"Bent But Not Broken"

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:29,920 This is Jimmy and Annette and of course Mr. Shavy is with us today. 2 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:36,400 We are Living Up In A Down World and this is podcast number 38. So we're rolling right along. 3 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,800 We want to welcome you to our show today and we are so glad that you're here and that you've 4 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:46,000 joined us and we just want you to listen and participate by going to our website, 5 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,400 Living Up In A Down World. You can always leave a review, you can write us a note, 6 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:57,040 leave a comment or you can find us on social media, Facebook. Facebook. Why did you say it that way? 7 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,960 Well, because we were talking about algorithms earlier today and it just got me in a bad mood 8 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:08,160 about Facebook. You mean the devil? Oh my gosh. We learned so much this week. We did. Talk a little 9 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:13,440 bit about what we got to do. I mean we had a lot going on, right? The first Sunday we left. After 10 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:19,040 church? After church. Well, church wasn't even over and you just handed the mic to someone else, 11 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:25,680 just another pastor and said, we got to go catch a plane. So we left. We went to San Antonio, 12 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:32,000 got on a plane to Dallas, went to a conference for a few days at Gateway and it was one of the 13 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,720 best conferences we've ever attended. So who was speaking? Because there were amazing speakers. 14 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:50,720 Christine Kane, Dr. Tony Evans, Joyce Meyer, Craig Groeschel and Robert Morris. It was a wow time, 15 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:55,200 honestly. And also in terms of leading worship, if you're familiar with Christian music world. 16 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,600 Martin Smith. Yeah, Martin Smith from Delirious in Brooke. I never can remember her. Legginwood. 17 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:10,160 She's from Hillsong and she's on her own stuff. But anyway, they participated with the Gateway 18 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:17,440 Worship Team, which those guys are phenomenal. It was powerful. It was so powerful. Okay. 19 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,960 Since our sabbatical, something's happened to me. I've become... I told you people weren't 20 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:28,400 going to recognize you. I'm a complete crybaby. I mean, when worship starts, whether it's at our 21 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:35,200 own church, which it did this Sunday and here they came, you know, or whether we're at a conference. 22 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:41,920 Oh, you were crying the moment they came out to lead worship. I was... Wow. I mean, God has really 23 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:48,640 done a work, a deep, deep, deep work in me. Yes, for sure. And I mean, I think the ripple effect of 24 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:54,240 that is going to just continue to go out. And I think I'm going to discover new things that He's 25 00:02:54,240 --> 00:03:02,000 done in me. It's mind-bending. Yeah, it is. When I turned and looked at you, when they first came 26 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:08,320 out, you know, in the first five minutes of that conference and saw you weeping, it just... Wow. 27 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:13,120 I was just like, wow, the rest of the conference. I can't even imagine what's going to happen by 28 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:20,880 the time we leave. And it was powerful. It was a powerful conference. It was for pastors and leaders. 29 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:31,520 It was very much kind of... How would you describe the... I mean, the tone of it was... 30 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,120 The speakers, you mean? Yeah, what they were saying, the themes? It was all... 31 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:44,240 It was actually... It was calling pastors and leaders up and calling them out to say, 32 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:50,080 it's time to get back. COVID's over. Let's go. And some people would say COVID's really not over, 33 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:55,040 but... Right. You know what I'm saying though. I mean, the crisis, the pandemic. Let's go. We 34 00:03:55,040 --> 00:04:00,240 got to get back on mission. And that's really what... I was already there in my own heart. In fact, 35 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:05,200 I preached a message last week on that very thing, let's get back on mission, talking about the Great 36 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:10,800 Commission and talking about the power of our words, even in the context of the Lord's prayer. 37 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:19,280 So all I got from them was confirmation of what God has been saying in me, really for months, 38 00:04:19,280 --> 00:04:24,320 but all of a sudden I'm hearing it everywhere. But we're seeing so many pastors compromise their 39 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:31,760 faith to get accolades from people. And they want to please people, but we're supposed to please God, 40 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:39,520 number one. And I'm glad you've chosen not to go down that route. And that was... 51%. Yeah, 51%. 41 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:47,200 That's all it needs to like me. And in listening to all the speakers, it was... The theme was the 42 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:54,240 same. And I don't even know if that was planned. God usually always... Somehow it weaves into the 43 00:04:54,240 --> 00:05:03,440 same theme, even if a pastor says, hey, do what God's putting on your heart. It's amazing what 44 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,520 happens in the middle of that. Yeah, the Holy Spirit moves in and begins to massage it and move 45 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:13,120 it towards something. And then these themes pop up. And so the themes were, it's time to shake off 46 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:19,280 the dust. It's time to brush off the dirt from your last fall. It's time to bandage the wounds 47 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:24,880 and get going, get back in the game. I'm always going to use athletics, but get back on the 48 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,760 playing field, get back in the ring, get back in the battleground. The message we want for our 49 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:38,240 church, not just our pastors, but our church. It's time to quit being complacent in our faith. 50 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:43,200 That's right. We need to be active and not so passive in our faith. We just jumped right in, 51 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,440 didn't we? We did. But that's okay. But it's true because we're passionate about this. 52 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:54,000 God is up to something. As we quote C.S. Lewis, Chronicles of Narnia, Aslan is on the move. 53 00:05:54,000 --> 00:06:00,000 God is on the move. And I don't want to miss anything. I mean, we've heard about the revivals 54 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,560 popping up all over America right now. And I'm like, well, why not here? And why not now? 55 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,640 Well, a revival is just waiting to happen. He's just waiting for someone to stand up and 56 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,520 say yes. That's all. Just say yes. Just give him your yes. The way I put it is, 57 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:19,040 we need to be a revival, looking for a place to break out. So show up and say, all right, 58 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:23,040 the revival's here because I'm being revived in my own heart, my own spirit. 