through a divorce when I was 17 and I was angry.7100:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,040Was it after your mother passed away?7200:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,040No, no, no, no, no.7300:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,040My parents were both alive.7400:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,040Okay.7500:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,040She said they went through a divorce.7600:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,240I was shattered by it, but you know, I'm a guy, so I didn't act like I was shattered7700:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,240by it.7800:03:42,240 --> 00:03:47,280So it's all cool with me, you know, but inside I was devastated and, um, didn't talk about7900:03:47,280 --> 00:03:48,280it and have anybody.8000:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,040So wait a minute back up.8100:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,040Yeah.8200:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,240Your parents got a divorce when you were in high school, high school.8300:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,400So this is your 21, right?8400:03:55,400 --> 00:03:56,720And it's hitting you.8500:03:56,720 --> 00:03:57,720Yeah.8600:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,000I mean, well, it dawned on me.8700:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,000I haven't cried.8800:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,080I've never, I haven't been tender because I was so angry.8900:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,560I had the shield just held.9000:04:05,560 --> 00:04:10,880It was a shield around my heart and in my mind, even I love God, man, I was growing9100:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,540in Christ, love God.9200:04:13,540 --> 00:04:17,040So these people start sharing their testimonies and these are all old, young.9300:04:17,040 --> 00:04:23,200I mean, just multi-generational and I'm listening and all of a sudden something happens.9400:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,760There's a, something breaks in me because I'm hearing about what God's doing in other9500:04:27,760 --> 00:04:28,760people's lives.9600:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,920Now he's moving in mine too big time, but I'm listening to other people and for whatever9700:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,560reason it struck a chord in my heart.9800:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,960And it's like a, it's like all this stuff that was built up, it broke.9900:04:40,960 --> 00:04:41,960Wow.10000:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,880It's like a dam breaking and all this water behind it.10100:04:44,880 --> 00:04:49,880It's been waiting to be released and I just began to sob.10200:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,640It was embarrassing kind of, but, but it was beautiful too.10300:04:53,640 --> 00:04:59,840I call it, it was brutal, brutal at the same time.10400:04:59,840 --> 00:05:03,200It was brutal and I just was a cleansing for you.10500:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,320She even remembering that's making my heart.10600:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,320Wow.10700:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,440So, um, I actually stood up and said, can I have the microphone?10800:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,280They brought it over to me and I gave a testimony.10900:05:12,280 --> 00:05:18,600I said, ever since my parents divorced at that point, three, three years ago, I haven't11000:05:18,600 --> 00:05:24,080cried a tear until tonight hearing all you amazing people share about your walk with11100:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,080God.11200:05:25,080 --> 00:05:30,600And even while I was talking, I could barely get the words out and I was just so thankful11300:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,400that my heart was tender again.11400:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,200And ever since then, right.11500:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,600I've been married to you for 30 years.11600:05:36,600 --> 00:05:37,600Very tender, very tender.11700:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,440And you know, I never apologize for it.11800:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,400I'm not ashamed of it.11900:05:42,400 --> 00:05:49,320I am grateful because when you've not been able to feel and when you've been numb and12000:05:49,320 --> 00:05:55,000then God opens your heart again to be tender and trusting and open, there's nothing like12100:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,000it.12200:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,560It's life changing, totally life changing, changing.12300:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,600Before we talk about change, that's going to be one of our topics today.12400:06:02,600 --> 00:06:08,280We, we want to talk about the power of a changed life.12500:06:08,280 --> 00:06:10,120We use the words transformed.12600:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,880That means the form is trans.12700:06:11,880 --> 00:06:12,880It's changed.12800:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,640Of course, trans is a big word right now, but we're talking about the good way.12900:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,920We're talking about the transformation of a human heart that gets touched by the spirit13000:06:20,920 --> 00:06:21,920of God.13100:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,680But before we get dive into that, we are going to dive into it.13200:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,560We have other things I want to cover first.13300:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,240First of all, we want to welcome you to the show.13400:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,100We are Jimmy and Annette.13500:06:30,100 --> 00:06:32,800We are pastors at Bridge Church in Fredericksburg, Texas.13600:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,120We've been here about seven and a half years at this point.13700:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,480And we want to welcome you to living up in a down world.13800:06:39,480 --> 00:06:40,480That is our heart.13900:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,640That is our passion, not only for us, but for you.14000:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,960I mean, we've got, if you've been with us on this journey, we're in, can you believe14100:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,960it episode 24?14200:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,540That's mind boggling.14300:06:52,540 --> 00:06:53,540There it is.14400:06:53,540 --> 00:06:54,540Yeah.14500:06:54,540 --> 00:06:55,60024 episodes.14600:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,920And so we've told some of our stories about just what God has done and some of the hard14700:07:00,920 --> 00:07:06,080stuff, trauma, what we've had to overcome, pain, suffering, all these things.14800:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,760And yet we always end it with a, but God Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall.14900:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,080Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.15000:07:12,080 --> 00:07:18,760All the King's horses, all the Kings men couldn't put Humpty together again, but God can.15100:07:18,760 --> 00:07:19,760That's really our heart.15200:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,360And that's why we call this living up in a down world, because we want to help you in15300:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,760spite of what is going on in this crazy world.15400:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,200It does feel like chicken little was right.15500:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,560The sky seems to be falling.15600:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,400I know, but you know what?15700:07:33,400 --> 00:07:34,400I'm not fearful.15800:07:34,400 --> 00:07:35,400No, I'm not either.15900:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,720Because I still know who I am and I know God.16000:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,360I know even if something did happen, I know where I'm going.16100:07:42,360 --> 00:07:43,640It's a better place.16200:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,040I just refuse to live in fear.16300:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,040I just refuse.16400:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,040I just can't do it.16500:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,040Girl, I'm so with you.16600:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,400And when it begins to come in, because you know, the enemy's real.16700:07:52,400 --> 00:07:53,400No doubt.16800:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,640I just, I just tear it down with the word of God.16900:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,080How does that work?17000:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,480Well, I mean, you speak the word of God, but you got to know what the word of God says.17100:08:01,480 --> 00:08:06,720When you speak the word of God to the enemy and you just, you just speak back what God's17200:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,600word says to him and he has to flee.17300:08:09,600 --> 00:08:15,840And you know, I just, I have to, that's something I've had to work on most of my Christian life.17400:08:15,840 --> 00:08:16,840I hear you.17500:08:16,840 --> 00:08:21,560I mean, because of those echoes, those tapes, it's like tapes run in your mind from the17600:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,360past until you, you're no good.17700:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,440You're a loser.17800:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,140This isn't going to work out.17900:08:26,140 --> 00:08:27,920You're not going to make it.18000:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,560And so those tapes and those are lies from the enemy.18100:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,360Those are absolute lies.18200:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,080And so you got to replace those tapes.18300:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,760You got to, you got to overwrite the tapes.18400:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,480You're back in the day with cassettes, right?18500:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,400You'd have your favorite mix tape, right?18600:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,160You're rocking to the, to the seventies, your mix tape.18700:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,520You know, you got air supply and little river band and all this stuff going, I know I'm18800:08:47,520 --> 00:08:48,520going way back.18900:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,520I'm thinking high school.19000:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,840You got your favorite mix tape and then you accidentally record over it and you're like,19100:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,880oh my gosh, I can't believe I lost that.19200:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,680That was like my favorite mix tape.19300:08:57,680 --> 00:09:03,840We got to rewrite and overwrite the tapes that the enemy keeps bringing up.19400:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,340Don't you remember what you did?19500:09:05,340 --> 00:09:07,800Don't you remember what a terrible mistake you made?19600:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,520Oh, you're so bad.19700:09:09,520 --> 00:09:10,660You're not changed.19800:09:10,660 --> 00:09:11,660You're no different.19900:09:11,660 --> 00:09:15,000And you've got to replace that with the truth of God's word.20000:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,080Word said, yes, you