59 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:28,480 Because that's what a revival is. It is. It's laying down everything and saying, 60 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:36,080 I'm here, God. Use me. Do what you want with me. And then hopefully, prayerfully, other people 61 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,880 will take note and do the same thing. And then you could have crowds of people. That's how a 62 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:46,400 revival begins. It reminds me of Isaiah in chapter six, as he's standing before the God. He has this 63 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:52,960 vision. He says, I saw the Lord seated on throne, high and lifted up. The train of his robe filled 64 00:06:52,960 --> 00:07:01,040 the temple. I mean, what a vivid picture. And his response was, whoa, is me. I'm undone. I'm a man 65 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:06,000 of unclean lips and I live among the people of unclean lips. I mean, he literally is saying, 66 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:12,560 I can't even stand in your presence. And that's where we need to get to. That's it. Us starts 67 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,720 with us. Yeah. It starts with you. It starts with leaders. It starts with you. Yeah. I mean, 68 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:22,000 and then it trickles down. When Aaron poured the oil, you know, or when the oil was poured over 69 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:28,160 Aaron, the Psalm says it ran down his beard. It starts on the top. And so whatever level of 70 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:33,120 leadership you find yourself in, you need to say, you know what, if it's to be, it begins with me. 71 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:40,080 So I'll put myself on the altar and I'll let God light me on fire, so to speak, and let's go. 72 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:45,680 Let's get it in gear. And I think there's a lot of churches, and you can explain this as I say this, 73 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:53,840 that are compromising the word of God to please people. I think God will stamp Ichabod on those 74 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,640 churches. And you might explain what I just said. Yeah. Ichabod means the Lord is no longer here. 75 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:04,720 I mean, it's a stamp. It's a mark to say that God's presence has departed this place. 76 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:11,520 And I believe it will when you see these churches that are compromising. I was meeting with our 77 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,760 elders last night. I had a three-hour meeting with them. And what I was doing is rallying the troops, 78 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:22,320 just saying, guys, no more compromise. Straight on. We got to pray for revival. We got to believe in 79 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:28,080 God's given words and showing us things. And I mean, literally, I'm blown away about what's 80 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:33,360 happening right now. Our church is on the verge of a blow up in a good way. I totally believe that. 81 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:38,320 Revival. So I met with my elders, and I love these men. And of course, they're like all in. 82 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:45,280 And what I was saying was, you know, we can't quench a revival. God's going to bring revival. 83 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:51,760 We can't stop a revival, but God will, if we don't receive and participate and cooperate with Him, 84 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,840 He'll move it down the road to some other group of people that's crying out for revival. 85 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:02,000 So you can't stop a revival no more than you can stand in front of a wave in the ocean and stop it. 86 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:07,200 It'll just bowl you over. But it will go on. And you can either catch the wave and ride it, 87 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,120 or you can stand there and try to fight and resist it, and it'll just move on past you 88 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,040 after it knocks you over. Well, it's interesting because we're going to have a prayer knot, 89 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,320 prayer and worship knot. I'm so pumped about this. Usually when we have a knot of worship, 90 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:23,040 there's baptism, and we're just all worship and a little bit of prayer. This is more prayer 91 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:30,240 with a little bit of worship sprinkled in. And we're being very intentional about the worship. 92 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:36,960 Pastor Russ is coming up with some songs with the theme that goes along with the Lord's Prayer. 93 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,680 But it'll be interesting because we're doing this on October 15th to see how many people actually 94 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:47,520 show up. That's going to be very telling. Now I understand people have things they have to do 95 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:53,200 and everything. But typically when you have a prayer service, when you say, I have a knot of 96 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:59,200 worship, we have a good amount of people show up. But when you have a prayer service, it will be so 97 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:04,560 interesting how many people actually attend. It's going to be very telling. Well, on Sunday, 98 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:10,400 I challenged our church pretty directly. I mean, I just pretty straight up. And again, it's not to 99 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:17,040 be caustic or to be bold or audacious, but it is to say, God's given us courage and we need to walk 100 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:22,880 in courageous faith and we need to step up and stand up and say, here we are Lord, use us, send 101 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:29,280 us. So I challenged the church. I said the same number that are here today, we had what, 445 102 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:34,080 people in church on Sunday, close to 450. And I'm like, that's what we should have at the prayer 103 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:41,200 service. It should be us coming together to pray and ask God for spiritual awakening and revival. 104 00:10:42,560 --> 00:10:45,120 I love reading about revivals, breaking out in other places. 105 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:50,800 But I want to be a part of one. Exactly. And I don't want to fly to another state to be a part 106 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:58,400 of one. I want it here because God's reviving our spirit. So that was a, going back to Gateway, 107 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:07,520 that was, it just, it ended on Tuesday evening. It was beautiful. We flew back Wednesday and, 108 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:13,040 wow. We had one day to turn around. One day to turn around. Wash our clothes. 109 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,200 And then we go to another conference. Yeah. Repack and be ready for the second conference, 110 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:25,120 which was Spark Media. Yes. You say it. Yeah. Spark Media Ignite. Ignite. Podcastor's Conference. 111 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:32,800 And it was put on by Misty Philip and her family. And they had about 150 attendees and it was, 112 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:40,880 it was excellent. It was. They did everything with excellence. And it was, I didn't know what to 113 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,480 expect. We've never been to a podcasters conference. Because it really went to a 114 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:51,040 conference. It was an awards. Right. But it had a lot of, there was breakout times where they had 115 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:57,760 speakers and they weren't long, which was really good. Just short 30 to 40 minute speakers to help 116 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:03,040 you develop your podcast. Some of them I was like, could he talk longer? That was really good. I know. 117 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:09,200 But it was very interesting and more spiritual. I mean, I know it's a Christian podcast event. 