have to.20100:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,080Yeah.20200:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,880That's what brings change.20300:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,600So we're here to help you do that.20400:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,960That's our passion for you.20500:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,880God has done so much in our lives, but we're still on the journey.20600:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,480I mean, we're, we're kids at this thing, right?20700:09:29,480 --> 00:09:35,560We're only absolutely young, always in progress, always, always ever learning, ever grown.20800:09:35,560 --> 00:09:38,520We won't have attained it until we're with Jesus.20900:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,520It's right.21000:09:39,520 --> 00:09:44,700It just, we won't, but we, but we're here and we have an assignment here.21100:09:44,700 --> 00:09:49,040And I, that's brings me to exactly where I want to talk to our listeners about because21200:09:49,040 --> 00:09:54,720our assignment in doing a podcast, this isn't work for us by the way it's work.21300:09:54,720 --> 00:10:00,160But if it's not, if it's something fulfilling and you love it and you can't wait to do it,21400:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,160then it's not work.21500:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,160Exactly.21600:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,160Exactly.21700:10:03,160 --> 00:10:08,720And we love this because we know that man, because of just God's providence and, and21800:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,160podcasting being an option and opportunity.21900:10:12,160 --> 00:10:18,360Thank you, Adam Curry and your friend that developed this, what 19 years ago, because22000:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,920this platform has been created, I believe by God's heart.22100:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,960It's an avenue to get God's word out to the world.22200:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,600And that's our heart.22300:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,760I looked at a, on rss.com, it's our hub, you know, where everything goes through.22400:10:30,760 --> 00:10:35,160They have an analytics page and it shows that our podcast is going all over the world.22500:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,840And so for those of you that are listening, wherever you are, I'm not talking about America,22600:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,720I'm talking about the world.22700:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,200We want you to know something.22800:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,200God loves you.22900:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,000He has an amazing plan for your life.23000:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,280We want to encourage you in that and help you live up in a down world.23100:10:51,280 --> 00:10:58,600I do love the newsletter that you got out yesterday because I saw that you took a picture23200:10:58,600 --> 00:11:05,640of our little studio here with the cross in the background and you had it highlighted.23300:11:05,640 --> 00:11:10,440That was beautiful because you really set it up that this is the whole point of the23400:11:10,440 --> 00:11:11,840podcast.23500:11:11,840 --> 00:11:12,840This is our why.23600:11:12,840 --> 00:11:13,840Yeah.23700:11:13,840 --> 00:11:19,480This is not just about you and I, although I mean, God's using us and our stories, I23800:11:19,480 --> 00:11:26,560believe to help people, but all our whole point is to point people to Jesus.23900:11:26,560 --> 00:11:27,560Period.24000:11:27,560 --> 00:11:32,360If we don't, then we've, then we're not, we're not fulfilling the purpose.24100:11:32,360 --> 00:11:38,800I believe that God has for us is about bringing a message to people of hope, a message of24200:11:38,800 --> 00:11:39,800life.24300:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,600And you do it every Sunday.24400:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,800I don't have that opportunity like you do.24500:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,800So this is my opportunity to do what I believe God's called me to do.24600:11:47,800 --> 00:11:54,360I love it girl and my goal is to tee up the ball, hand you the driver swing for it.24700:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,800Just, just give it a, just rip grip it and rip it girl.24800:11:57,800 --> 00:12:03,320If you, if you remember for years, I ran a women's ministry for years and years and years,24900:12:03,320 --> 00:12:10,440and I've just not had that opportunity here, even though it's our church, it's just, um,25000:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,440the opportunity hasn't presented itself for me to do that.25100:12:13,440 --> 00:12:19,560And so it's really good for me now looking back, I didn't want to do this because I,25200:12:19,560 --> 00:12:27,280I didn't know the purpose of this when we first began and God began to just infuse purpose25300:12:27,280 --> 00:12:28,280into this way.25400:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,780I see it is you have a voice and you have something to say and God has provided this25500:12:32,780 --> 00:12:36,160platform for me to hopefully set you up.25600:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,720I'm just turning knobs and sliding stuff and stuff like this.25700:12:39,720 --> 00:12:40,720Oh wow.25800:12:40,720 --> 00:12:41,720I'm applauding for you.25900:12:41,720 --> 00:12:42,720Oh, is that what you're doing?26000:12:42,720 --> 00:12:43,720Oh, I appreciate it.26100:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,680Actually, this is more about, yeah, that's it.26200:12:47,680 --> 00:12:48,680That's it.26300:12:48,680 --> 00:12:49,680That's my heart for you.26400:12:49,680 --> 00:12:50,680But really it is.26500:12:50,680 --> 00:12:52,640I so want you to have this platform.26600:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,280And so anyway, let's dive into what we're going to be talking about today.26700:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,840Again, thank you for listening.26800:12:57,840 --> 00:12:58,840Thank you for supporting.26900:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,640We'll talk, we'll get some shout outs here at the end, but, uh, I gotta talk about one27000:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,880thing though that was really special for me this last week.27100:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,800It's going to sound weird.27200:13:07,800 --> 00:13:14,120And uh, so Adam and I, Adam Curry, who's become just one of my truly dearest friends on the27300:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,120planet.27400:13:15,120 --> 00:13:19,760He's probably one of the best friends you've ever had since, since I've known anybody else.27500:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,280Cause I've had some amazing people in my life.27600:13:22,280 --> 00:13:27,160God's been so gracious, but there's something, something amazing.27700:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,280It's happening here and I don't want to get all weird about it, but that sounds really27800:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,200rude when it's talkless away, but we had a bro date.27900:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,040I know a bro date last week.28000:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,480We gave Tina and I a chance to have retail therapy.28100:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,880Oh my gosh, this is going to get expensive.28200:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,120I know that, but I gotta tell you, we went out and we just made, we went to this great28300:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,320restaurant here in town.28400:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,040We live in Fredericksburg, Texas, which is like amazing place to live.28500:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,640We love living here.28600:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,560And so we went out to this great steak house.28700:13:53,560 --> 00:13:54,920It's relatively new.28800:13:54,920 --> 00:14:01,760I think the second time I've been there and we just had an evening of conversation and28900:14:01,760 --> 00:14:09,920great food and just this exchange of life between healthy men, who are confident in29000:14:09,920 --> 00:14:15,880who they are, who are growing in their faith, growing in their friendship and this exchange29100:14:15,880 --> 00:14:16,880across the table.29200:14:16,880 --> 00:14:21,480And I gotta say, I noticed, I don't know if Adam noticed this or not, there were people29300:14:21,480 --> 00:14:22,760all around us listening.29400:14:22,760 --> 00:14:23,760They were totally eavesdropping.29500:14:23,760 --> 00:14:24,760Oh, I love that.29600:14:24,760 --> 00:14:25,760We were talking about God.29700:14:25,760 --> 00:14:26,760We were talking about world events.29800:14:26,760 --> 00:14:27,760We were talking about technology.29900:14:27,760 --> 00:14:28,760We were talking about podcasting.30000:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,400We were talking about all these amazing things.30100:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,600And I noticed, and he may or may not have, but I noticed people were listening.30200:14:36,600 --> 00:14:37,600Yeah.30300:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,640Well, there's also a light that shines through both of you because you have Jesus in you.30400:14:41,640 --> 00:14:46,040So when you're, wherever you are, people are going to be drawn to that light.30500:14:46,040 --> 00:14:51,720So I believe exactly what you said, that people were, they wanted to listen to you because30600:14:51,720 --> 00:14:58,640you have something to say and maybe they weren't sitting at your table, but I believe God was30700:14:58,640 --> 00:15:03,360in that conversation, in that restaurant where they could hear what you were saying.30800:15:03,360 --> 00:15:04,360I believe that.30900:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,360No doubt.31000:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,200Just by two guys going to a restaurant is a witness to the world.31100:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,200We're not weird.31200:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,200We're not gay.31300:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,200I mean, we're just dudes.31400:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,200We're bros, brothers.31500:15:12,200 --> 00:15:17,600And we're doing life together and we're iron sharpening iron and we're growing.31600:15:17,600 --> 00:15:18,760And I think it's the coolest thing.31700:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,320And so we're like, dude, this has got to be a regular thing.31800:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,600Although we've got to put a cap on the girl's spoon, but it's going to be a regular thing.31900:15:25,600 --> 00:15:26,600It's okay.32000:15:26,600 --> 00:15:27,600It wasn't that bad.32100:15:27,600 --> 00:15:28,600I know.32200:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,520And while me and Adam are doing a bro date, what were you and Tina?32300:15:31,520 --> 00:15:36,280Well, we were just girl shopping, you know, lock and Tara over in San Antonio.32400:15:36,280 --> 00:15:37,280Yes.32500:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,280And it was good.32600:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,280I mean, I always enjoy spending time with her because like I said, iron sharpens iron32700:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,680and I'm doing a Bible study with her every week.32800:15:44,680 --> 00:15:45,680That's cool.32900:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,160Call the God I never knew, which is Holy spirit.33000:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,160Pastor Robert Morris.33100:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,160Right.33200:15:50,160 --> 00:15:56,200So we have, we just have, you know, we've, we've only known each other less than a year.33300:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,400So we're both in our, you know, sixties, which I hate saying.33400:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,400So we have a lot of catching out to do.33500:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,400I know.33600:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,240I need to embrace this.33700:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,240I know.33800:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,320So we have a lot of catching up to do.33900:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,320And so it's amazing.34000:16:11,320 --> 00:16:19,160Our conversations have been so amazing because we're seeing, they're seeing how God was in34100:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,100their relationship from the beginning.34200:16:21,100 --> 00:16:22,280They met eight years ago.34300:16:22,280 --> 00:16:23,440They've been married four.34400:16:23,440 --> 00:16:31,280But how God instigated all these things to happen to get them to where they are today.34500:16:31,280 --> 00:16:32,280You have a great story.34600:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,280What a great story.34700:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,760And so your story, which was great because this weekend when we had Pastor Brian, a former34800:16:37,760 --> 00:16:45,000youth pastor and his wife from Nashville here, we had huge conversations this weekend with34900:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,000them.35000:16:46,000 --> 00:16:52,840And I loved hearing Adam's story and Tina's story about how they came to know Christ.35100:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,800It's all about the shoes.35200:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,600It started with the shoes, Tina's shoes.35300:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,360She rocks some amazing shoes.35400:16:59,360 --> 00:17:00,440Oh my God.35500:17:00,440 --> 00:17:01,440There's your trick.35600:17:01,440 --> 00:17:06,920But you know, but the story, not their story of how they met, but the story of how they,35700:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,800how they came to terms with they need Jesus.35800:17:09,800 --> 00:17:16,600And to hear that story again, which is why I love when we introduce them to other people,35900:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,240because they get to share that over and over and over.36000:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,200I will never get tired of hearing their journey of faith.36100:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,200I will never either.36200:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,200It's beautiful.36300:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,800There's something compelling and powerful about a testimony of people who have come36400:17:27,800 --> 00:17:33,840from a place of just not, not being against God at all, just not knowing Him and getting36500:17:33,840 --> 00:17:34,840to know Him.36600:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,440But what's beautiful about their journey is they decided to do it together.36700:17:38,440 --> 00:17:39,440Yes.36800:17:39,440 --> 00:17:40,440That's powerful.36900:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,360Her and I were talking about that on our walk today about how powerful.37000:17:44,360 --> 00:17:47,280Naomi had said the same thing to her.37100:17:47,280 --> 00:17:54,640And when she was visiting with her yesterday at church, she said, most couples don't come37200:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,840to that realization together.37300:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,560And I know that from experience from church.37400:18:00,560 --> 00:18:06,760Typically it's the female and the male is follows along or does eight feet behind.37500:18:06,760 --> 00:18:07,760Yeah.37600:18:07,760 --> 00:18:08,760Right.37700:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,360Their story is so powerful because they were together on this.37800:18:12,360 --> 00:18:16,740And you know, to me and Tina and I were talking about this too.37900:18:16,740 --> 00:18:22,320The older you get, the more set in your ways and where you don't think you need a savior.38000:18:22,320 --> 00:18:27,560When you're young, you know, you hear music and you get kind of low.38100:18:27,560 --> 00:18:34,800It's a, it's a, it can be a draw to you and you get, you hear a sermon and you cry.38200:18:34,800 --> 00:18:39,680But when you're older, it's, it's harder for older people to come to know Christ.38300:18:39,680 --> 00:18:40,680They're sad.38400:18:40,680 --> 00:18:41,680They're sad.38500:18:41,680 --> 00:18:42,680They're sad in their ways.38600:18:42,680 --> 00:18:43,680They've lost their dreams.38700:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,920They're disappointed and disappointment, disillusionment to a degree where they blame,38800:18:47,920 --> 00:18:48,920they could, right.38900:18:48,920 --> 00:18:49,920Right.39000:18:49,920 --> 00:18:50,920A little harder.39100:18:50,920 --> 00:18:51,920They don't have that.39200:18:51,920 --> 00:18:52,920Correct.39300:18:52,920 --> 00:18:53,920It's beautiful.39400:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,920And I'm never going to get tired of it.39500:18:55,920 --> 00:18:56,920Exactly.39600:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,660There, if you think about it, Jimmy, you know, what we talked about that we're going to talk39700:19:00,660 --> 00:19:03,160about a little bit is a, as a changed life.39800:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,160Yeah.39900:19:04,160 --> 00:19:10,400They're the epitome of a changed life, not a life that changed, right.40000:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,160But a changed life.40100:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,360Cause there are great people before Christ entered in.40200:19:16,360 --> 00:19:23,200And yet when the Holy spirit came and they accepted Christ, there was just their trajectory40300:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,400accelerated exponentially.40400:19:26,400 --> 00:19:31,000And so to watch that and I feel like we've got a 50 yard seat at the game.40500:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,000Yes.40600:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,000We're 50 yard line.40700:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,000I don't know what that means.40800:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,000Cause I don't watch football.40900:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,000That's when you're the best seat in the house.41000:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,000I know I'm kidding.41100:19:37,000 --> 00:19:42,920But getting to watch that and, and my heart and I know yours is, is to this fire that's41200:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,160burning in them is to keep pouring.41300:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,160We're the cheerleaders on the sideline.41400:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,160Totally.41500:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,160If you want to use football.41600:19:49,160 --> 00:19:50,160Oh wait, no, that's, that's gay.41700:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,160Okay.41800:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,160Well, well I'm the cheerleader on the sideline.41900:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,160I think of Will Farrell and Sarah.42000:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,160Oh my gosh.42100:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,160Of course you would.42200:19:57,160 --> 00:19:58,160Of course.42300:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,160I'm not a cheerleader.42400:19:59,160 --> 00:20:00,160I'm coach.42500:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,160Coach.42600:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,360You're the coach on the sideline and I'm the cheerleader because I'm, I'm just watching42700:20:05,360 --> 00:20:07,040their story play out.42800:20:07,040 --> 00:20:11,120We get the privilege of watching the story play out every day.42900:20:11,120 --> 00:20:13,560And then to, okay, cheer them on.43000:20:13,560 --> 00:20:14,560Right.43100:20:14,560 --> 00:20:15,560Yes.43200:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,200But also to coach and to say, man, you're doing so good and so proud of you.43300:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,200Keep doing it.43400:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,200Keep doing it.43500:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,200Absolutely.43600:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,200Keep running through the tape.43700:20:23,200 --> 00:20:24,200Keep those legs.43800:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,200Tell us what books you're interested in reading because some people might send them a book43900:20:27,200 --> 00:20:34,720that might not be the, they mean well, beautiful people supporting them more new age crew,44000:20:34,720 --> 00:20:35,720you know, or something.44100:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,960So we were, that's how we coach them.44200:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,440So the heart of what we're talking about is not just about Adam and Tina, but it's the44300:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,140power of a change in life.44400:20:44,140 --> 00:20:50,480So speaking of cool people and change lives, Renee, Dan and Renee Seacrest, we went out44500:20:50,480 --> 00:20:51,480with them.44600:20:51,480 --> 00:20:52,480Oh my gosh.44700:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,200Just the coolest people.44800:20:54,200 --> 00:20:58,960Dan is, uh, uh, he worked for a Boston market for years.44900:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,400He was one of their, one of their top guys in Boston markets.45000:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,880I used to love that place by the way that we loved it when we were in California.45100:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,400We ate there all the time.45200:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,400You don't hear about it.45300:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,600Yeah, not so much, but he's moved on and he's doing a lot of other things.45400:21:12,600 --> 00:21:19,320Semi retired doing consulting, just the coolest couple who loved Jesus passionately, who,45500:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,960who were, who love us, which was so evident.45600:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,680I love our relationship with him.45700:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,960He came and talked to me at church and just thanked me and said, we had such a wonderful45800:21:27,960 --> 00:21:28,960time with you guys.45900:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,040We went out to dinner in Bernie, Texas, by the way, it's not Bernie as in B E R it's46000:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,240a German name.46100:21:34,240 --> 00:21:40,520B O E R N E I Bernie, just any, any, you're right.46200:21:40,520 --> 00:21:41,520German.46300:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,120And, uh, we had this amazing steakhouse with them.46400:21:44,120 --> 00:21:51,720But again, it was another evening of iron sharpening iron, building one another up,46500:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,920sharing our stories, sharing our lives of transformation.46600:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,880By the way, he's a killer musician as well.46700:21:56,880 --> 00:22:02,960He's on our worship team, great bass player, great keyboardist, but also just a great man46800:22:02,960 --> 00:22:03,960of God.46900:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,920I'm watching God grow