118 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:14,320 But it was ministry focused. But it was very ministry focused. Very impressed. Wonderful. 119 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:20,160 So we went with our dear friends, Adam and Tina Curry of Curry and the Keeper and No Agenda Fame. 120 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:28,160 And we flew together and man, what a, just what a sweet adventure it was. We had so much fun for one 121 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,800 thing because we all love each other and love hanging out. So we actually flew out of a municipal 122 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,920 airport. We were blessed to fly on a private plane. So that was my first gig to go on a private plane. 123 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:43,200 But you know, Adam Curry, he's the pot father. He's going to do a first class. So we jumped on a plane 124 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:48,880 in our little town, our little airport. We flew directly to Houston into another little airport. 125 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:54,080 And Misty picked us up at the airport and we were able to, I mean, within an hour and 10 minutes, 126 00:12:54,080 --> 00:13:00,240 we were there and already at the venue. And there was a lot of good things that happened. First of 127 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:07,520 all, just never having attended a podcast conference, knowing not what to expect. So we walked in 128 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:12,880 just kind of like, okay, what's going on here? And of course, a lot of people recognized Adam 129 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,120 right off the bat. I mean, like they were fawning. It was hilarious. Well, people were excited that 130 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:24,080 he was going to be a keynote speaker. And I'll brag about him in just a minute. So, but we started 131 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,320 stopping at booths and saying hi to people. And then Adam said, said, Jimmy, I want you to come 132 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,320 over here. I want to, I want to introduce you to somebody. So we go over to a booth and on the booth, 133 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:37,440 it says focus on the family. I'm like, oh, I know this ministry. And then he introduced me to Rob 134 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:46,560 Kilpatrick. And Rob is just one of those gentle, strong souls, sharp. He's been working for Focus 135 00:13:46,560 --> 00:13:52,640 on the Family for 37 years. And we just had a wonderful conversation. And I was shocked to 136 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:59,440 find out that he has listened to our podcast. So I was honored and blessed by that. But just, 137 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,600 wow. I mean, because sometimes, okay, there's a thing, okay, those of you that are listening, 138 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:09,600 if you're not a podcaster, you need to understand every speaker that got up that's a podcaster, 139 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:15,920 said this at one point during their presentation. I've often wondered if anyone is listening, 140 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:21,920 because there's not great feedback mechanisms in podcasting. If you're preaching live in a 141 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:26,400 church, people clap, yell, or shout you down. Or if you're on YouTube, you can hit the share button. 142 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:31,920 You can hit the likes, you can chat. It's totally different. In podcasting, it's just going out 143 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:38,080 there into the air, into the worldwide web. And you just wonder where it's landing. So you don't 144 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:44,560 always know. And so every one of them, even the ones that won awards and were rated top, they all 145 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,280 said the same thing. Sometimes we wonder if anyone's listening and if it's worth our time to do. 146 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,360 And I thought I was the only one who thought those things. 147 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,320 Yeah. Because how many times have we said, maybe we shouldn't do this? Because I don't know if it's... 148 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:03,200 Yeah. And here's the thing, we don't want to do anything that's not going to bring value to people. 149 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:08,240 That's right. That's right. Because it's got to be meaningful and bring value. And if we're going to 150 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:16,080 take the time and put the work into this, I want God to honor that. And it to be helpful. And so 151 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:24,640 everybody at that conference, they all feel the same way. And it's not about them, it's about 152 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:31,360 what can we do to get the gospel to people and help them, give them hope. It was beautiful. 153 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,520 All kinds of different podcasts, yet all with the central theme of Jesus is Lord. 154 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:41,760 I came away very inspired and very encouraged and feeling like we're not alone. Even though 155 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,520 Adam and Tina have just been come around us and they're coaching us and walking with us. 156 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,800 It's good to know there's others out there that feel the same way and struggle with some of the 157 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:56,480 same struggles. That a lack of confidence or can we really do this or does it really matter? 158 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,080 So it was good to have that. We felt like we were part of a community. 159 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:06,320 You feel this way a lot on Sundays wondering, because this is what the enemy does to you in 160 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,760 the morning. Oh, yeah. Did I hit the mark? Yeah, did I hit it? Or is anybody going to show up today? 161 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,520 Are we going to drive up to church? Of course, we go early, but... 162 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,040 I've had nightmares like that. I know, that's what I'm saying. And so it's really no different 163 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,600 than you being a preacher at the church. You're wondering if people are going to show up. 164 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,480 And then you're amazed that they do. So I added this stress, why? 165 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:30,400 I don't know. Why did you? Now, here's the bottom line, is we want to look at every possible channel 166 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,800 to get the good news of Jesus Christ out there. If you're listening today, that's our heart for you 167 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:40,960 that you would know Jesus. He already knows you, but we want you to know Him. And that's why we do 168 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,840 what we do. That's why we take our time. We spend our own money to get all this gear and put all this 169 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:51,680 together. And it is because we care about you and we want you to hear the good news of Jesus Christ. 170 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,560 And we want you to be able to live up in a down world because... 171 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:59,360 Absolutely. It's crazy out there. Yes. And we're not always up, 172 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:03,440 but we can get up pretty quick once we put our eyes on Jesus, period. 