him exponentially.47000:22:05,920 --> 00:22:06,920Yes.47100:22:06,920 --> 00:22:07,920That's it.47200:22:07,920 --> 00:22:08,920That's that was wonderful time.47300:22:08,920 --> 00:22:09,920Wonderful, wonderful time.47400:22:09,920 --> 00:22:15,880Brought them back to the house, just rocked some amazing desserts from high street cafe47500:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,360out of comfort, Texas.47600:22:17,360 --> 00:22:18,360Okay.47700:22:18,360 --> 00:22:19,360I'm kind of deserted out.47800:22:19,360 --> 00:22:20,840That sounds kind of crazy.47900:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,000But wow, we've had all these guests we've had all week.48000:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,720It's been one dessert after another.48100:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,960So as we enter into our sabbatical, we probably need to enter into a fast, you know what?48200:22:31,960 --> 00:22:32,960Bad word.48300:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,880I know, but I am considering that I am so much more spiritual than I know.48400:22:37,880 --> 00:22:38,880I know.48500:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,560But I think it might be good for us.48600:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,840But anyway, I just want to give a shout out to Dan and Renee because they are just precious48700:22:44,840 --> 00:22:45,840people.48800:22:45,840 --> 00:22:46,840They listened to our podcast.48900:22:46,840 --> 00:22:47,840Yeah.49000:22:47,840 --> 00:22:48,840She's listened to every one of them.49100:22:48,840 --> 00:22:49,840Oh my gosh.49200:22:49,840 --> 00:22:50,840Said I just started listening.49300:22:50,840 --> 00:22:51,840I love these guys.49400:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,640And, uh, so yeah, they're quality quality.49500:22:54,640 --> 00:22:55,640You're wonderful.49600:22:55,640 --> 00:22:56,640Great people.49700:22:56,640 --> 00:22:57,640Yeah.49800:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,440So thanks for an amazing, amazing evening.49900:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,720And let's talk a little bit about Brian and Naomi Mandel.50000:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,680I mean, you talk about some cool people.50100:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,680Yes.50200:23:06,680 --> 00:23:11,200He was our, he was our youth pastor for years in Abilene.50300:23:11,200 --> 00:23:17,360Then when we moved to Nashville, we brought him there and they've just, um, so he's been,50400:23:17,360 --> 00:23:23,640so he was a youth pastor for eight years and then this weird fortuitous situation came50500:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,840along with what's called the escape games.50600:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,560I've probably heard of there's 35 locations.50700:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,880They're in very prime, prime property locations all over America.50800:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,040And he has been the one of the developers of that company.50900:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,200He's a senior.51000:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,200Very well.51100:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,960And, uh, and God's doing some cool stuff.51200:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,960These guys, they're on fire for Jesus.51300:23:45,960 --> 00:23:46,960They are.51400:23:46,960 --> 00:23:47,960Goodness.51500:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,200Boy, this weekend, Naomi is a rock star.51600:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,520She just, she, she, it was as if she was in our living room and she had a pulpit in front51700:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,400of her and she was just preaching to Tina and Adam and they were just lapping it up.51800:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,200You know what I love about life or friends?51900:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,200I call them lifers.52000:24:01,200 --> 00:24:06,320There's a few people that fit in that category lifers, lifers are the kind of people that52100:24:06,320 --> 00:24:11,200you might not see them for a few years or talk to them, but every once in a while, but52200:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,840when you're together, it's like literally right where you left off.52300:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,280Those are lifers and Brian and Naomi are lifers.52400:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,280Yes.52500:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,680It was really cool having them.52600:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,240We had them Friday noon through last night.52700:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,240Yeah, exactly.52800:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,760I mean, and yet I never, man, it was so good.52900:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,400We talked the whole time about Jesus, what God's up to in the kingdom, right?53000:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,400Yes.53100:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,400It was absolutely.53200:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,800We had Adam and Tina over, so they got to meet them and get some hang time with them.53300:24:39,800 --> 00:24:46,680We had our kids over, our daughter, Faith and her new husband, Brandon, so proud of them.53400:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,280And, and we just had these amazing God conversations.53500:24:50,280 --> 00:24:57,120I feel so full because all we've done is had God conversation after God conversation after53600:24:57,120 --> 00:24:58,800God conversation.53700:24:58,800 --> 00:25:03,600And it just, it is, I feel like this is going to be really a bad thing, except I feel like53800:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,160a tick who is full.53900:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,640I know when I'm going to pop.54000:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,640I know.54100:25:07,640 --> 00:25:08,640Didn't see that coming.54200:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,640I know.54300:25:09,640 --> 00:25:10,640I've heard that somewhere.54400:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,680You've probably said it in a sermon in the past.54500:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,680Oh, I'm sure I have.54600:25:13,680 --> 00:25:19,360But I just feel so full of the word and just the love of God.54700:25:19,360 --> 00:25:20,600Just being around people.54800:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,960I never get tired.54900:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,640This is how you, this speaking of change lives, this is how you know a life is transformed55000:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,560is you never get tired of talking about the things of God.55100:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,840And I never tire of it.55200:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,280Let's have a conversation.55300:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,160Let's talk about what God's up to.55400:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,160Amen.55500:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,160Yes.55600:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,160Yes.55700:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,160Hey man, so I got preaching.55800:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,160You did.55900:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,160Well, totally not in church.56000:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,160We're in your, totally.56100:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,720We're in your little office studio.56200:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,020So tell us, okay.56300:25:47,020 --> 00:25:50,880So you listen to, we went to this on Mondays.56400:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,960We practice Sabbath.56500:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,300We don't take a Sabbath.56600:25:54,300 --> 00:25:56,220We receive a Sabbath from the Lord.56700:25:56,220 --> 00:25:57,680It's a gift.56800:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,680And so today, and we always, one of our things we like to do after a really long weekend,56900:26:02,680 --> 00:26:08,600preaching, teaching, I played on the worship team, two services, two services, and then57000:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,260we hosted all weekend.57100:26:10,260 --> 00:26:11,380So we were a little tired.57200:26:11,380 --> 00:26:12,840We woke up this morning, right?57300:26:12,840 --> 00:26:13,840Let's be honest.57400:26:13,840 --> 00:26:18,000So you decided to go for a four mile walk through the hills.57500:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,240You and Tina are machines and you are not human.57600:26:21,240 --> 00:26:26,880So anyway, I stayed in my office and played my guitar for a solid hour worship God on57700:26:26,880 --> 00:26:27,880my guitar.57800:26:27,880 --> 00:26:28,880I liked your guitar.57900:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,280I was rocking the strap this morning.58000:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,800So then we left and went straight to the gym.58100:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,440Straight to the gym for your second workout.58200:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,440You're a machine.58300:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,820And I love to lift weights.58400:26:39,820 --> 00:26:42,680And so that's another one of my favorite things to do.58500:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,600And so we've been doing this, we met in a gym and doing this for 30.58600:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,360I listened to about 30 minutes of no agenda.58700:26:50,360 --> 00:26:53,760Adam Curry's amazing podcast and got it.58800:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,000May have super stoked.58900:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,000So I can't wait to jump in.59000:26:56,000 --> 00:27:01,120I got to listen to all over it, but I'm keyed up about it.59100:27:01,120 --> 00:27:05,160So, and then as we're, as we're starting to hit home, I said, what did you listen to?59200:27:05,160 --> 00:27:11,000And you said, I listened to Willie Robertson and he was, I've never heard him.59300:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,240I knew he was a Christian.59400:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,440I know the whole little snippet.59500:27:14,440 --> 00:27:20,200I know about Sadie, his daughter and all that, but I've never heard him personally preach59600:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,160and it was phenomenal.59700:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,000And I said, let's, before we do a podcast, we got to go just watch it.59800:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,400Cause I listen to it online.59900:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,320We sat down, I put my headphones on.60000:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,680You said, wait a minute, no, we got to go.60100:27:31,680 --> 00:27:32,960We need to go listen to this.60200:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,480And I was like, ah, I'm ready to record.60300:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,640And then we go in there and I cried through the whole thing.60400:27:38,640 --> 00:27:44,160And I said, I knew you need to listen to this because it was, he, he, he, it was about a60500:27:44,160 --> 00:27:50,800life change versus a, um, wait, hold on.60600:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,560Say help me say it.60700:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,840A, a life change versus a change of life.60800:27:56,840 --> 00:27:57,840Okay.60900:27:57,840 --> 00:27:58,840Okay.61000:27:58,840 --> 00:28:06,080And so do we have just a life change and we don't have the transformation or are we going61100:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,440to live a changed life?61200:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,440That continues.61300:28:10,440 --> 00:28:16,400And so that just, it just, again, another thing that just hit me hard.61400:28:16,400 --> 00:28:23,040It was like, I want to be known as the one who lives a life that's changed.61500:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,680I gotta say something.61600:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,200When you get spiritual, I know what it does to you.61700:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,880I mean, we're doing a podcast, so be careful what you say.61800:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,520But I'm just, I just look at you and I, this is the girl I'm married.61900:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,240This is the girl that I saw, you know, when we first got together and I was like, she's62000:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,600so hungry for God.62100:28:41,600 --> 00:28:48,360So when I hear you talk about the things of God and I just, I honestly, I, I wish and62200:28:48,360 --> 00:28:54,720pray that people could have the kind of relationship we have where when we both start talking about62300:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,200the Lord, there's something that elevates.62400:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,200Yes.62500:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,440So I had to pause, had to press pause on you.62600:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,880Sorry to distract, but I'm just like, wow.62700:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,520So why did it make you cry?62800:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,760Cause you were crying so much and, and I, and we started to talk about it and I said,62900:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,680no, let's go straight in there and record.63000:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,120I don't want to talk.63100:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,120You becoming a podcaster.63200:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,120Well, I am.63300:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,680I've learned from the best Tina and Adam, this is what they say.63400:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,120So tell me what was it that made you cry?63500:29:27,120 --> 00:29:32,840I think part of it is that, uh, when really was talking and he's talking at gateway church,63600:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,840right?63700:29:33,840 --> 00:29:40,880The heart of very affluent Dallas Fort worth, no knock on that just is what it is.63800:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,880Right?63900:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,760I mean, he's in the heart of that and here he is in a headband.64000:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,640His hair is all jacked up.64100:29:45,640 --> 00:29:51,600He's wearing the old like Levi's five Oh one jeans and tennis shoes that are no name, no64200:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,100brand.64300:29:53,100 --> 00:29:54,100He's just himself.64400:29:54,100 --> 00:30:01,400And yet he is talking about being consumed with the love of God for people.64500:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,400Yes.64600:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,840And he's telling story after story of just these people who don't know who he is.64700:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,080Jordan, Peterson met him and said, Oh, what are you doing at the conference?64800:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,440He said, I'm actually one of the keynote speakers yet.64900:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,440Really?65000:30:13,440 --> 00:30:18,200You know, like looking him up and down, looking him up and down, like you're a speaker, you65100:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,200know?65200:30:19,200 --> 00:30:27,200So I love the fact that this, this family, the Robertson family have received the mantle65300:30:27,200 --> 00:30:33,720that God gave to them in the call to evangelize, to share their faith, to be bold in their65400:30:33,720 --> 00:30:34,720faith.65500:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,720Absolutely.65600:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,720We all know it's duck dynasty, right?65700:30:36,720 --> 00:30:37,720A lot of drama.65800:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,720It's funny.65900:30:38,720 --> 00:30:44,840It's a great hilarious show and they're rough around the edges and yet there's this life66000:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,600that emanates out of them.66100:30:46,600 --> 00:30:47,600Exactly.66200:30:47,600 --> 00:30:48,600It's light.66300:30:48,600 --> 00:30:54,020And so as I was listening to him tell stories about sharing his faith with people and baptizing66400:30:54,020 --> 00:31:00,880a guy in a cow pond and a stock tank, stock tanks, I didn't know what a cow pond was until66500:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,520he described it as a tank.66600:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,260That's a manmade little tiny lake or pond and it's for the cattle.66700:31:07,260 --> 00:31:08,260It's literally ranch.66800:31:08,260 --> 00:31:10,320That's where they go.66900:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,320They poop.67000:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,320They drink water.67100:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,920I mean, it's, it's the deer come, the cows come, whatever else comes.67200:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,280So, so I get that because I grew up in West Texas.67300:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,080So he baptized someone.67400:31:22,080 --> 00:31:27,760And that guy, it was really shallow and you have to really, really want to do that.67500:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,760I got a bat.67600:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,760I got to get you all wet.67700:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,680So 18 degrees outside, 18 degrees outside there on a deer hunt.67800:31:32,680 --> 00:31:37,960This guy gets born again, gives his heart to Christ and says, man, I want to be baptized67900:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,960right now.68000:31:38,960 --> 00:31:39,960And Willie's like, for real?68100:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,800Like right now he's a, yeah, he's it's 18 degrees.68200:31:42,800 --> 00:31:43,800This could kill you.68300:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,840Cause yeah, I know the old man has today.68400:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,560No, it can literally kill you.68500:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,960It's hilarious.68600:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,920But I can totally picture that because growing up where I grew up, we had stock takes that68700:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,160we had one on our property.68800:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,200We, we had cows and all that stuff.68900:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,760And so I know what a stock tank is.69000:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,840I know what's inside of it.69100:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,840It's gross.69200:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,320I've never even been in the presence of a cow.69300:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,320Yeah.69400:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,320You don't swim in a stock tank.69500:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,320I grew up in the city.69600:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,320I don't, I'm not a, yeah.69700:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,640So this guy wants to be baptized.69800:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,480He's like, man, I'm ready to be baptized.69900:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,400I want to, I want to follow Jesus.70000:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,440The beauty of that struck me because I know what's in the stock, gross.70100:32:19,440 --> 00:32:20,440That's why you're crying.70200:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,440No, part of it.70300:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,880I mean, just part of the fact that that guy didn't care.70400:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,760He just wanted Jesus and he wanted to follow the Jesus and believers baptism.70500:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,360He said, I don't care if it's in a church.70600:32:31,360 --> 00:32:37,640I don't care if it's in a warm hot tub and he saw it and he said, let's just do it right70700:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,640now.70800:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,640Right here.70900:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,640I mean, love that.71000:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,640That is powerful.71100:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,640It's the heart.71200:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,640It's the real deal.71300:32:43,640 --> 00:32:49,560And you're like, well, you know, it's dude in a church where it's really the warm water71400:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,520and Adam Curry, we have neon lights and fog machines.71500:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,760I'm just kidding.71600:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,440So you know, but it's all the convenience is comfort and somebody's waiting with the71700:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,440towel.71800:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,160No, this is 18 degrees on a deer hunt.71900:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,560That was, he says, I want to be baptized right now.72000:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,480The purity of that cameraman who was with him, he said, of course the cameraman follows72100:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,480Willie Roberts all the time.72200:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,480Right.72300:33:13,480 --> 00:33:19,080And he said, well, I'm not going to do it there, but can we go back to the person's72400:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,880house and let's do it in the bath.72500:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,880Did it in a bathtub with all the guys.72600:33:22,880 --> 00:33:23,880I just think so.72700:33:23,880 --> 00:33:30,600All these dudes watching him in a bathtub in a bath in a bathtub, get baptized.72800:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,880How beautiful is that?72900:33:31,880 --> 00:33:32,880Absolutely.73000:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,080You know, all that really struck me, but it also conjured up some, some memories that73100:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,080I have.73200:33:38,080 --> 00:33:45,320So I was youth pastor for many years and because I wasn't raised in church, I didn't become73300:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,880a Christian until I was 18, almost right.73400:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,76019 really, really, really more into 19.73500:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,040And so not going to youth camp, not being raised in a church.73600:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,520I mean, I was really raw and rough around the edges.73700:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,680I mean, all I ever wanted to do is play, play guitar in a band and be on a