173 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,840 How do we do that? That's a good statement right there. 174 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:13,360 Well, we've talked about this today earlier on how... Talk about the storm. Talk about the storm, 175 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:16,080 because this is going to lead us right into what I was going to say. 176 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,640 Okay. About two and a half weeks ago, I mentioned this, I think, on one of the podcasts, but I want 177 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:24,400 you to hear this again because there's a point to this. I needed to drive into town. We live about 178 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:29,840 16 miles outside of our town. So we live out in beautiful Texas Hill country. So I needed to drive 179 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,440 into Fredericksburg. Our daughter lives and her husband live in an apartment there and she needed 180 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:39,600 a ride because he hit a deer. So his truck's out of commission for a bit. So no big deal, right? 181 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,600 I'm going to run to town, pick her up, run her over to the church for rehearsal, for worship, 182 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,400 even though I wasn't playing on the team that night. So I was just going to drop her off and 183 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:52,080 come home. And I was telling you, there's a big storm coming. Yeah. We had seen the storm clouds 184 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:58,000 building over Fredericksburg and we were like, those look pretty ominous. They look pretty dark. 185 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:03,280 So I start driving into town and I run into some of the most severe weather I've ever driven in. 186 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,720 And you and I have been in some serious weather. I would not have been able to handle it. No, 187 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:11,440 you would have lost your mind, literally. I mean, you would have been... You like tornadoes and 188 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:17,440 storms and all that. I'm not, that is not me. You would be a storm chaser if you weren't a preacher. 189 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,520 Come on. I could have been. Yes, you would. Absolutely. I love it. Newt twisters on my 190 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:27,600 famous all time favorite movies. So anyway, so I'm driving it and I mean, it gets so bad. 191 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:32,000 You know, everyone's got their flashers on, on the road. People are pulling off on the road. 192 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,400 Now I've learned something about storms. If you're in a storm, you can either sit there and get 193 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:41,520 pounded or you can drive through it and punch out on the other side. So I keep moving. And I've 194 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,320 learned that through the years of driving through several storms. But you're not afraid you're going 195 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,560 to hit someone in front of you? Everybody's got their blinkers on. You're driving three miles an 196 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:55,120 hour. I mean, at this point, so at one point it got so intense that, I mean, there was hail coming 197 00:18:55,120 --> 00:19:00,080 down. I was like, Lord, and I was praying to Lord, don't let hail damage my car, break my windshields, 198 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:06,560 you know, and cause damage. And so I was praying and driving slowly. My, almost my forehead was up 199 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,920 to the windshield. I was just trying to see, cause it was so intense. You could barely see the road. 200 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:17,040 And at a couple of times you couldn't see the road. But what I could see by looking up on the 201 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:21,920 horizon, I could see the trees that are on the side of the road and they were bending 202 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:27,520 ridiculously. I knew there was rotation in the clouds because I'd spotted that. And I know how to, 203 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:32,640 how to read all that stuff. So I knew it was serious. You know, you get micro bursts, 204 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:37,440 you get gusts natos. I mean, there's a lot of things that can happen down bursts that can be 205 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:43,440 really, they can be as dangerous as a small tornado. So we were in that. That was what was happening. 206 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,680 Not we, you. Well, I mean, the other cars that were around me were all, 207 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,520 I'm like, I wasn't there. You all become kind of a weird community in that moment of crisis. 208 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,280 And like I said, many of them are pulling off the side of the road. And then what happened was 209 00:19:55,280 --> 00:20:02,400 the wind stopped for a second and it completely switched directions. Wow. And the tree started 210 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:08,160 bending the opposite way. Now anybody's a storm chaser knows whether that's not a good sign. No, 211 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:14,960 no. That, that means there could be circulation that's now pulling the wind into it, like a funnel, 212 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,440 a tornado. So anyway, I'm looking for that, but you can't, there's no way you could see. So there 213 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:26,400 was a moment where I thought, okay, this could get really bad. And in the middle of all that, 214 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:31,680 finally I was able to punch through and got clear. And then the sun came out. It was the craziest 215 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:37,040 thing, you know, and then, you know, there's movement. And when I drove back through, back home, 216 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:43,760 there was debris everywhere. I mean, trees, branches and all that. But what I was really, 217 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:50,720 what was remarkable is that these trees were bent, but they weren't getting broken. And I thought, 218 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:59,280 what a reminder of us as followers of Jesus. I mean, the storms, the winds blow, the storms come, 219 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:08,240 sometimes life situations, circumstances, diagnoses just slam you. I sat with a man today who is 220 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:14,400 probably going to die tonight or tomorrow. That quick? Yeah, yeah. He's got stage four pancreatic 221 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,960 cancer. Just found out. Just found out a week or two ago, actually last Wednesday. And now he's 222 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,280 already going to pass. So another funeral. And so when I heard today that they had taken him home 223 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,040 for hospice care and it didn't look good, I just drove straight out to his house. He lives out in 224 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:32,880 the country. And I sat down with this precious man and held his hand. I prayed with him. I talked to 225 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:41,120 him about Jesus, make sure he's at peace. And he said, I know Jesus is my savior. I'm ready. He said, 226 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:46,080 I'm ready to go into his arms. And he would say that between falling asleep because his organs 227 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:52,240 are starting to shut down. So he's in hospice care. And of course his daughters were there and they 228 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:57,840 said, yeah, he could go, you know, anytime now. So I wanted to make sure I got there. I didn't want 229 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:04,080 to not go and then regret not getting out there. And sitting there, it's just so sobering to see 230 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,600 that life can hit you hard. It can come out of nowhere. I've got a friend tomorrow, my friend 231 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:17,280 Mark, who lives out in Arizona. He's having surgery. And recently he had a real cancer scare. 