stage.73800:34:02,680 --> 00:34:03,680I mean, rock and roll.73900:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,240I mean, I grew up in classic rock era and now we call it classic rock.74000:34:08,240 --> 00:34:09,760Wasn't in.74100:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,760So that's all I wanted.74200:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,520And I just didn't have a lot of ambition about life.74300:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,840And then God grips my heart.74400:34:15,840 --> 00:34:21,800And suddenly, not suddenly, but over a period of time, I find myself being at a Bible school,74500:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,160learning about ministry.74600:34:23,160 --> 00:34:30,460And then now I get invited to be a youth minister at a church and I'm in this beautiful, wonderful74700:34:30,460 --> 00:34:36,460church and Comanche, Texas, of all places, central Texas, little bitty town, central74800:34:36,460 --> 00:34:37,460Texas.74900:34:37,460 --> 00:34:40,840And I loved getting to be a part of that church.75000:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,400And I was there for four years and I was the youth minister.75100:34:44,400 --> 00:34:49,360And then I became the associate pastor later with Pastor Don Longoria, wonderful man of75200:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,780God.75300:34:50,780 --> 00:34:54,840Still consider him a pastor and a mentor in my life from a distance.75400:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,520So here I was as a youth pastor, but I was still rough, long hair, plain and...75500:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,520You're still rough right now.75600:35:00,520 --> 00:35:01,520I know.75700:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,520I'm playing in a Christian rock band.75800:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,680We had this great band.75900:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,320We did all these youth events.76000:35:06,320 --> 00:35:12,200And so naturally, guess what kind of young people, kids in high school were attracted76100:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,840to me because I'm a guitar, I'm a lead guitar player.76200:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,080I've still got long hair.76300:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,720I still wear rock and roll t-shirts.76400:35:17,720 --> 00:35:20,160And here I am in a Baptist church.76500:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,520Not a fit, but I was a misfit if there ever was one.76600:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,580But here I was.76700:35:25,580 --> 00:35:28,160And so we did these big youth events.76800:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,160We'd fight the whole community out.76900:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,440We'd see a lot of kids come out for what we call fifth quarter rallies.77000:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,920Our band would rock and jam out in the parking lot with big lights.77100:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,520And it was a magical time, honestly, in youth ministry.77200:35:42,520 --> 00:35:50,120And what happened was a bunch of skaters and kids that were jamming on Metallico, the black77300:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,360album, they were all into it.77400:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,040They were coming to our meetings because they loved the music and then they knew I was rough77500:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,320around the edges.77600:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,160We started drawing all these young people that were really rough around the edges.77700:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,200Of course, our church was like, oh my gosh, these are the wrong kind of kids.77800:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,880I'm like, no, this is who Jesus is going after.77900:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,280I still don't understand that.78000:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,360Why would a church want to turn away people that don't look like them?78100:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,960In their defense, they just didn't.78200:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,360Honestly, they didn't know any better.78300:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,360I know, I just don't get that.78400:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,400I have great compassion for that and great grace for that.78500:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,840So it was shocking.78600:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,320But God was drawing these rough kids, especially the skater crowd.78700:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,520Man, I love the skater guys.78800:36:28,520 --> 00:36:29,520They were raw.78900:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,520They were honest.79000:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,520They were intellectual.79100:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,520They were sharp.79200:36:32,520 --> 00:36:37,560And I had these great conversations just sitting on the tailgate of a pickup out in the parking79300:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,880lot at night with these guys.79400:36:39,880 --> 00:36:46,960And I remember someone let me know, they came by the church and they said, look, this group79500:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,600of guys, and these are guys that had given their hearts to Christ.79600:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,320Man, I was helping them, was discipling them.79700:36:53,320 --> 00:36:59,480He said, they're over in another town, it's like 20, 30 minutes away, and they're drunk.79800:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,400They're just smashed to other minds.79900:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,400And it just got all over me.80000:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,760I jumped in my 72 Volkswagen Bug.80100:37:06,760 --> 00:37:07,760I know.80200:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,040Had a great cassette player though.80300:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,040Oh my gosh.80400:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,400And I drove over to this other town and I found them.80500:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,200I hunted them.80600:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,800I prayed the whole way.80700:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,840Lord God, these guys just gave their lives to Jesus.80800:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,320And here they are drinking and partying.80900:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,860And I was that kid too.81000:37:26,860 --> 00:37:28,920So I knew exactly what was going on.81100:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,600I said, God, somehow help me find them.81200:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,960And I felt like the Lord led me to drive to the downtown.81300:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,560There's a drag, you know, every town in Texas has a drag.81400:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,360I went down on the drag.81500:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,560Sure enough, I found them.81600:37:42,560 --> 00:37:43,720I pull up behind them.81700:37:43,720 --> 00:37:50,120I'm flashing my lights in my Volkswagen and we pull over in a parking lot and I just,81800:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,360they're all, they're smashed.81900:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,360And I get it.82000:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,600I was that kid.82100:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,880So we get out and I just said, man, guys, I'm not here to berate you.82200:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,320I'm not here to put you down.82300:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,240I'm not here to call you out.82400:38:03,240 --> 00:38:04,960I'm here to call you up.82500:38:04,960 --> 00:38:11,960And I'm here to tell you, I love you so much that I drove from Comanche to get over here82600:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,640to just tell you, I love you.82700:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,640But more importantly, God loves you.82800:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,680And I just, I broke in front of these guys.82900:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,400I just started to cry and it wasn't a weird cry.83000:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,240It was just a, it was pure and it was passionate.83100:38:25,240 --> 00:38:26,760It was from the heart.83200:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,200And I said, watch these guys break right in front of me.83300:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,680All three of them, there's three of them.83400:38:32,680 --> 00:38:37,640And man, they were just like repentant and sorry and apologize.83500:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,800We all drove back to Comanche in a little, little train.83600:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,120I mean, they were in a car and I was in the car and I said, let's just go home.83700:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,760And I went home that night and you know what?83800:38:45,760 --> 00:38:50,720Those guys became faithful in our youth group and some of them did, some of them didn't,83900:38:50,720 --> 00:38:52,180some of them went on.84000:38:52,180 --> 00:39:00,400And yet I just will never forget the overwhelming feeling that no matter what I've got to drive,84100:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,120I'll go wherever I need to go to reach these young people.84200:39:04,120 --> 00:39:09,120I'll never forget it because it imprinted my heart and gave me such a love for these84300:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,120young people.84400:39:10,120 --> 00:39:15,920It imprinted a seed and who knows what who's watered that seed over time.84500:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,160I will say this crazy enough on social media, every once in a while I hear from one of them.84600:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,160Really?84700:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,160It's really cool.84800:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,160That's awesome.84900:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,200God's worked and God's done a work in that, in that one young man's life.85000:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,200And they'll never forget you.85100:39:26,200 --> 00:39:37,280I'll never forget the, the Stoney school teachers that spent multiple hours with me every week85200:39:37,280 --> 00:39:43,120discipling me, teaching me from the age of 10 till I was about 13 in a church.85300:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,920I'll never forget them.85400:39:44,920 --> 00:39:52,200So you have to ask the question, what motivates a person to give away an evening, a day, an85500:39:52,200 --> 00:39:58,760afternoon to sit with another person, to simply say, I'm not here for me.85600:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,160I'm here for you.85700:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,240And I'm here because God put this on my heart to be with you.85800:40:04,240 --> 00:40:07,880It's understanding a calling that we all have.85900:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,040That's a change to life.86000:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,400That's a change to life.86100:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,400It sure is.86200:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,400I know I've noticed a crop in doing this 38 years.86300:40:14,400 --> 00:40:23,440I'm