232 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,760 And they said they found it and then we prayed and then it was gone. But he's got a surgery 233 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,920 because they had to do some things to prep for the major surgery. Now they got to unprep him in a 234 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,480 sense. It all has to do with this colon and stuff. I don't understand all that. But anyway, 235 00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:36,960 we have people that are close to us where life has caved in on them. And if you're listening to this 236 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:43,760 today, and I know there are many people that will hear this and you would say, I don't have cancer, 237 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:49,280 and maybe you do, but life has caved in on me. Things are not working. And I feel like I'm about 238 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:56,880 to break. I am definitely bent and I'm afraid I'm at the snapping point. We've used that language 239 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,560 before. I feel like I'm about to break. I'm about to snap or I'm at my breaking point. 240 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:10,080 That's a common word to use. And the thing that we know about God, Annette and I, we've always 241 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:17,440 tried to live what we call a but God life. Can you explain that? It's just knowing that 242 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:26,080 we have hope in the midst of the worst circumstances. That even though it looks bad on the surface, 243 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:34,240 but God, God can do anything. He can help us rise above those circumstances. It's like we were 244 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:43,280 talking earlier. We were bent. We have been bent, but we were never broken. He's such a good God. 245 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:50,240 He's going to see to it that we get through things. And that's what a good God does. It doesn't mean 246 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:55,920 he's going to keep us from those things happening because we live in a fallen world and things are 247 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:10,160 going to happen to us. How many times have we had diagnosis or relationship quarrels or sickness, 248 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:16,320 loss of jobs, different things? A beer runs out in front of your car. 249 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:23,760 Yeah, exactly. We all have things that happen, but we've got our whole goal as Christians. If 250 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:30,080 you're a Christian, our first thought should be, we've got to turn to God and look up to him 251 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:36,880 and know that he's going to take care of it somehow because he gives us hope. That's the God we know. 252 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:42,960 And he always does. And it's never in the timing that we want because we live on human time. He 253 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:51,520 lives on a whole different time, but he always gets us through. And he has. He's always gotten 254 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:57,200 us through, always. He has. He's faithful. And so to live a but God life means, yeah, this may be 255 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:02,720 difficult and this may be hard, but God. One of the things that I was talking to you about 256 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:10,880 earlier is how I've gotten through some of those challenges that we've had throughout our life. 257 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:23,280 And typically, when I'm having a really down day or I'm having a moment where the enemy's just 258 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:30,480 taken my thoughts and just twisted everything, or I've had a major challenge that we've had to get 259 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:36,800 through, the first thing I do is turn on worship music. Yeah. Now, why does that? What does that 260 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:45,040 do to you when you do that? Well, it raises my spirit because when you're putting your eyes on 261 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:52,640 the Creator, your Creator, there is something about worshiping the Creator that takes you. You're 262 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:58,080 putting your eyes on him and taking your eyes off of your circumstances. If you look at the book of 263 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:05,840 Psalms, a lot of the verses start with praise the Lord and a lot of them end with praise the Lord. 264 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:14,320 You look at the New Testament, the model prayer, the Lord's Prayer. It starts with a praise. It 265 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:22,400 ends with a praise. That is the model prayer for us as we are praying through challenges. But the 266 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:30,160 first thing we need to do is recognize God in this situation. People that don't know God, 267 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:38,240 they don't know. They don't have that hope. So they're trying to fix things on their own or they're 268 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:46,080 using drugs and alcohol or addiction, whatever, escapism to get through things. But as a Christian, 269 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:55,920 our number one should be to go to God, period. For me, music has always played a huge part in my life, 270 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:04,400 even as a young person. I loved the rock and roll stations as a young person. I remember turning on 271 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:13,440 songs that made me happy when I was in a bad place in my life. When I became a Christian and really 272 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,720 walked out my Christianity, not just being introduced and, yes, God, I know who you are, 273 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:25,120 but I've been putting you on a shelf. But when I began to really release my will to Him, it changed 274 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:34,080 drastically to where I have to turn on worship music so I can just worship Him and feel Him. 275 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:39,040 That's when I really feel Him. And it lifts my spirit. It lifts my spirit. 276 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:47,600 I love that. I remember hearing a message one time about a guy saying that he had this summer 277 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,040 where he had to get a summer job. His dad was all over him as a teenager. 278 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,320 I love this message. 279 00:27:54,720 --> 00:28:03,040 He got employed by a dairy queen and they had this big ditch, like a big bar ditch, 280 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,920 in front of their dairy queen. It was really long and it faced a busy road in their little town. 281 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:13,920 And he spent half his summer with a yoyo. If anybody knows what a yoyo is, it's called a 282 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:19,760 weed whacker. And it's not one with a motor on it. It's hand. You swing, you swing, you swing. 283 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:25,440 And he had to do that for a summer. And all of his friends would drive by and laugh at him, 284 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:31,280 make fun of him. And here he was in that ditch. And he said, at one point, he was just ready to 285 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:38,400 just go tell the boss, forget it. I'm out. This is a dumb job. I'm smarter than this. I'm better. 286 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,920 And in the middle of that, he had committed his life to Christ and God began to speak to him. 287 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:49,760 And one of those hot days, I was either really sun stroking, like delirious, or God was speaking 288 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,720 to me. And he said, the Lord said, you need to praise your way out of this bar ditch. 289 00:28:54,720 --> 00:29:00,320 And he was like, what? He said, praise your way out of this ditch. And he started 290 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,440 using that, the rhythm of that yoyo going back and forth, swinging it back and forth. And he 291 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:12,080 started singing songs that he knew and praising God and praying in rhythm to that yoyo. And he 292 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:18,640 said, literally, after a few days of this, then his, that cloud began to lift off of him. His 293 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:24,560 friends would drive by and he had a smile on his face instead of looking dejected and down. And he 294 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:31,120 literally said, I praised my way out of that bar ditch. We heard that, gosh, probably 25 years ago. 295 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:36,320 And I still remember that story. I will never forget that story. Because there are times when 296 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,560 you do feel stuck, you feel like you're down in the weeds and it's like, I can't even see because 297 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:46,800 the weeds are so high or the debris and the stuff of life. And that sermon comes back to me that, 298 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:52,240 I need to praise my way out of this bar ditch. I need to begin to praise God in the darkness. 299 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:57,200 The scripture talks in Psalm 23 about the valley of the shadow of death. 300 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:02,880 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil for you are with me. 301 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,680 And that idea of even when you're down in that valley, you're down in that bar ditch, you're 302 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:13,280 down in those places, that's when you start to praise. But it's also the time when you don't 303 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:20,480 feel like it. And this is where we're called upon to walk by faith and not by sight. And so a lot 304 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:25,600 of times a signal for me to praise God and worship is when I don't feel like it. That's like an 305 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,800 autopilot. It's like a flag goes off in me and says, that's all the more reason to put on some 306 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:36,800 music that praises God and honors Him and enter into worship. And so a lot of times you come in 307 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,120 the opposite spirit of what you're feeling, what your flesh is telling you. And you're like, okay, 308 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:48,080 I don't want to, but I need to, I have to. And so in a way you're praising yourself out of your own 309 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,720 bar ditch or you're praising God out of your own bar ditch. Well, and I heard a preacher say one 310 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:59,440 time that people come in with their palms up or their palms down. And when their palms are up, 311 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:04,960 they're praising God. But when their palms are down, you know, they're not in a good place. 312 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:11,920 And I realized, gosh, I don't want to judge people that can't get there, but I do want to 313 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:17,280 pray that they can get there. That they can get to that point where their palms are up 314 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:22,480 and they're literally surrendering. They're surrendering their circumstances, their challenges 315 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:27,920 to the Lord and saying, I can't do this anymore. Because I think that thing so much of us think we 316 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:33,840 have to fix everything. And if we would just give it to God, and it's so hard because a lot of times 317 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:39,040 we'll give it to Him, then we'll take it back. And He's like, I was right there about to take that 318 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:44,960 from you and you took it back. How many times has that happened? And we've got to get to the 319 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:50,880 point of maturity to where we give it to Him and say, okay, it's all yours. And then you take your 320 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:57,120 hands off of it. And now your palms are looking at God. So back to our palm tree or our trees, 321 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,160 we didn't want to have palm trees here in the hill country. These trees that I saw, 322 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:06,720 this bent but not broken thing, that has become through the years a statement that I make. I say, 323 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,680 I'll even in my prayer time say, Lord, I may be bent today, but I am not broken. In the name of 324 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:19,040 Jesus, I am not broken. I don't agree with that. Christ in me is the hope of glory. I just use the 325 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:26,240 word of God to praise my way and preach my way, preach to myself sometimes. Sometimes you need to 326 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:31,760 preach to yourself and let the word of God do what the word of God does because it has power 327 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:38,000 and your words have power. And so sometimes when you're out, you and Tina left, y'all did 328 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,240 something on Monday, went to a doctor's appointment. It gave me an hour or two here 329 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,640 and I walked through the house and I preached to myself. I was preaching through the house and 330 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:53,040 praising God. Oh, totally crashed out on the couch wondering what I was up to, but he didn't care. 331 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,320 So you were preaching out loud. 332 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,000 Out loud. I walked through the house and preached and prayed through the house because 333 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:04,000 sometimes you need to say things out loud. You got to be declarative and use proclamation 334 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:09,040 to get your words into the atmosphere. And our words, when they're anointed with the word of God, 335 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,960 actually seed the atmosphere and change the atmosphere. 336 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:13,920 Yes, absolutely. 337 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:19,680 And I've believed that for many years and we've seen the power of that. But this idea, 338 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,880 there's some of you listening and you feel bent and you feel like you're on the verge of snapping. 339 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:31,280 And I would just give you this, maybe this encouragement to out loud say, 340 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:37,040 because this is easy to remember, I may be bent, but I am not broken. And you can tell that to God, 341 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:42,160 you can tell that to the devil and tell it to yourself. Tell it to your situation. I may be 342 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:48,240 bent, but I will not break. I am not done. This is not over. In Genesis chapter 50, 343 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:55,280 when Joseph was talking to his brothers after he got exalted to, it's a long story, but 344 00:33:55,280 --> 00:34:01,840 Joseph says this to his brothers. He says, you intended to harm me. And then the next two words, 345 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:09,680 but God. You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good to accomplish what is now being done, 346 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,360 the saving of many lives. That's a but God life right there. 