not exactly a newbie and I've seen so many people get excited about God, get excited86400:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,240about Jesus, step over the line, get baptized.86500:40:26,240 --> 00:40:27,280Oh my gosh.86600:40:27,280 --> 00:40:33,000Their front row, then six months later, eighth row, then their 20th row, and then they're86700:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,000out.86800:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,000They're out the door.86900:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,000It's like, what is it?87000:40:36,000 --> 00:40:45,520Life happens, but they don't have the foundation to withstand when the tornado comes or the87100:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,520wind blows.87200:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,600I think there's a couple of things going on.87300:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,040It's not even just that.87400:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,200Cause a lot of people blame the church.87500:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,960Well, the church didn't disciple them.87600:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,640The church didn't take care of them.87700:40:55,640 --> 00:40:56,640Whoa, whoa, whoa.87800:40:56,640 --> 00:40:57,960Wait a minute.87900:40:57,960 --> 00:41:06,440When I was a young new Christian, I was so self motivated because I knew God saved me.88000:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,000You were really saved.88100:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,000It makes you wonder if some were not saved.88200:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,280That's what I wonder about.88300:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,920I'm just throwing that out there for thought.88400:41:15,920 --> 00:41:23,380I think there are a lot of people who are, what's the right word?88500:41:23,380 --> 00:41:28,120They're in a dangerous place because they think they are and they may not be.88600:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,920Jesus said that you must be born again.88700:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,640You must be born from above.88800:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,600And then he said this, you must be born of the spirit.88900:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,520This is all John chapter three.89000:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,640You must be born of the spirit.89100:41:40,640 --> 00:41:45,600I think there are a lot of people who they get an adrenaline pump.89200:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,560They get a dopamine dump and they're like, I feel so good.89300:41:49,560 --> 00:41:54,480And then when the good wears off, the adrenaline wears off, the dopamine wears off, the pump89400:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,480wears off.89500:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,320Then it's like, wait a minute, this is going to cost me something.89600:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,600Wait, I got to give up something.89700:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,720I got to lay my life down for this.89800:42:02,720 --> 00:42:03,720Whoa, whoa, whoa.89900:42:03,720 --> 00:42:05,080That's not what I signed up for.90000:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,080And they bail.90100:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,720And I'm not mad at those people.90200:42:07,720 --> 00:42:14,260I have a massive compassion heart because I'm like, oh, you are so close to the kingdom90300:42:14,260 --> 00:42:16,040of God.90400:42:16,040 --> 00:42:21,720Because there is a dying to self that has to happen, a giving up of your life before90500:42:21,720 --> 00:42:27,080transformation comes, before change, a changed life.90600:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,840So just from your perspective, Annette, because we come from different backgrounds, similar90700:42:31,840 --> 00:42:32,840but different.90800:42:32,840 --> 00:42:40,000We come from the same area, West Texas, but we had vastly different backgrounds and stories.90900:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,400What does it mean for you?91000:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,160What does a changed life really mean?91100:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,160A changed life.91200:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,040See, when I get up in the morning, the first thing I think about is the Holy Spirit.91300:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,920So I say, good morning, Holy Spirit.91400:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,200I want to get in a devotion first thing.91500:42:55,200 --> 00:43:00,040Sometimes I'll get sidetracked because I'm not perfect.91600:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,700I'm one of those not perfect people, no perfect people allowed kind of in our church.91700:43:04,700 --> 00:43:09,920And I'll go, you know, I'll look at an email or something and I have to just sit there91800:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,860and go, wait a minute, I need to start my day with Christ.91900:43:13,860 --> 00:43:16,100And so I do my little devotion.92000:43:16,100 --> 00:43:21,160The thing is for me is he's with me all day long.92100:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,240You know, we have this dialogue that goes on.92200:43:24,240 --> 00:43:27,320You know, we talk to ourself all the time.92300:43:27,320 --> 00:43:32,320And instead of me just talking to myself, I turn that dialogue into talking and conversing92400:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,920with God because we all do that, right?92500:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,880We all talk to ourselves.92600:43:37,880 --> 00:43:38,880It's an inner monologue.92700:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,400It's an inner monologue.92800:43:40,400 --> 00:43:46,440And so now I have this, and I call it dialogue because I'm listening to what he's saying.92900:43:46,440 --> 00:43:51,060So it's not just a monologue to, you know, I'm not just the only, I'm just not just talking93000:43:51,060 --> 00:43:52,060to God.93100:43:52,060 --> 00:43:53,060I'm listening.93200:43:53,060 --> 00:44:00,400And I go through my life really seeking him daily.93300:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,840And as a Christian, that's what it's all about is to seek him.93400:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,480He gives us an assignment and it's the person you walk with.93500:44:09,480 --> 00:44:10,860It's the person you live with.93600:44:10,860 --> 00:44:12,960It's the person you work with.93700:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,680It's the person you play with.93800:44:14,680 --> 00:44:21,240You know, we have an assignment to be the light so that we're drawn, people are drawn93900:44:21,240 --> 00:44:22,240to us.94000:44:22,240 --> 00:44:26,520We don't have to go up and ask every single person if they know Christ.94100:44:26,520 --> 00:44:32,640We should be, people, we should be so compelling that people want to know what is it that makes94200:44:32,640 --> 00:44:33,640you smile?94300:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,380What is it that makes you have a good day?94400:44:35,380 --> 00:44:36,380What is it?94500:44:36,380 --> 00:44:37,380You know what I'm saying?94600:44:37,380 --> 00:44:38,380Absolutely.94700:44:38,380 --> 00:44:39,380And I love that.94800:44:39,380 --> 00:44:40,380It's wonderful.94900:44:40,380 --> 00:44:43,640There's a scripture that I learned as a young Christian, a new Christian, actually I was95000:44:43,640 --> 00:44:49,560shared the youth minister, Ricky Ketron back in the day said, man, you need to learn this95100:44:49,560 --> 00:44:50,560verse.95200:44:50,560 --> 00:44:55,380And so I looked it up and he shared it with me and I remember laying on my bed in a duplex95300:44:55,380 --> 00:44:58,680in the, in the total tech ghetto of Lubbock, Texas.95400:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,520It called it the tech ghetto.95500:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,800Now it's like really nice, but back then it was a ghetto and I'm laying on my bed.95600:45:04,800 --> 00:45:10,920I'm reading this verse out of my first real Bible and it stuck with me and it's it's second95700:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,560Corinthians five 17.95800:45:12,560 --> 00:45:13,560Oh yes.95900:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,560I love it.96000:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,840Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation.96100:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,720All things have passed away.96200:45:21,720 --> 00:45:25,160Behold all things are new, have become new.96300:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,160Isn't that powerful?96400:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,160Yes.96500:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,160A new creation.96600:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,320It's an, it's what one person termed a new creation reality.96700:45:32,320 --> 00:45:37,840When I love this goes along with what we talked about last week, which in Jude one, one, we96800:45:37,840 --> 00:45:44,580are called that we are loved and we are kept and you literally preached on that this Sunday96900:45:44,580 --> 00:45:47,240because we thought about it every day.97000:45:47,240 --> 00:45:50,960You were just like, not, not preach on what I was going to.97100:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,960This is it.97200:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,560I have to, I even posted about it.97300:45:53,560 --> 00:45:58,720I did a devotional today, which is on our website, living up and down world.com shameless97400:45:58,720 --> 00:45:59,720plug.97500:45:59,720 --> 00:46:00,720Yeah, go there.97600:46:00,720 --> 00:46:06,440I have devotional that I brought them every day or on there, but I could not not talk97700:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,440about that.97800:46:07,440 --> 00:46:08,440Right.97900:46:08,440 --> 00:46:15,320It is so imprinted me one of the most powerful scriptures I've read and I can't even tell98000:46:15,320 --> 00:46:21,400you how long it, it, it just, it, it just rings so loud in me.98100:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,320Every day you shared it with a girl.98200:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,320You are the catalyst.98300:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,440Oh, I just remember you're the talent.98400:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,440I'm just the producer.98500:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,540No, that's a, that's a Tina Adam.98600:46:30,540 --> 00:46:34,760But it's still the same and I'm tweaking and pushing sliders here and doing stuff, you98700:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,760know, stuff like that.98800:46:36,760 --> 00:46:43,160But, um, you, you shared that with me again after a workout on a Monday, wasn't it?98900:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,800That's why I like to have a cast after a Monday because I'm rocking out during a workout and99000:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,600then here you are listening to the word of God.99100:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,800Maybe I'm a little more spiritual than you.99200:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,800Oh no, I'm just kidding.99300:46:53,800 --> 00:46:54,800Wow.99400:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,800Wow.99500:46:55,800 --> 00:46:56,800Okay.99600:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,800You set off.99700:46:59,800 --> 00:47:05,480Well, I just, that's, uh, uh, sometimes I listen to music, but these days, I'm in a99800:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,480season.99900:47:06,480 --> 00:47:11,600I just have to hear it's the only thing that helps me get up in a down