347 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:19,120 Which he ended up turning around saving his own brothers who sold him into slavery. 348 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,680 Yes. And that's a but God mentality. That's living up in a down world. The idea of, 349 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:31,120 of you know what? This was, this came at me that the enemy meant it for harm, but God, but God, 350 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:36,640 you turned it into good. Romans 8 28, that's a, it's a but God kind of verse, even though it doesn't 351 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:42,400 say but God. And it just says that, you know, he causes all things to work together for the good of 352 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:48,480 those who love him and are the called according to his purpose. He, he doesn't cause all things to 353 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:55,040 happen. He causes things to work together for our good. He takes and touches and massages things 354 00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:01,520 to where it now works for our good. It's just amazing. That's a but God mentality. And so 355 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:09,360 we want to encourage you in that to say it out loud. I may be bent, but I will not be broken 356 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,160 because I'm a but God, but God is on working on my behalf. That's good. That's good. Yeah. 357 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:19,200 Yeah. So we hope you're encouraged by this. And I just want to say some shout outs. I'm not going 358 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:24,560 to read these out loud today. I'm just going to say thank you to those of you that have boosted 359 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:34,240 us and have taken advantage of podcasting 2.0 on, on apps like Cast-O-Matic and Fountain. We really 360 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:38,160 love Fountain. We just kind of know some of those guys there and appreciate what they're doing. 361 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,160 And we appreciate you, the notes you've sent us, the letters you've written in, 362 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:48,560 just so appreciate Sir Brian with an I gave us a bump and just a nice note and so appreciate it. 363 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:57,600 Sir Bies Grace also sent some emails. He always sends encouraging emails. He loves Charles Stanley, 364 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:03,040 Pastor Charles Stanley. So he sends a little clips of these great messages from him. And so we so 365 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:09,440 appreciate that. And of course, my buddy, Adam, the Podfather Curry, you know, he did, he did give a 366 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:14,400 striper boost. So I'm just going to have to do that. He says you have to do that. I have to do that. 367 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:19,120 So he gave me that file. So I've got to play it for him, but I do want to say thank you. 368 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:25,120 Thank you, my friend. I do wait, I did want to brag on him. So, so, yes, we do need to, again, 369 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,440 I want to say thank you to everyone. Thank you for supporting us. Do go to our website, 370 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:36,320 livingupinadownworld.com and just leave a note, leave a comment, let us know you're there. 371 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,640 We are like those podcasters we were talking about. We sometimes wonder if this is landing 372 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:46,080 anywhere, but we're not going to give up because we believe God's called us to get the good news 373 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,760 of Jesus Christ. If it's only for one, it's worth it. That's right. That's exactly right. But we've 374 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,000 got to talk about Adam and what he did before we leave. We've got to brag on Adam, my friend. So 375 00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:00,960 we go to the Spark Media podcasters award show and the night they had a gala where everybody dressed 376 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:06,480 up and except for Tina and I, well, y'all didn't know it was a formal. Well, I did. There was a 377 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:12,800 little communication breakdown. I said there was and Tina talked with Adam and he said, no, 378 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:20,560 they never do that in podcast world. And we get there and the women are all in long gowns and 379 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:25,440 they're, I mean, they're, some of them are to the nines. I've never seen anything like it. 380 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:30,960 Now, some of the dudes were wearing like jeans in a jacket. Well, that would be you and Adam. 381 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,880 I didn't see anybody else. Everybody else. No, no, I did. Oh, you didn't? Okay. Even Rob Kilpatrick 382 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,560 from Focus on the Family. I got to say one other guy I met from Focus on the Family. Oh yeah, it was 383 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:46,320 John. Yeah, John Fuller. He's actually on the Focus on the Family broadcast. He's one of the 384 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:51,280 presenters on that and he's got that golden voice. He's a radio personality. He came up and was 385 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:56,160 talking to us and we had a wonderful conversation. He knew everything about our lives because he too 386 00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:02,080 has listened to our podcast. And he was, but when I heard his voice, I'm like, that voice is 387 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:08,080 butter. Adam's got that kind of voice too. They've got that broadcast voice and it's just 388 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:13,200 trained through the years of broadcast. And anyway, it was a pleasure to meet Rob Kilpatrick and 389 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:21,120 John Fuller, just great guys doing a great work. So, and I sat with Rob at the banquet. 390 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:27,200 Or the gala. So that night they did all these presentations and they brought Adam up. Of course, 391 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,680 they had a picture of him from MTV. That was hilarious. Headbangers Ball back in the day. 392 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,800 The classic hair picture. When people ask me about Adam or I let them know, you know, 393 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,720 who they are. That's famous. They want to see that. That's the picture. Yeah, that's the picture. 394 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:44,560 It's the hair. I'll never forget it. He had the hair. He had better hair than I did. He had better 395 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:50,480 hair than most women had. So yeah, he had it all teased out and probably three gallons of Aquanet 396 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:56,800 on it. Yeah, which he should have gotten some stock from. So he got up and spoke and he did a 397 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:02,160 masterful job of speaking about podcasting. Drove into the history of it and how it was 398 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:09,120 developed and how he and another guy, Dave, worked on that together. And those first rudimentary 399 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:14,080 meetings told about meeting Steve Jobs and Steve really coming behind him and supporting him and 400 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:19,520 saying, we want to support this. We see a future in this. Certainly was. He made that call, right? 401 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,600 But he also, he talked about the history, but he also talked about the present. And then he talked 402 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:29,040 about the future of podcasting. The future was really good. Delivery was spot on. And he used 403 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:34,240 the term RSS. Everybody knows if you're in podcasting, you know what RSS feeds are. And they've been 404 00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:40,000 around a long time and he called it the rock solid signal. Yeah, rock solid signal. The rock 405 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,960 solid signal that will never go away. It will always be constant. And of course he linked that 406 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:50,000 to God, you know, the rock solid signal we get from Christ. And I love it when he said, I'm a new Christian. 407 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:57,840 It's only been within the last year and everybody just clapped. And he said, but I see that God's 408 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:06,080 been in my life all along because he's the one who brought the idea of podcasting to me. But I didn't 409 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:13,200 know it at the time. He didn't know it till now. Ah, that was so powerful. Yeah, it was so good. 410 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,760 It was interesting. I had another somebody, I won't use their name, but they made the comment 411 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,320 to me. They said, you know, I'm so glad that you've come alongside Adam and Tina and you're 412 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:27,120 discipling them and walking with them. And I said, whoa, whoa, whoa. Discipling and they said, 413 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,600 discipling. Discipling and walking. I said, whoa, whoa, whoa. I said, let me say this. I said, 414 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:38,880 this is a friendship and he's not a project. Because people do think, especially pastors, 415 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:45,440 they have projects. I don't have projects. I have friends and none of my friends and no one will 416 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:51,440 ever be a project to me. That's not what we're about. And so I cut the guy off a little bit just 417 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:56,160 to say, no, no, no, that's not how this is. This is a friendship. I'm learning things from him 418 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,880 and he's learning. That's what a friendship is about. Iron sharpens iron. It's interesting 419 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,840 to learn from someone that's a new Christian because we've been Christians for so long. You 420 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:11,680 kind of forget. Our perspective is different. Totally. Yes. What you're framing and what 421 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:17,200 informs you is different. Yes. So it's been really refreshing to walk with Adam and Tina 422 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:23,440 as they are on this really exponential growth trajectory. Unbelievable. Never seen anything 423 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:29,920 like it in all of my years of ministry. I've never seen a couple grow as quickly as they have. 424 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,960 God is doing things not only with them, but others that we are seeing coming into the faith. 425 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:40,640 They're having accelerated growth. And that's a signal to me that revival and spiritual awakening 426 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:47,280 is at hand. It's here. And so God's doing things quickly. And so I want to encourage you, if you've 427 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:52,560 not really stepped over the line to go all in with Jesus and you've thought about it, but you don't 428 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:59,040 really know where to start, I want to encourage you, find a church where you live. Find a Bible 429 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:08,320 teaching church that teaches Jesus and plug in and find community. But before you even do any of 430 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:15,120 that, just right now you can just say, Lord Jesus, I've messed it up. It's not working out for me. 431 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:20,560 And I'm a sinner and I need you. I need your help. Would you save me? Would you save me from the 432 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:26,640 inside out? Would you change me from the inside out? And just say this, say, I give you my past. 433 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:33,120 I give you my present. And I give you my future. And Lord Jesus, come in and save me. And here's 434 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:40,000 the beauty. He loves that when you invite him in, he comes in and he will save you. And now you're 435 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:45,520 what the Bible calls born again. And that means that you'll be in eternity in heaven with him and 436 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:51,120 with us together as family. And he wants you, he wants you to come to know him. And he already 437 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:57,200 knows you, but he wants you to know him. And so we just offer that out as an invitation to give 438 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,400 your life to Christ, give your life to Jesus. If you have questions about that, go to our website, 439 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:08,640 livingupinanddownworld.com and write me a note. And I'd be glad to encourage you to send you links 440 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:13,200 to resources, whatever we can do to help you in your walk with Jesus. That's what it's about. 441 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:18,880 Amen. Amen. Say amen, sister. Amen. Put your hands in the air. Oh my gosh. 442 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:24,480 I love you so much. Okay. So we need to let our listeners know. I was about to wax. 443 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,320 We're going to, we're going to, oh, thank you. I love you too, baby. The moment's gone. 444 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,760 Just want to let our listeners know that we're going to move to Tuesday nights rather than Monday 445 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:38,080 nights. Too many things keep coming up on Monday night. We have a day job. 446 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:44,640 So Tuesday night we'll be releasing our podcast from now on. And in terms of a rhythm that's 447 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:49,040 going to work a lot better for us at this point. So sorry for the one night off thing. 448 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:55,680 We had so much going on. You had a meeting. It was insane. And too, we really want to protect our 449 00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:01,360 Sabbath day and our Sabbath for us, we take that on Monday. We want to guard that. Hey, we love you 450 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:06,240 guys. We're so glad that you're with us and we want you to live up in a down world. Reach out, 451 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:10,640 let us know and send us to a friend. Maybe this will encourage somebody you know. And if so, 452 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,160 man, get the word out. Have a great week, y'all. 453 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:41,680 you 454 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:11,200 you 455 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:40,800 you 456 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:10,880 you 457 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:40,960 you 458 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:10,960 you