world.100000:47:11,600 --> 00:47:12,600I hear you.100100:47:12,600 --> 00:47:17,280But what I love is that you get in the word of God and then you like filter it to me.100200:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,280I get the Cliffs notes.100300:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,000I tell you all about it in the car.100400:47:20,000 --> 00:47:25,520And then we watch it and you know, so, and it's, it can be random.100500:47:25,520 --> 00:47:30,000Sometimes I'll just pull up YouTube and I'll just put a name in and it'll come up and I'll100600:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,600listen and it's just what I need in the moment.100700:47:32,600 --> 00:47:37,960Isn't that what a relationship is about is like God speaks into one of us.100800:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,280And then we're like, you gotta hear this.100900:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,400You've got to listen to this.101000:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,400And I do that too.101100:47:42,400 --> 00:47:43,400We, it works both ways.101200:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,120It's a beautiful exchange.101300:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,560And uh, I love that.101400:47:47,560 --> 00:47:52,960And so when you brought up Jude one and we looked at that scripture, I was, I was, I101500:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,520was slaying to you as it did to me slayed by it.101600:47:56,520 --> 00:47:57,520Yes.101700:47:57,520 --> 00:48:03,000I mean, and then you told called into this podcast and then he read the book of Jude.101800:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,480He was like, Oh my gosh, this and fat.101900:48:05,480 --> 00:48:06,480Okay.102000:48:06,480 --> 00:48:07,480That's the whole point of this podcast.102100:48:07,480 --> 00:48:08,480There you go.102200:48:08,480 --> 00:48:13,120Point you to the word to Jesus himself.102300:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,120And that's it.102400:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,120Yeah.102500:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,160So let's just go ahead and give up while we're doing this.102600:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,760This is our why.102700:48:18,760 --> 00:48:27,680Our why is that we want you to know the person of Jesus Christ, not religion, not just church,102800:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,600but the person of Jesus Christ.102900:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,720Go to church.103000:48:31,720 --> 00:48:32,720Exactly.103100:48:32,720 --> 00:48:36,200Does not make you, it doesn't make you a Christian no more than going to McDonald's makes you103200:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,200a Big Mac.103300:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,200Exactly.103400:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,040I loved Big Macs growing up.103500:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,040I'm weird.103600:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,040I loved them.103700:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,160But anyway, I'm suddenly hungry.103800:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,760But anyway, we haven't had dinner and it's like eight o'clock.103900:48:46,760 --> 00:48:47,760Yeah.104000:48:47,760 --> 00:48:54,480So anyway, our whole point of doing this is because we, our heart is to point you to Jesus.104100:48:54,480 --> 00:48:59,320And I want to say thank you for, they've had many people write in and say, you know what?104200:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,320I'm, I'm stepping back into my faith podcast.104300:49:03,320 --> 00:49:08,280And also because of what Adam and Tina are doing with a curry and the keeper, they, they104400:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,080continue to share their faith journey and share what God's doing.104500:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,320People are coming saying, you know, I'm coming back.104600:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,280I'm so excited.104700:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,720This is the whole point of podcast period.104800:49:19,720 --> 00:49:22,000It started with the God casters.104900:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,560It's going to end with the God cast.105000:49:24,560 --> 00:49:25,560Come on now.105100:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,760I mean, God dropped this into Adam's heart.105200:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,52019 didn't even know why.105300:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,200Didn't know for sure, but look what God's doing.105400:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,840So we want to thank you for listening.105500:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,760And I just kind of do some shout outs.105600:49:37,760 --> 00:49:42,440I mean, my gosh, we could preach for hours, but I'm going to do some shout outs.105700:49:42,440 --> 00:49:43,440Listen to this.105800:49:43,440 --> 00:49:44,440Some very cool stuff that's happened.105900:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,440Listen to this.106000:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,920Um, RG at RG BTC.106100:49:51,920 --> 00:49:52,920Love this.106200:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,600God bless you and bridge church.106300:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,720Chimin and net boost.106400:49:56,720 --> 00:49:57,720Thank you for the boost.106500:49:57,720 --> 00:49:58,720My friend.106600:49:58,720 --> 00:49:59,720We so appreciate that.106700:49:59,720 --> 00:50:01,080We love Satoshi's.106800:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,120It's just fun getting feedback.106900:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,120Yes.107000:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,160Value for value is an amazing thing.107100:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,160It's amazing platform.107200:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,960And it's a way to say, you know what?107300:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,400I value what you're doing.107400:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,680I value what you're saying.107500:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,320I value who you are and I'm going to send some value your way.107600:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,720And that could be through Satoshi's.107700:50:16,720 --> 00:50:23,160It could be through simply on PayPal through living up in a world.com or, or, or emails.107800:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,200It's just a way of saying thank you for what you're doing.107900:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,200So thank you.108000:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,200I love this.108100:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,800Sir, by his grace says this just keeps getting better.108200:50:31,800 --> 00:50:32,800Loved in capitals.108300:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,000I love that.108400:50:34,000 --> 00:50:41,480Loved how biblical show 23 was I'm driving to Idaho from Florida and had a wet few hours108500:50:41,480 --> 00:50:47,000as massive downpours and storms today through Alabama and Mississippi.108600:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,400Y'all's shout out.108700:50:48,400 --> 00:50:49,400Sure pet me up.108800:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,200I sure love Roman.108900:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,200So do we, my friend.109000:50:53,200 --> 00:50:59,880T Y F Y C thank you for the something boost.109100:50:59,880 --> 00:51:07,360I'm slowed down on the Tina said what it was, but thank you for your calm.109200:51:07,360 --> 00:51:08,360I don't know.109300:51:08,360 --> 00:51:09,360I can't remember now.109400:51:09,360 --> 00:51:10,360Sorry.109500:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,800I'm sorry by his grace, but thank you for the comments, brother.109600:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,880And the boost blessings to you, Adam, the pod father, Curry.109700:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,400I want to always make sure I give him kudos and credits.109800:51:20,400 --> 00:51:26,480He says this, I love it when an episode makes me want to read the discussed scripture right109900:51:26,480 --> 00:51:27,480away.110000:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,560Jude on deck.110100:51:29,560 --> 00:51:30,560Great episode.110200:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,120It gave us an amazing striper boost.110300:51:33,120 --> 00:51:37,920Adam, I need that file for the, the wave file for the striper boost.110400:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,840It's really awesome when you do that.110500:51:39,840 --> 00:51:40,920Thank you.110600:51:40,920 --> 00:51:48,600And then also Eric for being our second big, our donor through.110700:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,160Thank you, Eric, for that gift.110800:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,160Thank you, Eric.110900:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,160Such a great brother.111000:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,800We appreciate you and thanks for encouraging us and supporting us.111100:51:56,800 --> 00:51:57,800It means a ton.111200:51:57,800 --> 00:51:58,800It really does.111300:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,080It makes what we're doing just so worthwhile and then we can bless it forward.111400:52:03,080 --> 00:52:04,080Exactly.111500:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,080Which is so our heart.111600:52:05,080 --> 00:52:10,680And one more shout out to Mr. Adam, the pod father, Curry for being our founding donor.111700:52:10,680 --> 00:52:11,680He is.111800:52:11,680 --> 00:52:12,680Boom.111900:52:12,680 --> 00:52:13,680He was our first one.112000:52:13,680 --> 00:52:14,680I know.112100:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,720Thanks brother for the encouragement and the support.112200:52:16,720 --> 00:52:18,520We love you and family.112300:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,920We want you to know we love you and our heart for you is Jesus.112400:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,000Our heart for you is the good news.112500:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,760It's very simple by the way.112600:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,200It's simply this.112700:52:28,200 --> 00:52:33,160Jesus lived the life we should have lived and he died the death.112800:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,560We should have died in our place.112900:52:36,560 --> 00:52:41,840And then after he died, three days later, he was raised from the dead, proving that113000:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,280he's the son of God and proving his love for you.113100:52:45,280 --> 00:52:52,240And that he says this, that if anyone would believe in him, he would come into our lives.113200:52:52,240 --> 00:52:55,760He would forgive us of our sins and he would be with us forever.113300:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,000The scripture says we will not perish.113400:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,880That is our heart for you.113500:53:00,880 --> 00:53:01,880God bless you.113600:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,760Thank you for listening today.113700:53:03,760 --> 00:53:04,760We are so.113800:53:04,760 --> 00:53:05,760Oh my God.113900:53:05,760 --> 00:53:06,760I love you.114000:53:06,760 --> 00:53:07,760Hey, blessings to you our friends.114100:53:07,760 --> 00:53:08,760We love you.114200:53:08,760 --> 00:53:09,760Much love.114300:53:09,760 --> 00:53:10,760Have an amazing week on purpose.114400:53:10,760 --> 00:53:11,760We'll see you next week.114500:53:11,760 --> 00:53:12,760God bless you.114600:53:12,760 --> 00:53:32,240Bye bye.